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Post by vertigomez on Mar 13, 2017 3:44:42 GMT
Guys this the best thread ever, it's angst-free, talking about queer KISAs, chats about characters that I love so much with my heart and even furry talks....   Truly the mods gods have blessed us! |
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Post by Davrin's boobs on Mar 13, 2017 3:50:25 GMT
Guys this the best thread ever, it's angst-free, talking about queer KISAs, chats about characters that I love so much with my heart and even furry talks.... Truly the mods gods have blessed us! DAMN! Now I want a vampire KISA... Why there're no vampires in Thedas? Angel can be my Knight in Sour Armor anytime! why I didn't think about this earlier?  |
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Post by Crim on Mar 13, 2017 4:17:43 GMT
Guys this the best thread ever, it's angst-free, talking about queer KISAs, chats about characters that I love so much with my heart and even furry talks.... D'aww.   This is why the thread needed to be remade. The gay KISA is still very much sought after and I'm happy for the newer BSN folk to finally experience and contribute to this most epic of epic gay quests. |
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Post by zaefkol on Mar 13, 2017 4:32:22 GMT
So for a more detail post about some archetypes and characters I love and want to see in games.  More recently Alex Danvers and Kara Danvers, stole my heart also Maggie Sawyer. There are so many KISA on that show, I am always overwhelmed. I guess Kara is you typical knight in shining armor, Alex has a more darker side and Maggie is the professional, stoic type. I really really have to get around to checking out this show. It's a good enjoyable show.
Although, I did find the first few episodes to be a bit cringy. I felt it was a bit too preachy about emphasizing that the show centered around powerful women, and there were too many characters that made comments that, at least to me, came across as, "So let me get this straight. She's a woman AND she has power. What is this new thing? Explain to me how it works and/or how I make it apply to me."
After the first handful of episodes, it definitely got better. It stopped talking about powerful woman in cheesy, cringe-inducing ways and actually started showing women being powerful, which I feel is much more important (and is also better writing). It still is a bit cheesy; it's the fun kind of cheesy though.
It's worth a watch, and a lot of the characters definitely embody KISA elements.
Also, Alex best character.
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Post by areskeith on Mar 13, 2017 5:23:44 GMT
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Post by Shinobu on Mar 13, 2017 5:24:18 GMT
Hey, guys! Glad to see this thread, and hoping for KISAs for everyone in Andromeda.  I think Vetra could be a KISA. One of her personality traits is that she's "very protective of those she considers friends and family" and she comes ready made with power armor. While her background is seedy, it may be because of circumstances rather than choice and she may turn out to be happy to once again be on the up-and-up when we recruit her. As a Turian with an assault rifle she's going to be pretty solid in combat and if she's a good "die for the cause" Turian she would fit the honorable mold. Also, she doesn't sound promiscuous as one press person who played said she got all dorky when Scott flirted with her, IIRC. I heard that Sheryl Chee fought successfully for Vetra to be bi (  ), so fingers crossed! |
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Post by Crim on Mar 13, 2017 5:44:24 GMT
Hey, guys! Glad to see this thread, and hoping for KISAs for everyone in Andromeda. I think Vetra could be a KISA. One of her personality traits is that she's "very protective of those she considers friends and family" and she comes ready made with power armor. While her background is seedy, it may be because of circumstances rather than choice and she may turn out to be happy to once again be on the up-and-up when we recruit her. As a Turian with an assault rifle she's going to be pretty solid in combat and if she's a good "die for the cause" Turian she would fit the honorable mold. Also, she doesn't sound promiscuous as one press person who played said she got all dorky when Scott flirted with her, IIRC. I heard that Sheryl Chee fought successfully for Vetra to be bi ( ), so fingers crossed!
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Post by Panda on Mar 13, 2017 9:00:53 GMT
I haven't been really around KISA thread in BSN prime either since I found character type of it just boring sounding.. but I was today thinking if I had some characters that I like that are KISA's and actually I definitely have. Both Saber / Arthuria Pendragon  and Oscar  are just epitome of KISAs. Literally knights in shining armor- or uniform. Lawful good, fighting for greater good while trying to follow rules and be honorable best they can. So I guess I'd be really onboard with more female KISA's. For some reason I don't really have any interest of male version of KISAs, but of course don't mind of them being in games either. In terms of female KISA I liked in BW universe, I think Evangeline is pretty much epitome of KISA as well. |
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We now have colour.  Dude reflects my current mood... Now, as much as I really want a gay knight in shining armour archetype to appear as a front-and-center companion in a Bioware game (more so for Dragon Age than Mass Effect- I'm a Dragon Age guy, here)... I suppose it really depends on the story. Like, I couldn't really care that much about Cullen, for instance. People say that he was meant to be a bisexual character, but almost doesn't count, and even if he was, his story wasn't really for me. For me, this kind of character HAS to have some conflict. In order to get me to feel for him, he must WANT something but stands to lose something getting it. If you want this story to be, say, really romantic, he might want you, but because you're both on opposing forces, he's conflicted about this, despite being initially led to believe that you're the bad guy. I hope that story makes sense? I could see him (her, or them) adhering to a belief system that was built for good, but if that fails him, does he follow regardless? Or does he truly follow his heart (while upsetting a status quo?). The latter, I hope. Anyway, I'm not too fussed. If in the next game, they churn out a Sweet-Tempered Pretty-Boy Elf Mage TM who's the gay companion, I'd be okay with it (again, depending on how they're written). I can easily play out my PC as the Knight In Shining Armour instead. I suppose my advantage is that if Andromeda fails to meet my hopes and expectations, as someone who is creative, I can simply walk away into my own stories as my solace. I wouldn't know how anyone else would deal otherwise, so if things don't turn out in our favour, I really wish I could do something for you guys. |
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Post by witchcocktor on Mar 13, 2017 11:43:52 GMT
We now have colour. Dude reflects my current mood... Now, as much as I really want a gay knight in shining armour archetype to appear as a front-and-center companion in a Bioware game (more so for Dragon Age than Mass Effect- I'm a Dragon Age guy, here)... I suppose it really depends on the story. Like, I couldn't really care that much about Cullen, for instance. People say that he was meant to be a bisexual character, but almost doesn't count, and even if he was, his story wasn't really for me. For me, this kind of character HAS to have some conflict. In order to get me to feel for him, he must WANT something but stands to lose something getting it. If you want this story to be, say, really romantic, he might want you, but because you're both on opposing forces, he's a conflicted about this, despite being initially led to believe that you're the bad guy. I hope that story makes sense? I could see him (her, or them) adhering to a belief system that was built for good, but if that fails him, does he follow regardless? Or does he truly follow his heart (while upsetting a status quo?). The latter, I hope. Anyway, I'm not too fussed. If in the next game, they churn out a Sweet-Tempered Pretty-Boy Elf Mage TM who's the gay companion, I'd be okay with it (again, depending on how they're written). I can easily play out my PC as the Knight In Shining Armour instead. I suppose my advantage is that if Andromeda fails to meet my hopes and expectations, as someone who is creative, I can simply walk away into my own stories as my solace. I wouldn't know how anyone else would deal otherwise, so if things don't turn out in our favour, I really wish I could do something for you guys. I love him. I want him. :hearteyes: Yeah, Cullen really isn't really my type, but he beats Dorian and Iron Bull 100/0. Blackwall would have been my choice of gay LI if I had my way. He has enough conflict and drama, but truly he wants redemption even if he knows he might not get it, but he still pushes onwards if you let him and inspire him. Too bad he was straight and wasn't well received by his target audience. The storyline you written sounds perfect, it has enough conflict to create a very complex romance, and it can easily be part of the main plot as well. Good romance in these kinds of games does not exist without a good conflict. I know some people just want roses and hugs and kisses, but I need a little edge in there to keep me on my feet. I'm... definitely curious as to what kind of gay LI DA4 will churn out. Since we've gotten a pretty flamboyant stereotype out of the way, there's room for a lot of different personalities. My personal go-to would be an escaped gay male saarebas, and his story would have a lot to do with figuring out his place in the world, how to trust the people around him, how to deal with everyday life, freedom and feelings and then by the end of the game, he has gone from a scared, angry puppy to a loving partner who has his own free will and the point is to shed light on how fukt up the qunari really are and how they treat some of their citizen. Maybe it would be too close to Fenris' romance though... and the whole slavery thing would most likely pop up. But I'll do anything to get a very loving, heartfelt qunari romance that's not about teh sex. |
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Post by theladyheart on Mar 13, 2017 12:06:44 GMT
Hi guys, I'm very new here so I don't know if I'm doing this entirely right but...
We got any Utena fans here? If there was ONE character I could think of the KISA, and especially a queer character, I just think of this lady right here:  |
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I love him. I want him. :hearteyes: Yeah, Cullen really isn't really my type, but he beats Dorian and Iron Bull 100/0. Blackwall would have been my choice of gay LI if I had my way. He has enough conflict and drama, but truly he wants redemption even if he knows he might not get it, but he still pushes onwards if you let him and inspire him. Too bad he was straight and wasn't well received by his target audience. The storyline you written sounds perfect, it has enough conflict to create a very complex romance, and it can easily be part of the main plot as well. Good romance in these kinds of games does not exist without a good conflict. I know some people just want roses and hugs and kisses, but I need a little edge in there to keep me on my feet. I'm... definitely curious as to what kind of gay LI DA4 will churn out. Since we've gotten a pretty flamboyant stereotype out of the way, there's room for a lot of different personalities. My personal go-to would be an escaped gay male saarebas, and his story would have a lot to do with figuring out his place in the world, how to trust the people around him, how to deal with everyday life, freedom and feelings and then by the end of the game, he has gone from a scared, angry puppy to a loving partner who has his own free will and the point is to shed light on how fukt up the qunari really are and how they treat some of their citizen. Maybe it would be too close to Fenris' romance though... and the whole slavery thing would most likely pop up. But I'll do anything to get a very loving, heartfelt qunari romance that's not about teh sex. See, I actually enjoyed Dorian and Iron Bull more (Dorian, Iron Bull, & Cole were my main squad members). Don't get me wrong, I wish things were different in some ways, but for me, at least, I enjoyed Dorian's character. Had Dorian been straight, people would have written him off as a charming and narcissistic rogue. I'm not looking to start any debates because I just don't have that fight in me. But all in all, I was satisfied with him as a character. And, I liked that out of all the companions, Dorian's the one most likely to make an appearance in DA4 leading an alliance that might possibly aid the player character (Solas doesn't count because he's an arsehole). Funny how you mentioned Qunari, because that's my first pick for a knight in shining armour. And yeah, I think what you've come up with, it would depend on the saarebas' wants, fears, obsessions, and secrets that he has in order to differentiate him from Fenris. Fenris was about his hang up with mages and slavery in Tevinter and getting revenge. This saarebas could be, say, concerned with being a "fish out of water" kind of character, finally finding happiness in your company (and in the company of everyone), but fearing that it would all be taken away. So he'd be obsessed with his own freedom (rather than thoughts of revenge). And in a way, that characteristic could point to a part in the story where he had to choose between his freedom and you (if you romanced him/earned how many friendship points with him). Anyway, I'm sorta spitballing here. |
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Post by witchcocktor on Mar 13, 2017 12:40:15 GMT
I love him. I want him. :hearteyes: Yeah, Cullen really isn't really my type, but he beats Dorian and Iron Bull 100/0. Blackwall would have been my choice of gay LI if I had my way. He has enough conflict and drama, but truly he wants redemption even if he knows he might not get it, but he still pushes onwards if you let him and inspire him. Too bad he was straight and wasn't well received by his target audience. The storyline you written sounds perfect, it has enough conflict to create a very complex romance, and it can easily be part of the main plot as well. Good romance in these kinds of games does not exist without a good conflict. I know some people just want roses and hugs and kisses, but I need a little edge in there to keep me on my feet. I'm... definitely curious as to what kind of gay LI DA4 will churn out. Since we've gotten a pretty flamboyant stereotype out of the way, there's room for a lot of different personalities. My personal go-to would be an escaped gay male saarebas, and his story would have a lot to do with figuring out his place in the world, how to trust the people around him, how to deal with everyday life, freedom and feelings and then by the end of the game, he has gone from a scared, angry puppy to a loving partner who has his own free will and the point is to shed light on how fukt up the qunari really are and how they treat some of their citizen. Maybe it would be too close to Fenris' romance though... and the whole slavery thing would most likely pop up. But I'll do anything to get a very loving, heartfelt qunari romance that's not about teh sex. See, I actually enjoyed Dorian and Iron Bull more (Dorian, Iron Bull, & Cole were my main squad members). Don't get me wrong, I wish things were different in some ways, but for me, at least, I enjoyed Dorian's character. Had Dorian been straight, people would have written him off as a charming and narcissistic rogue. I'm not looking to start any debates because I just don't have that fight in me. But all in all, I was satisfied with him as a character. And, I liked that out of all the companions, Dorian's the one most likely to make an appearance in DA4 leading an alliance that might possibly aid the player character (Solas doesn't count because he's an arsehole). Funny how you mentioned Qunari, because that's my first pick for a knight in shining armour. And yeah, I think what you've come up with, it would depend on the saarebas' wants, fears, obsessions, and secrets that he has in order to differentiate him from Fenris. Fenris was about his hang up with mages and slavery in Tevinter and getting revenge. This saarebas could be, say, concerned with being a "fish out of water" kind of character, finally finding happiness in your company (and in the company of everyone), but fearing that it would all be taken away. So he'd be obsessed with his own freedom (rather than thoughts of revenge). And in a way, that characteristic could point to a part in the story where he had to choose between his freedom and you (if you romanced him/earned how many friendship points with him). Anyway, I'm sorta spitballing here. Dorian, while he is my bro, my homie, he is a terrible partner and his romance is infuriating. More power to you if you liked it though! There's definitely the problem of sounding too much like Fenris' romance, but in this case a lot of his storyline would be about the gradual change from emotionless slave who has had no free will to someone who is a functioning member of society with his free will and emotions, and also painting the Qun as an actual villainous cult, which Iron Bull's story didn't really have. It would be kinda like a good mixture of both Iron Bull's and Fenris' story. |
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Post by caladrius on Mar 13, 2017 12:41:55 GMT
I didn't like Cullen and honestly didn't even want him as an option that much. I mean, more is better, right? And I'd be happy for people that wanted him. Cullen just never interested me at all as a romance. Aesthetically and down to his personality, I found him pretty boring. This could lean pretty heavily on my bias that in DA games I'm rabidly pro-mage and I am one of what seems to be only a few people that absolutely loved the Anders romance. I guess I actually seem to like the anti-KISA relationships. Anders, I would have been so down with a Solas m/m romance. I should probably start picking up guys at ANTIFA riots in real life with this kind of taste in men.
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Post by theladyheart on Mar 13, 2017 12:51:54 GMT
I can see where there are KISA elements in a lot of the romances of Bioware tbh. For example, reading this thread and seeing what other people view as KISA actually made me see some of Isabela's romance as somewhat fitting. Not completely KISA, but the part where you're about to beat the Arishok's ass (aka run around in circles a lot and hope he gets stuck on a pole or something) because tfw no Tome of Koslun, then Isabela comes back and saves the day made my gay little heart flutter an awful lot. Of course, you can then argue that Hawke is more of a KISA because they fight a duel for Isabela's life but... Sorry, heart still fluttering at Isabela. |
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Post by caladrius on Mar 13, 2017 12:56:16 GMT
I think the takeaway I'm getting from this thread is that every character is a little KISA to someone. lol
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2017 12:56:31 GMT
We now have colour. <snip> Dude reflects my current mood... Now, as much as I really want a gay knight in shining armour archetype to appear as a front-and-center companion in a Bioware game (more so for Dragon Age than Mass Effect- I'm a Dragon Age guy, here)... I suppose it really depends on the story. Like, I couldn't really care that much about Cullen, for instance. People say that he was meant to be a bisexual character, but almost doesn't count, and even if he was, his story wasn't really for me. For me, this kind of character HAS to have some conflict. In order to get me to feel for him, he must WANT something but stands to lose something getting it. If you want this story to be, say, really romantic, he might want you, but because you're both on opposing forces, he's conflicted about this, despite being initially led to believe that you're the bad guy. I hope that story makes sense? I could see him (her, or them) adhering to a belief system that was built for good, but if that fails him, does he follow regardless? Or does he truly follow his heart (while upsetting a status quo?). The latter, I hope. Anyway, I'm not too fussed. If in the next game, they churn out a Sweet-Tempered Pretty-Boy Elf MageTM who's the gay companion, I'd be okay with it (again, depending on how they're written). I can easily play out my PC as the Knight In Shining Armour instead. I suppose my advantage is that if Andromeda fails to meet my hopes and expectations, as someone who is creative, I can simply walk away into my own stories as my solace. I wouldn't know how anyone else would deal otherwise, so if things don't turn out in our favour, I really wish I could do something for you guys. Great sketch! I like him! I'd be a little annoyed if we got an elf in DA4. It wouldn't be the end of the world, especially since we just came off a game without an m/m elf, but we've already had two elves. And since it's pretty much a guarantee that the other option will be a human (outside of DA:O where gay guys only had one option, there's always been at least one human per gender/sexuality), that would mean we'd end up with 3 humans, 3 elves, and 1 qunari, which is a bit skewed for my liking. I'm really really hoping that we can finally get a dwarf romance in DA4 and I desperately want him to be a KISA Rock-Knocker. It would be perfect. I know it's a long shot, but that's what I'm really hoping for. If not that, then I'd take a Nevarran Dragon Hunter (distant Pentaghast relative, perhaps?). That would also be sweet. For a lady KISA, I'd love to see either a female version of the Rock-Knocker (if we can't get a male) or a Qunari. Not sure what the character would be since Qunari are a little limited in how they can be presented without being another Tal-Vashoth. But a lady Qunari KISA would be perfect as well. |
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Post by xilizhra on Mar 13, 2017 13:06:18 GMT
Dorian, while he is my bro, my homie, he is a terrible partner and his romance is infuriating. More power to you if you liked it though! Why is this? |
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Post by caladrius on Mar 13, 2017 13:07:13 GMT
I would take a Nevarran Dragon Hunter, probably. My boyfriend is Russian, so I'm into a good Eastern European-y accent. He better have one. lol
I like elves, though. I would take a new elf dude every game, idc. I'd kind of like a feisty Dalish hunter, tbh. I think that could make a pretty good KISA. The Dalish tend towards having a sort of code of ethics and honor that I kind of associate with the KISA archetype, but it's one that doesn't bother me. Plus, we've never had a Dalish m/m.
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Post by witchcocktor on Mar 13, 2017 13:13:34 GMT
Dorian, while he is my bro, my homie, he is a terrible partner and his romance is infuriating. More power to you if you liked it though! Why is this? He is emotionally manipulative, selfish, deflects too much with snark, has commitment issues, lacks empathy, is hypocritical and has a problem with showing his feelings. |
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We now have colour. <snip> Dude reflects my current mood... Now, as much as I really want a gay knight in shining armour archetype to appear as a front-and-center companion in a Bioware game (more so for Dragon Age than Mass Effect- I'm a Dragon Age guy, here)... I suppose it really depends on the story. Like, I couldn't really care that much about Cullen, for instance. People say that he was meant to be a bisexual character, but almost doesn't count, and even if he was, his story wasn't really for me. For me, this kind of character HAS to have some conflict. In order to get me to feel for him, he must WANT something but stands to lose something getting it. If you want this story to be, say, really romantic, he might want you, but because you're both on opposing forces, he's conflicted about this, despite being initially led to believe that you're the bad guy. I hope that story makes sense? I could see him (her, or them) adhering to a belief system that was built for good, but if that fails him, does he follow regardless? Or does he truly follow his heart (while upsetting a status quo?). The latter, I hope. Anyway, I'm not too fussed. If in the next game, they churn out a Sweet-Tempered Pretty-Boy Elf MageTM who's the gay companion, I'd be okay with it (again, depending on how they're written). I can easily play out my PC as the Knight In Shining Armour instead. I suppose my advantage is that if Andromeda fails to meet my hopes and expectations, as someone who is creative, I can simply walk away into my own stories as my solace. I wouldn't know how anyone else would deal otherwise, so if things don't turn out in our favour, I really wish I could do something for you guys. Great sketch! I like him! I'd be a little annoyed if we got an elf in DA4. It wouldn't be the end of the world, especially since we just came off a game without an m/m elf, but we've already had two elves. And since it's pretty much a guarantee that the other option will be a human (outside of DA:O where gay guys only had one option, there's always been at least one human per gender/sexuality), that would mean we'd end up with 3 humans, 3 elves, and 1 qunari, which is a bit skewed for my liking. I'm really really hoping that we can finally get a dwarf romance in DA4 and I desperately want him to be a KISA Rock-Knocker. It would be perfect. I know it's a long shot, but that's what I'm really hoping for. If not that, then I'd take a Nevarran Dragon Hunter (distant Pentaghast relative, perhaps?). That would also be sweet. For a lady KISA, I'd love to see either a female version of the Rock-Knocker (if we can't get a male) or a Qunari. Not sure what the character would be since Qunari are a little limited in how they can be presented without being another Tal-Vashoth. But a lady Qunari KISA would be perfect as well. Ah yes! Hello, we meet again. I remember you from the old forum. Yeah, the elf thing is easier for me to accept because I play elves, and they're the easiest for me to connect with. That being said, hopefully there will be a dwarf romance- I'm open for that, and anything, really. It all boils down to the character's story. For a woman, I'm gunning for an Avaar. Although a Qunari or Dwarf would be pretty nifty as well. I know my player character's gonna be an elf-mage... unless M/M Only Pretty Boy Elf Mage happens, then I'm playing a warrior Qunari. Sorry, I wanted to say so! |
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Post by Davrin's boobs on Mar 13, 2017 13:54:04 GMT
This might be an unpopular opinion, but I'm the only one who think that our gay KISA should be strictly human? Maybe I'm too traditional or maybe I'm being a racist about Thedas's races? :D8: I know that I brought up that idea of a KISA werewolf, but this KISA should be human by day for that to work for me... I'm still sad that Delrin Barris wasn't an option in DAI, it would have been a perfect KISA for me. I'm not against of the qunari/dwarf KISA idea, but give me a Prince Phillip-like KISA first, Bioware >__<
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2017 14:01:00 GMT
This might be an unpopular opinion, but I'm the only one who think that our gay KISA should be strictly human? Maybe I'm too traditional or maybe I'm being a racist about Thedas's races? :D8: I know that I brought up that idea of a KISA werewolf, but this KISA should be human by day for that to work for me... I'm still sad that Delrin Barris wasn't an option in DAI, it would have been a perfect KISA for me. I'm not against of the qunari/dwarf KISA idea, but give me a Prince Phillip-like KISA first, Bioware >__< Hmm, I'm not taken in with the whole werewolf shifter thing (even though it is very possible to have that in the Dragon Age universe), but I'm not gonna complain if we do have it. But I have one stipulation: the human knight has to be really a tall and broad-shouldered colossus of a man. ...Was that too specific? |
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Post by witchcocktor on Mar 13, 2017 14:07:56 GMT
I don't think there's going to be a m/m dwarf in DA4 if Scout Harding is already a bi dwarf. Dwarfs are already a forbidden fruit kind of deal, and if BW puts any in DA4, they are going to test them out with a larger audience. Of course the m/m dwarf could be bi, but if Scout Harding is bi as well, I don't know how much I can put faith in a m/m dwarf.
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Post by caladrius on Mar 13, 2017 14:08:18 GMT
This might be an unpopular opinion, but I'm the only one who think that our gay KISA should be strictly human? Maybe I'm too traditional or maybe I'm being a racist about Thedas's races? :D8: I know that I brought up that idea of a KISA werewolf, but this KISA should be human by day for that to work for me... I'm still sad that Delrin Barris wasn't an option in DAI, it would have been a perfect KISA for me. I'm not against of the qunari/dwarf KISA idea, but give me a Prince Phillip-like KISA first, Bioware >__< Well, I feel like the discussion is branching into two directions. One is the actual, pretty narrow stereotype that inspired the no-homo KISA complaints to begin with, especially in the DA games. That's pretty much the human Alistair, Cullen, Cassandra types. And I think it is kind of fair for people to say they're still not really getting that specific trope filled by some of the stuff people are suggesting in here. A lot of people are stating what a KISA is to them, which is cool to see, but I think a lot of it does actually verge from what the DA team probably sees as the hetero KISA archetypes they're used to making. I think most people that pined for Cullen and Cassandra are probably not going to feel like that void was filled by a Qunari Sarbaas or a Dalish Hunter, even if those are also cool concepts. I also think the KISA archetypes in DA being hetero could have something to do with subconscious stereotypes of "religious" type characters. The DA KISA characters are all closely aligned with the chantry and they have Thedas edition "Traditional Values". If you bring a totally different world culture into it, I think it doesn't address that there's some stigma there. |
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