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Post by Catilina on Mar 13, 2017 14:47:01 GMT
A real gay/bi KISA would be nice in DA4 (disappointed Tevinter Templar, for example), but if we got an elf or unstable questionable character with many flaws, of course, my protagonist will be his hero, as was my Hawke Anders'/Fenris' hero, or my Cousland was Zevran's. These wasn't perfect but was good to protect them. This fit my playstyle, just I'm sick of the stereotypes. I need some refreshing! Alistair and Cullen are really my type. So: they would be perfect for me. (My Hawke)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2017 15:04:29 GMT
I do like characters with an impeccable moral compass, unwavering in his or her convictions but never crossing the line when it becomes cruel/unfair and does not look to the PC to shelter him/her or solve his or her problems. KISA, not KISA… I dunno. KISA always had a terrible connection with Anomen for me, a character that represented the every worst thing about a video-game romance for me, so… yeah, not a fan of the term itself. Someone I can admire, and point to, and say - there is a better man/woman than I am.
So, for me the bisexual or same-sex characters in Bio games that make the cut are:
Lord Cytherat, Dorian and Fenris.
And I completely disagree that Alistair is one. Played as an Elven PC, and saw the guy too weak-willed and petty for that role.
Over time, my favorite romances in Bio games were in this order: Thane, Bao-Dur/Anders and Dorian.
What’s going to happen in ME:A, I do not know. I would like to romance Jaal, and I hope his character is interesting and the love story is great.
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Post by Catilina on Mar 13, 2017 15:37:09 GMT
What about Carver? (not for Hawke, ofc, just as archetype) He has a strong morality, always protective at the beginning he's naive about Templars, and defiant (jerk?) with his sibling, but still, he's loyal, and finally, he (almost?) perfect fit this definition. AND: we can't say, he's a boring good boy.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2017 15:45:52 GMT
I've never really saw Carver being protective of anyone but himself tbh. Not even with Merrill when they sort of kind of flirt. The strongest impression I got from him was: I want my own spot in the sun!
Carver moving to Andromeda as an NPC is unlikely though.
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Post by Catilina on Mar 13, 2017 16:05:48 GMT
I've never really saw Carver being protective of anyone but himself tbh. Not even with Merrill when they sort of kind of flirt. The strongest impression I got from him was: I want my own spot in the sun! Carver moving to Andromeda as an NPC is unlikely though. He is protective, from beginning to the end, and good to see his growth. This seems better if he's Warden, but as Templar also shows change. At the beginning, he's an 18-jears-old young, yes, he searches for his way and wants to go leave his brother/sister's shadow (he believed, that Malcolm was more proud to his Mage child, but this wasn't true – Malcolm's will can show him the truth). When he joined to the Templars, probably was annoying and seems he's disloyal, but this isn't really true. He told Hawke, that he always will know, that his family the most important.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2017 16:09:41 GMT
I've never really saw Carver being protective of anyone but himself tbh. Not even with Merrill when they sort of kind of flirt. The strongest impression I got from him was: I want my own spot in the sun! Carver moving to Andromeda as an NPC is unlikely though. He is protective, from beginning to the end, and good to see his growth. This seems better if he's Warden, but as Templar also shows change. At the beginning, he's an 18-jears-old young, yes, he searches for his way and wants to go leave his brother/sister's shadow (he believed, that Malcolm was more proud to his Mage child, but this wasn't true – Malcolm's will can show him the truth). When he joined to the Templars, probably was annoying and seems he's disloyal, but this isn't really true. He told Hawke, that he always will know, that his family the most important. Sorry, I have never seen that side of him. I only played Act I with him, perhaps he comes across as a strong man in Act iii. Anyways, again, we'll see how Scott is in Andromeda as far as brothers with knightly temperaments go....
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Post by Catilina on Mar 13, 2017 16:14:31 GMT
He is protective, from beginning to the end, and good to see his growth. This seems better if he's Warden, but as Templar also shows change. At the beginning, he's an 18-jears-old young, yes, he searches for his way and wants to go leave his brother/sister's shadow (he believed, that Malcolm was more proud to his Mage child, but this wasn't true – Malcolm's will can show him the truth). When he joined to the Templars, probably was annoying and seems he's disloyal, but this isn't really true. He told Hawke, that he always will know, that his family the most important. Sorry, I have never seen that side of him. I only played Act I with him, perhaps he comes across as a strong man in Act iii. Anyways, again, we'll see how Scott is in Andromeda as far as brothers with knightly temperaments go.... Some of the experiences were from the Act 1. He have strong morality, approves the "good" choices, protective toward his family (Fenris' first scene on video – I linked). Some from the Legacy. This important to find all part of Malcolm's will. I think he's much more than a angry, bitter defiant boy.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2017 16:24:48 GMT
Sorry, I have never seen that side of him. I only played Act I with him, perhaps he comes across as a strong man in Act iii. Anyways, again, we'll see how Scott is in Andromeda as far as brothers with knightly temperaments go.... Some of the experiences were from the Act 1. He have strong morality, approves the "good" choices, protective toward his family (Fenris' first scene on video – I linked). Some from the Legacy. This important to find all part of Malcolm's will. I think he's much more than a angry, bitter defiant boy. Maybe in legacy. His insecurities though were way more front and centre with pretty much every character in Act I, to the degree that it brought out the maternal in me, wanting to shield the poor kid from all the needling and embarrassing stuff Bio threw at him. Not to mention he ended up in the damsel in distress shoes in the Deep Roads, and my character ending up relying on gentle Anders to save him, and making a convincing speech of the "My brother, oh my little brother. Well, he is not so little. He is actually quite a gift. Yes, a gift. And an asset. He is... erm, strong and a good warrior." sort. Anyway, again, we shall see how default Scott Ryder turns out when you play as Sara. But I think the OP was more interested in the LIs intended for the PC, and wanted to see a strong, confident, warrior-like man of a very honorable disposition and not of gray morality as a M/M option. I certainly support this notion, even if I may disagree on the classification of the LIs of the past. Should such Paragon be added in Adromeda, I will be interested to see the lovestory.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2017 16:47:47 GMT
I Carver. He's an annoying little shit, but he's my (Hawke's) annoying little shit. I can't imagine him not making it Kirkwall.
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Post by witchcocktor on Mar 13, 2017 17:01:52 GMT
It's a shame Carver was a little brother, would've romanced him otherwise. I liked his temperament.
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Post by caladrius on Mar 13, 2017 18:14:33 GMT
I kind of hate Carver, to be honest. He's too petulant and whiny for me. I can't get into these "rivalry" type characters that spend most of their time being butthurt about not being as good as the protag. Huge turn off for me, probably one of my biggest annoyances. I also usually think of KISA types as both more humble and more confident than that.
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Post by vertigomez on Mar 13, 2017 18:30:34 GMT
I don't think Carver is a KISA as of DA2, but I think if we ever ran into him post-DAI he'd absolutely fit the bill. Especially on the Warden path. He's confident, mellow, protective, and saving the world like a pro.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2017 18:35:36 GMT
I don't think Carver is a KISA as of DA2, but I think if we ever ran into him post-DAI he'd absolutely fit the bill. Especially on the Warden path. He's confident, mellow, protective, and saving the world like a pro. Totally agreed. He was on the path to develop into a really amazing guy in his own right by the end of DA2. The problem is that he's so easy to kill off. I mean, you have to play as a mage AND either leave him behind OR take him AND Anders with you in order for him to survive. I'd imagine that the number of people who actually saw a mature, confident, badass Carver was pretty small. Sadly.
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Post by Rouccoco on Mar 13, 2017 18:39:56 GMT
This could lean pretty heavily on my bias that in DA games I'm rabidly pro-mage and I am one of what seems to be only a few people that absolutely loved the Anders romance. Anders + Garrett is my favourite BW romance to date, so I get you. And I also didn't care for Cullen. I guess warriors often end up being anti-magic in DA. I'd like a warrior KISA from one of those cultures that treat magic as something normal. Like an Avvar or a son of a Rivaini Seer. A mother son companion combo would actually be pretty neat. Having them discuss magic and Rivaini culture would be an interesting way of presenting the lore.
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Post by gaycaravaggio on Mar 13, 2017 18:42:08 GMT
This could lean pretty heavily on my bias that in DA games I'm rabidly pro-mage and I am one of what seems to be only a few people that absolutely loved the Anders romance. Anders + Garrett is my favourite BW romance to date, so I get you. And I also didn't care for Cullen. I guess warriors often end up being anti-magic in DA. I'd like a warrior KISA from one of those cultures that treat magic as something normal. Like an Avvar or a son of a Rivaini Seer. A mother son companion combo would actually be pretty neat. Having them discuss magic and Rivaini culture would be an interesting way of presenting the lore. It would be cool to have two companions where one is the parent of the other. I don't think we've had companions in the same party that are closely related, besides Bethany and Carver in the beginning of DA2.
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Post by caladrius on Mar 13, 2017 18:44:13 GMT
I don't know, I would feel super awkward trying to romance a dude with his mom hanging out. lol
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Post by Mihura on Mar 13, 2017 18:49:32 GMT
Hey, guys! Glad to see this thread, and hoping for KISAs for everyone in Andromeda. I think Vetra could be a KISA. One of her personality traits is that she's "very protective of those she considers friends and family" and she comes ready made with power armor. While her background is seedy, it may be because of circumstances rather than choice and she may turn out to be happy to once again be on the up-and-up when we recruit her. As a Turian with an assault rifle she's going to be pretty solid in combat and if she's a good "die for the cause" Turian she would fit the honorable mold. Also, she doesn't sound promiscuous as one press person who played said she got all dorky when Scott flirted with her, IIRC. I heard that Sheryl Chee fought successfully for Vetra to be bi ( ), so fingers crossed! Oh man, oh noooo! I was really trying to get way from Vetra because I did not wanted to be disappointed but this just sparked a flame again. Dammit. If she is indeed bi, it is going to be a hard choice. Also did anyone already point out Korra as a perfect KISA too? Hot headed, medium build and has the power of a goddess in her hands. Oh oh oh and Kuvira, not really a good gal but... I am a huge fangirl.
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Post by Rouccoco on Mar 13, 2017 18:54:17 GMT
This might be an unpopular opinion, but I'm the only one who think that our gay KISA should be strictly human? Maybe I'm too traditional or maybe I'm being a racist about Thedas's races? :D8: I know that I brought up that idea of a KISA werewolf, but this KISA should be human by day for that to work for me... I'm still sad that Delrin Barris wasn't an option in DAI, it would have been a perfect KISA for me. I'm not against of the qunari/dwarf KISA idea, but give me a Prince Phillip-like KISA first, Bioware >__< I'm not interested in elves at all. Their visual design means I'll never like the looks of any elf character in game. And I would have been ok with romancing a Qunari, if they kept the DA2 look. Salit was awesome The new design is pretty bad, I found Bull to be very unattractive. With dwarves it depends. I really liked Renn for example, but not anyone else before.
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Post by gaycaravaggio on Mar 13, 2017 18:57:09 GMT
Hey, guys! Glad to see this thread, and hoping for KISAs for everyone in Andromeda. I think Vetra could be a KISA. One of her personality traits is that she's "very protective of those she considers friends and family" and she comes ready made with power armor. While her background is seedy, it may be because of circumstances rather than choice and she may turn out to be happy to once again be on the up-and-up when we recruit her. As a Turian with an assault rifle she's going to be pretty solid in combat and if she's a good "die for the cause" Turian she would fit the honorable mold. Also, she doesn't sound promiscuous as one press person who played said she got all dorky when Scott flirted with her, IIRC. I heard that Sheryl Chee fought successfully for Vetra to be bi ( ), so fingers crossed! Oh man, oh noooo! I was really trying to get way from Vetra because I did not wanted to be disappointed but this just sparked a flame again. Dammit. If she is indeed bi, it is going to be a hard choice. Also did anyone already point out Korra as a perfect KISA too? Hot headed, medium build and has the power of a goddess in her hands. Oh oh oh and Kuvira, not really a good gal but... I am a huge fangirl. I would love to have a romance option who's like an older version of Korra or Kuvira.
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Post by witchcocktor on Mar 13, 2017 18:57:27 GMT
This might be an unpopular opinion, but I'm the only one who think that our gay KISA should be strictly human? Maybe I'm too traditional or maybe I'm being a racist about Thedas's races? :D8: I know that I brought up that idea of a KISA werewolf, but this KISA should be human by day for that to work for me... I'm still sad that Delrin Barris wasn't an option in DAI, it would have been a perfect KISA for me. I'm not against of the qunari/dwarf KISA idea, but give me a Prince Phillip-like KISA first, Bioware >__< I'm not interested in elves at all. Their visual design means I'll never like the looks of any elf character in game. And I would have been ok with romancing a Qunari, if they kept the DA2 look. Salit was awesome The new design is pretty bad, I found Bull to be very unattractive. With dwarves it depends. I really liked Renn for example, but not anyone else before. Definitely need to go back to this design. The only acceptable rendition of a qunari.
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Post by Rouccoco on Mar 13, 2017 18:58:46 GMT
I don't know, I would feel super awkward trying to romance a dude with his mom hanging out. lol The mom character I have in mind probably wouldn't bother you. Less hovering, and more "I raised him well, he knows, what he's doing." A very strong, proud woman. Plus she could tease them a little, and that could be fun.
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Post by caladrius on Mar 13, 2017 18:59:59 GMT
I'll be honest, dwarves are basically the opposite of what I find attractive. I hope they'll put in some bi dwarf full romances, because I know a lot of people want them. I want a bi male dwarf just because the Varric thread from the old BSN was full of really cool people and I want them to get an alternative. I would go with another option, though. Just not my thing.
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Post by vertigomez on Mar 13, 2017 19:01:06 GMT
I lust after every dwarf and qunari I see. I guess I have low standards.
Just don't be a human in a universe full of aliens and you're all set. :gentleman:
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Rouccoco DA2 Qunaris are rule34 material don't get me wrong I find IB really attractive but maybe it's my inner-kinky-self talking :ulikeit: Mihura I need to watch that show
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