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Post by NRieh on Mar 22, 2017 9:05:44 GMT
Yes. You shoud be able to activate the key in your Origin. I assume all the disks (as few as they are this time for PC) are the 'global' ones, but check the cover for the supported languages, just in case. Yes. It's pretty much like using VPN, but...your real location actually changes (wow!). Just make sure that you have 'English' mentioned as one of the language options. Once you put it into your library - it remains there forever, with all its languages. PS: I've updated the OP, it has the most recent EN files & mentions anything I thought worth mentioning in our case. Wish I could do more, but I barely have time now.
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Post by Phoenix2M on Mar 22, 2017 11:22:18 GMT
Thanks NRieh! It's good to know I have an alternative in case everything else fails. I wish it worked like with inquisition but nooooo.... anyway I'm grateful for the info. Also angry we have to go through all this pain :/
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Post by ksanterx on Mar 22, 2017 16:33:38 GMT
The best result I managed to achieve was to remove all the text completely. Many other manipulations either crash the game on start or change nothing at all. Registry manipulations have no effect on the language too.
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Post by RussianGuyovich1313 on Mar 22, 2017 17:29:03 GMT
Heya, any luck with it? If it matters, I was able to change the audio and text of Titanfall 2, the other Origin game by following this guide -
Could a similiar thing be done for Andromeda?
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Post by Karrus on Mar 23, 2017 0:16:13 GMT
I have the same question as normandy , I believe? if we bought the game in english, not via origin, and the base game worked fine, hurray! would it be safe to just buy future dlcs/deluxe upgrade/etc etc normally via origin at that point? would the dlcs just detect what our base game's language is and "update" themselves to match the base game? or would that screw the whole game up bc every item is actually region-locked? I had the same issue with DA:I, bought english-only version on kinguin and then I had no idea if I could buy dlcs normally. gave me such headaches I just gave up on the game eventually...
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Post by NRieh on Mar 23, 2017 5:26:39 GMT
'Tell me you have something'(c) Commander Shepard @ Mordin
Ok, a possible solution. Suggested by this man. This one had been originally used to bring Russian subs into English, but it is REPORTED TO BE WORKING PLEASE TRY it vice versa AND CONFIRM here! - Reg-editing.
1. Download the files from my link in the OP, I've added the new file - original English .exe 2. run regedit windows utility 3. Locate HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\WOW6432Node\BioWare\Mass Effect Andromeda 4. Change Locale variable from ru_RU (or PL) to en_US 5. Do the same with - HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\WOW6432Node\Origin Games\1019025- HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\WOW6432Node\Origin Games\1019025_oa6. Run Origin & MEA 7. Check your in-game language settings It would be a good idea to turn off the autoupdate first and (probably) to log into offline mode. Author says that online mode is also working. My registry (win 8) has another string for the Andromeda, which is 'HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\WOW6432Node\BioWare\Mass Effect Andromeda', author does not mention it at all, but it's probably worth editing too. Considering how much had they changed, I would not put my life on the answer. Your game is as good as any regular Origin purchase. Once you activate it - you own it, and you get full access to DLCs. ME3 DLCs used to be region-free from the start (they had used the language from your in-game settings), DAI - I've only bought 'Trespasser' for my 'native Mexican' game, and I did it via VPN (to avoid any issues, the price had been same anyway - if not cheaper). MEA? Hell if I know what they do to us this time.
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Post by RussianGuyovich1313 on Mar 23, 2017 6:22:34 GMT
'Tell me you have something'(c) Commander Shepard @ Mordin
Ok, a possible solution. Wait so what to do I do with the downloaded files?
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Post by RussianGuyovich1313 on Mar 23, 2017 6:31:01 GMT
Also I don't have a HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\WOW6432Node\Origin Games\1019025_oa, but editing the rest didn't help, am I missing something? I am simply a lost lamb in the slaughterhouse of EA's foreign market policy. Oh why couldn't ME just be on steam...
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Post by evolventa on Mar 23, 2017 7:30:39 GMT
'Tell me you have something'(c) Commander Shepard @ Mordin
Ok, a possible solution. Suggested by this man. This one had been originally used to bring Russian subs into English, but it is REPORTED TO BE WORKING PLEASE TRY it vice versa AND CONFIRM here! Didn't work for me. Game is still in Russian. No other options in the language selection menu. I don't have a '1019025_oa' entry, too, though I doubt it's relevant. I've searched the registry for 'Andromeda' string to replace all locale variables, but that didn't change anything. Oh, and 'Outcome' method doesn't work, either. Makes sense, considering the alternative client hasn't been updated since 2013.
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Post by ksanterx on Mar 23, 2017 7:50:40 GMT
Didn't work for me too. But I noticed that the only file that really makes difference is ru.toc (or pl.toc) in the ../patch/Win32/loctext/ folder. If it's present, I can rename any other *.sb file to ru.sb or change paths in the original file and the game still runs. If I just rename any other file to ru.sb, I don't get any text while if I use the original I still get Russian even if I changed the paths inside to en/fr/es/pl etc.
If I change ru.toc to any other *.toc file, the game crashes on startup.
Changing files in the Data folder doesn't influence the game at all, even when I removed ru.toc and ru.sb. Game still works.
I opened *.toc files with HEX editors but I don't see what I can change there. They look encrypted.
Also, the structure of en.sb file is different in many parts from ru.sb.
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Post by NRieh on Mar 23, 2017 9:27:31 GMT
You were supposed to put them into your MEA folder. Replace the exe, each .zip is named after their locations (e.g. \data\win32\loctext) I've checked it - it's for the MEA Trial. It's ok not to have it. What does it say\do? Any prompts or just nothing? And what about the Origin launch options? Russian? I assume that's because Rusisan is not gender-neutral, we've got all those male\female endings for verbs and adjectives. Must have something to do with it, but it does not really matter since all the matching EN strings should have their paths right anyway. Rewtiting the entire script table just to unnoy us seems like an overkill. Should not be a thing. I'm following the other reports on this 'solution', at this point it's like the author is the only one who had it working. I don't see why would anyone register on forum just to post a fake, must be more to it, some steps are missing. A tiny detail - according to the original post, Origin was possibly open during the regediting. It says about 'restarting' the origin, not opening\running it, but I assumed it's just a poor wording. Worth trying, I guess..
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Post by lexxxich on Mar 23, 2017 11:20:34 GMT
Suggested by this man. This one had been originally used to bring Russian subs into English, but it is REPORTED TO BE WORKING PLEASE TRY it vice versa AND CONFIRM here! - Reg-editing.
1. Download the files from my link in the OP, I've added the new file - original English .exe 2. run regedit windows utility 3. Locate HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\WOW6432Node\BioWare\Mass Effect Andromeda 4. Change Locale variable from ru_RU (or PL) to en_US 5. Do the same with - HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\WOW6432Node\Origin Games\1019025- HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\WOW6432Node\Origin Games\1019025_oa6. Run Origin & MEA 7. Check your in-game language settings Doesn't seem to work for me. Added/replaced files, edited the registry, game autoupdate is off, but no text language selection appeared in-game.
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Post by evolventa on Mar 23, 2017 13:29:40 GMT
What does it say\do? Any prompts or just nothing? And what about the Origin launch options? Russian? No prompts, it starts normally. I've tried switching language settings in Origin client, that has not changed a thing. EA claims that language selection in Origin is purely cosmetic. I'm following the other reports on this 'solution', at this point it's like the author is the only one who had it working. I don't see why would anyone register on forum just to post a fake, must be more to it, some steps are missing. A tiny detail - according to the original post, Origin was possibly open during the regediting. It says about 'restarting' the origin, not opening\running it, but I assumed it's just a poor wording. Worth trying, I guess.. I've seen reports managing to add an extra language to the initially multilingual game, but none changing the language in the region-locked one. Oh, and Origin was on on during regediting. Thanks for all the effort yo're putting into it, by the way. It's appreciated.
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Post by Karrus on Mar 23, 2017 14:14:14 GMT
Considering how much had they changed, I would not put my life on the answer. Your game is as good as any regular Origin purchase. Once you activate it - you own it, and you get full access to DLCs. ME3 DLCs used to be region-free from the start (they had used the language from your in-game settings), DAI - I've only bought 'Trespasser' for my 'native Mexican' game, and I did it via VPN (to avoid any issues, the price had been same anyway - if not cheaper). MEA? Hell if I know what they do to us this time. I see, thank you. guess I'll wait for cdkeys.com to release deluxe ed then, if they ever do. and worry about future dlcs when they come out. not really sold on this whole vpn thing. heard contradicting opinions about it, like the payment getting through just fine and game ending up in english, but people were unable to play the game without the program running. not sure what would cause that, as far as I understand it's only needed to put the right item into the "basket". unless the date was somehow what was causing the issue? bought a version that was playable on 21st, but their country released the game on 23rd so origin blocked the game if they tried to play it without vpn before 23rd. could that be a thing? I wonder. gotta say, never tried it myself. my solution for region-locked games before was to just buy the game normally and screw that. don't download it via origin, then torrent the same version of the game but in english and just play offline. never really cared about playing online anyway. but yeah, that assumes the game got cracked already. and if you're really nitpicky it may not be fully legal for you... dunno why it wouldn't be tho, as long as you download the same version you bought (if you only bought base game then only torrent base game, obviously). you have a proof of purchase so...
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Post by murzinio on Mar 23, 2017 16:50:49 GMT
The problem is in the .toc file where are stored CAS offsets for localization bundles. The file is XOR encrypted (most likely), and without changing it all you can manage to do is getting rid of the text like someone did already by editing only .sb file. That .toc file needs to be decrypted, edited along with .sb and encrypted again. Changing registry values or anything like that won't work.
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Post by NRieh on Mar 23, 2017 17:05:44 GMT
Had you looked into game 'launch options'? That's where the game starting language is defined. It should also be possible to change them in-game. From what I can see, this regedit trick does work for EN-->RU, but NOT vice versa (for now). The very last thing to try - is to entirely remove the trial exe from your folder (if you have it). Little hope, I know, but it's not like we have something to lose, right? I'm going to add that regedit thing into OP, in case some people need to add RU subs later. I'd appreciate someone linking th Russian exe\folders to put it there. As the owner of two 'global' games on my Ru-Origin, I can 100% confirm that it's not true. If you have English (global) version tied to your account - it's not going anywhere, it's English and it's..well, 'global'. VPN only defines the IP for your 'location' when you buy it. Technically it's 100% same as buying a global disk elswhere (which had been recommended here by EA support couple of pages ago), or buying a key. Just more expensive and with no 3rd party retailers involved. Now Steam is the different story, they have all kind of flags defining where the game version can or can not be sold\gifted\activated. They use those flags instead of cutting out the languages, to keep the regional pricing within the regions. E.g. if someone buys cheap CIS version via VPN 'from Russia' on Steam, they are dead-locked with having VPN on all the time (that's if Steam does not detect proxy connection and\or ban them for good). I can't gift anything to my EU friends, because most of the games can not be activated in their countries. Origin is not known for its complex logic. Hell, it took them 10 years to add a 'gift' option, lol!
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Post by NRieh on Mar 23, 2017 17:11:45 GMT
The problem is in the .toc file where are stored CAS offsets for localization bundles. The file is XOR encrypted (most likely), and without changing it all you can manage to do is getting rid of the text like someone did already by editing only .sb file. That .toc file needs to be decrypted, edited along with .sb and encrypted again. Changing registry values or anything like that won't work. The thing is -it had worked for DAI, which had the same layout and lots of encyption too. Hell, DAI did not even allow to copy save files between the PTs (I was trying to make a new PT using the first prologue save from the older one, any following save was going into the previous PT anyway, renaming or editing did not work). So, there must be some way to get into MEA sb&toc.
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Post by murzinio on Mar 23, 2017 17:26:52 GMT
DAI .toc localisation files weren't encrypted, that's why it worked (and you had to edit them). I have it right now on my PC and I compared the files. It's the same in NFS Rivals iirc, but many Frostbite games have them encrypted. Someone figured out that encryption for BF3, but I tried using the method and it doesn't work with Andromeda, apparently it didn't work with BF1 too, so they changed the key and/or file structure back then. Besides you can see in the file header that version is changed.
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Post by ksanterx on Mar 23, 2017 20:10:54 GMT
Yeah, I've spent most of the day trying to find a key with various XOR tools but no luck. Maybe it's not even XOR. And the key itself can be everything. Someone with better knowledge, better tools and more time on their hands needed to break the encryption.
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Post by Karrus on Mar 23, 2017 20:16:34 GMT
As the owner of two 'global' games on my Ru-Origin, I can 100% confirm that it's not true. If you have English (global) version tied to your account - it's not going anywhere, it's English and it's..well, 'global'. VPN only defines the IP for your 'location' when you buy it. Technically it's 100% same as buying a global disk elswhere (which had been recommended here by EA support couple of pages ago), or buying a key. Just more expensive and with no 3rd party retailers involved. I get ya. was just saying I saw a few people complaining they couldn't launch the game without vpn. whatever the reason for the issue was it's no big deal, but still interesting why it occurs for some people. gonna admit tho, that -at least polish prices- are quite cheaper on kinguin/cdkeys than on origin actually. A+ for that, you get whatever language you want AND you pay less. you just have to remember that buying directly via origin is generally safer. I personally don't like steam nor origin. both cause more headaches than it's worth it. sticking to gog for as many games as I can, if they're steam/origin exclusive then, oh well, bring on the headaches. but I'm definitely not gonna complain that at least origin still has some workarounds for region locks.
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Post by murzinio on Mar 23, 2017 21:25:01 GMT
Yeah, I've spent most of the day trying to find a key with various XOR tools but no luck. Maybe it's not even XOR. And the key itself can be everything. Someone with better knowledge, better tools and more time on their hands needed to break the encryption. They used XOR previously but yeah, they could change the method. Or even use key that is as long as the file which would make it not possible to decrypt. If they use decryptable XOR key, like 257 bytes long in BF3 then someone could try. If you look at DAI not-encrypted files you at least know what to expect, there is lot of paths in .toc that start with Win32/loctext/so you can start with looking for 14-byte sequences that are reappearing in the file, if key is not too long it should be XORed with the same bytes few times and that would give you part of the key, probably the length of it too. But tbh I just started playing the game with Polish shitty translation, I can live with that if the alternative is spending probably more time on decrypting than playing the actual game.
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Post by volatileschemer on Mar 23, 2017 23:19:38 GMT
Superb logic on EA part. They punish Poles and Russians with region locks yet global keys on shady reseller sites are 20% cheaper than the equivalent of 60 dollar premium I'm expected to drop in Poland on Origin.
I just can't wrap my head around the absurdity of this situation.
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Post by evolventa on Mar 24, 2017 7:39:58 GMT
Had you looked into game 'launch options'? That's where the game starting language is defined. It should also be possible to change them in-game. There is only one option there, too, and it's Russian. I've tried deleting the *Trial.exe - curiously, the game doesn't start at all without that file.
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Post by teerave on Mar 24, 2017 9:53:06 GMT
Righto, so I've found a way to make it work. It's something of a last resort and not permanent but hey, I no longer have to suffer russian text. Simply ask a friend of yours with an EN game to let you use their origin account, log in, it's gonna do the file checking and then you'll be able to play in english. Go offline and block both origin and ME:A in firewall and done. not perfect, no mp, but a solution nonetheless.
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Post by NRieh on Mar 24, 2017 12:11:51 GMT
OK, but why does the EN-->RU regedit+copy-paste switching work then? Are you saying that they only encrypt some of the 'loctext's? But RU texts are confirmed to work fine wth the regedited EN version, they are recognizable and usable with no extra decryption involved. I feel like it's the wrong path, there's something about the RU\PL version that dead-locks the settings. Same language sets, same .EXEs, same regediting, but EN version becomes viable & multilingual, while RU\PL remains locked and\or broken.
Where does our Origin client even get this 'launch option' from? PCs don't work magic, it's all about binary logic. Any variable can possibly be changed, one way or the other. Or (at the very least) - located.
Had anyone already tried full scanning & file-by-file comparing with the game folders? I could run tests on mine (EN), but we'd better use the same utility for both versions, and I don't have anything like that installed at the moment. Anyone with the Ru\Pl copy willing to try - let me know, we'll make it happen.
It's also a good idea to dig into Origin reg keys and setting files.
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