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Post by ryerye17 on Mar 16, 2017 15:04:45 GMT
Put it this way -
What if there were no manual saves on Virmire? The ENTIRE mission?
Or no manual saves on the Suicide Mission?
Hey, you misclicked and accidentally saved the space racist? Too freaking bad, you may need to replay the whole mission to get Kaidan back.
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Post by Laughing_Crow on Mar 16, 2017 15:17:34 GMT
I can't see the sense in this, particularly at lower story type levels of game play. I can see this at high levels or an extreme level with limited save options when the game informs you of the condition.
Or if this is some new 'feature,' the game should inform you ahead of time - it's not something you want to learn the hard way.
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Post by Missy Mako on Mar 16, 2017 15:22:06 GMT
On the flip side though someone did just say 'hopefully the checkpoints are genrous'. And with ME 3 seemed like the game was autosaving every 2 seconds or before Shepard did a fart in the wind so hopefully we have a similar situation here. ,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸-(_MEA_)-,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸
The question, though, is this. Can you manually reload the game from an autosave checkpoint or is it strictly an internal function that gets activated when you die?
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Post by ssanyesz on Mar 16, 2017 15:23:00 GMT
Hate these kinds of restrictions. I would understand that i can't save during cutscenes or conversations and during combat, but can't at all during missions? That system is just there to annoy, because it doesn't have any benefits. Maybe in their next game we can't save at all, just enter a 4 digit code and continue from level 3 like in older games  I know i went overboard a little.  By the way does anyone know if we can skip cutscenes and movies? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2017 15:24:42 GMT
,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸-(_MEA_)-,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸
The question, though, is this. Can you manually reload the game from an autosave checkpoint or is it strictly an internal function that gets activated when you die?
Yes, you can load saves (auto or otherwise) from the pause menu. Thank you for clearing that up. |
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Post by empirex on Mar 16, 2017 15:52:20 GMT
I genuinely want to know the logic behind this. And no, Bioware trying to fuck with us is not a valid answer. Only thing I can think of is BioWare does not want people 'gaming the system' saving the game and reloading just to avoid making all the 'wrong' decisions in the trees. Which is silly but its the best I've got. Silly Bioware. Think they can stop me from save scumming. |
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Post by belhawk on Mar 16, 2017 16:13:39 GMT
no manual saves is BAD!
1. saves get corrupted BW, did u think of that?
2. people have a life and game play gets interrupted. U need to save and do other things. Having no manual saves limits playing time because I have to say, do i have time for this game now or should i wait till later or another day?
3. it prevents u from going back and picking different dialog options to see what they are.
4. players may want to redo a fight using different tactics.
AND no saves for side quests, i saw this in a review, online abt the 1st two hours of game play, single player. I guess BW does NOT want players to do the side quests.
NO MANUAL SAVES is a serious FLAW to this game and needs to be FIXED!
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Post by Ocelot on Mar 16, 2017 16:16:48 GMT
Its something I noticed as well, and I'm not happy about it.
Hopefully they have a very good reason for this and otherwise patch it in the future.
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Post by pantherdane on Mar 16, 2017 16:23:49 GMT
Username checks out. I saved the game several times after the first mission. Its only then and it autosaves about every 30 seconds when you are moving forward. The drama is in everyones minds. All this catastrophic end of the world, we are all doomed, emo drama over the SLIGHTEST little things is so comical. "What? No half caf decaf skinny lattes served on the ship? That's it. I canceled my preorder!!!" It's very easy to overstate the amount of drama being implied by others here though, isn't it? I merely said it was an inconvenience and would enjoy the game more with a manual save... and got into a 5 post responding session here with someone. I'm not being overly dramatic over this. It's an industry trend I disagree with and I do enjoy games more when they allow me the ability to manually save. That's not being dramatic... that's being honest. I can tell Bioware I would prefer they allowed manual saves... but in the end, the only decision I'm empowered to make as a consumer is whether or not I still want to buy their game. In making that decision, I'm certainly not going to base it on just this one item... I'm ticking the boxes of things that are important to me on both sides of the ledger (positve and negative). If another product comes up with more positives than Andromeda... I'm probably going to spend my $100 on that game instead. That's just life in a free-market economy. I was replying to a guy that felt compelled to type in bold mega font over not being able to save every sec or so in the first half hour of a game when the autosave is about every 20 or so secs. If thats NOT being dramatic, nothing is. Lol |
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Post by luketrevelyan on Mar 16, 2017 16:26:30 GMT
This is going to be a major irritant. The rule for RPGs has always been to save often and in different slots. You never know when you will need to reload a save and sometimes you want to choose how far back you want to go. I don't understand this decision at all.
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Post by stealthfox94 on Mar 16, 2017 16:28:20 GMT
Wow that's bad..........I hate game's with shitty save functions. TW3 had one of the best saving mechanics IMO. Shadow of Mordor had a bad one. I really hope they fix this.
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Post by KaiserShep on Mar 16, 2017 16:30:59 GMT
Lol why you scaring me like that? Gotta keep you sharp and on your toes. |
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Post by KaiserShep on Mar 16, 2017 16:34:32 GMT
no manual saves is BAD! 1. saves get corrupted BW, did u think of that? 2. people have a life and game play gets interrupted. U need to save and do other things. Having no manual saves limits playing time because I have to say, do i have time for this game now or should i wait till later or another day? 3. it prevents u from going back and picking different dialog options to see what they are. 4. players may want to redo a fight using different tactics. AND no saves for side quests, i saw this in a review, online abt the 1st two hours of game play, single player. I guess BW does NOT want players to do the side quests. NO MANUAL SAVES is a serious FLAW to this game and needs to be FIXED! On the first point, it's been my experience that corrupted saves can happen regardless. I've had manual saves that couldn't load on account of that. |
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Post by drugarth on Mar 16, 2017 16:58:04 GMT
was in the intro mission, and got called to do some quick work related thing, but I couldn't save...major pain in the but....so work had to wait a bit :-)
How do I notice at what point it autosaves? Is it when the big "arrow down" symbol appears?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2017 17:03:33 GMT
Obviously that is what I'm going to have to do, right? The question is why should I have to keep replaying little sections of the game from a previous autosave in a single-player game. I don't care that some other guy might use the feature to "cheat themselves" in their own single-player game. I would still prefer to use (i.e. enjoy using) the convenience of being able to manually save whenever I need to. Not having it diminishes my enjoyment of the game. Make it such that there are too many long sections without a manual saving ability, and I'm simply not going to enjoy playing that game near as much as one that offers me that convenience. You don't care about that, but Bioware apparently does. And it's their game. Their software, my hardware. I usually play with autosave turned off, yet ME3 always deposits a save file at the beginning of every mission. My PS3 is pretty old, its disk drive has been rewritten many, many times, and I'm trying to keep it going as long as I can. The number of times disk space can be rewritten is not infinite, and hard drives eventually fail. I've lost count of the number of times I've ended up quitting out of the game, and restarting to load my last manual save (with the load function) instead of some autosave they dumped on the system without my knowledge/consent (resume). Software that automatically saves every 20-30 seconds isn't something I'm keen to have running on my hardware. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2017 17:07:27 GMT
no manual saves is BAD! 1. saves get corrupted BW, did u think of that? 2. people have a life and game play gets interrupted. U need to save and do other things. Having no manual saves limits playing time because I have to say, do i have time for this game now or should i wait till later or another day? 3. it prevents u from going back and picking different dialog options to see what they are. 4. players may want to redo a fight using different tactics. AND no saves for side quests, i saw this in a review, online abt the 1st two hours of game play, single player. I guess BW does NOT want players to do the side quests. NO MANUAL SAVES is a serious FLAW to this game and needs to be FIXED! On the first point, it's been my experience that corrupted saves can happen regardless. I've had manual saves that couldn't load on account of that. Sure, but with manual saves, you can manage how much progress you'd lose by using multiple save files. Autosave usually rewrites the same file over and over and over... |
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Post by Beany on Mar 16, 2017 17:17:14 GMT
Wtf...
I'm one of those people who quicksaves every 10 seconds, so this is gonna hurt me.
I also like to make manual saves when I know/have a feeling that something big is about to happen in case I need to load back.
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Post by belhawk on Mar 16, 2017 17:21:19 GMT
agreed, save often. save before mission, save before battle, & save before entering/leaving a building. always use multiple saves to avoid corruption. BW just did away with all of that. So, what happens if there single save gets corrupted?
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Post by wangxiuming on Mar 16, 2017 17:24:34 GMT
So it is only the first mission right? I haven't had problems saving after the first mission. I've been to both the central hub and the second planet. Have yet to encounter another sequence where I could not manual save. Will update if I do. |
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Post by wangxiuming on Mar 16, 2017 17:26:24 GMT
agreed, save often. save before mission, save before battle, & save before entering/leaving a building. always use multiple saves to avoid corruption. BW just did away with all of that. So, what happens if there single save gets corrupted? I have been able to do this after the prologue. I created multiple saves in different areas, some right before initiating a combat encounter. |
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Post by KaiserShep on Mar 16, 2017 17:48:09 GMT
Man hard to know whats real and whats not anymore. I need it to be the 21st already.
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Post by luketrevelyan on Mar 16, 2017 17:49:04 GMT
Has anyone asked the devs about the manual saving? If we could get an explanation that might help.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2017 17:53:26 GMT
It's very easy to overstate the amount of drama being implied by others here though, isn't it? I merely said it was an inconvenience and would enjoy the game more with a manual save... and got into a 5 post responding session here with someone. I'm not being overly dramatic over this. It's an industry trend I disagree with and I do enjoy games more when they allow me the ability to manually save. That's not being dramatic... that's being honest. I can tell Bioware I would prefer they allowed manual saves... but in the end, the only decision I'm empowered to make as a consumer is whether or not I still want to buy their game. In making that decision, I'm certainly not going to base it on just this one item... I'm ticking the boxes of things that are important to me on both sides of the ledger (positve and negative). If another product comes up with more positives than Andromeda... I'm probably going to spend my $100 on that game instead. That's just life in a free-market economy. I was replying to a guy that felt compelled to type in bold mega font over not being able to save every sec or so in the first half hour of a game when the autosave is about every 20 or so secs. If thats NOT being dramatic, nothing is. Lol ... and I was replying to this specific statement made by you: If you don't intend to make fun of "everyone" probably best not to use the word - lol. |
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Post by pantherdane on Mar 16, 2017 18:46:51 GMT
Yeah, everyone who is being all dramatic. That doesnt mean every living soul on this site. Lol
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Post by Ravenfeeder on Mar 16, 2017 19:04:58 GMT
I really hope it's just the one mission. I quick save religiously, even if I rarely go back to them. Who was it that taught me this behaviour? Why the makers of Baldur's Gate of course. After 20 years of it the practice is ingrained and not having it really detracts from my enjoyment. That goes doubly for priority missions where I'm more likely to need the save.
You should be able to save wherever you want, including in the middle of combat or a cut-scene. We want more save options not fewer ones.
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