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Post by anonymous on Mar 17, 2017 0:38:38 GMT
Success in MP is hugely reliant on player level. Veteran players do not benefit from playing with newer players as there is a power divide. Veterans are encouraged to leave lobbies hosted by under-leveled players. This design decision is popular in MMOs with a huge variety of content and huge playerbase, but is a death spell when the playerbase is limited. See: DAI:MP.
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Post by penguinfetish on Mar 17, 2017 0:39:14 GMT
The game hasn't even come out yet wtf
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Post by xaijin on Mar 17, 2017 0:40:59 GMT
The same statement was made about 3MP, and while the game certainly needs work in the MP department, a LOT of work, it is not the trainwreck abortion that DAI was, not even close.
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Post by What Else You Need To Know? on Mar 17, 2017 0:45:12 GMT
The same statement was made about 3MP, and while the game certainly needs work in the MP department, a LOT of work, it is not the trainwreck abortion that DAI was, not even close. I have to agree here. I haven't played the game for myself, but yeah the game needs some work. It is NOTHING as bad as DA: I was. I bash DAMP a lot. It deserves every rant too, but you still have to respect the guys that worked on that game post release and what they did with it. Heartbreaker actually was awesome and they did a good job on that. Shit game and that game is irrelevant to me for all future events. It was never a good game, but if you look at what DAMP became and what all they did with what they had to work with ME:A might be one bad mother. + ME:A already has more maps than that failure did when support for it was cut off  |
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Post by adrynbliss on Mar 17, 2017 1:24:54 GMT
same thing in me3 and I've been playing it recently can still always get a match. doomsaying nothing more. it's not all sunshine and rainbows I completely acknowledge there sure as heck are bugs in MP, few of them I've experienced personally, but this particular issue is a non issue.
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Post by anonymous on Mar 17, 2017 1:27:30 GMT
same thing in me3 and I've been playing it recently can still always get a match. doomsaying nothing more. it's not all sunshine and rainbows I completely acknowledge there sure as heck are bugs in MP, few of them I've experienced personally, but this particular issue is a non issue. this is not the same as me3mp. meamp is very much grind reliant. read this post in one year and you'll see i was right |
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Post by adrynbliss on Mar 17, 2017 1:31:38 GMT
same thing in me3 and I've been playing it recently can still always get a match. doomsaying nothing more. it's not all sunshine and rainbows I completely acknowledge there sure as heck are bugs in MP, few of them I've experienced personally, but this particular issue is a non issue. this is not the same as me3mp. meamp is very much grind reliant. read this post in one year and you'll see i was right MEAMP is grind reliant, long term it's specifically designed to be grind reliant, it's been stated numerous times by devs about player long term goals and we've seen for ourselves in the trial the bonus are gonna take a LONG time to grind. |
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Post by anonymous on Mar 17, 2017 1:34:06 GMT
this is not the same as me3mp. meamp is very much grind reliant. read this post in one year and you'll see i was right MEAMP is grind reliant, long term it's specifically designed to be grind reliant, it's been stated numerous times by devs about player long term goals and we've seen for ourselves in the trial the bonus are gonna take a LONG time to grind. exactly. which is why it will die because of playerbase divide. |
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Post by stardog89 on Mar 17, 2017 1:35:24 GMT
The same statement was made about 3MP, and while the game certainly needs work in the MP department, a LOT of work, it is not the trainwreck abortion that DAI was, not even close. I have to agree here. I haven't played the game for myself, but yeah the game needs some work. It is NOTHING as bad as DA: I was. I bash DAMP a lot. It deserves every rant too, but you still have to respect the guys that worked on that game post release and what they did with it. Heartbreaker actually was awesome and they did a good job on that. Shit game and that game is irrelevant to me for all future events. It was never a good game, but if you look at what DAMP became and what all they did with what they had to work with ME:A might be one bad mother. + ME:A already has more maps than that failure did when support for it was cut off This is based off of things you've heard, seen... or what? |
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Post by adrynbliss on Mar 17, 2017 1:35:59 GMT
MEAMP is grind reliant, long term it's specifically designed to be grind reliant, it's been stated numerous times by devs about player long term goals and we've seen for ourselves in the trial the bonus are gonna take a LONG time to grind. exactly. which is why it will die because of playerbase divide. ok so now we all know you are trolling, first it will die because not like me3 now it will die because it is like me3 even though it's been pointed out ME3 is still going strong. everyone can move along and this thread should be deleted. |
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Post by Illiana on Mar 17, 2017 1:36:48 GMT
I think it will be very successful. There are some changes that people will have to adapt to, like not really having good cover because they have things that pull you out of cover, but it was quite fun. Take your naysayer home.
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Post by Wolfwhistler on Mar 17, 2017 1:42:22 GMT
I have to agree here. I haven't played the game for myself, but yeah the game needs some work. It is NOTHING as bad as DA: I was. I bash DAMP a lot. It deserves every rant too, but you still have to respect the guys that worked on that game post release and what they did with it. Heartbreaker actually was awesome and they did a good job on that. Shit game and that game is irrelevant to me for all future events. It was never a good game, but if you look at what DAMP became and what all they did with what they had to work with ME:A might be one bad mother. + ME:A already has more maps than that failure did when support for it was cut off This is based off of things you've heard, seen... or what? I've played it and can very much say it needs work. Pretty much everything has been said though. Bad netcode, floaty feeling, not feeling the impact of attacks, sound problems, mic defaulting to sound detection, being unable to tell where things are going on due to bad hud and sound design, and several other things. However, it is fun. And I believe some of the problems will work out as we get used to it, but it still needs a lot of work. I'd say it's like 3/4 baked at this time. I think it will get better as they patch it but at this time it does need a lot of work. |
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Post by anonymous on Mar 17, 2017 1:55:36 GMT
exactly. which is why it will die because of playerbase divide. ok so now we all know you are trolling, first it will die because not like me3 now it will die because it is like me3 even though it's been pointed out ME3 is still going strong. everyone can move along and this thread should be deleted. no, you just happen to be illiterate. not my problem. learn to read. |
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Post by spacev3gan on Mar 17, 2017 2:00:26 GMT
Well, I haven't played the game yet. But I am having the feeling that the grind is going to be pretty heavy. When four random people (most of whom are likely to be experienced in shooter games) can barely get a 20 min game done on the lowest difficulty setting and even when they succeed all they get is 1/10 of the value of a Premium Pack, then we can tell the situation is quite dire. And if playing with pugs is just way too unproductive, people will simply not do it.
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Post by What Else You Need To Know? on Mar 17, 2017 2:00:56 GMT
I have to agree here. I haven't played the game for myself, but yeah the game needs some work. It is NOTHING as bad as DA: I was. I bash DAMP a lot. It deserves every rant too, but you still have to respect the guys that worked on that game post release and what they did with it. Heartbreaker actually was awesome and they did a good job on that. Shit game and that game is irrelevant to me for all future events. It was never a good game, but if you look at what DAMP became and what all they did with what they had to work with ME:A might be one bad mother. + ME:A already has more maps than that failure did when support for it was cut off This is based off of things you've heard, seen... or what? All the above. It's also less to do with the technical side of things and the more to do with the caliber of characters and their abilities, cover system, melee, grabs, display, and love of geth. |
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Post by biotichazard on Mar 17, 2017 7:17:24 GMT
I was thinking the same thing when I was playing it, but now that I've spent some time thinking about it, I've changed my mind. After 10 hours, I got the hang of it. If I had 5 more hours to play, I'm pretty sure I'd have a character high enough to be extracting on gold regularly. The problem I saw was that it's really hard to take a low level character into a high level game and XP came very slowly, thus leaving me endlessly in silver and bronze.
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Post by stysiaq on Mar 17, 2017 7:29:47 GMT
Success in MP is hugely reliant on player level. Veteran players do not benefit from playing with newer players as there is a power divide. Veterans are encouraged to leave lobbies hosted by under-leveled players. This design decision is popular in MMOs with a huge variety of content and huge playerbase, but is a death spell when the playerbase is limited. See: DAI:MP. you are wrong, ME:A MP will fail because there will be no female adept romance with full frontal nudity, nor there will be an official bodypillow If only biower knew |
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Post by Kappa Neko on Mar 17, 2017 7:41:44 GMT
If there's even a ounce of truth in the grindfest impressions, then MP is a failure too for me. I have no interest in this business practice whatsoever.
This whole game looks like an embarrassment. But I'll reserve final judgment until I've played some myself (on a borrowed copy so that I'm not wasting money if as bad as the videos suggest).
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Post by biotichazard on Mar 17, 2017 9:05:40 GMT
I have no idea where you got the idea this game looks like an embarrassment. All the few who are complaining loudly right now are the vocal few who just like to whine. In every activity, there are always haters and whiners. It simply makes them feel good like little kids crying. All I will say is I thoroughly enjoyed playing it. I had a few games that exposed bugs, but those of us who played m3 mp from the start are used to it.
I don't think this game is going to turn into a grind fest. With the exception of 1 or 2 games, every game I played had freelancing players. People weren't camping and grinding out kills. I will not grind for credits anymore. I did it in the early days of mp3 before I figured out how to play, and that experience was enough to last a lifetime. Andromeda might frustrate people who are caught up in the whole full manifest race, but for those who play for fun, it'll be fun. Anyone who is coming from me3 with a full or nearly full manifest and thinking they can have the same overpowering the enemy in a fun way experience was delusional from the start. You're not going to overwhelm the enemy with your Avenger. You're not going to get to missile spam enemies for points like so many scrubs.
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Post by biotichazard on Mar 17, 2017 9:13:27 GMT
I'll say this one last thing on this topic. Let me try and be clear about this. This game was EASY! Ok, there were more enemies per rounds. The bosses were tougher than in ME3. However, I extracted almost every game and had a ton of fun doing it. That last part is the most important part. It was hella fun.
This is what's going to happen. You're going to let the whiners talk you out of trying it early and then a month or two from now when you do jump in, you're going to find a massive mp community that's been at it for months with a huge head start. I didn't preorder this game before the trial. After the trial, I preordered immediately.
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Post by degrees on Mar 17, 2017 9:38:58 GMT
I'll say this one last thing on this topic. Let me try and be clear about this. This game was EASY! Ok, there were more enemies per rounds. The bosses were tougher than in ME3. However, I extracted almost every game and had a ton of fun doing it. That last part is the most important part. It was hella fun. This is what's going to happen. You're going to let the whiners talk you out of trying it early and then a month or two from now when you do jump in, you're going to find a massive mp community that's been at it for months with a huge head start. I didn't preorder this game before the trial. After the trial, I preordered immediately. Oh I do hope you're right. |
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Post by Kenny Bania on Mar 17, 2017 9:59:41 GMT
I have no idea where you got the idea this game looks like an embarrassment. All the few who are complaining loudly right now are the vocal few who just like to whine. In every activity, there are always haters and whiners. It simply makes them feel good like little kids crying. All I will say is I thoroughly enjoyed playing it. I had a few games that exposed bugs, but those of us who played m3 mp from the start are used to it. I don't think this game is going to turn into a grind fest. With the exception of 1 or 2 games, every game I played had freelancing players. People weren't camping and grinding out kills. I will not grind for credits anymore. I did it in the early days of mp3 before I figured out how to play, and that experience was enough to last a lifetime. Andromeda might frustrate people who are caught up in the whole full manifest race, but for those who play for fun, it'll be fun. Anyone who is coming from me3 with a full or nearly full manifest and thinking they can have the same overpowering the enemy in a fun way experience was delusional from the start. You're not going to overwhelm the enemy with your Avenger. You're not going to get to missile spam enemies for points like so many scrubs. |
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Post by SalMasRac on Mar 17, 2017 11:18:20 GMT
I have no idea where you got the idea this game looks like an embarrassment. All the few who are complaining loudly right now are the vocal few who just like to whine. In every activity, there are always haters and whiners. It simply makes them feel good like little kids crying. All I will say is I thoroughly enjoyed playing it. I had a few games that exposed bugs, but those of us who played m3 mp from the start are used to it. I don't think this game is going to turn into a grind fest. With the exception of 1 or 2 games, every game I played had freelancing players. People weren't camping and grinding out kills. I will not grind for credits anymore. I did it in the early days of mp3 before I figured out how to play, and that experience was enough to last a lifetime. Andromeda might frustrate people who are caught up in the whole full manifest race, but for those who play for fun, it'll be fun. Anyone who is coming from me3 with a full or nearly full manifest and thinking they can have the same overpowering the enemy in a fun way experience was delusional from the start. You're not going to overwhelm the enemy with your Avenger. You're not going to get to missile spam enemies for points like so many scrubs. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL It's not whining. The game has issues that no so-called 'AAA' game should have. |
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Post by penguinfetish on Mar 17, 2017 11:21:54 GMT
If there's even a ounce of truth in the grindfest impressions, then MP is a failure too for me. I have no interest in this business practice whatsoever. This whole game looks like an embarrassment. But I'll reserve final judgment until I've played some myself (on a borrowed copy so that I'm not wasting money if as bad as the videos suggest). Oh man youre gonna hate it when you realise this practice is in almost every popular pve multiplayer game that comes out |
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