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Post by ioannisdenton on Mar 21, 2017 9:21:56 GMT
I came from a time when games weren't evaluated by que quality of it's facial animations, because they didn't even exist! so, when did this change? Now if a game introduces something new, every other game after that will be penalized if they don't implement something better than the other game, even if the other game is from another company? No idea if I qualify to be in your generation or not (33 years old here) but the point is this. A game 10 years old from the same company, from the same universe did many things better then ME A and I am referring here to ME 1. Certain things are now the standard, the norm. When you buy a TV now you expect it to be in color, a bunch of years back you had black and white but I am sure that if you both a TV now and it would be B&W you would take it back and be pissed as hell. A lso, considering this is an industry where this people are in a competition with one another having the same standards or better should be a main focus for BW. If you are as old as you say you should now how business works. At the company I work we are constantly trying to have better services then our competition and when clients compare us to other companies in the same field of work we don't blame the client for not living up to those standards. But hell, you want to blame the customer for not being pleased with a product BW is offering? Like really? If you like it then good for you. I am very upset with what BW is today... Still both the game but meh... Τhis man gets it. 35 here btw |
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Mar 21, 2017 9:25:29 GMT
Don't know how the hell to impliment it but there needs to be a screening process when it comes to user ratings and reviews on metacritic in which the user can prove they have played the damn game all the way through. Also maybe an IQ test to filter out Cletus before he starts ranting about "dem dere SJWs" and then gives it a 0 because he got triggered by turians and asari. Too multicultural for him.
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Post by mordrek on Mar 21, 2017 9:27:08 GMT
Are you.... aware that was supposed to be uncomfy and awkward? τThat wscene was fynny imo. its a good, scene. give credit where its due Different stroke for different folks I guess. The problem of course is, no human beings acts that way. The instant she blurted out and embarrassed the other woman, you'd hang your head in shame and apologize and walk away... It's like saying, "I really like you, you have a nice smile." And when the other person blushes and is embarrassed you double down with, "And you've got a really great butt too!" Humans don't do that. Teen fiction does that. You will also notice, during the entire conversation Ryder's expression doesn't change, she doesn't turn her head away, or hang her head when she "apologizes" and such, which is where the shoddy animations come in. |
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Post by blueasari on Mar 21, 2017 9:30:03 GMT
Don't know how the hell to impliment it but there needs to be a screening process when it comes to user ratings and reviews on metacritic in which the user can prove they have played the damn game all the way through. Also maybe an IQ test to filter out Cletus before he starts ranting about "dem dere SJWs" and then gives it a 0 because he got triggered by turbans and asari. Too multicultural for him.  |
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Post by mordrek on Mar 21, 2017 9:32:46 GMT
I came from a time when games weren't evaluated by que quality of it's facial animations, because they didn't even exist! so, when did this change? Now if a game introduces something new, every other game after that will be penalized if they don't implement something better than the other game, even if the other game is from another company? No idea if I qualify to be in your generation or not (33 years old here) but the point is this. A game 10 years old from the same company, from the same universe did many things better then ME A and I am referring here to ME 1. Certain things are now the standard, the norm. When you buy a TV now you expect it to be in color, a bunch of years back you had black and white but I am sure that if you both a TV now and it would be B&W you would take it back and be pissed as hell. Also, considering this is an industry where this people are in a competition with one another having the same standards or better should be a main focus for BW. If you are as old as you say you should now how business works. At the company I work we are constantly trying to have better services then our competition and when clients compare us to other companies in the same field of work we don't blame the client for not living up to those standards. But hell, you want to blame the customer for not being pleased with a product BW is offering? Like really? If you like it then good for you. I am very upset with what BW is today... Still both the game but meh... I agree 100%. It also makes me laugh that these young people(I'm 38 here) who get so upset by the criticism thrown at Bioware. Anyone who's worked in a professional environment for very long will deal a client who is upset with their service. If you provide a substandard service or product, you should expect to be criticized. It's part and parcel to this thing we call life. |
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Post by blueasari on Mar 21, 2017 9:40:11 GMT
No idea if I qualify to be in your generation or not (33 years old here) but the point is this. A game 10 years old from the same company, from the same universe did many things better then ME A and I am referring here to ME 1. Certain things are now the standard, the norm. When you buy a TV now you expect it to be in color, a bunch of years back you had black and white but I am sure that if you both a TV now and it would be B&W you would take it back and be pissed as hell. Also, considering this is an industry where this people are in a competition with one another having the same standards or better should be a main focus for BW. If you are as old as you say you should now how business works. At the company I work we are constantly trying to have better services then our competition and when clients compare us to other companies in the same field of work we don't blame the client for not living up to those standards. But hell, you want to blame the customer for not being pleased with a product BW is offering? Like really? If you like it then good for you. I am very upset with what BW is today... Still both the game but meh... I agree 100%. It also makes me laugh that these young people(I'm 38 here) who get so upset by the criticism thrown at Bioware. Anyone who's worked in a professional environment for very long will deal a client who is upset with their service. If you provide a substandard service or product, you should expect to be criticized. It's part and parcel to this thing we call life. There is nothing wrong with constructive criticism but it does tend to always get lost when there are also obvious trolls that want to see the game fail. So when someone does have a genuine complaint they can be called a troll when really they are not. The majority of people seem to have enjoyed the game so far, of course there is mixed reviews on the low scale as well as the high scale so it is a very divided opinion which is like anything in life. Older gamer myself by the way 34. |
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Post by Andrew Lucas on Mar 21, 2017 9:40:55 GMT
Don't know how the hell to impliment it but there needs to be a screening process when it comes to user ratings and reviews on metacritic in which the user can prove they have played the damn game all the way through. Also maybe an IQ test to filter out Cletus before he starts ranting about "dem dere SJWs" and then gives it a 0 because he got triggered by turians and asari. Too multicultural for him. User scores are barely reliable. 0s and "SJW" for a game you didn't even buy or finished it. It's laughable. |
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Mar 21, 2017 9:42:17 GMT
Don't know how the hell to impliment it but there needs to be a screening process when it comes to user ratings and reviews on metacritic in which the user can prove they have played the damn game all the way through. Also maybe an IQ test to filter out Cletus before he starts ranting about "dem dere SJWs" and then gives it a 0 because he got triggered by turians and asari. Too multicultural for him. User scores are barely reliable. Barely? I think that is being generous. |
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Post by blueasari on Mar 21, 2017 9:46:20 GMT
Don't know how the hell to impliment it but there needs to be a screening process when it comes to user ratings and reviews on metacritic in which the user can prove they have played the damn game all the way through. Also maybe an IQ test to filter out Cletus before he starts ranting about "dem dere SJWs" and then gives it a 0 because he got triggered by turians and asari. Too multicultural for him. User scores are barely reliable. I have just been on there reading a couple it is quite sad, there is actually two reviews with different names but they are word for word the exact same comment but with different scores .  |
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Mar 21, 2017 9:48:19 GMT
Don't know how the hell to impliment it but there needs to be a screening process when it comes to user ratings and reviews on metacritic in which the user can prove they have played the damn game all the way through. Also maybe an IQ test to filter out Cletus before he starts ranting about "dem dere SJWs" and then gives it a 0 because he got triggered by turians and asari. Too multicultural for him. User scores are barely reliable. 0s and "SJW" for a game you didn't even buy or finished it. It's laughable. At the end you have to laugh at willfully ignorant morons. If someone is legitimately disappointed and gives the game a 4 or 5 with actual reasoning that is one thing. I may not like it but I can accept that they are at least capable of rationality. However if someone just starts derping about real world politics and then review bombs the game with a 1 or 0 than I will just mock them at this point. |
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Mar 21, 2017 9:51:26 GMT
User scores are barely reliable. I have just been on there reading a couple it is quite sad, there is actually two reviews with different names but they are word for word the exact same comment but with different scores . Lol wow that derper isn't even smart enough to change up his sentences. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2017 10:02:46 GMT
User reviews are just one piece of the puzzle. You put those together with "critic" reviews, video reviews, word of mouth, some gameplay video without too many spoilers, and you can have a decent picture of the quality of the game and whether or not you may like it.
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Post by flyingovertrout on Mar 21, 2017 10:03:20 GMT
TW3 is great but that facial hair shit just did not work. I remember early on playing Hearts of Stone, in the middle of the scene where he's in the ship as a prisoner, where his facial hair suddenly changed. Geralt had a goatee for several in-game days up until that very scene, and then the camera turns away from him for a moment, turns back, and BOOM--Geralt suddenly has a short, 5 O'clock shadow-ish beard. And oddly enough, the area around his mouth had shorter hair than his original goatee! It's a cute idea, but a silly execution. EDIT: By goatee I mean the van dyke, I guess. The 90s ingrained the wrong word in me. yes the plastic props hair in andromeda and the MS paint beards are better. The spray-on beards of MEA look bad, yeah. I didn't realize you and I were playing lawyers defending our clients in video game court, though. Stay light and breezy, nuBSN.  |
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Post by vonuber on Mar 21, 2017 10:06:51 GMT
ME1 has huge problems as a game; some people need to take off the rose tinted glasses.
In fact all 3 of them do; it's despite the flaws that people like them (I also suspect that if it was a standalone PC for each one people would not like it as much).
And currently despite the flaws of ME:A it like it, just like I did the other 3.
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Post by ioannisdenton on Mar 21, 2017 10:15:35 GMT
ME1 has huge problems as a game; some people need to take off the rose tinted glasses. In fact all 3 of them do; it's despite the flaws that people like them (I also suspect that if it was a standalone PC for each one people would not like it as much). And currently despite the flaws of ME:A it like it, just like I did the other 3. I will like it too. But i should not just like it. This one should really count. this should be more than great. I don't play bioware just as i play uncharted (which i also like very much) or other series. Bioware means a lot to me and each game had a certain ritual to it each playthrough i did. Sadly With MeA it seems from the lukewarm reception it gets and from how much i ve seen via streaming that i ll play this just like i play any other game. |
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Post by vonuber on Mar 21, 2017 10:18:15 GMT
Eh, I've never been that emotionally attached to Bioware (or any other company). They are just a software developer who make some fun games that pass the time, of varying quality over the years.
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Post by ioannisdenton on Mar 21, 2017 10:19:22 GMT
Eh, I've never been that emotionally attached to Bioware (or any other company). They are just a software developer who make some fun games that pass the time, of varying quality over the years. sadly bioware really wants to prove this statement to me |
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Post by Element Zero on Mar 21, 2017 14:33:25 GMT
The review, as in the written content, was worth a read. I don't feel Steve Wright's review score matched his review text. He cited serious technical glitches, including one that required a shutdown/reboot, yet said, "none of that matters". Okay, Steve. It doesn't matter for you, I guess. The thing you don't see me doing is getting upset about Steve's judgment that MEA deserves a 9.5, technical issues and all. Some here, in contrast, seem so deeply and personally wounded by these 6 and 7 scores that it's ruined their day. Some perspective is needed. Criticism from a professional critic is not a personal attack. Likewise, Steve Wright and I could probably laugh about our differences in opinion concerning the review score, and then get to the fun part of discussing the game itself. Those getting upset are completely losing sight of the fun. No one here is paid to get ulcers over review scores. That's BioWare's job. I've called out certain posters who have particularly thin skin myself. That's not what I'm talking about though. You wrote: Only a fool plugs his ears to opinions that don't tickle his fancy. I pointed out that that exact sentiment should go both ways. Should people who think this game is crap disregard the review that scored it 9.5? Judging by your comments, no, they should not. Because the reviewer has played the game and has important insights. They should love the game because the reviewer does! I don't think a person who dislike the premise of this game or whatever their reason for it has any obligation to take into account a reviewer's opinion that it is a great game, but the same goes for people who like the game, they don't have to listen to a reviewer who scored it a 6 or whatever. They don't have to be a fool just because they don't feel the same as that reviewer. Personally, I like the game regardless of the technical issues. No reviewer can make me feel any different. Am I a fool? Maybe. But a very happy one in that case.  That wasn't actually my point, but I don't disagree. My point was that they'd do well to not dismiss reviews simply because they don't agree. The score is part of that, but the thought processes that led up to that score are far more important. The score itself is the most subjective part of the review, which is one of the dozens of reasons why it's so silly to get upset about it. The less subjective stuff lies in detailimg explicit technical issues and achievements. The other main issue raised was, why other members were letting low review scores ruin their day? A few people seemed on the edge of a breakdown. Hopefully, my post inspires some thought. At any rate, they've hopefully moved into a better state of mind with personal access to the game, today. They can focus on their own opinions, without hyperventilating about the IGN or Metacritic score. |
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Post by SofaJockey on Mar 21, 2017 15:27:29 GMT
I'm taking an average of OpenCritic and MetaCritic, understand other review aggregators exist, but those two are easy to keep track of OpenCritic: 75 GameMetaCritic: PC- 78 PS- 75 XB -77 PC - PS4 - XB1 |
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Post by NRieh on Mar 22, 2017 13:05:51 GMT
Don't know how the hell to impliment it but there needs to be a screening process when it comes to user ratings and reviews on metacritic in which the user can prove they have played the damn game all the way through. Also maybe an IQ test to filter out Cletus before he starts ranting about "dem dere SJWs" and then gives it a 0 because he got triggered by turians and asari. Too multicultural for him. I've browsed some of those '0's profiles. Interesting reading. It's like many people had come to metacritic for the first time specifically to say how they hate MEA. Some of them had scored all 3 versions (PC,PS4,XBox), and that's on the release date...even BEFORE the release date (because Europe is still waiting). I mean - ok, let's assume you had played the OA trial on PC, you did not like it THAT MUCH, but how in the galaxy is it any relevant for the consoles? Same goes for judging 'story, dialogues and characters'. It can take up to 10 hours to get to Eos alone. What story had they seen and what dialogues had they heard (assuming they had even played the game)? It would be like judging ME1 'story,dialogues and characters' with the 'story' ending on Shep's first arrival to Citadel. Don't get me wrong. I'm not giving MEA '12 out of 10', there are things I hate about it and there a re things I enjoy. It would take no less than a week to see all of it (may be more) and have my final verdict ready. |
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Post by bizantura on Mar 23, 2017 0:42:54 GMT
In order to score any game one has to have played it. On release day scoring, amounts to hyperbole and nothing more. Going with the drumbeat is more important than experiencing first and mold that in some neutral rational to base a score on.
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Post by alanc9 on Mar 23, 2017 1:12:18 GMT
Are you.... aware that was supposed to be uncomfy and awkward? It isn't a well written scene regardless of the intent. The dialogue is stilted and painful, rather than endearing. Wasn't stilted and painful the intent? Hence the pilot's reaction. Endearing's subjective. Last I checked, that dialogue was quite popular over on the character board. Particularly among women, FWIW. |
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Post by laughingbanana on Mar 23, 2017 3:15:18 GMT
I don't know how anyone could say Bioware does not deserve the backlash when you have shit like this:
On the main game. I mean, what is even that. 5 years and you let crap like this pass your QA?
Oh and while I am at it, why not put this one down as well:
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Post by brunobyof on Mar 23, 2017 6:03:48 GMT
I don't know how anyone could say Bioware does not deserve the backlash when you have shit like this: On the main game. I mean, what is even that. 5 years and you let crap like this pass your QA? Oh and while I am at it, why not put this one down as well: well i didn't experience those bugs there...actually i had no real trouble with any bugs within almost 15 hours into the game. I'm not sure if a bug happening only into some cases it is still considered a bug or it's an incompatibility issue but i'm sure that if it was a normal "bug", QA would obviously see it. Search in YT and you will find stuff like that in almost every game you want. Some people experience bugs just as frequent as people in the world get sick. It doesn't mean the game is crap or that life is fucked up |
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