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Post by izut on Apr 13, 2017 21:23:25 GMT
I have to disagree, ME1 is much better than MEA. Story ? Cannot even compare. All those revelations in MEA about Angarians, Remnants and Meridian are just ok, but without any WOW effect - ME1 was ok, but only until we meet Vigil - that give the whole story such a boost. Other thing is soundtrack - ME1 got AMAZING soundtrack, from the very beginning till the very end. Soundtrack in MEA is weak, and sometimes almost non-existent. Of course MEA looks superior to ME1, also exploring is a way better, but this is it. Saren vs. Archon ? Saren at least got his own reasons, he tried to achieve something, but even he knew when he cross the line and at the end he thanked you... Archon - bad because being bad, wants Meridian even without knowing what it is, and wasting all his resources just to get it. Wow. And those companions... o God, i could trade a half of my team just for one Liara or one Tali. You're forgetting about the ancient race that made Angara. They're far more advanced than Protheans could ever be and they completely vanished - where, when, how, why? Who's the big bad? What's outside Heleus? I didn't like ME1 soundtrack. ME2 was ok, ME3 epic. Archon had his own reasons - he wanted to conquer at least Heleus cluster, but he went rogue even for his own people. Did you play the entire game with all the sidequests and read all datapads you've found, listened to all audio logs? Saren had NO reasons, he was indoctrinated and couldn't think on his own. Archon was free. And Meridian holds secrets. We'll most likely discover them in the next game. It was built by Jardaan and kept hidden for who knows how long. I miss Liara so much, but I fell for Peebee, Cora and Jaal. Lexi may not be Chakwas, but I enjoyed talking to her about memory triggers. What she for sure shares with Chakwas is mother-figure-vibe. Peebee is Liara 2.0, mixed with Miranda and maybe Sera (DAI). She's precious and only shows her real face when you romance her. Cora is a big sis. Extremely loyal and she quickly admits Ryder was the right choice for a Pathfinder. Jaal and Angara are extremely interesting to learn about. Drack is the old man of the team. Father figure for sure. Vetra is another mom. My Sara even called her like that once. Liam is the only one I don't care about. He's Kaidan 2.0 with half of his brain, but more jokes. So the crew overal felt more real and closer than crew from MET because of the amount of interraction. Liara will always be my precious one, but PB is very close to her. There were more choices than Reyes and Angaran AI. And far more important.
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Post by Conquer Your Dreams on Apr 13, 2017 21:53:41 GMT
Exactly - where, when, how, why - after 80 hours in the game, after finishing 98% i know... nothing. Great writing, seriously. 3Ending is way to open, when should give as some directions, like ME1 ending did. How long is main story after cutting all the side quests and terraforming stuff ? 10 hours long ? And 3 or 4 writers been doing this ?! ME1 story was done by 1 guy, and usually it took me 22-23 hours to finish. Yes, i read all the datapads. And i was wandering how it is possible that he's own people didn't take him down. He obey the orders of his superiors... nevermind. And Saren ? He wasn't indoctrinated from the very beginning. Indoctrination takes time, there was a point when it was clearly his decision to "ally" with the Sovereign - he believed that Reapers are too strong and we have no chance against them. I rememeber Angara very well, but that revelation about being made by some ancient race didn't really work for me. Way too close to Asari being directed and guided by Protheans. PeeBee is Liara 2.0 ? No. Not even close. Liara was so much more interesting than PeeBee. Almost every character in Andromeda is so uninteresting ! I choose Cora for my LI - mistake of my life. 70% of my playthrough only pathfinder and asari, asari and pathfinder. She got some better lines at the end, but this is it. I find Reyes much more interesting than anyone from my crew. The only good, memorable moment i got was from Drack, after i sacrified those Krogan scouts to save Salarian pathinder. He was really angry at me, i tried three times, his lines been different but he was still angry. That was well done.
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Post by izut on Apr 13, 2017 22:13:35 GMT
Exactly - where, when, how, why - after 80 hours in the game, after finishing 98% i know... nothing. Great writing, seriously. 3Ending is way to open, when should give as some directions, like ME1 ending did. How long is main story after cutting all the side quests and terraforming stuff ? 10 hours long ? And 3 or 4 writers been doing this ?! ME1 story was done by 1 guy, and usually it took me 22-23 hours to finish. Yes, i read all the datapads. And i was wandering how it is possible that he's own people didn't take him down. He obey the orders of his superiors... nevermind. And Saren ? He wasn't indoctrinated from the very beginning. Indoctrination takes time, there was a point when it was clearly his decision to "ally" with the Sovereign - he believed that Reapers are too strong and we have no chance against them. I rememeber Angara very well, but that revelation about being made by some ancient race didn't really work for me. Way too close to Asari being directed and guided by Protheans. PeeBee is Liara 2.0 ? No. Not even close. Liara was so much more interesting than PeeBee. Almost every character in Andromeda is so uninteresting ! I choose Cora for my LI - mistake of my life. 70% of my playthrough only pathfinder and asari, asari and pathfinder. She got some better lines at the end, but this is it. I find Reyes much more interesting than anyone from my crew. The only good, memorable moment i got was from Drack, after i sacrified those Krogan scouts to save Salarian pathinder. He was really angry at me, i tried three times, his lines been different but he was still angry. That was well done. Not nothing. We know they're far more advanced than any other race in Milky Way, Protheans included. We know they created Meridian, Angara and most likely remnants too. We know they vanished because something freaked them out, the scourge is a part of it. We know pretty much as much as we found out about Protheans in ME1. We've found more about Kett (like we did about Reapers) tho. Saren wasn't indoctrinated way before ME1 even started. The moment we meet him, he's far gone and has Benezia indoctrinated too. I doubt his indoctrinated reasoning was a true one since Benezia joined him to stop him. He wasn't a good guy, he hated humans and Earth. I wouldn't be surprised if he chose to side with Sovereign to get rid of the race he hated so much at first and Sovereig might've changed his "reasoning" to cover his own plan of invading Milky Way. They did't take Archon down because tons of them believed in him. Plus, his army was over 90% exalted Angara who were mindwashed with his educational programs. Actually, you didn't fully explore Angara if you played as Scott. It's Sara who has more exploring dialogue options with them, playing as her you learn more. As I've said before - you won't 100% know Peebee if you don't romance her She's wearing a mask and her true nature is hidden under it. Cora has much more to offer than Pathfinder/Asari. I think you got under the negative vibe and it worked with your mind. Maybe you need a break. Play MET and then come back to MEA? It'd probably be the best thing to do. I didn't watch any reviews, read any articles so I wasn't hit with all the negativity as much as some other people who judged the game without even playing it. I'm glad for it because I could focuse on my own feelings and enjoy the ride. And I did. My heart will always bleed for not being able to continue Shep's journey, but MEA is special too. And they have tons of oppoturnities to make this story even bigger.
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Post by Conquer Your Dreams on Apr 14, 2017 8:10:47 GMT
Yeah, MEA didn't work for me. Too many similarities to the trilogy, too many weak plots, lack of real cliffhangers, not even a single (!) touching, memorable moment which is a heart of ME series and those mostly uninteresting companions. MEA is like a completely different game, made by completely different people, who never played trilogy and never feel that vibe.
About judging: i was defending MEA since day one. There are places, when people hates me for defending MEA. But after finishing main story, i cannot defend it anymore. I was waiting 5 years for this. 5 years to get the story, i would have written better myself in two months. Sorry but from BioWare and especially from Mass Effect brand i'am expecting much more. To be honest with you, i have seen much better storylines in a recent SW:TOR DLC's, which is also made by BioWare.
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Post by izut on Apr 14, 2017 15:28:07 GMT
Yeah, MEA didn't work for me. Too many similarities to the trilogy, too many weak plots, lack of real cliffhangers, not even a single (!) touching, memorable moment which is a heart of ME series and those mostly uninteresting companions. MEA is like a completely different game, made by completely different people, who never played trilogy and never feel that vibe. About judging: i was defending MEA since day one. There are places, when people hates me for defending MEA. But after finishing main story, i cannot defend it anymore. I was waiting 5 years for this. 5 years to get the story, i would have written better myself in two months. Sorry but from BioWare and especially from Mass Effect brand i'am expecting much more. To be honest with you, i have seen much better storylines in a recent SW:TOR DLC's, which is also made by BioWare. Oh? Really? - Ryder finds out Ellen is alive - Kesh has healthy baby eggs which is a hope for a better future for Krogans - Meridian is woken up and creates live in the entire Heleus cluster I'm not saying the game has no issues, because it does and they must work hard to not repeat them next time, but overal it's a good title. Enjoyable, funny, lighter and with growing protag instead of a hero from day 1 which is a nice change. I enjoyed all of the main and side quests, I ditched the majority of tasks (too many of them and they usually aren't marked anywhere on the map). Main story and sidequests, with tiny bit of tasks (those that were marked on the map) it took me over 100h to end the game. It didn't feel that long tbh. But I love exploring so I had to climb all the high spots, look at every tree from different angles (especially those on Elaaden ), visit most all of the places on the map (which end up screwing some quests so I had to reload saves to fix it, oh well, curiosity ) etc. It's for sure better than DAI could ever be IMO. I have more reasons to play this game a couple of times than I did with DAI.
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Post by Conquer Your Dreams on Apr 14, 2017 17:02:36 GMT
Seriously ? Ellen ? I saw her 3 times, 3-4 minutes in total in Alec memories and i should really care about her ? Same like "tough" choice who should i save - some unknown Krogan scouts i never see in my life or some Salarian Pathfinder which i meet for he first time 10 minutes earlier. How this kind of story build-up could how any emotional impact ?? You know what will be a really well build drama in Andromeda ? If at some point i will have to make a choice between saving my sister or my already chosen LI. That will have VERY HEAVY impact. Kaidan or Ash choice was quite heavy, cause i knew them quite well, we spend a lot of time together and we survived more than one hell.
Andromeda lacks all of this. No hard choices, no hard consequences. Just do one quest and go for another. DAI in my opinion in much worse overall, but got much better main story; Corypheus got a nice background from DA2 DLC, i got fantastic teammates like Iron Bull, Dorian or Solas; and DAI got a lot of good moments - starting with "The Dawn Will Come" scene... simply amazing. In Andromeda there is not even one such scene that is so impressive.
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Post by izut on Apr 14, 2017 17:12:51 GMT
I didn't like Kaidan so chosing Ash over him was an easy choice to me. No impacts at all. ME1 was pretty smooth. Even if I chose to kill Wrex once, after a long break of not playing MET, it wasn't an impact because he wasn't my dear loyal friend at that time yet. The only heavy scene to me was Benezia's death because I love Liara.
In MEA I did feel happy for Kesh and Drack over the eggs, I also felt happy and feel hopeful when it comes to twins mom. MEA was supposed to be lighter while MET was darker so no impacts yet. We knew none of our squaddies would die before the premiere.
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Post by Conquer Your Dreams on Apr 14, 2017 17:56:51 GMT
Lighter ? That's absolutely fine. Not every story has to be about saving all life we know. I really like DA2 because of that - much smaller story, focused on Hawke's family. And that story have emotional impact too - Hawke's mother - we knew her from the very beginning of the game. She was with Hawke for 2 chapters, we speak a lot, i learn a lot from her about our family etc, so when she was killed - it was really sad, cause i learn to care about her. In Andromeda the whole set-up for those so called "important moments" is just poorly written. The only person i really care - was my sister. Not my LI, not my teammates, Kesh, Addison or the whole Angarian race - just Sara. You must admit, that all those "care about" things been done much better in previous BioWare games. In EVERY BioWare title before Andromeda. And i really miss those magic moments like "The Dawn Will Come" from DA:I. I remember when i saw it for a first time... that was something. Such a shame i didn't get anything like that in here.
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Post by izut on Apr 14, 2017 19:25:02 GMT
Lighter ? That's absolutely fine. Not every story has to be about saving all life we know. I really like DA2 because of that - much smaller story, focused on Hawke's family. And that story have emotional impact too - Hawke's mother - we knew her from the very beginning of the game. She was with Hawke for 2 chapters, we speak a lot, i learn a lot from her about our family etc, so when she was killed - it was really sad, cause i learn to care about her. In Andromeda the whole set-up for those so called "important moments" is just poorly written. The only person i really care - was my sister. Not my LI, not my teammates, Kesh, Addison or the whole Angarian race - just Sara. You must admit, that all those "care about" things been done much better in previous BioWare games. In EVERY BioWare title before Andromeda. And i really miss those magic moments like "The Dawn Will Come" from DA:I. I remember when i saw it for a first time... that was something. Such a shame i didn't get anything like that in here. Not really. The only thing I cared about in ME1 was Liara. ME2 I just wanted all of my squadmates to survive the suicide mission, but if one of them died it wasn't hella big impact on me. It never happened to Garrus, Tali or Chakwas so... ME3 was the one I really cared about everything and wanted to survive at the very end. Didn't play much of DA1 and DA2, DAI was the best IMO, but... they screwed romances to me - no enjoyable squadmate LI for my femInky sucked all the way and Cassandra was not available to get married at the end. I absolutely hated Solas and didn't care about Cole to the point where I end up not having him in my squad at least twice and the plot was predictable af. BW does scifi better than rpg IMO.
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Post by dreman999 on Apr 14, 2017 23:28:20 GMT
I have to disagree, ME1 is much better than MEA. Story ? Cannot even compare. All those revelations in MEA about Angarians, Remnants and Meridian are just ok, but without any WOW effect - ME1 was ok, but only until we meet Vigil - that give the whole story such a boost. Other thing is soundtrack - ME1 got AMAZING soundtrack, from the very beginning till the very end. Soundtrack in MEA is weak, and sometimes almost non-existent. Of course MEA looks superior to ME1, also exploring is a way better, but this is it. Saren vs. Archon ? Saren at least got his own reasons, he tried to achieve something, but even he knew when he cross the line and at the end he thanked you... Archon - bad because being bad, wants Meridian even without knowing what it is, and wasting all his resources just to get it. Wow. And those companions... o God, i could trade a half of my team just for one Liara or one Tali. Choices matters ? Sure. I let go Reyes... and ? Angarian AI ? yeah, sure. Dude, what? Someone is remembering too much of ME2 then 1. Liara is boring as dirt in ME1 when you don't romance her. These character have more development then the ones in ME1. Wrex is the only stand out in ME1. Now story, Me1 is better thought out so it win there but MEA's main story is better then ME2's story.
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Post by TurianFetish on Apr 16, 2017 15:22:56 GMT
I think that the original trilogy clouds people's judgement. Everyone perceives Andromeda, the companions, plot, emotional moments, through the lense made of it. Our beloved squadmates like Garrus or Liara had three games and many years to gain their legendary status and love of the fans. The plot had three games to flourish and unveil. Let's take the genophage or the geth - were you that emotionally invested in these plots in ME1? I find it highly doubtful, as these subjects were merely introduced in the first game.
People keep forgetting that Andromeda is not Mass Effect 4, but a completely new story that needs time to unwrap and should be given a fair chance. Just be honest people, how many tough decisions ME1 really had? Definitely not many. There's of course Virmire, but apart of that? We have a few choices like saving the Council, Balak's fate, or the Rachni Queen, but even though they are quite important plot-wise, they are not really that emotional. There are some emotional moments like Liara meeting Benezia, or the mission on Ilos, but we also see it differently now because of the next installments. Now I find every second of the original trilogy important, impactful and I am attacked by 'feels' all the time, but it wasn't like this the first time around when I was getting acquainted with this franchise.
I think that considering the fact that MEA is just a beginning, it's much better than ME1 was - especially in the squadmate interaction (and romance) department, but not only.
Don't get me wrong, I love ME1, but I also love Andromeda and I hate the fact that it, for a variety of different reasons (depending on the faction), became a scapegoat when it doesn't deserve it. Just enjoy it the way you did with ME1, just let it flourish. This is just the beginning, some time will (and should) pass before we are faced with decisions and events like curing the genophage.
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Post by dmc1001 on Apr 16, 2017 18:02:39 GMT
I think that the original trilogy clouds people's judgement. Everyone perceives Andromeda, the companions, plot, emotional moments, through the lense made of it. Our beloved squadmates like Garrus or Liara had three games and many years to gain their legendary status and love of the fans. The plot had three games to flourish and unveil. Let's take the genophage or the geth - were you that emotionally invested in these plots in ME1? I find it highly doubtful, as these subjects were merely introduced in the first game. This is why I consider MEA to be the equivalent of ME1. I wasn't nearly as invested in the characters though I was sad I didn't see most of them in ME2. Thus, I was happy to see them return in ME3. I know I don't have the strong feelings for the cast of MEA but would like to see them return regardless. I believe that some DLC and additional games will give me a larger picture and to have more attachment to them as I see the relationships grow closer.
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Post by wright1978 on Apr 17, 2017 18:17:15 GMT
Thought the ending solid. Sibling role was handled well, the visuals were good, there was some reactivity to previous choices. However the main problem for me was while the Kett were interesting and scary, the archon never really set the world alight as an antagonist. When comparing to Saren or Harbinger or Sovereign he comes up well short. I am very interested and crossing my fingers that we'll get to see a sequel where the empire of the Kett comes into greater focus with perhaps a better developed antagonist.
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Post by Conquer Your Dreams on Apr 18, 2017 11:31:59 GMT
How Archon could ever become a "better developed antagonist", if he have all together no more than 10 minutes screen time ? Similar situation like with Saren, but in his case we got a lot of his background from Anderson and other people during the game, so we knew a lot about him before we meet in person. About Archon we know almost next to none, some guy obsessed with Remnant tech, that's it. Bad writing, as usual.
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Post by rustnbones on Apr 19, 2017 17:20:46 GMT
Hello everybody. I have one simple question that seems to be impossible to find the answer. So I hope you can help me. Here it goes.
Does a disgraced (exposed secret) Sarissa that is kept as Pathfinder help in the last mission in order to keep Dunn alive?
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Post by izut on Apr 19, 2017 18:34:37 GMT
Hello everybody. I have one simple question that seems to be impossible to find the answer. So I hope you can help me. Here it goes. Does a disgraced (exposed secret) Sarissa that is kept as Pathfinder help in the last mission in order to keep Dunn alive? I kind of would like to know that too. I agree with what she did - chosing the entire ark of sleepers over 1 person, even if that person is a pathfinder. But lying to people of how she died... was wrong so I'd like her to pay the consequences, but on the other hand, if we keep it, she comes to help us and pretty much saves Dunn's ass. Next in line for becoming a pathfinder isn't nearly as strong as she is so I'd like to know if she's the key or not too.
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Post by melbella on Apr 19, 2017 19:34:01 GMT
Hello everybody. I have one simple question that seems to be impossible to find the answer. So I hope you can help me. Here it goes. Does a disgraced (exposed secret) Sarissa that is kept as Pathfinder help in the last mission in order to keep Dunn alive? Yep, she's there.
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Post by dreman999 on Apr 19, 2017 19:53:50 GMT
I have to disagree, ME1 is much better than MEA. Story ? Cannot even compare. All those revelations in MEA about Angarians, Remnants and Meridian are just ok, but without any WOW effect - ME1 was ok, but only until we meet Vigil - that give the whole story such a boost. Other thing is soundtrack - ME1 got AMAZING soundtrack, from the very beginning till the very end. Soundtrack in MEA is weak, and sometimes almost non-existent. Of course MEA looks superior to ME1, also exploring is a way better, but this is it. Saren vs. Archon ? Saren at least got his own reasons, he tried to achieve something, but even he knew when he cross the line and at the end he thanked you... Archon - bad because being bad, wants Meridian even without knowing what it is, and wasting all his resources just to get it. Wow. And those companions... o God, i could trade a half of my team just for one Liara or one Tali. Choices matters ? Sure. I let go Reyes... and ? Angarian AI ? yeah, sure. Ok. ME1 was great..but it was not that great. it's basically a man verses machine plot/ hunt down the villian plot. It's not that original in concept. What made ME1 story great was not the concept but the development of the story and it's twist. ME1 brings you to points you don't expect that surprises and floors you. The thing is MEA does the same thing. The only ME game that does not is ME2. MEA does have alot of surprising events, more so to the end of the game. It has twist and it does surprise. Nothing that straight up floors your though. You don't have the sovereign meeting equivalent , or nothing at the level of the Thorin....But that's not really the story this game is going for. It's about colonization and exploration. It would not have anything to that level of an established universe with roots like ME does. It's a game about making those roots. What's would be amazing about it's story is the choices you make, how you make them, and what you uncover as you explore. What's here few are missed in story. The only issue with the story are what the Kett are, which are organic borg 2.0 But the rest of the story gets better. Why? I leave alot of want of interge. At first with the remnent they seem face less but once you find out about what they are and that they created a race and how much the story hinted at this is astounding and new to ME ingenral. That fact that what you found before are just gardening tool and a bigger story is in hand with these beings. They arn't the protheans 2.0 like many felt at the start of the game. And the choice, like on Ka And let's not bring up character here. You clearly have rose colored glasses. ME1's crew was no were near as interesting as you believed it to be. I know, i played the game over 9 times. Garrus and Tali are only interesting but don't have much development. Liara is only interesting if romance, if not she is a very boring fan girl of Shep, Ashley was highly dislikes and Kiaden was boring. Only one character was the stand out and that was Wrex, fallowed by Joker. Me2 and 3 cast are spectacular.. but only because they are more colorful and they had development for 2 -3 games. We can atleast say MEA cast is better then ME1. With clear proof. The mea crew develops much deep then the ME! crew hands down,
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Post by izut on Apr 19, 2017 20:01:04 GMT
Hello everybody. I have one simple question that seems to be impossible to find the answer. So I hope you can help me. Here it goes. Does a disgraced (exposed secret) Sarissa that is kept as Pathfinder help in the last mission in order to keep Dunn alive? Yep, she's there. But is she the key? Will Dunn die if we tell the others about Sarissa's lies?
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Post by melbella on Apr 20, 2017 0:13:10 GMT
Yep, she's there. But is she the key? Will Dunn die if we tell the others about Sarissa's lies?
No. Dunn only dies if you don't have 3 other Pathfinders at the final battle. It doesn't matter which ones or how you resolve their issues. So, Raeka/Hayjer + Sarissa/Vederia(?) + Avitus. There's no alternate for Avitus so you have to convince him to take the job.
My last game I had Hayjer, Sarissa (told the asari the truth), and Avitus. Dunn survived.
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Post by izut on Apr 20, 2017 0:16:06 GMT
But is she the key? Will Dunn die if we tell the others about Sarissa's lies?
No. Dunn only dies if you don't have 3 other Pathfinders at the final battle. It doesn't matter which ones or how you resolve their issues. So, Raeka/Hayjer + Sarissa/Vederia(?) + Avitus. There's no alternate for Avitus so you have to convince him to take the job.
My last game I had Hayjer, Sarissa (told the asari the truth), and Avitus. Dunn survived.
Thanks! How did you kept Sarissa if you told the asari the truth though?
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Post by melbella on Apr 20, 2017 0:18:49 GMT
No. Dunn only dies if you don't have 3 other Pathfinders at the final battle. It doesn't matter which ones or how you resolve their issues. So, Raeka/Hayjer + Sarissa/Vederia(?) + Avitus. There's no alternate for Avitus so you have to convince him to take the job.
My last game I had Hayjer, Sarissa (told the asari the truth), and Avitus. Dunn survived.
Thanks! How did you kept Sarissa if you told the asari the truth though?
After the reveal, Ryder has the option to agree with the asari captain and replace Sarissa, or recommend keeping her as Pathfinder. Apparently Pathfinder opinion outranks Captain opinion.
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Post by izut on Apr 20, 2017 0:44:34 GMT
Thanks! How did you kept Sarissa if you told the asari the truth though?
After the reveal, Ryder has the option to agree with the asari captain and replace Sarissa, or recommend keeping her as Pathfinder. Apparently Pathfinder opinion outranks Captain opinion.
Oh? That's good to know! I chose to hide her lies because I was afraid I'd lose her as a Pathfinder and I really can't see her second to become one - she's a bigger rookie than Ryder.
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Post by Conquer Your Dreams on Apr 20, 2017 7:19:39 GMT
I have to disagree, ME1 is much better than MEA. Story ? Cannot even compare. All those revelations in MEA about Angarians, Remnants and Meridian are just ok, but without any WOW effect - ME1 was ok, but only until we meet Vigil - that give the whole story such a boost. Other thing is soundtrack - ME1 got AMAZING soundtrack, from the very beginning till the very end. Soundtrack in MEA is weak, and sometimes almost non-existent. Of course MEA looks superior to ME1, also exploring is a way better, but this is it. Saren vs. Archon ? Saren at least got his own reasons, he tried to achieve something, but even he knew when he cross the line and at the end he thanked you... Archon - bad because being bad, wants Meridian even without knowing what it is, and wasting all his resources just to get it. Wow. And those companions... o God, i could trade a half of my team just for one Liara or one Tali. Choices matters ? Sure. I let go Reyes... and ? Angarian AI ? yeah, sure. Ok. ME1 was great..but it was not that great. it's basically a man verses machine plot/ hunt down the villian plot. It's not that original in concept. What made ME1 story great was not the concept but the development of the story and it's twist. ME1 brings you to points you don't expect that surprises and floors you. The thing is MEA does the same thing. The only ME game that does not is ME2. MEA does have alot of surprising events, more so to the end of the game. It has twist and it does surprise. Nothing that straight up floors your though. You don't have the sovereign meeting equivalent , or nothing at the level of the Thorin....But that's not really the story this game is going for. It's about colonization and exploration. It would not have anything to that level of an established universe with roots like ME does. It's a game about making those roots. What's would be amazing about it's story is the choices you make, how you make them, and what you uncover as you explore. What's here few are missed in story. The only issue with the story are what the Kett are, which are organic borg 2.0 But the rest of the story gets better. Why? I leave alot of want of interge. At first with the remnent they seem face less but once you find out about what they are and that they created a race and how much the story hinted at this is astounding and new to ME ingenral. That fact that what you found before are just gardening tool and a bigger story is in hand with these beings. They arn't the protheans 2.0 like many felt at the start of the game. And the choice, like on Ka And let's not bring up character here. You clearly have rose colored glasses. ME1's crew was no were near as interesting as you believed it to be. I know, i played the game over 9 times. Garrus and Tali are only interesting but don't have much development. Liara is only interesting if romance, if not she is a very boring fan girl of Shep, Ashley was highly dislikes and Kiaden was boring. Only one character was the stand out and that was Wrex, fallowed by Joker. Me2 and 3 cast are spectacular.. but only because they are more colorful and they had development for 2 -3 games. We can atleast say MEA cast is better then ME1. With clear proof. The mea crew develops much deep then the ME! crew hands down,
MEA "revelations" probably are supposed to be amazing, shocking, very interesting. They are not. I don't know it's a bad writing or those scenes are missing something, but when for example they reveal that BIG thing about Angarians I was like "ok". That's it. 5 minutes later I wasn't even very interested to discuss it with anyone.
I loved those moments from other BW games, even DA:I makes me chill so many times, but Andromeda ? Nope. Hard to explain. When I finished the game I just looked on my screen and I asked myself "that's all" ? I was shocked when I found out that 4 or 5 people been writing this, whole main story is longer than 10 hours. Maybe they should hire someone from Netflix ? So many great tv series, so well written.
With crew is the same thing. I agree, development is SO MUCH BETTER comparing to ME1, but it's not even close to ME2. For example Miranda from the VERY FIRST MOMENT was so interesting, VA truly amazing, and her character go so well with the story. How to compare her to Cora for example ? 70% of the game she is on asari and not being pathfiner, after 5-6 conversations I GOT ENOUGH OF HER. Maybe once or twice she said something nice about flowers, about herself. But this is it. The only companions who got something to say are Jaal, Drack and Vetra. PeeBee if planning to romance her. Such a shame that Vetra romance is black screen, cause she is the most interesting female in my crew.
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Post by izut on Apr 20, 2017 10:10:24 GMT
^ME2 was worse than ME1 when it comes to continuity, drama and twists. They failed on so many levels, romances being the most important one since they forced us apart from who we romanced in ME1 for the entire game. The suicide mission? Just in the name, it's survivable if we do all LMs, chose the right companions and fully upgrad Normandy. ME3 is the best part so far, but MEA is better than ME1 and ME2 IMO.
I think you didn't talk with Cora nearly enough as you should because she mentiones Asari like 5-6 times and then stops. Not to mentions, she pretty quickly says Alec made the right decision. She's completely fine with keeping Ryder in one piece, which isn't an easy job.
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