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Post by melbella on Oct 5, 2019 17:58:09 GMT
Outside at last, "fresh" air :Q Kadara's air is fine. Just don't drink (or step in) the water.
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Oct 5, 2019 18:03:27 GMT
Outside at last, "fresh" air :Q Kadara's air is fine. Just don't drink (or step in) the water. I remember it smelling like rotten eggs?
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Outside at last, "fresh" air :Q Kadara's air is fine. Just don't drink (or step in) the water. Only if you don't mind the sulphurous, rotten egg smell. Jaal certainly complaints about it. I believe PeeBee complains as well. I imagine it's like walking around on The Big Island when the Kilueaua is particularly active.
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Post by melbella on Oct 5, 2019 20:28:14 GMT
Jaal certainly complaints about it Jaal complains about everything so I don't pay much attention to what he likes or doesn't. Still, even if the air stinks, at least breathing it won't kill you. Unlike drinking the water.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2019 20:47:01 GMT
Jaal certainly complaints about it Jaal complains about everything so I don't pay much attention to what he likes or doesn't. Still, even if the air stinks, at least breathing it won't kill you. Unlike drinking the water. Well, breathing air with sulphur dioxide in it does irritate the airways and can seriously affect people with asthma, so I wouldn't call it "fine.". Hydrogen sulfide, another gas with a rotten egg smell, that is common in some of the natural gas wells in Alberta is actually quite lethal; so I admit to being more leery of it than some might be though.
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dazk , the Dhan you asked about is pretty basic: Burst Fire + Beam Emitter + Bioconverter + Kinetic Coils It retains its insane DPS, spreading across 3-shot bursts. Since the Dhan has a four shot capacity (at least as I recall my Ryder being specced), the firing rhythm can be a bit uneven. You fire three shots, then the next sequence has a short reloading hiccup, followed by more killing doods. It's a curious setup to try if only to experience how different the gun becomes. It's very quiet and fires much more quickly. The DPS remains the same. Ah, I thought the Burst Fire Aug. would be overrriden by the Beam Emitter. Burst fire is mostly meant to increase ROF, right? I worded that badly. I used Plasma charge on a weapon that is full-auto by default, besides having "infinite" ammo (the Equalizer). I wanted plasma charge apocalypse rain, but alas, the charge-up mechanic blocks autofire, so I used the most awesome asari hair dryer Disciple. But as plasma charge penalizes damage and ammo on ShGs, I went for the Talon, as the games still regards it as a pistol.
I'm not sure yet if my biotic Ryder will head into the Vanguard direction, but I'm very fond of having viable fast-fire alternatives to the Piranha, as I cannot stand its looks. Too much real world-style. I guess there is no real way to replicate the Geth Shotgun, except adding seeking plasma to a Dhan? Most others just fire too many pellets. Would you recommend using a Scattershot? Its damage appaers to be really low even for the lower level of difficulty that I usually stick to. It appears though, that with the right mods, the Scattershot starts to reload/cool down pretty quickly, as my main trouble with Vanguard gameplay is sometimes death by reloading. Just tried that but with two bursts until reload, I'll need to add some bio converter shenanigans, then it could be good workaround for me on the SWP. I like its looks, but the ammo/ROF balance is ... ugh. I know it is supposed to emulate a revolver, but does anybody know a mod that gives the SW a more appropriate magazine size, like 12? Back in ME2, I developed a healthy aversion to the "Butcher" for its laughably low spare ammo, but my current Ryder found one (plus a bunch of pistol scope and a penetration mod) early, and grew to use it instead of the heavy-ass early game sniper rifles. Once I get my hands on a magazine mod that adds 50% or more spare ammo, I probably make one 4 x Trishot Carnifex. One of the first weapons I made in this game was a Beam Emitter Revenant, for to its high ammo capacity. Very odd having an MG firing a laser beam, but it did well against some architect legs. The Ghost's look fits better with laser beams in my view, and it gets over the Ghost's odd behaviour - projectile spread appears to decrease on sustained firing, but it still has substantial muzzle climb, at least on lower tiers/without heavy stock mods. Strange. Also found the Ghost useful for mounting a vintage heat sink without loosing too much ammo capacity. Useful for spamming sticky grenades/seeking plasma, while not being restricted to Remnant weapons only, i.e. Equalizer. I like to use kett weapons, simply because of looks, except the Rozerad/Soned, as their Mini-gun style spin-up mechanics freak me out. I want to fire on demand! On a final note... is there a way to craft one of the minigun-style weapons in a way to get rid off the spin-up? And a mod that either switches Vetra's Cyclone for something else/hack it so it does not need to spin up? Kadara's air is fine. Just don't drink (or step in) the water. Only if you don't mind the sulphurous, rotten egg smell. Jaal certainly complaints about it. I believe PeeBee complains as well. I imagine it's like walking around on The Big Island when the Kilueaua is particularly active. Sulphur smells better than Sloane & Co. It also makes nicer fires. (Does anybody else want to drown both gangs in on of those pools as soon as arriving on Kadara? )
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Only if you don't mind the sulphurous, rotten egg smell. Jaal certainly complaints about it. I believe PeeBee complains as well. I imagine it's like walking around on The Big Island when the Kilueaua is particularly active. Sulphur smells better than Sloane & Co. It also makes nicer fires. (Does anybody else want to drown both gangs in on of those pools as soon as arriving on Kadara? ) I would have liked the option to end both Reyes and Sloane during their duel and then turning the port over to the Angara with permission to place the settlement coming from them.
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Post by dazk on Oct 5, 2019 23:16:07 GMT
Sulphur smells better than Sloane & Co. It also makes nicer fires. (Does anybody else want to drown both gangs in on of those pools as soon as arriving on Kadara? ) I would have liked the option to end both Reyes and Sloane during their duel and then turning the port over to the Angara with permission to place the settlement coming from them. Yes that would have been a far better solution all round!!!!!
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Post by dazk on Oct 5, 2019 23:31:02 GMT
So got to play some more MEA yesterday, yippee!!!! Lots of running round on Voeld, stopping at a squillion Kett and Remnant sites and got most of the random quests to reveal themselves except the only one I really want to reveal itself which is Subjugation for the extra Data Core. Did Realis's mission, saved Tej from his glory seeking, activated two monoliths, found a meteorite, helped a sniper, retrieved a map from some thieves and sent that guy to the resistance, filled medical caches and had the stupid hidden wraith issue, refused to pick up the whale quest and took down the Kett command centre. Have had Liam and Jaal with me for a long time now, all of Havarl and Voeld so far and have gotten lots of banter I had missed as I rarely use Liam as a squadmate and it has been good to hear the new banter. I swapped Liam out for Cora to do the ice cave and The Periphona mission but will swap Cora for PeeBee to do her personal mission on Voeld. Are there any consequences for dropping Jaal from the squad on Voeld once you have recued the Moshae, done the Command Centre and recruited the two resistance recruits (Sniper and Smuggler) as maybe I'll swap him out instead of Cora? Or actually sub Vetra in for Jaal, not sure I have ever taken her on Voeld. Voeld can be really stunning, pic's don't do it justice: Another Scott Selfie that Cora photo bombed: Killed the AI, was going to give it to the Angara this time but felt sorry for the stupid Angaran that tried to remove it. I have always had an audio glitch with the conversation between Jaal, SAM and Cora re AI but for the first time ever I could hear SAM's side of the conversation whereas before I couldn't:
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Oct 6, 2019 9:24:55 GMT
Found Asari ark! They have nice lighting, reminds me of.. well Asari Spooky.. Had to take a shot from this, as it looks a lot like something out from the Citadel (ME1) - a connecting corridor. Meeting them at last Ramming speed with Cora Reminded me about Citadel areas again but this was super spooky...
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Post by dazk on Oct 7, 2019 0:08:33 GMT
Found Asari ark! I like the Asari ark mission, the story and the combat and the FEEL and yeah the shrine to the Matriach was eerie. Did you find Sarissa's locker that you can scan? You can scan the banners on the ark a well:
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Found some time to play some Andromeda... I was so close... Curse you Old Skinner! We shall fight again on the 'morrow.
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Oct 7, 2019 6:35:19 GMT
I like the Asari ark mission, the story and the combat and the FEEL and yeah the shrine to the Matriach was eerie. Did you find Sarissa's locker that you can scan? You can scan the banners on the ark a well: YYeah I found them good stuff!
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Sulphur smells better than Sloane & Co. It also makes nicer fires. (Does anybody else want to drown both gangs in on of those pools as soon as arriving on Kadara? ) I would have liked the option to end both Reyes and Sloane during their duel and then turning the port over to the Angara with permission to place the settlement coming from them. That would probably only lead to chaos and Kett takeover.
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I would have liked the option to end both Reyes and Sloane during their duel and then turning the port over to the Angara with permission to place the settlement coming from them. That would probably only lead to chaos and Kett takeover. If you side with the Collective, however, Reyes places Keema Dorghan in the "throne" lending the impression that the Angara have resumed control of the port anyways. An Initiative outpost is also established. The only diffference would be that Reyes would also be dead alongside Sloane. Since no one but a very few people know he is the charlatan, Ryder could even assume that role if necessary.
The key to establishing stability would be the same... getting the abuses of the Angaran population to stop, along with the abuses that Sloane heaped onto her own people (protection fees, etc.) to stop. Since the Collective exists to fight Sloane, they would also most likely just disband with the more docile ones willingly rejoining with the Initiative leaving the rest to fracture into smaller "gangs" which could be brought into line by an Initiative militia.
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Post by correctamundo on Oct 7, 2019 17:04:05 GMT
That would probably only lead to chaos and Kett takeover. If you side with the Collective, however, Reyes places Keema Dorghan in the "throne" lending the impression that the Angara have resumed control of the port anyways. An Initiative outpost is also established. The only diffference would be that Reyes would also be dead alongside Sloane. Since no one but a very few people know he is the charlatan, Ryder could even assume that role if necessary.
The key to establishing stability would be the same... getting the abuses of the Angaran population to stop, along with the abuses that Sloane heaped onto her own people (protection fees, etc.) to stop. Since the Collective exists to fight Sloane, they would also most likely just disband with the more docile ones willingly rejoining with the Initiative leaving the rest to fracture into smaller "gangs" which could be brought into line by an Initiative militia. No without Reyes no collective. The collective is the guarantee for security.
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If you side with the Collective, however, Reyes places Keema Dorghan in the "throne" lending the impression that the Angara have resumed control of the port anyways. An Initiative outpost is also established. The only diffference would be that Reyes would also be dead alongside Sloane. Since no one but a very few people know he is the charlatan, Ryder could even assume that role if necessary.
The key to establishing stability would be the same... getting the abuses of the Angaran population to stop, along with the abuses that Sloane heaped onto her own people (protection fees, etc.) to stop. Since the Collective exists to fight Sloane, they would also most likely just disband with the more docile ones willingly rejoining with the Initiative leaving the rest to fracture into smaller "gangs" which could be brought into line by an Initiative militia. No without Reyes no collective. The collective is the guarantee for security. Don't think so. Again, most of the Collective doesn't know who the Charlatan is. Reyes can be replaced without a vast majority even knowing that such a transition has occurred.
Placing the Anggara in actual power on the planet also brings in the Resistance as a security force... and the Resistance are far more capable of fighting kett than the Collective.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Oct 7, 2019 17:14:23 GMT
Sloane > Reyes
Also why would the Resistance help Kadara? They see the angara there as traitors and criminals.
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Sloane > Reyes Also why would the Resistance help Kadara? They see the angara there as traitors and criminals. They can learn from the Initiative. A healing between the Initiative and the exiles can also create a healing among the Angara. With it's water issues resolved and the "rotten eggs" smell gone, it becomes a mroe desireable planet on which to live... attracting more Angarans who are not considered traitors and cirminals... like cleaning up a "slum" neighborhood here on earth. It wouldn't happen immediately, but it can happen. The key, as I said, is getting the abuses of the population to stop.
Sloane will ultimately lose control over her Outcasts. The signs of that are already there and she says it herself... "I can't trust my own people..." She was only able to assume control over Kadara Port because she took the Kett by surprise. Kaetus has to enlist the Pathfinder's help to clear out a small group of them... lest the populace gets wind that Sloane isn't as much in control of that situation as is believed. Kadara under Sloane is on a certain slippery slope to chaos. The Collective aren't a whole lot better because Reyes allows them to resort to similar acts of violence. Killing both of them at least affords an opportunity to install some "good" leadership. If you don't like putting an Angaran into power, then pick someone like Bradley... a popular Initiative figure believed to at least been fair to the exiles.
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Sloane > Reyes Also why would the Resistance help Kadara? They see the angara there as traitors and criminals. They can learn from the Initiative. A healing between the Initiative and the exiles can also create a healing among the Angara. With it's water issues resolved and the "rotten eggs" smell gone, it becomes a mroe desireable planet on which to live... attracting more Angarans who are not considered traitors and cirminals... like cleaning up a "slum" neighborhood here on earth. It wouldn't happen immediately, but it can happen. The key, as I said, is getting the abuses of the population to stop.
Sloane will ultimately lose control over her Outcasts. The signs of that are already there and she says it herself... "I can't trust my own people..." She was only able to assume control over Kadara Port because she took the Kett by surprise. Kaetus has to enlist the Pathfinder's help to clear out a small group of them... lest the populace gets wind that Sloane isn't as much in control of that situation as is believed. Kadara under Sloane is on a certain slippery slope to chaos. The Collective aren't a whole lot better because Reyes allows them to resort to similar acts of violence. Killing both of them at least affords an opportunity to install some "good" leadership. If you don't like putting an Angaran into power, then pick someone like Bradley... a popular Initiative figure believed to at least been fair to the exiles.
To be honest, why should the angara on Kadara forgive the ones on Aya and the other colonies? They left them at the mercy of the Kett. They really have nothing to learn, the Resistance does. But the Resistance shows no inclination too since as I said they see Kadara as traitors. If anything other angara moving in will just create more tensions. The reason Sloane's power was slipping was because Reyes was undermining it from the shadows at every turn. He knew doing that would worsen the situation, giving him an advantage. And sorry, but the Collective are worse than the Outcasts. The Outcasts at least have lines they won't cross, where with the Collective anything goes. Plus, as you mentioned with Kadara being cleaned up by the Vault, a lot of the things Sloane needed to do become redundant and powerless. And no, I've met the Angara head that would take over and she is just as bad as those two.
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They can learn from the Initiative. A healing between the Initiative and the exiles can also create a healing among the Angara. With it's water issues resolved and the "rotten eggs" smell gone, it becomes a mroe desireable planet on which to live... attracting more Angarans who are not considered traitors and cirminals... like cleaning up a "slum" neighborhood here on earth. It wouldn't happen immediately, but it can happen. The key, as I said, is getting the abuses of the population to stop.
Sloane will ultimately lose control over her Outcasts. The signs of that are already there and she says it herself... "I can't trust my own people..." She was only able to assume control over Kadara Port because she took the Kett by surprise. Kaetus has to enlist the Pathfinder's help to clear out a small group of them... lest the populace gets wind that Sloane isn't as much in control of that situation as is believed. Kadara under Sloane is on a certain slippery slope to chaos. The Collective aren't a whole lot better because Reyes allows them to resort to similar acts of violence. Killing both of them at least affords an opportunity to install some "good" leadership. If you don't like putting an Angaran into power, then pick someone like Bradley... a popular Initiative figure believed to at least been fair to the exiles.
To be honest, why should the angara on Kadara forgive the ones on Aya and the other colonies? They left them at the mercy of the Kett. They really have nothing to learn, the Resistance does. But the Resistance shows no inclination too since as I said they see Kadara as traitors. If anything other angara moving in will just create more tensions. The reason Sloane's power was slipping was because Reyes was undermining it from the shadows at every turn. He knew doing that would worsen the situation, giving him an advantage. And sorry, but the Collective are worse than the Outcasts. The Outcasts at least have lines they won't cross, where with the Collective anything goes. Plus, as you mentioned with Kadara being cleaned up by the Vault, a lot of the things Sloane needed to do become redundant and powerless. And no, I've met the Angara head that would take over and she is just as bad as those two. Name one thing that Reyes does that actually undermines Sloane. He asks Ryder to investigate a murder by the Roekaar, but how does that undermine Sloane in any way. So what else is there. The Collective take Outcast agents and beat them up for information, but how does that undermine Sloane with the general population? I really can't think of a single quest in game that demonstrates that Reyes is undermining Sloane's position other than by supplying food for the hungry in the slums and financing a free clinic.
Sloane's protection fees and her brutality in collecting them is what was undermining her at every turn... and she's bringing that on herself. One of the first things you see are a group of Outcast beating up on an Angara in the middle of the street for not paying protection fees. If you talked with the "little people," it's the protection fees they hated. Even her own people had issues with how they were being required to enforce them... like the one guy who feels guilty for sending an innocent person out to the badlands.
Furthermore, if Evfra and the Resistance has actually written Kadara off as much as you say... why did they have Reyes working for them even before the thing with Vehn Terev came up?
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Oct 7, 2019 21:24:25 GMT
To be honest, why should the angara on Kadara forgive the ones on Aya and the other colonies? They left them at the mercy of the Kett. They really have nothing to learn, the Resistance does. But the Resistance shows no inclination too since as I said they see Kadara as traitors. If anything other angara moving in will just create more tensions. The reason Sloane's power was slipping was because Reyes was undermining it from the shadows at every turn. He knew doing that would worsen the situation, giving him an advantage. And sorry, but the Collective are worse than the Outcasts. The Outcasts at least have lines they won't cross, where with the Collective anything goes. Plus, as you mentioned with Kadara being cleaned up by the Vault, a lot of the things Sloane needed to do become redundant and powerless. And no, I've met the Angara head that would take over and she is just as bad as those two. Name one thing that Reyes does that actually undermines Sloane. He asks Ryder to investigate a murder by the Roekaar, but how does that undermine Sloane in any way. So what else is there. The Collective take Outcast agents and beat them up for information, but how does that undermine Sloane with the general population? I really can't think of a single quest in game that demonstrates that Reyes is undermining Sloane's position other than by supplying food for the hungry in the slums and financing a free clinic.
Sloane's protection fees and her brutality in collecting them is what was undermining her at every turn... and she's bringing that on herself. One of the first things you see are a group of Outcast beating up on an Angara in the middle of the street for not paying protection fees. If you talked with the "little people," it's the protection fees they hated. Even her own people had issues with how they were being required to enforce them... like the one guy who feels guilty for sending an innocent person out to the badlands.
Furthermore, if Evfra and the Resistance has actually written Kadara off as much as you say... why did they have Reyes working for them even before the thing with Vehn Terev came up?
You're kidding right? I mean he literally states this in the scene where he is revealed to be the Charlatan. "Death by a thousand cuts" as he put it. Oh, and they "beat them up for information"? That's a nice way to dress up torture and mutilate. As for the protection fees, three things: 1. Welcome to taxes. 2. As I said, with the Vault on those fees become redundant because the Badlands suddenly aren't as bad. 3. The Collective also takes from the general populace. Also the Nexus they are supposedly allies with, except they do it from just straight up theft rather than protection fees. With Evfra using Reyes, that's easy. He's keeping an eye on an unknown force in case they become his enemies too.
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Post by dazk on Oct 7, 2019 21:38:41 GMT
Late to the discussion but.... I think taking out both Sloane and Reyes could work.
As pointed out by UpUp, Sloane is her won worst enemy in how she treats the people of Kadara. Reyes is a master co-ordinator and none of his Lieutenants that you meet are his equal plus Ryder knows a few of them and I think it'd be unlikely that any of them could or would step up.
Keema seems to be ready to assume control of Kadara already and I am pretty sure Evfra would be keen enough to take back Kadara to commit resistance fighters to keep control of it. Ryder could negotiate that the Initiative also provide security and perhaps even re-purpose The Outcasts and or The Collective to do it in conjunction with the Resistance. It could have been a first step in cooperation in managing a settlement between the Angara and The Initiative which would have been quite meaningful in terms of the game I think.
Maybe it wouldn't be possible but I would have liked to have it as an option rather than being rail-roaded into letting Sloane be assassinated and Reyes taking control or saving Sloane and Reyes putting his plot armour on and running away.
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Post by themikefest on Oct 7, 2019 21:46:03 GMT
Ah yes, Sloane and Reyes. I found both to be dirtbags. I rather kill Reyes to side with Zia, then support her to be in charge of Kadara.
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