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Post by civviewarrior20 on Mar 22, 2017 12:12:50 GMT
When you have no level X weapons: Go to Bronze. Buy Two basic packs per extraction. You get two bronze cards per 1000 credits. Repeat until you have one or two level X weapons you can take to Silver and not be dead weight. When you have at least one level X weapon and at least one level 10 character (preferably with level X weapon) Go to Silver. If you get annihilated, or you find yourself feeling like a toddler that is holding on to an adult's leg and getting dragged around, go back to Bronze and git gud/get more basic packs until you get better common weapons. If you extract, and you actually contribute, use the credits you earn in Silver to buy basic packs until you only have a few commons left to max. Then move on to Advanced packs There are too many Black Widow I's in Silver, not enough Viper X's. I was in one Silver lobby with us all using common level X weapons. It was a cakewalk. I've been in many Silver lobbies with a ton of people toting level 1 UR's, they made me wish I spent this money on adult websites instead. Its getting tiresome. Get some half-decent firepower before going to Silver, please! You have been blessed with RNG. Nearly 1 million credits and no new weapons, avenger is level 4 if it matters (lol) Please tell me you are clearing your basic packs first....
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Post by Pounce de León on Mar 22, 2017 12:15:18 GMT
Spending an hour killing a basic mook with your Avenger I in Silver is not being a helpful and contributing member of the team. That's what you are for. Now put your back into getting the recruits to shape. Lazy slob.
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Post by zombiehead on Mar 22, 2017 12:15:33 GMT
You have been blessed with RNG. Nearly 1 million credits and no new weapons, avenger is level 4 if it matters (lol) Please tell me you are clearing your basic packs first.... Yeah offcourse, its just a matter of getting level 2+ boosters and upgrading the weapons.
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Post by thelostturian on Mar 22, 2017 12:16:14 GMT
Even a low level player can contribute- e.g. help with objectives, detonate powers and revive teammates when he/she can. Do you really expect unexperienced players to do just that?
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Post by Pounce de León on Mar 22, 2017 12:18:04 GMT
Even a low level player can contribute- e.g. help with objectives, detonate powers and revive teammates when he/she can. Do you really expect unexperienced players to do just that? Stop whining and be a good example to the new guy.
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Post by TormDK on Mar 22, 2017 12:19:14 GMT
We have level 1's with 0 APEX rating join our Gold match yesterday, or rather attempt....
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Post by Ghostknife72 on Mar 22, 2017 12:22:01 GMT
Even a low level player can contribute- e.g. help with objectives, detonate powers and revive teammates when he/she can. Do you really expect unexperienced players to do just that? I think that is the issue, tbh. From my experience thus far, they do not. If they have no experience, I see them shooting endless enemies on objective waves and not doing the objectives. Even simple stuff (well to us at least) like using a rocket to clear out a room FILLED with enemies and the device is in there. Instead they run in, get killed immediately, don't gel or anything and just sit out the rest of the wave.
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Post by Ghostknife72 on Mar 22, 2017 12:22:39 GMT
We have level 1's with 0 APEX rating join our Gold match yesterday, or rather attempt.... I'm sure that would have went swimmingly.
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Post by TormDK on Mar 22, 2017 12:23:52 GMT
We have level 1's with 0 APEX rating join our Gold match yesterday, or rather attempt.... I'm sure that would have went swimmingly. It did give us a laugh, but otherwise yeah - they were kicked faster than they could have typed "dragplx" if the game had text chat.
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Post by Ghostknife72 on Mar 22, 2017 12:26:11 GMT
I'm sure that would have went swimmingly. It did give us a laugh, but otherwise yeah - they were kicked faster than they could have typed "dragplx" if the game had text chat. Smart move. I think venturing into Gold, at this point in time, without teammates you know (i.e. will help you and vice versa) and without decent gear is just asking for a quick wipe.
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Post by Cirvante on Mar 22, 2017 12:27:00 GMT
The only reason to max common weapons and characters is to get at those sweet weapon mods.
You can totally play gold with low lvl rares and URs on kits around lvl 10.
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Post by Alfonsedode on Mar 22, 2017 12:29:48 GMT
if everything goes well, this should be necroed in 3 years : Lol silver
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Post by leafspring on Mar 22, 2017 12:39:28 GMT
There are too many Black Widow I's in Silver, not enough Viper X's. DPS Black Widow I - about 50k. DPS Viper X - about 40k.
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Post by jmac1424 on Mar 22, 2017 12:41:54 GMT
I cant wait for a couple years to pass and everyone is crushing gold and asking for platinum so I can come back here and necro this thread. Hahahahahahaha
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Post by civviewarrior20 on Mar 22, 2017 12:42:51 GMT
There are too many Black Widow I's in Silver, not enough Viper X's. DPS Black Widow I - about 50k. DPS Viper X - about 40k. Although its not as simple as a straight DPS comparison...
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Post by leafspring on Mar 22, 2017 12:49:37 GMT
DPS Black Widow I - about 50k. DPS Viper X - about 40k. Although its not as simple as a straight DPS comparison... Certainly not in general. In this case, though, they're similar enough (clip size, max ammo) for it to be a reasonable comparison I'd say. Haven't used either, though (not a sniper guy), so they might be different enough in handling to warrant using a lower damage weapon over the BW. I kinda doubt it, however.
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Post by civviewarrior20 on Mar 22, 2017 12:51:56 GMT
What about rate of fire and reload speed?
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Post by Dave the Scrub on Mar 22, 2017 12:55:36 GMT
My only problem with this is an Avenger X is still pretty crappy compared to a Hurricane I.
I would say that having characters with decent power sets, and the ability (and willingness) to equip ammo that can prime combos is a better prerequisite to Silver than having common X weapons. From my experience, having enemies constantly primed for combos, and having powers that can spam detonation goes a lot further in making the waves easy.
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Post by Seraphiene on Mar 22, 2017 12:55:54 GMT
I don't care if you reckon you are the leetest on the server, you're not joining my heroic 10 man in 5 man dungeon blues.
Oh man, I've absolutely never claimed to be an elite player. Well, now we have that out of the way and as for the rest: I really don't care.
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Post by leafspring on Mar 22, 2017 12:59:48 GMT
What about rate of fire and reload speed? DPS naturally includes rate of fire, reload speed for the BW is currently unknown except to those who already have one. I do havea Viper I but haven't checked yet either. Given that both have three shots per clip, I'd assume they're not that different, though.
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Post by someN7orother on Mar 22, 2017 13:02:28 GMT
Spending an hour killing a basic mook with your Avenger I in Silver is not being a helpful and contributing member of the team. I see your point, but you don't exactly need level X weapons to be able to contribute in a Silver match. Even a low level player can contribute- e.g. help with objectives, detonate powers and revive teammates when he/she can. Not arguing with the fact that the match might take longer and be more difficult for the other players. Yeah... if you're queuing with the mentality that it's ok for you to make other player's lives more difficult, I'm queuing with the mentality that I'm not putting on the backpack today. It's not that I'm unhelpful, it's that selfish people piss me off.
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Post by vomder on Mar 22, 2017 13:26:56 GMT
Considering what I've seen so far in Bronze matches, man I wouldn't want to see randoms just yet in anything higher. You're lucky if the do anything helpful. But that's randoms for you.
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Post by Seraphiene on Mar 22, 2017 13:36:46 GMT
I see your point, but you don't exactly need level X weapons to be able to contribute in a Silver match. Even a low level player can contribute- e.g. help with objectives, detonate powers and revive teammates when he/she can. Not arguing with the fact that the match might take longer and be more difficult for the other players. Yeah... if you're queuing with the mentality that it's ok for you to make other player's lives more difficult, I'm queuing with the mentality that I'm not putting on the backpack today. It's not that I'm unhelpful, it's that selfish people piss me off. I can see this discussion is going somewhere it's not supposed to. I'm definitely one of those people who always try to help the team. During ME3 I really enjoyed helping newer players once I knew how to efficiently play the game. Again, I'm not saying I'm an elite player. Right now, we all are more or less beginners. I myself would not play a Silver match with a level 1 Avenger+level 1 character (Not saying it's not possible, I've seen people use low level weapons and characters and actually not suck doing it. Also, I still think you don't need level X weapons to play Silver.), since I don't want to be a burden to the team, but I don't mind to carry other players once I get better at this game.
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Post by someN7orother on Mar 22, 2017 14:03:01 GMT
Yeah... if you're queuing with the mentality that it's ok for you to make other player's lives more difficult, I'm queuing with the mentality that I'm not putting on the backpack today. It's not that I'm unhelpful, it's that selfish people piss me off. I can see this discussion is going somewhere it's not supposed to. I'm definitely one of those people who always try to help the team. During ME3 I really enjoyed helping newer players once I knew how to efficiently play the game. Again, I'm not saying I'm an elite player. Right now, we all are more or less beginners. I myself would not play a Silver match with a level 1 Avenger+level 1 character (Not saying it's not possible, I've seen people use low level weapons and characters and actually not suck doing it. Also, I still think you don't need level X weapons to play Silver.), since I don't want to be a burden to the team, but I don't mind to carry other players once I get better at this game. I didn't mean you personally , I don't know you to make any such judgments. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generic_you(ENFL here so maybe that's where the misunderstanding comes from) I've about 15 hours or so logged in MEAMP -a pitiful amount by any measure- and I can tell you that I've yet to see a level 1, Katana/Avenger I-toting, Apex 0 rating player do even passably on silver games. I'm simply done playing the odds with such people.
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Post by Seraphiene on Mar 22, 2017 15:15:08 GMT
I didn't mean you personally , I don't know you to make any such judgments. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generic_you(ENFL here so maybe that's where the misunderstanding comes from) Oh, sorry for the misunderstanding! I´m also not a native English speaker.
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