The Old Guard (Ye Olde Cullen Thread v4.0 + gen discussion)

I miss all the conversation.

If we do eventually change the thread title, I think just going with Ye Old Guard thread, or something like that would suffice. Down the road.

As for Seb, there is that one little blurb in the Legacy dlc--if Bethany is alive and with you; and sounds like she's flirting with Seb, or something going on! Hawke can have a response based on your aggro/sarcastic/diplomatic bent.

Friggin Bethany..

Aaaw I didn't take Sebastian with me in Legacy (needed sissy and Fenris), but I think he and Bethany would be adorable.

I did most of the Solasmance. It didn't have the same umph for me as I think it would have if I had romanced him first.

It was going nice, though until the whole vallaslin thing. My Q wanted to keep hers, whatever it meant before didn't matter to her. It meant something completelt different now. Especially now that she has not seen her family and friends and clan in so long, and may never.

So, at any rate, she wanted to keep her vallaslin, and Solas did not seem to know how to take no for an answer. He kept at it...and everything about his reaction felt wrong to me. I'm not going to get to much into it, but that was a turning point for my Q with Solas and she perceived him....and how she thought he really perceived her.

I knew the big reveal already, but I had not run into this vallaslin bit. So, it was a fresh experience.

As for Seb, there is that one little blurb in the Legacy dlc--if Bethany is alive and with you; and sounds like she's flirting with Seb, or something going on! Hawke can have a response based on your aggro/sarcastic/diplomatic bent.

Friggin Bethany..

Don't let R2 hear you say that..

I romanced Solas on my first playthrough, so I got the "full" experience.

I was the same about the vallaslin, but Solas didn't push too much in my conversation. He even apologized for accidentally making her feel bad and said it didn't bother him if she kept them. Maybe the speech options make a difference.

Ah, yes, all those lovely expectations. A dwarven romance... A Cadash Inquisitor meeting Shale Cadash (or at least hearing something about her)... Not being told I'd screwed up the Harding almost-romance in Trespasser... cutscenes as a dwarf with Varric that don't involve him either looking twice as tall or take place with furniture blocking his face...

LOL Right. Assume that the dwarf players are expecting to get screwed at every turn... it only looks up from there. ahem. no pun intended.  

(edit: altho, come again? how can  you screw up the Harding almost-romance? You mean, her flirtation with that scholar dude? Or, wait, that was JoH, I think. So... there's a Harding almost-romance in Trespasser??  )

Hmm, I guess I also didn't feel that he pressed too hard, but then I reloaded that scene for as many times as it took to experience every dialogue branch the first time. So I also saw him apologize and tell me that I'm beautiful either way. Then, I went ahead and let him remove them, since my Lavellan was so shell shocked. And the way he told me I was beautiful after removing them was goosebump-inducing.

Whew! Had no internet for a few days so missed being here a bit But to catch up...

Dwarves get consistently shafted. So It Is Written. But at least we can be grateful for all of Tish's hilarious screenshots

Sebastian vowing to murder the entire city of Kirkwall (and then carrying through with it in DAI?? Yes?? I haven't imported him) is about as ooc as Anders gaining approval when you sell Fenris back into slavery. Ha ha ha, devs, very funny. We will now pretend this never happened.

The devs ideas about what makes a good romance v. the players. A tale as old as time.

r.e. Solas romance: I think it depends on the inquisitor. My Lavellan was very innocent and very pure-hearted and looked up to Solas. When Solas told him the meaning behind the vallaslin, he was heartbroken. He loved his people so much, and gently defended them around Solas (Solas is usually chastened when you tell him to knock it off about the Dalish OR he throws in a smooth compliment, like, the Dalish sucked but they made you, didn't they, babe )  He let Solas remove the vallaslin because... well, basically, he would let Solas do anything. If Solas thought it was the right thing to do, then so be it.

Different characters of mine would've been like, hell nah. My Cullenmancer thought Solas was an arrogant prick and he never looked twice at him. My Cadash rolled her eyes at him. My current Lavellan respects him as a fellow mage but would have raised his eyebrows at being told his vallaslin were slave markings.

so, yeah. Depends on the character!

I did search the thread but I was looking for links in people's signatures and they seem to be gone. But Sagefic!!! That's the one I'm looking for Thanks a lot!

Ah, the Harding pseudo-romance. If you flirt consistently with Harding during the vanilla game and don't romance someone else, Harding will eventually ask you if you were serious about the flirting then say you should get a drink together sometime in the tavern, hence the pseudo-romance. But in Trespasser, during Vivienne's spa day, she'll ask you if you ever took Harding out for that date, and you stammer out yes in a way that makes it very clear that you never got around to it, sigh. Dunno if it had anything to do with her professor admirer in JoH or not, but damn, unless they're planning to bring Harding back in the next game, that was a bit of a kick in the teeth since people have actually foregone other romances for that one conversation with Harding.