Cassandra Pentaghast - Thread - "Deal.With.It."

I always have Leliana as Divine.

While Cass would make for a good Divine as she's the most moderate candidate, it seems to me that she'd be far happier rebuilding the Seekers. With the Seeker ending, she has a chance to rebuild the group she views as almost family, has no restrictions on her professional or private life, nor does she have to deal with the endless stress that comes with leading the Chantry or playing the Game.

(Plus the Seeker Trespasser epilogue is the only one to show her smiling broadly, so that's an automatic win for me)

I haven't romanced her yet (it's planned for my 4th playthrough), but I think after learning what a romantic Cassandra is, I feel bad making her the divine. I want her to get her hunka-hunka, and she's more free to do that if she isn't divine.

Did anyone else have trouble warming up to Cassandra the first time they played? After the way she treated Varric (who really had done nothing wrong, and nothing to deserve her ire in the beginning) I had a really hard time wanting my first Inquisitor to be friends with her. I saw her initially as someone for whom the ends justify the means, who didn't care how innocent Varric was...he had information she wanted, and she was willing to do anything to get it.

I don't mean to bash her, because I did get over the feeling and she is now one of my favorites, but I just wondered if anyone else got the same first impression.

I divinemanced her. Nothing I had decided beforehand, I just tried to stay in character and see what the result would be. She has time to rebuild the seekers even as a divine apparantly.

I am pleased with the end result since it also means Leliana gets to "retire" to be with my warden finally

Um...why? What did he do? He's one of the most loyal companions in the series 

Why did you feel she was in the right? As I said, I did end up really liking Cassandra, but I don't see how she is entitled to know where Hawke is (especially not at the beginning, when she hasn't even explained to Varric why she needs Hawke). Varric was just trying to protect his friend who, honestly, has been used and abused more than enough by those in power.

Lol. Fair enough. I don't think Hawke ultimately minded helping, especially since Corypheus was involved. But I do think it would have gone easier for everyone (Cassandra included) if she had just explained to Varric what the problem was instead of treating him like a criminal right from the beginning. Plus, then there might not have been a separate Inquisitor PC, and we could have played Hawke as protagonist again. And I approve of that 

My Hawke and Isabela would probably have asked Cassandra to join them in their bed...

Well, in that scene we knew nothing of him other than just what we saw in that scene. And in that scene he was being a wise guy so it was perfectly understandable she would get upset at that since we see that all the time in reality and other media, and overall in that scene he just rubbed me the wrong way and sure enough his actual character did no better. He never dropped the know it all act and this loyalty you speak of is always self-serving at its heart. He only is loyal to Hawke to first get us to join his expedition and later have a powerful friend to help bail him out, and his reason for being with the Inquisition was because it was going to effect him too. Also in a meta sense he rubbed me the wrong way because they were forcing a Garrus situation where he is your bro. What pushed me from indifference and dislike to severe dislike though is his betrayal of both Hawke and the Inquisitor by not telling Cassandra and later the Inquisition about Hawke. 

I think the failure of communication might have been due to Cassandra's brashness and Seeker mentality overriding her common sense.

As a Seeker and Right Hand of the Divine for nearly twenty years, she's long since gotten used to having Mages, Templar and Chantry members fall into line when she approaches them with questions. Dealing with someone outside the normal Chantry power structure, let alone who displayed as independent and obstinate a streak as Varric most definitely threw her off balance.

Thus she fell back on her training and approached the situation in DA2 like it was a criminal interrogation (even if technically it was). She demanded answers from him, rather than attempting a more diplomatic route and simply explaining the situation and asking for his help, something she later admits might have had more success.

I don't think Varric would have sold out Hawke even if Cassandra told him the reason why he/she was needed.

The Inner Circle (and Varric) only finds out about Corypheus after the Breach is closed for the first time and the Herald escapes from Haven though. Meaning that depending how you played her/him back in DA2, Hawke had little to no reasons to give a flying fuck about the Divine's wishes to use him/her as her trump card in her dealings with the Mage Rebellion - and Vava knew that. Or he thought he did - he can be annoyingly paternalistic when it comes to Hawke.

And yes, Cass made a mistake, she acknowledges it herself. She's one of the (very) few characters who acknowledge when she does something wrong, actually.

That was one of my biggest disappointments in the game actually. I was looking forward to her squeeing upon seeing Hawke. XD Oh well...