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Post by Natashina on Apr 22, 2017 4:51:31 GMT
Edited the title to make it clear that the information does not include Origin digital sales.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2017 4:59:29 GMT
Looks to me like MEA is selling just fine. We don't know how much it sold on Origin but I would guess a sizable portion of PC sales is from there. Add that to what these other estimates are for non-Origin sales and it looks to be doing pretty well. I think the real measure EA and BW could use is how well DLC sells. If people truly aren't happy with the game DLC sales will be down. I doubt anyone at BW/EA is panicking just yet, but if DLC for the game flops? To me that would be a bigger sign of how good the game is. Players are going to buy the base game just based on the BW and ME labels alone. I think they will be less inclined to pay out for DLC if they think the game stunk. If they don't and DLC sales are up, well BW can stay the course. Well, EA made their bed. I'm sorry, I'm not buying anything until it's thoroughly patched and the final collector's edition comes out. This is what EA has done to me along with Ubisoft, Bethesda, Obisidian and anything from Steam. When does the cutoff occur after a game is released as a Collector's Edition? Gotta be smart about it.
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Apr 22, 2017 5:09:11 GMT
I found ME: A better than ME 1 and ME 3 congrats, you've got an opinion that isn't widely held. And he is entitled to it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2017 5:13:49 GMT
Although I agree it's a disappointment, you people seem to enjoy watching one of your favourite franchises get destroyed instead of trying to make it better I think it's been destroyed. Past event. And now we just want them not to get away with it. You can declare it all you want, but don't you really want to see another well made ME game ?
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Post by q5tyhj on Apr 22, 2017 5:20:00 GMT
Hopefully the sales are bad enough to make them understand they f'ed up, but not so bad that it kills the entire Mass Effect franchise or prevents an attempt at a quality game in the future. yep, this 100%
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Post by alanc9 on Apr 22, 2017 5:20:00 GMT
Can someone help me sort out the "disappointment" angle? When did EA ever predict that ME:A would outsell ME3? That seems a bit crazy; hell, six months ago all the gloom-n-doom chatter here was about how ME3 had so crippled the franchise that ME:A wouldn't interest anybody. Early this year, it was found out during an investor's call that EA predicted that Mass Effect: Andromeda will sell around three million copies around launch and a total of six million lifetime. I guess that is what people are saying that is was a "disappointment" or "flop". Thanks. Aren't those pretty close to the best-guess numbers for ME3?
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Post by vilegrim on Apr 22, 2017 5:21:37 GMT
Although I agree it's a disappointment, you people seem to enjoy watching one of your favourite franchises get destroyed instead of trying to make it better Well since BW haven't made a good game since ME 2, and have ignored or ridiculed people for pointing out what utter turd piles DA2, DAI, ME3 and MEA where, and exactly what was wrong with them (and no it was not their political stance), it was the removal of roleplaying from the games, the feeling of choice that made nearly every BW game prior to that a calssic, was gone, replaced by the march of bland personalityless niceness typified by the Inquisitor and exemplified by Ryder, no real choices just 2 or 4 tones of submission to events and npcs, a va without any real emotion and a studio that had been famed for tight focused narratives that branched in significant ways when important feeling choices where made giving us a paradoxical mix of rail roaded main plots and desolate open world sections, the amount of open world increasing each game to try to mask ever more forced main quests. Ryder cannot offer any dissent at all, or excercise any agency, he has less personality and freedom than the average fps protagonist, and that trend has been increasing in BW games, to the point that I now struggle to see how they are actually rpgs.
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Post by vilegrim on Apr 22, 2017 5:23:22 GMT
As it was mentioned, they (EAware) already destroyed the franchise. The thing is, there are people who have realized it, and those that are in some sort of aggressive denial.
Also, If there are Bioware people reading this, you can contact me, and I will tell you where/how exactly did you fucked up with Andromeda, what needs to change in the future if you want to make the fans happy, and make your next game successful. If that's not what you want, just focus on the drone/praise comments, sit back in your safe zone, close your eyes, and wait for EA to close you down. I'm sure they'll contact someone who's manufactured their own reality. Then pass along the results to mental healthcare professionals. Wait they called you?
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Post by vilegrim on Apr 22, 2017 5:28:17 GMT
Steam is the standard - it's where most people get there games. People don't like how EA is forcing them to install a separate client just for new EA games. There's over 125m steam users as of 2015, while the last update EA released pegged the Origin install base at 50m. The gap is probably bigger now. You're saying that gamers really are that stupid? Most are smarter than me and did not put EA spyware on their pc, seriously if I was smarter I would have researched how much Origin tells EA before I installed it, but I R stupid when it ckones to BW games and more fool, me, for I haven't honesy liked one since ME2
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Post by vilegrim on Apr 22, 2017 5:29:19 GMT
This reminds me of all those articles claim that BvS(and suicide squad) is a financial failure for Warner Brothers and they should stop making DCEU film. As a matter of fact Bioware is pretty much like DCEU right now, being hated for whatever reason and whatever they do right is ignored by a the haters completely. This should be good, what was right in mea?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2017 5:31:44 GMT
Although I agree it's a disappointment, you people seem to enjoy watching one of your favourite franchises get destroyed instead of trying to make it better Well since BW haven't made a good game since ME 2, and have ignored or ridiculed people for pointing out what utter turd piles DA2, DAI, ME3 and MEA where, and exactly what was wrong with them (and no it was not their political stance), it was the removal of roleplaying from the games, the feeling of choice that made nearly every BW game prior to that a calssic, was gone, replaced by the march of bland personalityless niceness typified by the Inquisitor and exemplified by Ryder, no real choices just 2 or 4 tones of submission to events and npcs, a va without any real emotion and a studio that had been famed for tight focused narratives that branched in significant ways when important feeling choices where made giving us a paradoxical mix of rail roaded main plots and desolate open world sections, the amount of open world increasing each game to try to mask ever more forced main quests. Ryder cannot offer any dissent at all, or excercise any agency, he has less personality and freedom than the average fps protagonist, and that trend has been increasing in BW games, to the point that I now struggle to see how they are actually rpgs. If you hate them this much, why are you wasting your time on their fan forum don't you have better things to do?
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Post by Sanunes on Apr 22, 2017 5:32:22 GMT
Early this year, it was found out during an investor's call that EA predicted that Mass Effect: Andromeda will sell around three million copies around launch and a total of six million lifetime. I guess that is what people are saying that is was a "disappointment" or "flop". Thanks. Aren't those pretty close to the best-guess numbers for ME3? My knowledge is limited in this area, but I think that is accurate. Its all corporate speak trying to keep investors happy.
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Post by Sanunes on Apr 22, 2017 5:33:39 GMT
You're saying that gamers really are that stupid? Most are smarter than me and did not put EA spyware on their pc, seriously if I was smarter I would have researched how much Origin tells EA before I installed it, but I R stupid when it ckones to BW games and more fool, me, for I haven't honesy liked one since ME2 Proof? For Valve's spyware does the exact same things and I think most people are happy with it for they are still using it.
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Post by KaiserShep on Apr 22, 2017 5:35:22 GMT
This reminds me of all those articles claim that BvS(and suicide squad) is a financial failure for Warner Brothers and they should stop making DCEU film. As a matter of fact Bioware is pretty much like DCEU right now, being hated for whatever reason and whatever they do right is ignored by a the haters completely. Eh, the DCEU is way way worse lol. It was actually kind of impressive just how blindingly awful BvS really is. For the first time in my life, I wanted Batman to die in a fire.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2017 5:35:56 GMT
I think this newer crew can do it if they are given the chance to. They already got their feet wet working on this game and need the chance to show that the experience they acquired has been valuable and the future of the series would benefit from that. I actually liked DA2 a lot more than some and wish it had gotten the longer development cycle it needed. Inquisition was a weak game for me (one of my least liked Bioware titles, actually), but they did have to learn a new engine and, I suspect, re-write some of their plans due to feedback over 2. I didn't think the story was really good (just average) until the scene after the credits rolled. Trespasser was a good DLC, though. The future of that series intrigues me as I think it could have the strongest narrative and villain setup for Dragon Age yet. I think, if this studio is given the power to continue on with ME, they could very likely make a damn good game. I'm just worried how they will respond to criticisms and "fan ideas". Truth be told, I think Bioware is horrendous about going overboard with implementing what fans want (or what they think they want); not to mention not all fan beliefs and ideas unify nor does it always serve to strengthen a game. They need to be smart about what they do and have a strong vision from the team. You're very optimistic, nothing wrong with that. I'm a little more jaded, lol. I think Bioware may have gone a little too far implementing some things that fans wanted instead of what they wanted too. It probably takes someone with good instincts to be able to decipher that.
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Post by KaiserShep on Apr 22, 2017 5:38:47 GMT
This reminds me of all those articles claim that BvS(and suicide squad) is a financial failure for Warner Brothers and they should stop making DCEU film. As a matter of fact Bioware is pretty much like DCEU right now, being hated for whatever reason and whatever they do right is ignored by a the haters completely. This should be good, what was right in mea? C'mon. You know that any answer to this would simply be met with "Lol no it wasn't"
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Post by vilegrim on Apr 22, 2017 5:40:46 GMT
Well since BW haven't made a good game since ME 2, and have ignored or ridiculed people for pointing out what utter turd piles DA2, DAI, ME3 and MEA where, and exactly what was wrong with them (and no it was not their political stance), it was the removal of roleplaying from the games, the feeling of choice that made nearly every BW game prior to that a calssic, was gone, replaced by the march of bland personalityless niceness typified by the Inquisitor and exemplified by Ryder, no real choices just 2 or 4 tones of submission to events and npcs, a va without any real emotion and a studio that had been famed for tight focused narratives that branched in significant ways when important feeling choices where made giving us a paradoxical mix of rail roaded main plots and desolate open world sections, the amount of open world increasing each game to try to mask ever more forced main quests. Ryder cannot offer any dissent at all, or excercise any agency, he has less personality and freedom than the average fps protagonist, and that trend has been increasing in BW games, to the point that I now struggle to see how they are actually rpgs. If you hate them this much, why are you wasting your time on their fan forum don't you have better things to do? Honestly? Trying to distract myself from RL an pd arguing politics is bad for my blood pressure, so here wins the prize,
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2017 5:49:38 GMT
If you hate them this much, why are you wasting your time on their fan forum don't you have better things to do? Honestly? Trying to distract myself from RL an pd arguing politics is bad for my blood pressure, so here wins the prize, Haha I get that too, might I suggest playing/watching sports? It help me
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Post by joglee on Apr 22, 2017 5:51:25 GMT
Natashina change thread title cause apparently OP doesn't understand what confirmed or worldwide means OP is a troll.
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on Apr 22, 2017 6:02:32 GMT
I'm sure they'll contact someone who's manufactured their own reality. Then pass along the results to mental healthcare professionals. Wait they called you?
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Post by Eterna on Apr 22, 2017 6:17:37 GMT
What a misleading thread.
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Post by admiralbonetopickmk2 on Apr 22, 2017 6:19:53 GMT
If the game has been financial disappointment due to lack of expected sales... then i say good. It serves them right for making such a POS game. Failure should never be rewarded. Hopefully this gives them the swift kick up the ass EA/Bioware need, not likely i know.. but here's hoping.
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Post by alanc9 on Apr 22, 2017 6:27:01 GMT
You're saying that gamers really are that stupid? Most are smarter than me and did not put EA spyware on their pc, seriously if I was smarter I would have researched how much Origin tells EA before I installed it, but I R stupid when it ckones to BW games and more fool, me, for I haven't honesy liked one since ME2 I don't really get this fear. EA's going to .... show me targeted ads, so I'll see ads for stuff I'm interested in rather than ads for stuff I'm not interested in? Hell, I wish they were doing that. I keep seeing ads for stuff I own.
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Post by projectpatdc on Apr 22, 2017 6:40:24 GMT
Ghost Recon is just a fun multiplayer shooter and considering how much COD sells, the numbers for Wildlands makes sense.
Zelda BOTW is by far one of the best open world video games ever made. Hands down. I love Witcher 3 (and Horizon Zero Dawn)for everything that it is, but I think Zelda BOTW beats it overall. It's like they took the freedom approach with so many mechanics like Metal Gear Solid V, added Witcher style loot and customization, it's own traversal system, every Zelda landmark, lore, and characters and blended that into a pretty awesome story.
I'll take 3rd place with Mass Effect Andromeda even if the digital sales and other countries aren't accounted. It's no where near the level of BOTW and I'm one of the weird ones who loved ME:Andromeda.
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Post by Sanunes on Apr 22, 2017 6:40:24 GMT
Most are smarter than me and did not put EA spyware on their pc, seriously if I was smarter I would have researched how much Origin tells EA before I installed it, but I R stupid when it ckones to BW games and more fool, me, for I haven't honesy liked one since ME2 I don't really get this fear. EA's going to .... show me targeted ads, so I'll see ads for stuff I'm interested in rather than ads for stuff I'm not interested in? Hell, I wish they were doing that. I keep seeing ads for stuff I own. Its more like "EA is going to take my income tax information I have on my computer according to the EULA", of course Steam has the exact same language, but it is different because "they trust Valve" who has been ignoring the people getting screwed by scams on their service for years.
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