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Post by Sanunes on Apr 22, 2017 6:43:40 GMT
Ghost Recon is just a fun multiplayer shooter and considering how much COD sells, the numbers for Wildlands makes sense. Zelda BOTW is by far one of the best open world video games ever made. Hands down. I love Witcher 3 for everything that it is, but I think Zelda BOTW beats it overall. It's like they took the freedom approach with so many mechanics like Metal Gear Solid V, added Witcher style loot and customization, it's own traversal system, every Zelda landmark, lore, and characters and blended that into a pretty awesome story. I'll take 3rd place with Mass Effect Andromeda even if the digital sales and other countries aren't accounted. It's no where near the level of BOTW and I'm one of the weird ones who loved ME:Andromeda. The funny thing is you can see the internet in all its glory when it comes to Breath of the Wild and when Jim Sterling game it a 7/10 because he found faults with the game that he didn't enjoy and all of a sudden instead of attacking a company like BioWare because they didn't like what they were doing they were attacking him because they felt his score wasn't good enough. I won't say Andromeda was a perfect game, but the hive mind mentality of the internet is something that influences what we see because of clickbait. |
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Post by projectpatdc on Apr 22, 2017 6:54:28 GMT
Ghost Recon is just a fun multiplayer shooter and considering how much COD sells, the numbers for Wildlands makes sense. Zelda BOTW is by far one of the best open world video games ever made. Hands down. I love Witcher 3 for everything that it is, but I think Zelda BOTW beats it overall. It's like they took the freedom approach with so many mechanics like Metal Gear Solid V, added Witcher style loot and customization, it's own traversal system, every Zelda landmark, lore, and characters and blended that into a pretty awesome story. I'll take 3rd place with Mass Effect Andromeda even if the digital sales and other countries aren't accounted. It's no where near the level of BOTW and I'm one of the weird ones who loved ME:Andromeda. The funny thing is you can see the internet in all its glory when it comes to Breath of the Wild and when Jim Sterling game it a 7/10 because he found faults with the game that he didn't enjoy and all of a sudden instead of attacking a company like BioWare because they didn't like what they were doing they were attacking him because they felt his score wasn't good enough. I won't say Andromeda was a perfect game, but the hive mind mentality of the internet is something that influences what we see because of clickbait. Well said. I enjoyed Jim's review as I do most of his content. It was respectable as most Nintendo game reviews are inflated. But my god is BOtW fun to play. The internet needs to except that the internet, like mass crowds of sheep or cattle, is dumb can be easily directed/misdirected |
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Post by bizantura on Apr 22, 2017 7:07:27 GMT
I give Bioware the best of luck.
But remember that "tiny minority" that does not belong to the LBTG and or feminist crowd has something to do with your sales statistics.
Hiding behind "political correctness" goes only so far and if that "tiny minority" stops buying I doubt Bioware/EA will be smiling.
A little suggestion : swap your current moral knights writers back with the previous successful talented ones asap.
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Post by Kabraxal on Apr 22, 2017 7:14:23 GMT
I give Bioware the best of luck. But remember that "tiny minority" that does not belong to the LBTG and or feminist crowd has something to do with your sales statistics. Hiding behind "political correctness" goes only so far and if that "tiny minority" stops buying I doubt Bioware/EA will be smiling. A little suggestion : swap your current moral knights writers back with the previous successful talented ones asap. You mean the writers that wrote lesbian and bi characters over a decade ago? Those "non sjw" writers? Hmmmmmmm. |
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Post by KaiserShep on Apr 22, 2017 7:16:16 GMT
Most are smarter than me and did not put EA spyware on their pc, seriously if I was smarter I would have researched how much Origin tells EA before I installed it, but I R stupid when it ckones to BW games and more fool, me, for I haven't honesy liked one since ME2  I don't really get this fear. EA's going to .... show me targeted ads, so I'll see ads for stuff I'm interested in rather than ads for stuff I'm not interested in? Hell, I wish they were doing that. I keep seeing ads for stuff I own. |
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Post by correctamundo on Apr 22, 2017 7:17:25 GMT
Kind of shame the amount of fake news, down right lies, and memes-as-fact are probably what sunk this game. If the salrs numbers are accurate Are they "sunk" though? |
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Post by Kabraxal on Apr 22, 2017 7:19:32 GMT
Kind of shame the amount of fake news, down right lies, and memes-as-fact are probably what sunk this game. If the salrs numbers are accurate Are they "sunk" though? Hopefully it pulls an Inquisition. As the internet bandwagon fell apart in most places, that game picked up nice numbers with sales. If the same happens with MEA, the mp revenue boost could easily offset any early and unwarranted damage. |
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Post by garrusfan1 on Apr 22, 2017 7:31:53 GMT
well while I play console and buy a physcial copy a f*ck ton of people buy digital. Especially for PC. And if this is only factoring in the USA then those numbers are actually good.
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Post by correctamundo on Apr 22, 2017 7:34:19 GMT
Hopefully it pulls an Inquisition. As the internet bandwagon fell apart in most places, that game picked up nice numbers with sales. If the same happens with MEA, the mp revenue boost could easily offset any early and unwarranted damage. As I recall Laidlaw (or someone other) was very surprised at how many digital copies they sold of DAI. That is compared to earlier Bioware big sellers like ME3. I think they used the word substantial at one point. So falling just short of ME3 in physical sales I don't see as bad unless you're expecting Skyrim or Diablo 3 numbers. And we know that at least EA is not expecting that. |
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Post by garrusfan1 on Apr 22, 2017 7:37:05 GMT
Guys there are other countries out there, but I doubt Zimbabwe and North Korea are buying a lot of MEA copies ahem britain,australia,canada,western europe. Those are as big or close to the american market. Listing a random country in africa and comparing it to the US is dumb. Also the video game industry in eastern europe is pretty big too if I heard right. So yes there is alot more people buying games outside the US then people seem to think. |
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Post by colfoley on Apr 22, 2017 7:38:01 GMT
Kind of shame the amount of fake news, down right lies, and memes-as-fact are probably what sunk this game. If the salrs numbers are accurate Are they "sunk" though? Point taken |
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Post by garrusfan1 on Apr 22, 2017 7:39:34 GMT
Although I agree it's a disappointment, you people seem to enjoy watching one of your favourite franchises get destroyed instead of trying to make it better One of the reasons I don't hang around places like this as much as I used to.... probably the same reason developers don't either. Oh I agree on this. I admit I was one of the people who raged about the ME3 ending for a long time but there is a line from criticizing to essentially being a a$$. If I was a developer and read some of these forums I think would stay in bed and cry |
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Post by Kabraxal on Apr 22, 2017 7:39:53 GMT
Hopefully it pulls an Inquisition. As the internet bandwagon fell apart in most places, that game picked up nice numbers with sales. If the same happens with MEA, the mp revenue boost could easily offset any early and unwarranted damage. As I recall Laidlaw (or someone other) was very surprised at how many digital copies they sold of DAI. That is compared to earlier Bioware big sellers like ME3. I think they used the word substantial at one point. So falling just short of ME3 in physical sales I don't see as bad unless you're expecting Skyrim or Diablo 3 numbers. And we know that at least EA is not expecting that. Yeah, I think everyone would be surprised to hit 20 mil let alone the 30 mil of a skyrim. Bioware games are absolute gems, but their character and lore focused games with layers to delve through do not tend to attract the mass audience. Most simply want either fast, frenetic action or very simple story/character beats. I mean, the cieling for these types of games were always hovering around 5 with only a few select titles hitting 10 anywhere. Then gaming went mainstream and the Call of Duty type ganes exploded as those that never gamed before entered the market. |
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Post by vonuber on Apr 22, 2017 7:44:19 GMT
ahem britain,australia,canada,western europe. Those are as big or close to the american market. Listing a random country in africa and comparing it to the US is dumb. Also the video game industry in eastern europe is pretty big too if I heard right. So yes there is alot more people buying games outside the US then people seem to think. I honestly think that for a lot of posters on here they think the US is the only country in the world - or at least the only one that plays computer games. |
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Post by London on Apr 22, 2017 8:03:08 GMT
Either way I wonder whar impact this game will have on future sales.
This is the very first game since I discovered BioWare roar I didn't pre-order a deluxe edition. Because of how DAI turned out, I waited and bought this on sale for $43 after the release.
1.05 halted me in my tracks on PC and the game suddenly no longer plays on my high-end gaming computer.
I doubt I'll return when they hopefully fix these issues that thousands of of users ads experiencing in their tech forums and may not buy future games at all.
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Post by Psychevore on Apr 22, 2017 8:30:57 GMT
Yeah, solid numbers would help determine what the series might look like in the future. Some real news would have been nice. It might be gradually more difficult to determine because of the many people moving towards digital. But... this is real news. The only numbers not included are Origin sales for digital. And do you honestly think Andromeda has a huge sales presence in Asia? Maybe a little footprint in Europe, and that's it. And it's not on Steam, its on Origin, so it's digital sales will be even worse than what would be considered normal for a comparable AAA game on Steam. This is just a lie: there's a lot more not included in these figures, like every digital copy sold on the world outside of the USA. You do know only a fraction of the world's population lives in the USA, right? |
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Post by Psychevore on Apr 22, 2017 8:34:19 GMT
ahem britain,australia,canada,western europe. Those are as big or close to the american market. Listing a random country in africa and comparing it to the US is dumb. Also the video game industry in eastern europe is pretty big too if I heard right. So yes there is alot more people buying games outside the US then people seem to think. I honestly think that for a lot of posters on here they think the US is the only country in the world - or at least the only one that plays computer games. Obviously they do, as the only other countries they can come up with are Zimbabwe and North Korea. |
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Post by Conquer Your Dreams on Apr 22, 2017 8:40:25 GMT
Pure guessing at the moment. One day information about ME:A sales will leak, but not today, and not tomorrow.
Personally i'am sure that with such a bad press and reviews sales are not so high as expected - and that's good, cause this is the only way to let them think about what goes wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2017 8:41:19 GMT
People posting that a financial failure for a product will encourage said company to deliver a better product seems to live in some sort of alternative reality. Financial failures 99% of times leads to the shutting down of the production of said product and NOT in its own improvement.
I would like people to realize that ME is the only AAA action RPG that offers a party based sci-fi game with romances. If this game get shut down, we won't have an alternative to it. I really really don't understand what these hateful "fans" thinks when they are happy about a supposed disappointment with the franchise they are fans of.
It's EA we are talking about...you get this?
No ME profit = No future ME game
Get it?
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Post by SofNascimento on Apr 22, 2017 8:45:37 GMT
Hopefully EA realizes now, after this major flop, that it has to change Bioware. I don't know how much EA is to blame for Bioware's fall, but it has to do something now because if this same team make the next Mass Effect game, it's won't be great neither. Nor any other game for that matter. What precisely qualifies a game as a major flop these days? Disappointing critic reviews, user reviews and sales. The trifecta. Not to mention Andromeda became a internet huge joke even before the game was release. |
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Post by Astralify on Apr 22, 2017 9:49:37 GMT
People posting that a financial failure for a product will encourage said company to deliver a better product seems to live in some sort of alternative reality. Financial failures 99% of times leads to the shutting down of the production of said product and NOT in its own improvement. I would like people to realize that ME is the only AAA action RPG that offers a party based sci-fi game with romances. If this game get shut down, we won't have an alternative to it. I really really don't understand what these hateful "fans" thinks when they are happy about a supposed disappointment with the franchise they are fans of. It's EA we are talking about...you get this? No ME profit = No future ME game Get it? I'd seriously suggest people to reconsider what they are wishing for. If every game gets progressively worse, I'd rather not have any more "bioware"games at all. What is the POINT of getting 1% of the experience you look for in these games? It might as well simply not exist. It's that simple. For me, 80% of andromeda I can't stand, especially the combat/gameplay. And, besides the romances (which are done soo poorly, and written worse than rule34 fanfiction), what else is left in andromeda? That resembles a bioware game? I'll tell you. NOTHING. Party-based? Really? Fallout 4 has more depth to it's companion system than Andromeda. And trust me, there will be alternatives. If you haven't noticed, while bioware dumbs their unique stuff like dialogue wheel, romance, choice and so on, other big studios like bethesda and CD PROJEKT RED seem to silently adopt them in their own games. Even Call of Duty at some point hilariously took some elements, which is actually kinda funny. To put it simple, if bioware won't give us what we want, others will. EDIT:Also, I wanted to add about your ridiculous statement, that "the notion of financial failure for a product will encourage said company to deliver a better product seems to live in some sort of alternative reality", apparently you've missed the situation with CoD: Infinite warefare. What happened with that game? The studio wanted to try something different (ironicly it reminded me of mass effect 3, with the ship and the stuff). That was actually the only time CoD peaked my interest. But what happened? There was a massive fan uproar and boycott, (oviously the CoD crowd/fanbase hates any sort of change as well). Which lead to what? Activision is now giving them a WWII game.
So, you are telling me, that the casual CoD crowd can bring their "beloved" franchise to it's roots (even though I disagree with them, but I can respect them for it), but we the Bioware fans cant? We are suppose to accept the dumbing down of our favorite franchise to nothing more than a generic Gears of war clone, and be happy about it? AND EVEN DEFEND IT (biodrones)? This level of masochism and stupidity is something I will never understand.Or perhaps you are saying that Bioware doesn't care as much for it's well being as much as Activision cares for it's money maker? Think about that. |
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Post by Sanunes on Apr 22, 2017 10:26:59 GMT
Pure guessing at the moment. One day information about ME:A sales will leak, but not today, and not tomorrow. Personally i'am sure that with such a bad press and reviews sales are not so high as expected - and that's good, cause this is the only way to let them think about what goes wrong. I really doubt that we will see true sales numbers for an EA game. I cannot recall when we had real sales numbers for any EA game, they don't even release numbers to show a game was a major success like I bet the FIFA games are. The best we are going to get is from the financial report that EA will be releasing for their investors after closing on May 9th, according to their investor information. You will be surprised about those sales numbers, for not everyone things the same way. I bet a lot of people that even bought the game don't know about the "controversy" around the game since they don't bother to look up games on the internet. An anonymous developer posts a Q&A with people on the internet (AskAGameDev) and he says with the metrics they have used there is the (80/15/5) rule they go by. 5% of the people will communicate on forums like this and actively post, 15% will read reviews, and the other 80% will just buy the game and stay way from what others say. Even if sales aren't as high as expected, but close I think it won't have the impact you want and even if it does it might change the game in a direction people won't like. People keep saying that BioWare's latest game will ruin the company or the franchises and they are still here and I have been seeing those comments since I started following their forums with Dragon Age: Origins. |
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Post by Fredward on Apr 22, 2017 10:38:13 GMT
Holy shit I can't. IF MEA sold poorly what it got criticized on was 1) animations 2) vast empty open worlds 3) a cast of characters that wasn't as engaging as previous Bioware fare 4) a weak story yet somehow that is attributable to SJWs. I suppose I shouldn't be surprised by scapegoating any more but wow. Do these people even hear themselves when they speak or is it just static? :smh:
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Post by bshep on Apr 22, 2017 11:22:32 GMT
But... this is real news. The only numbers not included are Origin sales for digital. And do you honestly think Andromeda has a huge sales presence in Asia? Maybe a little footprint in Europe, and that's it. And it's not on Steam, its on Origin, so it's digital sales will be even worse than what would be considered normal for a comparable AAA game on Steam. This is just a lie: there's a lot more not included in these figures, like every digital copy sold on the world outside of the USA. You do know only a fraction of the world's population lives in the USA, right? It's the same doomsayers from months ago. They don't mind twisting facts as long as it fits their little narrative.  |
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Post by wolfsite on Apr 22, 2017 11:29:38 GMT
Holy shit I can't. IF MEA sold poorly what it got criticized on was 1) animations 2) vast empty open worlds 3) a cast of characters that wasn't as engaging as previous Bioware fare 4) a weak story yet somehow that is attributable to SJWs. I suppose I shouldn't be surprised by scapegoating any more but wow. Do these people even hear themselves when they speak or is it just static? :smh: Animations is the only thing on this list that is a legit criticism that is being addressed. The Empty open world I call bullshit as there were several times I would look at the world maps of the different planets and need several minutes to decide on what to do because of all the quest markers, then there were a number of hidden things I found to do on the map that were not marked or never given an actual quest. The characters not being as engaging I don't know is a fair assessment because most people are comparing characters that have shown up in one game and are just starting to be fleshed out to characters we all have been with for the span of three games plus several DLC's and have been given plenty of moments to be expanded on. Even in Dragon Age the most memorable characters are the ones that have been involved in at least two games. Storytelling, like many things, is very subjective however you don't expand on it so I can't really discuss this because the way you have it just sounds like you are saying it's weak just because you say so, you need to give a reason to engage in a proper discussion (I don't accept the SJW thing as a proper discussion because, as you said, it's just something people use as a quick scapegoat. Frankly I would say the story is good in smaller chunks but it doesn't quite fit together as a whole though that may just be due to the different style of game it is compared to the previous games (open world Vs. more linear structure). |
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