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Post by bladefist on Nov 11, 2022 21:41:47 GMT
I was today years old when I found out Viconia's inspiration  TBH I like her Siege of Dragonspear portrait the best  EDIT: can't get this damned image to work... Yeah that's weird but I agree the SOD port is the best. Here's the porn star and Viconia comparison. 
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Post by bladefist on Nov 11, 2022 21:48:18 GMT
Here we go, found one that displays 
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Post by gervaise21 on Nov 12, 2022 12:51:34 GMT
Bards are a poor's man Fighter-Mage multiclass and especially dual class, but it's hard to compete with the most powerful build in the game. Still, they are pretty damn powerful in BG2 onwards, they get good buffs like Stoneskin, Mirror Image, and Greater Invisibility, and can use many weapons. Haer'Dalis is a strong companion and a great off-tank option. Would also mention that the Bard comes into their own in Throne of Bhaal when you can take the class ability Use Any Item. This meant I was able to use the most powerful sword in the game, Carsomyr, that can usually only be used by a paladin, as well as some other class specific items that had previously been denied to me. If you are not playing a Paladin and don't want Keldorn in your party, which I didn't as he doesn't get on with Viconia, it is always rather frustrating to defeat the dragon and acquire it, only to not be able to use it. I enjoyed playing as a Bard in BG2, even more than my usual choice of Fighter/Mage.
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Post by Bondari the Reloader on Nov 13, 2022 1:11:47 GMT
Bards are a poor's man Fighter-Mage multiclass and especially dual class, but it's hard to compete with the most powerful build in the game. Still, they are pretty damn powerful in BG2 onwards, they get good buffs like Stoneskin, Mirror Image, and Greater Invisibility, and can use many weapons. Haer'Dalis is a strong companion and a great off-tank option. Would also mention that the Bard comes into their own in Throne of Bhaal when you can take the class ability Use Any Item. This meant I was able to use the most powerful sword in the game, Carsomyr, that can usually only be used by a paladin, as well as some other class specific items that had previously been denied to me. If you are not playing a Paladin and don't want Keldorn in your party, which I didn't as he doesn't get on with Viconia, it is always rather frustrating to defeat the dragon and acquire it, only to not be able to use it. I enjoyed playing as a Bard in BG2, even more than my usual choice of Fighter/Mage. Sweet, I didn't know Use Any Item was in 2nd edition! I love that sword, but it's super frustrating that Keldorn is the only NPC who can wield it. (Hence why he's one of my party defaults.) This definitely opens up some new options for BG2! Thanks for the tips, everyone!
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Post by ApocAlypsE on Nov 23, 2022 16:51:10 GMT
I still think the strongest weapon setup you can go for is Flail of the Ages + Defender of Easthaven, but someone wielding Carsomyr can give a great boost to your party.
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Post by azarhal on Dec 16, 2022 20:09:14 GMT
Has anyone done an evil party PT of BG1/SoD/BG2?
I never have and since I'm thinking of replaying this I might try something I never tried before. Any suggestions or tips?
I'm thinking of playing a Fighter/Cleric half-elf or Blackguard (suck that it's limited to human).
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Post by Andraste_Reborn on Dec 17, 2022 5:28:54 GMT
Has anyone done an evil party PT of BG1/SoD/BG2? I never have and since I'm thinking of replaying this I might try something I never tried before. Any suggestions or tips? I'm thinking of playing a Fighter/Cleric half-elf or Blackguard (suck that it's limited to human). I have! The main difficulties are 1) everything is more expensive because of you low reputation and 2) you need to manage that reputation carefully to strike a balance between keeping your companions happy and becoming so despised that guards start attacking you on sight.
There used to be an issue where there weren't enough evil companions in BG2 to fill out an entire party, but if you're playing the Enhance Editions then Hexxat and Dorn round things out nicely. A party of Dorn, Korgan, Viconia, Hexxat and Edwin already has all the vital rolls covered so the PC can be anything you want. Fighter/Cleric is a very powerful option, although mine was a dwarf so I don't know how it plays with half-elf.
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Post by Bondari the Reloader on Dec 17, 2022 6:28:54 GMT
Has anyone done an evil party PT of BG1/SoD/BG2? I never have and since I'm thinking of replaying this I might try something I never tried before. Any suggestions or tips? I'm thinking of playing a Fighter/Cleric half-elf or Blackguard (suck that it's limited to human). I have! The main difficulties are 1) everything is more expensive because of you low reputation and 2) you need to manage that reputation carefully to strike a balance between keeping your companions happy and becoming so despised that guards start attacking you on sight.
There used to be an issue where there weren't enough evil companions in BG2 to fill out an entire party, but if you're playing the Enhance Editions then Hexxat and Dorn round things out nicely. A party of Dorn, Korgan, Viconia, Hexxat and Edwin already has all the vital rolls covered so the PC can be anything you want. Fighter/Cleric is a very powerful option, although mine was a dwarf so I don't know how it plays with half-elf.
I can confirm that you really want to be careful with the reputation, especially in BG1. I tried to introduce my husband to BG1, and he immediately tried stealing everything in sight (this is very easy in the Divinity games, not so much in 2nd edition D&D). Civilians got mad, so civilians got killed, and we literally could not go into any city without being attacked. We gave up by the time we got to Nashkell. So don't go too evil too soon. If you don't have the enhanced edition, you could probably get away with adding some of the neutral characters like Jaheira, Cernd, and Jan to round things out (even though Viconia and Edwin fill those roles pretty well). Maybe Anomen if he fails his test? (can't remember if he turns neutral or evil) And then there's Sarevok in ToB, of course. I've never been able to commit to a fully evil party, but the idea of adding him to my party is extremely intriguing.
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Post by azarhal on Dec 17, 2022 12:47:24 GMT
I have! The main difficulties are 1) everything is more expensive because of you low reputation and 2) you need to manage that reputation carefully to strike a balance between keeping your companions happy and becoming so despised that guards start attacking you on sight.
There used to be an issue where there weren't enough evil companions in BG2 to fill out an entire party, but if you're playing the Enhance Editions then Hexxat and Dorn round things out nicely. A party of Dorn, Korgan, Viconia, Hexxat and Edwin already has all the vital rolls covered so the PC can be anything you want. Fighter/Cleric is a very powerful option, although mine was a dwarf so I don't know how it plays with half-elf.
I can confirm that you really want to be careful with the reputation, especially in BG1. I tried to introduce my husband to BG1, and he immediately tried stealing everything in sight (this is very easy in the Divinity games, not so much in 2nd edition D&D). Civilians got mad, so civilians got killed, and we literally could not go into any city without being attacked. We gave up by the time we got to Nashkell. So don't go too evil too soon. If you don't have the enhanced edition, you could probably get away with adding some of the neutral characters like Jaheira, Cernd, and Jan to round things out (even though Viconia and Edwin fill those roles pretty well). Maybe Anomen if he fails his test? (can't remember if he turns neutral or evil) And then there's Sarevok in ToB, of course. I've never been able to commit to a fully evil party, but the idea of adding him to my party is extremely intriguing. If I steal things I try to not aggro NPCs. I'm Neutral Evil which is like the "self-preservation first" alignment. Anomen is Chaotic Neutral if he fails his test, depending how I can stand him (or others), I might add him. I'll have to increase reputation a bit before I add Dorn and Viconia in BG1. They both bring a reputation hit which might cause the party to fall into "possibility of spawning Flaming Fist" category really fast. I will probably end up with a "not amused" evil party either way since the reputation system is stupid. It's a fame meter more than a reputation one and some evil people might enjoy that everyone think they are heroic figures instead of selfish greedy assholes.
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Post by Absafraginlootly on Dec 17, 2022 22:40:24 GMT
From what i understand if you have viconia, dorn, and baeloth in you bg1 party you can do as many side quests as you want and never get a reputation higher than 14. Due to their respective permanent -2s. If your at risk of hitting reputation 5 or less then you can donate to a temple to raise it and thus avoid flaming fist pursuers. Have no advise for bg2 as i haven't gotten round to playing it even though I've owned it for ages 
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Post by Absafraginlootly on Feb 7, 2023 22:49:10 GMT
Are there any merchants in Baldur's gate who will buy my ankheg heads?
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Post by Andraste_Reborn on Feb 8, 2023 6:55:10 GMT
Are there any merchants in Baldur's gate who will buy my ankheg heads? I think you have to lug them all the way back to Beregost, unfortunately, and sell them to Taerom.
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Post by Absafraginlootly on Feb 8, 2023 7:24:58 GMT
Are there any merchants in Baldur's gate who will buy my ankheg heads? I think you have to lug them all the way back to Beregost, unfortunately, and sell them to Taerom. alas
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Post by Bondari the Reloader on Feb 9, 2023 4:52:28 GMT
I think you have to lug them all the way back to Beregost, unfortunately, and sell them to Taerom. alas They're so dang heavy, too! I'm pretty sure I've left a bunch of them scattered across the Sword Coast on this playthrough. My current party is a bit lacking in the Strength department (seriously, why in the Nine Hells does Viconia only have a Strength of 10?!?)
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Post by Absafraginlootly on Feb 9, 2023 5:48:17 GMT
They're so dang heavy, too! I'm pretty sure I've left a bunch of them scattered across the Sword Coast on this playthrough. My current party is a bit lacking in the Strength department (seriously, why in the Nine Hells does Viconia only have a Strength of 10?!?) aye i can only really afford to carry 2 around, but i don't feel like travelling all the way back to beregost just yet, nor carrying them the entire time I'm in Baldur's gate when i could be picking up other loot so I'll probably just dump them >.<
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Post by Absafraginlootly on Feb 12, 2023 23:39:55 GMT
I have made an error it seems 😆 I dualed imoen to mage at lvl 7 then promptly took evidence to Duke Eltan and got teleported to candle keep, now I'm in a catacomb that the npcs have suggested are full of traps - unfortunately imoen was the one with trap finding skills (my mage/thief has focused on lockpicking and sneaking).
My first instinct is to just lump it and keep going (possibly checking if any of my spells can help find traps), but it feels like the story might be getting close to the end? Will the game open up again if i proceed, giving me the chance to do the sidequests and maps i haven't done yet? Or will I go straight to the finale with imoen as a lvl 1 mage?
If the latter then it might be best to load an earlier save and drag my heels more before taking to Eltan 😙
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Post by Andraste_Reborn on Feb 13, 2023 2:29:09 GMT
I have made an error it seems 😆 I dualed imoen to mage at lvl 7 then promptly took evidence to Duke Eltan and got teleported to candle keep, now I'm in a catacomb that the npcs have suggested are full of traps - unfortunately imoen was the one with trap finding skills (my mage/thief has focused on lockpicking and sneaking). My first instinct is to just lump it and keep going (possibly checking if any of my spells can help find traps), but it feels like the story might be getting close to the end? Will the game open up again if i proceed, giving me the chance to do the sidequests and maps i haven't done yet? Or will I go straight to the finale with imoen as a lvl 1 mage? If the latter then it might be best to load an earlier save and drag my heels more before taking to Eltan 😙 If you have a Cleric with you, they can cast Find Traps. It's a level two spell. You definitely want to go carefully, there are some really nasty ones down there.
The game will absolutely open up again as soon as you open up the tombs, but completing quests within the city of Baldur's Gate itself can be tricky at that point. I usually go and do Ulgoth's Beard and its many quests after the catacombs, which would give you plenty of XP to get Imoen's thief level's back. (Stay away from Durlag's Tower until she can find traps again, though, because that place has the worst in the game.)
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Post by Absafraginlootly on Feb 13, 2023 2:49:09 GMT
I have made an error it seems 😆 I dualed imoen to mage at lvl 7 then promptly took evidence to Duke Eltan and got teleported to candle keep, now I'm in a catacomb that the npcs have suggested are full of traps - unfortunately imoen was the one with trap finding skills (my mage/thief has focused on lockpicking and sneaking). My first instinct is to just lump it and keep going (possibly checking if any of my spells can help find traps), but it feels like the story might be getting close to the end? Will the game open up again if i proceed, giving me the chance to do the sidequests and maps i haven't done yet? Or will I go straight to the finale with imoen as a lvl 1 mage? If the latter then it might be best to load an earlier save and drag my heels more before taking to Eltan 😙 If you have a Cleric with you, they can cast Find Traps. It's a level two spell. You definitely want to go carefully, there are some really nasty ones down there.
The game will absolutely open up again as soon as you open up the tombs, but completing quests within the city of Baldur's Gate itself can be tricky at that point. I usually go and do Ulgoth's Beard and its many quests after the catacombs, which would give you plenty of XP to get Imoen's thief level's back. (Stay away from Durlag's Tower until she can find traps again, though, because that place has the worst in the game.)
Great, I'll have Branwen prepare that and return to side content later  , thanks!
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Post by duskwanderer on Feb 22, 2023 2:02:50 GMT
Played through Baldur's Gate for cheevos, and man, that dialogue was really something else. The interactions with the characters, the plot beats. Even using repeated maps didn't dull how fun the story was to play.
"Jahiera, must you be so" "Bitchy?"
Some of the characters were one-note, but you could at least make up your own mind about them. The writers now demand you worship crap writing.
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Post by Absafraginlootly on Mar 2, 2023 22:46:25 GMT
Well I finally finished Baldur's gate! A very dangerous game for restart-itus. I think the combination of The npc project mod making the party no longer silent and the upcoming BG3 having some characters from the first 2 games in it motivated me over the line  Imoen's starting dialogue in Dragonspear is a little weird if you've already been dualing her to mage, I guess you could call it the start of her official education but I think it's more designed as a bridge between pure thief imoen in bg1 and dualed imoen in bg2. While I'm continuing my Illusionist/thief through SoD I'll also be playing a new character in bg2 in a multi player game with someone else who hasn't played it before either and who i intend on playing bg3 with.
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Post by ApocAlypsE on Apr 8, 2023 7:27:38 GMT
One hour of hardcore, no reload deaths by Davaeorn the Twitch streamer. Hilarious! Learned so much about BG1 to 2 from this guy, didn't have the balls to try Sword Coast Strategems though... I had a playthrough on Legacy of Bhaal though, it was a miserable experience.
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Post by Ieldra on May 5, 2023 8:15:52 GMT
I've finally gotten around to playing the Enhanced Editions. I have to say it is quite surprising how well those games still play after more than 20 years. In almost every single aspect there are now games which do things better, but as a complete package Bg2/TOB still plays in the top league. The new content is a mixed bag though. SoD's story is nice and fits well between the two main games, and its quests are also ok, but man, the character dialogues are really terrible at times. It seems as if the writers were unable to put themselves into the shoes of a variety of players and wrote on the implicit assumption everyone would play more or less like they envisioned it. That extends to most of the new companions, which also come across as one-dimensional. Not that the original characters were necessarily more complex overall (some were, but most weren't), but the new ones talk more, and thus it is more apparent they always talk about the same thing. Main character responses are also, most of the time, too specific to appeal to all but a very small subsete of players I assume. The new companions also tend to be annoying on an unprecedented level. Sorry Neera, I really wanted to like you, but as weird as it may sound, I actually prefer Edwin's company to yours. His arrogance, as grating as it may be at times, at least demands nothing of me I am not prepared to give.
Having said that, I am now doing a second PT of the EEs (didn't yet finish the first one but there you are) with a Fighter->Mage, which, oddly enough, I never played before in spite of the many times I played these games, and I'm wondering which weapon I should specialize in when starting out in BG1. Katana seems the obvious choice because of Dak'kon's blade, but there are no good katanas in BG1 where I'll spend all of my early Fighter levels, and most likely that blade won't be much use as a secondary weapon since its special ability requires you keep it active all the time. Scimitars for Belm and Water's Edge, same problem IIRC. Longwords, opposite problem, the selection in SoA is extremely limited. As opposed to axes, of which again, there aren't any good ones in BG1. So...any recommendations? I prefer one-handed weapons since it's too valuable to be able to wield an additional item in the shield slot. I'd be willing to install mods for interesting weapons as long as they're not so grossly overpowered as to overshadow the original content.
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Post by Bondari the Reloader on May 7, 2023 0:01:30 GMT
I've finally gotten around to playing the Enhanced Editions. I have to say it is quite surprising how well those games still play after more than 20 years. In almost every single aspect there are now games which do things better, but as a complete package Bg2/TOB still plays in the top league. The new content is a mixed bag though. SoD's story is nice and fits well between the two main games, and its quests are also ok, but man, the character dialogues are really terrible at times. It seems as if the writers were unable to put themselves into the shoes of a variety of players and wrote on the implicit assumption everyone would play more or less like they envisioned it. That extends to most of the new companions, which also come across as one-dimensional. Not that the original characters were necessarily more complex overall (some were, but most weren't), but the new ones talk more, and thus it is more apparent they always talk about the same thing. Main character responses are also, most of the time, too specific to appeal to all but a very small subsete of players I assume. The new companions also tend to be annoying on an unprecedented level. Sorry Neera, I really wanted to like you, but as weird as it may sound, I actually prefer Edwin's company to yours. His arrogance, as grating as it may be at times, at least demands nothing of me I am not prepared to give. Having said that, I am now doing a second PT of the EEs (didn't yet finish the first one but there you are) with a Fighter->Mage, which, oddly enough, I never played before in spite of the many times I played these games, and I'm wondering which weapon I should specialize in when starting out in BG1. Katana seems the obvious choice because of Dak'kon's blade, but there are no good katanas in BG1 where I'll spend all of my early Fighter levels, and most likely that blade won't be much use as a secondary weapon since its special ability requires you keep it active all the time. Scimitars for Belm and Water's Edge, same problem IIRC. Longwords, opposite problem, the selection in SoA is extremely limited. As opposed to axes, of which again, there aren't any good ones in BG1. So...any recommendations? I prefer one-handed weapons since it's too valuable to be able to wield an additional item in the shield slot. I'd be willing to install mods for interesting weapons as long as they're not so grossly overpowered as to overshadow the original content. I gave up on the EEs pretty quickly. The new companions, as you mentioned, are extremely irritating, and I didn't like the AI auto-casting spells for the NPCs. I bought the EEs on GOG.com because they also come with the original games, and I got sucked right back in! The magic weapon selection in BG1 is pretty limited, which makes sense since you're so low level, but is also kind of lame since 2nd Edition D&D warriors don't have a ton of special abilities. Off the top of my head, I can think of a couple of magic longswords, the spider two-handed sword in the Cloakwood forest, and a war hammer that does lightning damage. I'm biased against axes because I played a fighter who specialized in axes and found out that even with the upgraded Axe of the Unyielding in TOB I couldn't hit Melissan. (though that might have been an Ascension mod problem, not an axe problem; I never tried it again without the mod to confirm) Since you prefer one-handed, maybe give war hammers a try? Otherwise I think longswords will be your best bet if you want magic weapons in BG1. Best of luck! 
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Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights
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Post by Bondari the Reloader on Aug 14, 2023 19:05:03 GMT
I finally finished my bard playthrough of BG1! I didn't make much use of my bardiness except to cast Mirror Image on myself before fights, but hey, that was different! Getting ready to jump into BG2 soon. Should I go Blade or Skald for my subclass? PC has been an archer so far, but it looks like I'd want to switch to two-weapon fighting if I go Blade.
Also, does the Ascension mod play nice with the GOG download of the non-EEs? The final battle is a pain, but I love the enhanced story beats it includes.
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