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Post by ticktak77 on Mar 29, 2017 18:39:13 GMT
If they leave on their own, it's not exile. I promise you, it's not a complicated concept. What I've been trying to tell you is, as the game tells you in journals and codexes, as the people in the game tells you, they were exiled. Why you for some reason choose to completely ignore that, I don't know. The krogan won the fight, and the remaining survivors of the uprising got exiled by the AI leaders.
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Post by ymirr on Mar 29, 2017 18:41:12 GMT
What I've been trying to tell you is, as the game tells you in journals and codexes, as the people in the game tells you, they were exiled. Why you for some reason choose to completely ignore that, I don't know. The krogan won the fight, and the remaining survivors of the uprising got exiled by the AI leaders. Because. Not. Everyone. Who. Left. Was. Exiled. Some. People. Chose. To. Leave. Just. Because. """Anyone leaving after that point could have various reasons in which one could only guess by the info the game gives. Split families, resources stretched thin, loss of the leaders you joined the AI for replaced with inadequate people.""" "just because"
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Post by ticktak77 on Mar 29, 2017 18:44:52 GMT
Because. Not. Everyone. Who. Left. Was. Exiled. Some. People. Chose. To. Leave. Just. Because. """Anyone leaving after that point could have various reasons in which one could only guess by the info the game gives. Split families, resources stretched thin, loss of the leaders you joined the AI for replaced with inadequate people.""" "just because" K
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Post by colfoley on Mar 29, 2017 18:53:11 GMT
It's a single cluster. I believe...of all the clusters we've been to...that there was only one cluster in the OT with more then one species in it.
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Post by jastall on Mar 29, 2017 19:07:17 GMT
"I'm going to leave this fully self-sufficient, safe, and organized space station, in a galaxy we know nothing about, because my feelings were hurt". Sorry. That doesn't make any sense. The nexus was barely self-sufficient when Ryder first arrives, it was collapsing and numerous times it's mentioned that they were having a hard time just running the thing because of a lack of resources. I didn't buy into at first but it makes sense when you look at the context of it. Would you rather die hold up in a station that's going to break apart eventually or settle kadarra and make your own life free from director tann? Can't believe I'm agreeing with Dutch, but this. The competent Nexus leadership was killed off and the one remaining in charge is a bean counter with the charisma of a wet spoon, assisted by people who can barely resist punching him in the face. The Nexus is adrift, colonization efforts have failed miserably, the Arks are nowhere to be seen, there's not enough resources for everyone who's awake, the promised Golden Worlds are wastelands, there's killer robots and shooty aliens everywhere, some evil space cloud that fries everything, little power, the whole situation is a total shitshow, the only departments that seem to remotely work are Engineering and APEX. Leaving might not be the best idea, but it's certainly understandable. To say nothing of the fact they've possibly lived in relative darkness for months on end, without the extra juice provided by Hyperion. It's the sort of thing that does affect your mood a whole lot. What makes slightly less sense is just how many suicidal outlaws you can cut down on Kadara without a second thought, the sheer number of Exiles is a bit nuts and with how limited the Milky Way colonists's numbers are, they need every body they can get. But the fact that there are some of them is reasonable, if not expected given how disastrous the Initiative has been until Ryder shows up.
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Post by Eterna on Mar 29, 2017 19:16:46 GMT
What I've been trying to tell you is, as the game tells you in journals and codexes, as the people in the game tells you, they were exiled. Why you for some reason choose to completely ignore that, I don't know. The krogan won the fight, and the remaining survivors of the uprising got exiled by the AI leaders. Because. Not. Everyone. Who. Left. Was. Exiled. Some. People. Chose. To. Leave. Just. Because. It is not "Just because" you just don't find their reasons sufficient. And for the love of god, stop being so bloody patronizing.
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Post by suikoden on Mar 29, 2017 19:25:57 GMT
The lack of species is explained later on in the game too. The kett having an empire spanning multiple clusters and incorporating other species DNA into their own + exterminating the unwilling.
It's actually rather neatly explained. It's also incredibly boring. So much potential in these new worlds, and instead BioWare rehashes stories they've already done - only with tumblr dialogue.
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Post by dlaren on Mar 30, 2017 1:02:05 GMT
FYI
According to the Nexus Uprising novel, the exiles chose to leave the Nexus because it was either that or be put back into cryo-sleep.
The novel is 37 chapters long, so the reader is made keenly aware of all of the issues that the Nexus crew faced; and how even though they were consuming food faster than they could grow it and running out of water, no one wanted to be put back to sleep...plus all of the "Golden Worlds" were a bust.
Leadership wanted everyone to go back to sleep and wait in cryo-stasis with the hope that the Pathfinders would show-up and find everyone a home -- others wanted to abandon the mission and take their lives into their own hands...thus the 'uprising'.
Once the rebellion was put-down, Tann gave the rebels two options: go back to sleep until we decide to wake you (if they ever decided to wake them) or become exiles...I would have chosen exile too.
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Post by dutchsghost7 on Mar 30, 2017 2:10:54 GMT
The nexus was barely self-sufficient when Ryder first arrives, it was collapsing and numerous times it's mentioned that they were having a hard time just running the thing because of a lack of resources. I didn't buy into at first but it makes sense when you look at the context of it. Would you rather die hold up in a station that's going to break apart eventually or settle kadarra and make your own life free from director tann? Can't believe I'm agreeing with Dutch, but this. The competent Nexus leadership was killed off and the one remaining in charge is a bean counter with the charisma of a wet spoon, assisted by people who can barely resist punching him in the face. The Nexus is adrift, colonization efforts have failed miserably, the Arks are nowhere to be seen, there's not enough resources for everyone who's awake, the promised Golden Worlds are wastelands, there's killer robots and shooty aliens everywhere, some evil space cloud that fries everything, little power, the whole situation is a total shitshow, the only departments that seem to remotely work are Engineering and APEX. Leaving might not be the best idea, but it's certainly understandable. To say nothing of the fact they've possibly lived in relative darkness for months on end, without the extra juice provided by Hyperion. It's the sort of thing that does affect your mood a whole lot. What makes slightly less sense is just how many suicidal outlaws you can cut down on Kadara without a second thought, the sheer number of Exiles is a bit nuts and with how limited the Milky Way colonists's numbers are, they need every body they can get. But the fact that there are some of them is reasonable, if not expected given how disastrous the Initiative has been until Ryder shows up. I can buy exiles becoming independent from Tann and the nexus but still can't buy into the Raiders thing. Seems painfully stupid and shortsighted frankly. They shoot you on sight without warning, I mean come on Bioware...
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Post by roseofquartz on Mar 30, 2017 2:34:29 GMT
Actually it makes sense that people would leave the initiative to become exiles or raiders if you listened to the conversations of pretty much anyone on the nexus. "I'm going to leave this fully self-sufficient, safe, and organized space station, in a galaxy we know nothing about, because my feelings were hurt". Sorry. That doesn't make any sense. I thought a lot of them didn't leave by choice, Tann used the Krogan to force them out.
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on Mar 30, 2017 3:11:00 GMT
"I'm going to leave this fully self-sufficient, safe, and organized space station, in a galaxy we know nothing about, because my feelings were hurt". Sorry. That doesn't make any sense. The nexus was barely self-sufficient when Ryder first arrives, it was collapsing and numerous times it's mentioned that they were having a hard time just running the thing because of a lack of resources. I didn't buy into at first but it makes sense when you look at the context of it. Would you rather die hold up in a station that's going to break apart eventually or settle kadarra and make your own life free from director tann? Nice post. Good point.
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Post by jastall on Mar 30, 2017 3:28:01 GMT
Can't believe I'm agreeing with Dutch, but this. The competent Nexus leadership was killed off and the one remaining in charge is a bean counter with the charisma of a wet spoon, assisted by people who can barely resist punching him in the face. The Nexus is adrift, colonization efforts have failed miserably, the Arks are nowhere to be seen, there's not enough resources for everyone who's awake, the promised Golden Worlds are wastelands, there's killer robots and shooty aliens everywhere, some evil space cloud that fries everything, little power, the whole situation is a total shitshow, the only departments that seem to remotely work are Engineering and APEX. Leaving might not be the best idea, but it's certainly understandable. To say nothing of the fact they've possibly lived in relative darkness for months on end, without the extra juice provided by Hyperion. It's the sort of thing that does affect your mood a whole lot. What makes slightly less sense is just how many suicidal outlaws you can cut down on Kadara without a second thought, the sheer number of Exiles is a bit nuts and with how limited the Milky Way colonists's numbers are, they need every body they can get. But the fact that there are some of them is reasonable, if not expected given how disastrous the Initiative has been until Ryder shows up. I can buy exiles becoming independent from Tann and the nexus but still can't buy into the Raiders thing. Seems painfully stupid and shortsighted frankly. They shoot you on sight without warning, I mean come on Bioware... Yeah, this is the usual video game problem of overly aggressive bandits, happens all the time. It's just more conspicuous in Andromeda since said bandits are supposedly drawn from a pretty small pool of people who aren't supposed to be suicidal. Desperate, but not to the point of fighting to the death and shooting on sight.
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Post by adrynbliss on Mar 30, 2017 3:42:11 GMT
there's an in game explanation for why the majority are psychos long term cryo can cause neural decay, which creates a chemical imbalance in the brain, people feel great but become more aggressive and violent. it's alluded to why the uprising happened.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Mar 30, 2017 4:30:55 GMT
Exactly, you would think that the Nexus would be the safe haven for all people from the milky way. A place that wouldn't have half as many conflicts as the game portrays. You spend at least 10hrs of gameplay just fixing sabotaging systems or keeping supplies from cryo-chambers from being stolen. Yep. Or, with all those people stuck in space under desperate times, tension would surely be somewhat natural. But for people to actively leave the Nexus? That just sounds.... stupid. Were there no screening processes to ensure that the Initiative didn't bring along nutjobs and psychos with them? Was there no plan in place for civil disobedience that would have prevented things like the Uprising? The problem with Andromeda is that so much of the early game is so heavily contrived, that it effects the writing moving forward. I don't own the game.. so maybe this is answered already. does it make sense in context that the exiles managed to find a habitable world, Kadara, yet ghe Nexus hasnt jumped at the chance to colonise it? I mean if we found Earth, with no population, and set up one city in Asia, then someone else settled in Norht America, we'd likely never see each other.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Mar 30, 2017 6:19:34 GMT
there's an in game explanation for why the majority are psychos long term cryo can cause neural decay, which creates a chemical imbalance in the brain, people feel great but become more aggressive and violent. it's alluded to why the uprising happened. Really? How convenient, lol. The level of contrivance is unrivaled. What a shitfest.
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Post by Karin Davis on Mar 30, 2017 6:21:26 GMT
Actually it makes sense that people would leave the initiative to become exiles or raiders if you listened to the conversations of pretty much anyone on the nexus. "I'm going to leave this fully self-sufficient, safe, and organized space station, in a galaxy we know nothing about, because my feelings were hurt". Sorry. That doesn't make any sense. I don't get it, pride makes anyone do stupid and/or silly things. Not everyone fits in this boat exactly, but in a galaxy far away... 600 years into your own future, and everyone behind is gone... I doubt anyone cares about who they make friends with at this point. Age of exploration not social media.
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Post by CTPhipps on Mar 30, 2017 6:23:28 GMT
Guys, some of this is just silly.
Why did they leave the Nexus?
BECAUSE A BUNCH OF KROGAN JUST MURDERED HALF OF THEM.
The survivors were not welcome.
Also, you recall the Nexus was actually unable to keep the LIGHTS ON, right? I mean, everyone seems to have completely forgotten the whole point of the first part of the game wasn't, "Our plucky happy adventure" but "WE ARE DYING IN SPACE." The Pathfinder does everything because there are no resources and almost all the soldiers joined the Resistance.
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Post by adrynbliss on Mar 30, 2017 6:40:38 GMT
there's an in game explanation for why the majority are psychos long term cryo can cause neural decay, which creates a chemical imbalance in the brain, people feel great but become more aggressive and violent. it's alluded to why the uprising happened. Really? How convenient, lol. The level of contrivance is unrivaled. What a shitfest. so what? damned if they do and damned if they don't. first it's there's no explanation it's lazy then when pointed out there is an explanation and ironically people were too lazy to find it it's a contrivance. Bio can't win the game if people keep moving the goal posts
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Post by CTPhipps on Mar 30, 2017 6:42:27 GMT
Wait, wouldn't YOU join the Outcasts?
Tann is the leader. Addison is the second in command. No power. No food. No Arks. No colonies. Hostile aliens. Everyone dying.
I'd straight up murder Tann and look for somewhere to settle pronto because the current strategy of "waiting for things to get better" he has is insane and stupid.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Mar 30, 2017 6:51:33 GMT
Really? How convenient, lol. The level of contrivance is unrivaled. What a shitfest. so what? damned if they do and damned if they don't. first it's there's no explanation it's lazy then when pointed out there is an explanation and ironically people were too lazy to find it it's a contrivance. Bio can't win the game if people keep moving the goal posts Moving the goalposts? Have you heard of internal consistency in writing? What about logical consistency? Are you aware of the effect consistency (or lack thereof) has on immersion and suspension of disbelief? Just wow.
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Post by disi on Mar 30, 2017 7:11:08 GMT
Isnt it kind of a waste of potential to base 75% of all quests around the very same people you brought with you? Most of the enemies you fight are either Kett/rem or milky way races. So all in all you only met 2 new races in the entire game plot.......4 worlds and only 2 races met. Everyone else is there to ruin and jeopardize the expedition. How did they pick people for this like wtf......... Abso-fracking-lutely. The rather contrived "Nexus uprising" is a convenient way to explain how "some people that came here are now bad people" It seems very strange that you, as Pathfinder, have to deal with everyone's shit though. You aren't Shepard. You don't have Spectre status to go beyond the law. You don't have a hero's reputation that can influence people. You are just a man who's father died and now you've inherited his role as lead explorer. It's silly, and breaks the narrative, that you are still being asked to do explorer quests, and combat quests, and collectathon quests, etc. Too many quests in this game, you receive, and the first thing you think about is.. "why me? I'm not even remotely suited to being the best person on the Nexus to do this" Many of the early quests are RIGHT UP Kandros' ally (some you even need to go speak to him get permission to DO HIS JOB FOR HIM!? Wtff) What? I seem to play a different game. Everyone on the Nexus was waiting over a year for the first pathfinder to arrive, there were failed attempts to establish outposts themselves. Those failed attempts were destroyed by the Kett. Now I arrived as their military grade explorer and I do not accept any orders from the 'council'. When Tann said something like: "Pathfinder you are allowed to go to other planets and establish outposts", was the first time I acted a bit emotional and said "I didn't ask for your permission." With that first murder, he actual states he would have a say in it, like a grey warden. (but I cannot have traitors around) With SAM, I am kinetic enhanced, can directly translate languages, can collect any data and make connections, have biotic powers (another implant), have a tank, have my own military vessel to explore and attack enemy outposts, have a team of combat experienced soldiers and gathering more it seems. Kett are the enemy and so is everyone in the way. I just wish they wouldn't respawn so often... I dismiss all the social opera of the game, though. Not interested in any of the NPC so far. Liam and Vetra maybe and that grandfather of Kesh. Don't be misguided by all those ironic statements from Scott Ryder, like: "It's a shame we had to kill them.", "I feel sorry for destroying...", "It makes me sad..." With our first military outpost on Eos, I am looking forward talking to Kandros. This is how far I played the game...
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Post by neoiceman on Mar 30, 2017 7:21:01 GMT
It makes a lot of sense to leave the Nexus, I probably would have too regardless if I was involved with the rebellion or not. Once the rebellion happened most of the security forces was gone, and you was left on a vulnerable station in a hostile environment with no resources or protection. It makes sense when you explain it that way. The game doesn't really ever try to explain it that way, nor back up its explanation with meaningful NPC content. Wow thats wow yet i get it why people say its an bad game and not so good like the trilogy. Everything is explained in this game, you only have to read all you find and hear people out. And the Nexus is not an safe heaven, it should be after the Arches arrive and share material and energie with the station but the human arche are the first arrive and the others gone missing. The next point someone mentioned that the AI only had the best of the best, wtf, asking Ryes on Kadara why he joined he answerd "i dont wanted to be an nobody anymore!" or the Ex-Ceberus Workers and other examples. What the hell is wrong with you guys, did anybody is interested in the story or is whining about how bad all is better?
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Post by solustein on Mar 30, 2017 8:13:23 GMT
The nexus was barely self-sufficient when Ryder first arrives, it was collapsing and numerous times it's mentioned that they were having a hard time just running the thing because of a lack of resources. I didn't buy into at first but it makes sense when you look at the context of it. Would you rather die hold up in a station that's going to break apart eventually or settle kadarra and make your own life free from director tann? Can't believe I'm agreeing with Dutch, but this. The competent Nexus leadership was killed off and the one remaining in charge is a bean counter with the charisma of a wet spoon, assisted by people who can barely resist punching him in the face. The Nexus is adrift, colonization efforts have failed miserably, the Arks are nowhere to be seen, there's not enough resources for everyone who's awake, the promised Golden Worlds are wastelands, there's killer robots and shooty aliens everywhere, some evil space cloud that fries everything, little power, the whole situation is a total shitshow, the only departments that seem to remotely work are Engineering and APEX. Leaving might not be the best idea, but it's certainly understandable. To say nothing of the fact they've possibly lived in relative darkness for months on end, without the extra juice provided by Hyperion. It's the sort of thing that does affect your mood a whole lot. What makes slightly less sense is just how many suicidal outlaws you can cut down on Kadara without a second thought, the sheer number of Exiles is a bit nuts and with how limited the Milky Way colonists's numbers are, they need every body they can get. But the fact that there are some of them is reasonable, if not expected given how disastrous the Initiative has been until Ryder shows up. Hold up, why would they attempt to colonize? with what people do they plan to colonize with? they had a skeleton crew designed to complete the station, nothing more & nothing less. They did not have resources or man power to colonize. If it the term skeleton crew is true to its name....
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Post by ticktak77 on Mar 30, 2017 17:20:36 GMT
Yep. Or, with all those people stuck in space under desperate times, tension would surely be somewhat natural. But for people to actively leave the Nexus? That just sounds.... stupid. Were there no screening processes to ensure that the Initiative didn't bring along nutjobs and psychos with them? Was there no plan in place for civil disobedience that would have prevented things like the Uprising? The problem with Andromeda is that so much of the early game is so heavily contrived, that it effects the writing moving forward. I don't own the game.. so maybe this is answered already. does it make sense in context that the exiles managed to find a habitable world, Kadara, yet ghe Nexus hasnt jumped at the chance to colonise it? I mean if we found Earth, with no population, and set up one city in Asia, then someone else settled in Norht America, we'd likely never see each other.
This is the sort of context that the game doesn't really give. It would totally make sense, and there's a list of motivations that would make sense. the game doesn't really do much to try providing enough though.
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Post by peligrad on Mar 30, 2017 18:57:01 GMT
Yeah the story line was incredibly weak, IMO.
It would have been much better if "Scavengers" just didn't exist. At least not in the volumes that you see. If you want one or two cells of "criminal" types that sneak off and do their own thing, fine. But not this mass scale exodus from the Nexus that was observed where you have hostile "Exiles" every 50 feet on every planet you explore. That's just dumb.
I guess the only thing that slightly makes sense is that all the strong leadership died. But even still, having full scale faction wars when you are being actively hunted and exterminated by a stronger alien enemy is just stupid and unrealistic. It's not hard to figure out that surviving depends on unity. You can overlook any differences if survival is on the line. History will show you that time and time again.
It would have been much better if one of the Arks was captured and all the inhabitants were exalted and the scavenger units were just turned into Kett units.
The diversity of enemies was extremely weak as well. There were only 16 types of enemies in the whole game. Of those 16, 6 of them are just red bar trash mobs that are basically reskin'd clones of 2 enemies (each faction has a basic melee unit and ranged unit). Each faction had one or two "medium enemies" and one or two "ultra" enemies. Of the ultra enemies, the only ones that seemed to have much effort put into them at all were the Ascendants. The rest were like "Just give them huge armored hp bars and some guns or melee attacks, they'll be hard because biotics can barely scratch them and the player will run out of bullets".
The ending was disappointing. It lacked gravity and consequence. The choices you made and the thoroughness of the play-through seemed to have minimal effect on the conclusion. You can tell everything was just set up to fit nicely into a DLC coming soon.
I still liked the game. But it was a massive step in the wrong direction compared to the rest of the ME series.
I will give a shout-out for the new "build-your-own class" system. That was well done IMO. The R&D weapon crafting system was also very good. No complaints on the diversity of skills or weapons or character customization.
I just wish that I could take my tuned-up Ryder against a more diverse and interesting set of enemies and have those enemies be someone that it actually makes sense to shoot.
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