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Post by smilesja on Apr 4, 2017 5:44:35 GMT
You really believe that?! You're right you should try to understand them instead of being judgmental like Joe is. AND the snowflakes enter. If someone has a different opinion they are "guilting" people and "judgmental". Grow up smilesia. ShadowAngel is logical and has a well thought out point of view which he articulated respectfully. Deal with it. And while you're dealing with it you have my permission to google "articulated".
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Post by Estaq99 on Apr 4, 2017 5:48:51 GMT
A 6 is quite reasonable and I've said a week before I expected him to give it a 6-7, maybe even a 5, I know this dude. I also agree with his point on people giving it an 8,9, or 10 as you're then downplaying the issues it has. It's fine to like the game, I do, but 8-10 means a good-great game, and I don't see Andromeda like that, it's an ok game, not good, not great, and it's not bad either.Please, this is starting to become ridiculous. What makes you think that giving a score like that is downplaying its issues? Stop trying to guilt people into having favorable views on the game. In your latest posts, you are sounding more and more as if you were having a mental melt down. Why could it become ridiculous if people may just have a totally different opinion about the game than the one you have?
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Post by panzerwzh on Apr 4, 2017 5:50:25 GMT
AND the snowflakes enter. If someone has a different opinion they are "guilting" people and "judgmental". Grow up smilesia. ShadowAngel is logical and has a well thought out point of view which he articulated respectfully. Deal with it. And while you're dealing with it you have my permission to google "articulated". Now you're just being rude.
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Post by smilesja on Apr 4, 2017 5:51:30 GMT
Please, this is starting to become ridiculous. What makes you think that giving a score like that is downplaying its issues? Stop trying to guilt people into having favorable views on the game. In your latest posts, you are sounding more and more as if you were having a mental melt down. Why could it become ridiculous if people may just have a totally different opinion about the game than the one you have? Do you even get what I'm saying? It's fine that you have a different opinion. The problem is when people start flaming others for having different opinions.
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Post by smilesja on Apr 4, 2017 5:52:23 GMT
Now you're just being rude. Nah, her post was pretty funny.
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Post by panzerwzh on Apr 4, 2017 5:54:36 GMT
Now you're just being rude. Nah, her post was pretty funny. Just your post is pretty rude.
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Post by smilesja on Apr 4, 2017 5:58:28 GMT
Nah, her post was pretty funny. Just your post is pretty rude. But being called a snowflake and saying that I need to "grow up" is not rude? I would gladly engage with her if she didn't resort to that. A I do respect ShadowAngel's opinion on the game. His comment on the people who feel that ME: A is a good was something I disagree with.
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Post by panzerwzh on Apr 4, 2017 6:02:42 GMT
Just your post is pretty rude. But being called a snowflake and saying that I need to "grow up" is not rude? I would gladly engage with her if she didn't resort to that. A I do respect ShadowAngel's opinion on the game. His comment on the people who feel that ME: A is a good was something I disagree with. GROW UP!
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Post by smilesja on Apr 4, 2017 6:04:11 GMT
But being called a snowflake and saying that I need to "grow up" is not rude? I would gladly engage with her if she didn't resort to that. A I do respect ShadowAngel's opinion on the game. His comment on the people who feel that ME: A is a good was something I disagree with. GROW UP! So you don't have anything to say?
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Post by suikoden on Apr 4, 2017 6:35:58 GMT
So you don't have anything to say?
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Post by lyrim on Apr 4, 2017 8:18:49 GMT
I came here to give my opinion, but seeing the cancer that this has devolved into, I'll take it elsewhere...
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Post by goishen on Apr 4, 2017 11:59:42 GMT
So you don't have anything to say? I think that he said what he's gonna say to you.
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Post by stysiaq on Apr 4, 2017 12:01:37 GMT
I came here to give my opinion, but seeing the cancer that this has devolved into, I'll take it elsewhere... likewise.
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Post by Aren on Apr 4, 2017 12:12:23 GMT
I've never been a fan of the series even though I have all three games from the previous trilogy which I had bought for my sister who really liked it (including the 3rd Mass Effect). Andromeda however was overall a disappointment,way too many serious graphical glitches,an average plot, fetch quests in abundance and mediocre dialogues. I don't believe I will buy it despite the quick decrease of it's price(it's already at-24%)
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Post by Arcian on Apr 4, 2017 15:39:35 GMT
In your latest posts, you are sounding more and more as if you were having a mental melt down. Why could it become ridiculous if people may just have a totally different opinion about the game than the one you have? Do you even get what I'm saying? It's fine that you have a different opinion. The problem is when people start flaming others for having different opinions.
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Post by ShadowAngel on Apr 4, 2017 16:26:17 GMT
Just your post is pretty rude. But being called a snowflake and saying that I need to "grow up" is not rude? I would gladly engage with her if she didn't resort to that. A I do respect ShadowAngel's opinion on the game. His comment on the people who feel that ME: A is a good was something I disagree with. What exactly bothered you? I don't have an issue if people like the game, I don't like people going around saying people exaggerate bugs or the animations issues and then say they're not a big deal. That's downplaying the issue at that point, plus they're then deciding what is and isn't worth bringing up to bioware. Should they not try to fix this stuff in a 2017 game with better tech than 5 years ago? The bulk of my point nt was people are crazy to give the game a 10 point rating or even a 9, as they're then downplaying the issues just as someone giving it a 2 isn't giving enough credit. When games get 9s or 10s they're generally good technical wise, have a strong narrative, had addicting gameplay, has interesting characters, etc etc. while it is subjective on these matters, I'm still going to think someone is crazy for thinking the game is that high quality. It's a good game, but a 9? Especially a 10? that leads me to believe they're ignoring the issues it carries. furthermore I'm not begrudging them or condemning them thinking that way. If they want to put it up that high fine, I'm still going to question it, ask for people to elaborate as to why, and even then I may still not agree with it. I ultimately don't mind what people score the game, what I more or less care about is people recognizing the issues themselves without downplaying them. "I'm going to ignore anyone who brings up the animations" is an issue to me, especially when their are people that get their immersion ruined by it. It's hard to take characters seriously if their face is boring, or when their body goes absolutely insane (reference to sloane in the video). The voice acting is quite good, but it doesn't mesh with the expressions the characters give. It's also an issue when people say "I'm not experiencing these bugs". People need to remember there's various people playing, bugs will occur differently and in different circumstances. I may not experience them much (I actually do), but it doesn't mean someone else isn't. There's issues of saves going currupt, that alone is game breaking, especially if you're not thinking ahead and didn't make backup saves. No one wants to go back and replay 60+ hours to get right back to where they were. what I'm really saying is I want people to be realistic, acknowledge the issues, even if they're not your own priorities, I also want people to acknowledge what it does right, even if they dislike the game. What people score the game really isn't the main issue but it does correlate to my point. There just needs to be a "universal" perspective on what is good/bad/needs work, etc etc. that's how you find the things that need worked on. People say judging a story can't be objectively proven, but you can get the majority to pick a side and hobby that. Do they find issues with bugs? Do they find issues with the animations? The story? The UI? Manother thing that needs to stop is using reviews to back up a stance as it then leads to double standards. I can find people who only support the reviews that put Andromeda up high but dislike the ones putting it lower, and vice versa. The issue with that is people then use it to fit their agenda rather than being open minded on it. There are some reviews that were pretty much calling Andromeda a mediocre game, but they had reasons I could agree with fir that conclusion, there are then some that put it up high saying it's better than other games out there, I could also agree with some of those conclusions so long as they had reasons. Nature of gaming is odds are people will have issues with criticism on something they like and then there will be issues where there are people supporting something that another doesn't like. It's why there's this "fanboy/hater" rift that literally happens with every game out there. I've seen people get called bungie militia, biodrones, 343 fanboys, bungie purists, etc etc. it's quite ridiculous people will come up with new names over disagreements.
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Post by ticktak77 on Apr 4, 2017 17:03:09 GMT
What the hell happened to this thread lol?
Anyway, bringing it back on topic regarding Joe's review.
One thing that he said to me that really struck me - this is, for all intents and purposes, Mass Effect "4".
And, beyond combat and some visuals, it really doesn't improve on the original 3 in any meaningful way.
That's.... very disappointing.
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Post by kingmandu on Apr 4, 2017 18:14:58 GMT
What the hell happened to this thread lol? Anyway, bringing it back on topic regarding Joe's review. One thing that he said to me that really struck me - this is, for all intents and purposes, Mass Effect "4". And, beyond combat and some visuals, it really doesn't improve on the original 3 in any meaningful way. That's.... very disappointing. It does improve on ME3 in a lot of ways. Your squad is more active, the ending isn't incomplete/wasn't hastily written at the tail end of development, it actually has controller support on PC, no overhearing conversations from random npcs for quests, actual exploration, no galactic readiness bullshit tied to mp, no DLC needed to make up for the ending, no stupid kid....I could go on and on because ME3 is the worst in the trilogy by far. Lol at Joe calling out other reviewer's credibility. I love ya Joe but come on man...you work in the least credible critical field of any hobby.
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Post by ticktak77 on Apr 4, 2017 18:20:05 GMT
What the hell happened to this thread lol? Anyway, bringing it back on topic regarding Joe's review. One thing that he said to me that really struck me - this is, for all intents and purposes, Mass Effect "4". And, beyond combat and some visuals, it really doesn't improve on the original 3 in any meaningful way. That's.... very disappointing. It does improve on ME3 in a lot of ways. Your squad is more active, the ending isn't incomplete/wasn't hastily written at the tail end of development, it actually has controller support on PC, n o overhearing conversations from random npcs for quests, actual exploration, no galactic readiness bullshit tied to mp, no DLC needed to make up for the ending, no stupid kid....I could go on and on because ME3 is the worst in the trilogy by far. Lol at Joe calling out other reviewer's credibility. I love ya Joe but come on man...you work in the least credible critical field of any hobby. ........when's the last time you actually visited the Nexus? The conversation bleed in this game is awful. The ending of ME3 was crap, but how many story beats were so rewarding in ME3? Rannoch, Tuchanka, the story with the quarians and the geth? So much of it was so well written. Beyond the FAMILY HISTORY quest, the writing in this game doesn't come anywhere close. And you are right - instead of ME3's hastily written ending, Andromeda's entire game feels hastily written.
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Post by ShadowAngel on Apr 4, 2017 18:46:46 GMT
What the hell happened to this thread lol? Anyway, bringing it back on topic regarding Joe's review. One thing that he said to me that really struck me - this is, for all intents and purposes, Mass Effect "4". And, beyond combat and some visuals, it really doesn't improve on the original 3 in any meaningful way. That's.... very disappointing. I don't see how it's "4" when it's not a direct sequel to Shepards story and shares no ties at all besides being in the same universe. It's a spin-off, bioware even said the same thing.
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Post by suikoden on Apr 4, 2017 18:52:33 GMT
What the hell happened to this thread lol? Anyway, bringing it back on topic regarding Joe's review. One thing that he said to me that really struck me - this is, for all intents and purposes, Mass Effect "4". And, beyond combat and some visuals, it really doesn't improve on the original 3 in any meaningful way. That's.... very disappointing. I don't see how it's "4" when it's not a direct sequel to Shepards story and shares no ties at all besides being in the same universe. It's a spin-off, bioware even said the same thing. Then they shouldn't have slapped MASS EFFECT on the cover and just called it Andromeda, but then they wouldn't make as much $$$.
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Post by Doctor Fumbles on Apr 4, 2017 18:57:13 GMT
I don't see how it's "4" when it's not a direct sequel to Shepards story and shares no ties at all besides being in the same universe. It's a spin-off, bioware even said the same thing. Then they shouldn't have slapped MASS EFFECT on the cover and just called it Andromeda, but then they wouldn't make as much $$$. It's in the Mass Effect universe though. The technology they are using is using Mass Effect technology. It is the same aliens. Also, the universe is a big place. It's ok to leave the Milky Way and Shepard behind. He is not the only character in it.
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Post by ShadowAngel on Apr 4, 2017 18:57:32 GMT
I don't see how it's "4" when it's not a direct sequel to Shepards story and shares no ties at all besides being in the same universe. It's a spin-off, bioware even said the same thing. Then they shouldn't have slapped MASS EFFECT on the cover and just called it Andromeda, but then they wouldn't make as much $$$. It's in the mass effect universe yes? Why did they call halo reach a "halo game"? Had nothing to do with the main story or the chief yet it's still in the same universe. It being in the mass effect universe period would still get people interested, the brand is more than just the name.
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Post by Amirit on Apr 4, 2017 20:39:42 GMT
"Angarians." Look, I love Angry Joe, but he's a total meathead. You basically have to spoon-feed him plot points and he just doesn't pay attention to details. He's not someone whose opinion I value for RPG-like games. Always thought complicated plots is not his thing - this is why he loves so much sandboxes. Bethesda horrible animation never bothered him, yet here he is all over it. I generally like AJ reviews but sometimes he is nitpicking just to stay funny.
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Post by ticktak77 on Apr 4, 2017 21:35:12 GMT
What the hell happened to this thread lol? Anyway, bringing it back on topic regarding Joe's review. One thing that he said to me that really struck me - this is, for all intents and purposes, Mass Effect "4". And, beyond combat and some visuals, it really doesn't improve on the original 3 in any meaningful way. That's.... very disappointing. I don't see how it's "4" when it's not a direct sequel to Shepards story and shares no ties at all besides being in the same universe. It's a spin-off, bioware even said the same thing. It's the 4th game the studio has released in the franchise, and doesn't represent a massive improvement in anyway.
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