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Post by Nether on Apr 5, 2017 15:15:16 GMT
Premise: The Andromeda Initiative is a front. Staged to appear as a joint, cooperative effort between several Milky Way races, who in fact do come together to make it possible, it was originally conceived and funded by Cerberus. Amidst multimedia propaganda claiming that the journey was simply to "expand, explore, and seek out new homes", the true purpose of the AI was to arrive at a very specific, predetermined part of Andromeda. The Heleus Cluster contains an anomaly which may be studied, new science and technology learned, and brought back to the Milky Way, to ensure Humanity's domination over the war-torn galaxy. It is by no coincidence that the AI arrives at just that location, as the Nexus is really a Citadel-sized Mass Relay which, when completed, will facilitate much quicker transport between the two galaxies.
Once the AI arrives in Andromeda, each of the so-called Golden Worlds are discovered to be shams, and the true nature of the AI eventually is uncovered. People feel used, cheated, and angry that they were sold on a lie, and tricked into aiding Cerberus' schemes for galactic domination. A Rebellion ensues. At the center of all this, is Alec Ryder, a former N7 operative, who is thrown directly into this conflict when his twin children are killed in an explosion. He vows to find the people responsible, and exact vengeance, but what he discovers will change everything he thought he knew.
Cora Harper, daughter of the Illusive Man, will stop at nothing to ensure that the true purpose of the AI is achieved. With the aid of SAM, a Cerberus-constructed artificial intelligence infinitely more advanced than EDI, she will crush the Rebellion at any cost. Alec Ryder finds himself torn between his desire for vengeance, and the need to stop Cora and the Cerberus Agenda. An uneasy alliance forms, as Alec and the Rebellion team up to confront her, and put an end to the madness. But once this is done, he has some unfinished business to conclude...Or we could just have a generic evil alien bad guy who doesn't want you to use the magic weather control machine to make uninhabitable worlds habitable, because he hates your face. Yeah that works. Remember these are general audiences we have to write for now. Thats a fantastic idea, where was that posted and by whom? If only it was to be...
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Post by jmac1424 on Apr 5, 2017 15:18:54 GMT
Since women are the limiting factor when it comes to population growth, the pragmatic thing to do would be sending 75% women and 25% men. Promote polygamy and having many children and use in vitro fertilization to ensure 75% of all offspring are female. You'd still have enough men to get shit done and an explosive population growth. Make it 90/10 and we're talking. Dr. Strangelove reference, fuckin epic
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Post by SalMasRac on Apr 5, 2017 17:19:20 GMT
Premise: The Andromeda Initiative is a front. Staged to appear as a joint, cooperative effort between several Milky Way races, who in fact do come together to make it possible, it was originally conceived and funded by Cerberus. Amidst multimedia propaganda claiming that the journey was simply to "expand, explore, and seek out new homes", the true purpose of the AI was to arrive at a very specific, predetermined part of Andromeda. The Heleus Cluster contains an anomaly which may be studied, new science and technology learned, and brought back to the Milky Way, to ensure Humanity's domination over the war-torn galaxy. It is by no coincidence that the AI arrives at just that location, as the Nexus is really a Citadel-sized Mass Relay which, when completed, will facilitate much quicker transport between the two galaxies.
Once the AI arrives in Andromeda, each of the so-called Golden Worlds are discovered to be shams, and the true nature of the AI eventually is uncovered. People feel used, cheated, and angry that they were sold on a lie, and tricked into aiding Cerberus' schemes for galactic domination. A Rebellion ensues. At the center of all this, is Alec Ryder, a former N7 operative, who is thrown directly into this conflict when his twin children are killed in an explosion. He vows to find the people responsible, and exact vengeance, but what he discovers will change everything he thought he knew.
Cora Harper, daughter of the Illusive Man, will stop at nothing to ensure that the true purpose of the AI is achieved. With the aid of SAM, a Cerberus-constructed artificial intelligence infinitely more advanced than EDI, she will crush the Rebellion at any cost. Alec Ryder finds himself torn between his desire for vengeance, and the need to stop Cora and the Cerberus Agenda. An uneasy alliance forms, as Alec and the Rebellion team up to confront her, and put an end to the madness. But once this is done, he has some unfinished business to conclude...Or we could just have a generic evil alien bad guy who doesn't want you to use the magic weather control machine to make uninhabitable worlds habitable, because he hates your face. Yeah that works. Remember these are general audiences we have to write for now. Thats a fantastic idea, where was that posted and by whom? If only it was to be... I made it up myself. Believe it or not, there are still people with imaginations in this world. As for BSN, most of them can be found here on the MP forums. Were I to post this on the SP forums, the thread would likely be locked within 6 hours.
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Post by kingmandu on Apr 5, 2017 17:25:05 GMT
I used to want a Kotor 3. But after this I don't. I don't want BioWare or EA to fuck it up so bad like they have Mass Effect. I'd just like BioWare to be put out of it's misery like Pandemic or Bullfrog. Just let Bioware die. Please don't make them suffer anymore. Kill it. 😞😞😞 How nice of you that your precious memories are worth more than the jobs of a few hundred people. If you don't like the game, don't play it or pay attention to it. Try growing up and not wishing for peoples lives to put in tremendously stressful situations like a studio closure. Or you could, get a life. So sad and pathetic of a post. Edit: That fanfiction post above doesn't do enough new things! More Cerberus! 3/10! Only the original trilogy is real! /s
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Post by Pyrceval78 on Apr 5, 2017 17:35:15 GMT
I used to want a Kotor 3. But after this I don't. I don't want BioWare or EA to fuck it up so bad like they have Mass Effect. I'd just like BioWare to be put out of it's misery like Pandemic or Bullfrog. Just let Bioware die. Please don't make them suffer anymore. Kill it. 😞😞😞 How nice of you that your precious memories are worth more than the jobs of a few hundred people. If you don't like the game, don't play it or pay attention to it. Try growing up and not wishing for peoples lives to put in tremendously stressful situations like a studio closure. Or you could, get a life. So sad and pathetic of a post. Edit: That fanfiction post above doesn't do enough new things! More Cerberus! 3/10! Only the original trilogy is real! /s
If people fail at their jobs, they should be removed from them. Im not a 'trash bioware' or 'hater' of MEA, however, it is very clear there has been a lot of missteps on biowares part the past several years. SWTOR updates, DAI, and now MEA, all show distinct departures from the kind of amazing, lovingly crafted masterpieces Bioware used to produce.
The current team of Bioware are merely adequate. They are competent in their jobs but nothing more. Continuing to use the Bioware name merely sets the bar of expectation far too high, and they are not capable of reaching it. Let them go elsewhere, make other games. Hell, if MEA had been put out, stripped of its 'Bioware' and 'Mass Effect' name and trappings, change the names of things and some minor designs, it would likely have been seen as an excellent game. However, because the expectaton the Bioware name carries, people expected far better because Bioware USED TO be capable of much better. If it isnt possible any longer to do that, then yes close the studio down, fold the team in to other more mediocore studios that EA has and move on.
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Post by lurkinglurker on Apr 5, 2017 17:46:11 GMT
For the record - I probably post as much in MEA General as I do in both MP forums. I do not associate strongly with either group, but I like the personalities in the MP forums better. With the exception of a few meanies, we have either good discussion and exchange of game knowledge, or shitposting at a fairly high level. I stay for the shitposting. I'm almost the same. I post in the Lobby and the Sp section sometimes but I'm mainly here in this section, cause honestly the people here are much more laid back and accepting of humour and different personalities. I don't know how to explain it but the mp section is just more mature in a more humorous way. People are still childish and funny but they are not vicious or malicious towards others, I think that's what I mean with "mature", we're more capable of dealing with each other here. Dont know if any of that made any sense lol. This. You don't see users ambushing others for their opinions here in a serious manner as much if at all. Pre-release here was 100x better as well compared to the SP sections. When MP peeps got only a screenshot and some tweets to cling onto for the longest time people didn't act childish. People here would make sarcastic comments or post once about the bad marketing for this game's MP, but most of the people here waited till the game was out before coming to conclusions about how the MP itself would turn out instead of jumping to conclusions and flinging insults at bioware and other posters/groups. SP got quite a bit of pre release reveals and you couldn't go a day where someone would create a thread complaining/stressing out about the game before it even released based on incomplete information. The MP section here is a lot more mature when it comes to debating, people don't take things personally as much, is a lot less tense/negative, and when things do get negative it's often put or responded to in a humorous way as opposed to being as serious as a person's first job interview. Your waifu subforum is shit.
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Post by danishgambit on Apr 5, 2017 17:48:00 GMT
Your waifu subforum is shit. SHOTS FIRED
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Post by Space Cowboy on Apr 5, 2017 19:44:10 GMT
You guys had a troll thread ages ago, something like "just put something out and concentrate on MP" Looks like Bioware followed your advice.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Apr 5, 2017 19:50:16 GMT
It's the same old us vs them refrain. Once that was gamers in general vs 'the populace' now I suppose it's too mainstream so we have to distinguish between different strains of people playing the same game and make it very clear that we're definitely not like those other reprobates. The thing is that the SP comunnity basically started this back when it was announced ME3 would have a multiplayer component. The whining was incredible... then it turned out the MP was actually pretty decent while the SP was kind of disappointing in the end. Anyways... I can't tell how many times I've read something like "but who buys a Mass Effect game for anything else besides a good story" (that's the friendly version) or something like that - at times also accompanied by some hate vs. the people who play mutliplayer. After the overall very unpolished game Bioware delivered with MEA some people -including me- argue that EA should have let the SP side of the franchise just be over with the end of Shepards story and instead they should have made a really good, well balanced and overall improved multiplayer only game within the Mass Effect universe instead of doing a mediocre SP and rather disappointing MP which we have now. Try bringing that topic up in the SP forums I'm not even necessarily bashing the SP at all. If people like it, that's fine by me. But the reason we are sometimes making fun of the people in the SP forums is pretty simple in my opinion. The mainly MP-oriented players care about the core gameplay. They worry about the countless bugs, balancing issues, lackluster enemy factions and many little things that concern gameplay, usability and performance. We actually see this as a GAME that is meant to be played to have fun. Then you take a look at some threads and posts in the SP forums and people complain about (in my eyes) rather not so important things and sometimes act as if this universe was their real life and the characters in it were their real husbands/wives etc. They get so upset and emotional sometimes... it just seems very weird... often in a bad and pitiful way which makes me wanna say "GET A (REAL) LIFE". Also it's just strange that most of us MPers welcome new faces and -while sometimes making fun of something some new player says- are overall often helpful. But in the SP forums pretty much everything you write is a ticking bomb and someone will sooner or later set it off. If you post something controversial in the SP forums... omg the shitstorms and some of the insults that come along with it are truly epic sometimes. At least that's my impression. Which is why I said earlier in this thread: stay away from the SP forums Being butthurt over what some idiots said about MP five years ago is almost as bad as still being butthurt over the ending five years later. Wait, its probably worse. I agree with you though, a lot of posts in SP are over the top with hyperbole. I mostly ignore them
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Post by TormDK on Apr 5, 2017 19:55:52 GMT
How nice of you that your precious memories are worth more than the jobs of a few hundred people. If you don't like the game, don't play it or pay attention to it. Try growing up and not wishing for peoples lives to put in tremendously stressful situations like a studio closure. Or you could, get a life. So sad and pathetic of a post. Edit: That fanfiction post above doesn't do enough new things! More Cerberus! 3/10! Only the original trilogy is real! /s
If people fail at their jobs, they should be removed from them. Im not a 'trash bioware' or 'hater' of MEA, however, it is very clear there has been a lot of missteps on biowares part the past several years. SWTOR updates, DAI, and now MEA, all show distinct departures from the kind of amazing, lovingly crafted masterpieces Bioware used to produce.
The current team of Bioware are merely adequate. They are competent in their jobs but nothing more. Continuing to use the Bioware name merely sets the bar of expectation far too high, and they are not capable of reaching it. Let them go elsewhere, make other games. Hell, if MEA had been put out, stripped of its 'Bioware' and 'Mass Effect' name and trappings, change the names of things and some minor designs, it would likely have been seen as an excellent game. However, because the expectaton the Bioware name carries, people expected far better because Bioware USED TO be capable of much better. If it isnt possible any longer to do that, then yes close the studio down, fold the team in to other more mediocore studios that EA has and move on.
It is worth knowing that there are currently three full time studios that go under the name "Bioware". So "Bioware" is not one single entity, with one direction - rather three different studios each doing their own thing under one common brand. EA made it that way.
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Post by What Else You Need To Know? on Apr 5, 2017 20:57:10 GMT
You guys had a troll thread ages ago, something like "just put something out and concentrate on MP" Looks like Bioware followed your advice. SP is all drama!
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Post by Pounce de León on Apr 5, 2017 21:11:29 GMT
Thats a fantastic idea, where was that posted and by whom? If only it was to be... I made it up myself. Believe it or not, there are still people with imaginations in this world. As for BSN, most of them can be found here on the MP forums. Were I to post this on the SP forums, the thread would likely be locked within 6 hours. Do it!
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Post by XCPTNL on Apr 5, 2017 21:27:41 GMT
Being butthurt over what some idiots said about MP five years ago is almost as bad as still being butthurt over the ending five years later. Well, personally I'm not. I just talked about this topic because SP people were bitching about MP as soon as it was announced (and were sometimes rude against people who were looking forward to it) and then it even turned out to be much better than expected and than the SP part of the game (precisely because but not solely because of the ending).
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Post by Space Cowboy on Apr 5, 2017 21:32:40 GMT
Being butthurt over what some idiots said about MP five years ago is almost as bad as still being butthurt over the ending five years later. Well, personally I'm not. I just talked about this topic because SP people were bitching about MP as soon as it was announced (and were sometimes rude against people who were looking forward to it) and then it even turned out to be much better than expected and than the SP part of the game (precisely because but not solely because of the ending). True, some SP players were concerned that it would take away from the SP side of things. It didn't of course. Except for the absurd tying the SP ending to MP progress. At least they learned that lesson. DAI on the other hand.. they completely changed the combat to line up with multiplayer, so that was a far greater impact. And the combat wasnt even that good.
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Post by SalMasRac on Apr 5, 2017 21:36:44 GMT
I made it up myself. Believe it or not, there are still people with imaginations in this world. As for BSN, most of them can be found here on the MP forums. Were I to post this on the SP forums, the thread would likely be locked within 6 hours. Do it! For science: bsn.boards.net/thread/7877/ai-untold-story
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Post by Dave the Scrub on Apr 5, 2017 22:31:50 GMT
Haha, the usual suspects have already taken the bait.
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Post by Malaclypse on Apr 6, 2017 0:13:29 GMT
Stand back. He's going to try SCIENCE. I just just posted in Sal's SP thread. I challenge all of you, my MP peeps, to do the same.
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Post by kingmandu on Apr 6, 2017 2:55:58 GMT
How nice of you that your precious memories are worth more than the jobs of a few hundred people. If you don't like the game, don't play it or pay attention to it. Try growing up and not wishing for peoples lives to put in tremendously stressful situations like a studio closure. Or you could, get a life. So sad and pathetic of a post. Edit: That fanfiction post above doesn't do enough new things! More Cerberus! 3/10! Only the original trilogy is real! /s
If people fail at their jobs, they should be removed from them. Im not a 'trash bioware' or 'hater' of MEA, however, it is very clear there has been a lot of missteps on biowares part the past several years. SWTOR updates, DAI, and now MEA, all show distinct departures from the kind of amazing, lovingly crafted masterpieces Bioware used to produce.
The current team of Bioware are merely adequate. They are competent in their jobs but nothing more. Continuing to use the Bioware name merely sets the bar of expectation far too high, and they are not capable of reaching it. Let them go elsewhere, make other games. Hell, if MEA had been put out, stripped of its 'Bioware' and 'Mass Effect' name and trappings, change the names of things and some minor designs, it would likely have been seen as an excellent game. However, because the expectaton the Bioware name carries, people expected far better because Bioware USED TO be capable of much better. If it isnt possible any longer to do that, then yes close the studio down, fold the team in to other more mediocore studios that EA has and move on.
Oh, I'm sorry. Are you an exec at EA? No, you're not so it's not even in your little fucking realm to determine or even have an opinion of who gets to keep their job or not. It's a hobby, it's a game, it means nothing. Your post reminds me of those sad little boys who yelled "this is ruining my childhood!" when the new Transformers/Ninja Turtles/Ghostbusters movies released. You know what also could have been done to temper expectations? Critics give Andromeda the free pass (no game should get a free pass for bugs!) they routinely give games that launch in a rough state (console Witcher 3, Dishonored 2, every Bethesda game from the last 15 years, PC Arkham Knight, Master Chief Collection, etc etc) routinely overlook the same gameplay "problems" Andromeda has that other current games have as well, games "journalists" stop posting clickbait article with completely flawed arguments and points trashing the game for all those website hits and take off those damn rose tinted glasses and stop comparing Andromeda to the trilogy until Andromeda gets three full game releases. Which I hope happens so all the "staph wuining mah Mass Effect" babies continue to cry.
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Post by Pyrceval78 on Apr 6, 2017 3:50:30 GMT
If people fail at their jobs, they should be removed from them. Im not a 'trash bioware' or 'hater' of MEA, however, it is very clear there has been a lot of missteps on biowares part the past several years. SWTOR updates, DAI, and now MEA, all show distinct departures from the kind of amazing, lovingly crafted masterpieces Bioware used to produce.
The current team of Bioware are merely adequate. They are competent in their jobs but nothing more. Continuing to use the Bioware name merely sets the bar of expectation far too high, and they are not capable of reaching it. Let them go elsewhere, make other games. Hell, if MEA had been put out, stripped of its 'Bioware' and 'Mass Effect' name and trappings, change the names of things and some minor designs, it would likely have been seen as an excellent game. However, because the expectaton the Bioware name carries, people expected far better because Bioware USED TO be capable of much better. If it isnt possible any longer to do that, then yes close the studio down, fold the team in to other more mediocore studios that EA has and move on.
Oh, I'm sorry. Are you an exec at EA? No, you're not so it's not even in your little fucking realm to determine or even have an opinion of who gets to keep their job or not. It's a hobby, it's a game, it means nothing. Your post reminds me of those sad little boys who yelled "this is ruining my childhood!" when the new Transformers/Ninja Turtles/Ghostbusters movies released. You know what also could have been done to temper expectations? Critics give Andromeda the free pass (no game should get a free pass for bugs!) they routinely give games that launch in a rough state (console Witcher 3, Dishonored 2, every Bethesda game from the last 15 years, PC Arkham Knight, Master Chief Collection, etc etc) routinely overlook the same gameplay "problems" Andromeda has that other current games have as well, games "journalists" stop posting clickbait article with completely flawed arguments and points trashing the game for all those website hits and take off those damn rose tinted glasses and stop comparing Andromeda to the trilogy until Andromeda gets three full game releases. Which I hope happens so al the "staph wuining mah Mass Effect" babies continue to cry. You...have issues. One of them clearly being a lack of reading comprehension. Move along now, kid.
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