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Post by garrusfan1 on Apr 4, 2017 21:29:33 GMT
I'm sure the idea of many on the quarian ark being indoctrinated would lead to a revolt by some sections of BSN. That being said, I think it would be a very compelling and interesting challenge for the Pathfinder and his team to overcome. Honestly, this was even somewhat teased by the memories from Alec Ryder. It's possible the Reaper mentions would have been nothing more than an easter egg for those of us who played the original trilogy. Or, the mentioning of the Reapers was foreshadowing to the potential threat that could come to the galaxy with the quarian ark. It was strongly suggested that we might find out what happened in the Milky Way and the dialogue seemed to suggest Ryder was interested in learning more about the Reapers. This would be a clever way of bringing that subplot in MEA to life. I know many believe we'll never see a Reaper ever again and Mac Walters made it rather clear that MEA would not have Reapers. However, he never stated we couldn't see a Reaper in DLC or in a sequel game. I'd like it if a Reaper chased the Q-Ark through Dark Space but was just a few steps behind the Ark but eventually caught up and did some damage to the Ark just as shepard destroyed the Reapers. Since this Reaper was disconnected from the Reaper-hivemind upon the destruction of the "Star-child AI" it was forced to go into a rebooting sequence for several hundred years making it go into a sleep mode. Being towed by the Q-ark all the way to Andromeda until the Ark drops out of FTL, but the Ark was caught in the continuing momentum of the Reaper, combined with the damage the Reaper did, was thrown into a tailspin until crashing onto an alien planet along with the Reaper. Fast forward a bit and the crew of the Q-Ark begin waking up to see that they had crashed on an alien planet and the wreckage of a Capital class Reaper. However the Reaper had woken up before they did "reapifying" the local wildlife into ground units and indoctrinated fools who got too close to the Reapers crash site (which is about a fifty miles away from the Ark). So the Quarian Pathfinder sends a signal out say to stay away since the Reaper is capable of turning anyone who gets too close against them. However those who scouted out the Reaper have begun repairing it with pieces of Remnant tech. So Ryder decides that they have had enough of waiting and goes to trace where the signal came from. There they discover the Ark under siege by reaper and Indoctrinated forces and the Reapers' body being repaired. Eventually the Reaper is now able to move and begins marching towards the Ark intent on getting at the cryo pods to make an army and continue the cycle. So Ryder and Co destroy the Reaper but before it dies it tells Ryder and the crew everything they want to know about what had happened to the Milky Way during the attack; The decimation of Earth, the fall of Thessia, the genophage cure, the peace between Quarians and Geth, and the destruction of the "Star-Child" AI killing all of the Reapers. Okay I could get behind this. I really like the idea of this as a large dlc
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Post by Croatsky on Apr 4, 2017 21:32:59 GMT
Absolutely no. Bioware stated clearly no Reapers in Andromeda at all. No buts, no maybe. No.
Meanwhile they gave a big maybe for geth. Considering geth were the ones who gave a detailed scan of Heleus Cluster and had most likely seen Meridian Dyson Sphere( something they are building themselves, just for different reasons). So geth have reasons to go to that Andromeda.
Reapers are completely Milky Way centric due to their programming, so it makes no sense for them to chase one ark leaving the galaxy.
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Post by vyndral on Apr 4, 2017 21:38:48 GMT
i would be more interested in a free range Reaper. That is even if one were to be outside of or survive whatever happened in the MW, it might be on its own, trying to figure out what it should do. Since the system that use to order it around is no longer there or being controlled by someone else.
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Post by Revan Reborn on Apr 4, 2017 23:12:27 GMT
Absolutely no. Bioware stated clearly no Reapers in Andromeda at all. No buts, no maybe. No. Meanwhile they gave a big maybe for geth. Considering geth were the ones who gave a detailed scan of Heleus Cluster and had most likely seen Meridian Dyson Sphere( something they are building themselves, just for different reasons). So geth have reasons to go to that Andromeda. Reapers are completely Milky Way centric due to their programming, so it makes no sense for them to chase one ark leaving the galaxy. Mac Walters stated there wouldn't be any Reapers in the base game, which is true. Although, the Reapers are mentioned several times. Regardless, he never said Reapers could not show up in DLC or in a future game. What else would the quarians be so scared of? It wouldn't make sense for it to be the geth, as they aren't exactly a new enemy for the quarians. Not to mention, the geth wouldn't have an interest or motivation in following the Creators and would rather self-improve and incorporate reaper tech in the Milky Way. There is no legitimate reason for why the geth would go to Andromeda. Having a detailed scan is hardly evidence that the geth ever planned to leave. Half of what the geth did was accumulate data, as well as worship the Reapers. They are a collective, not individuals, and we see they stick around in the Milky Way to the end of ME3. Reapers already lurk in dark space, and they are not "Milky Way centric." Their purpose is to harvest Milky Way species. Nowhere did the Catalyst ever state that Reapers cannot follow Milky Way species that are leaving the Milky Way.
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Post by mrobnoxiousuk on Apr 5, 2017 1:51:05 GMT
I don't think it is Reapers otherwise the Quarian ark would be so much space debris,there is no way an ark can outrun any type of Reaper vessel and once it gets close "goodnight Irene"
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Post by zeratul12 on Apr 5, 2017 3:58:19 GMT
I don't think it is Reapers otherwise the Quarian ark would be so much space debris,there is no way an ark can outrun any type of Reaper vessel and once it gets close "goodnight Irene" I already detailed a decent scenario for why the Ark would still be in one piece (or somewhat) if it was a Reaper.
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Post by mrobnoxiousuk on Apr 5, 2017 4:07:04 GMT
I don't think it is Reapers otherwise the Quarian ark would be so much space debris,there is no way an ark can outrun any type of Reaper vessel and once it gets close "goodnight Irene" I already detailed a decent scenario for why the Ark would still be in one piece (or somewhat) if it was a Reaper. I know you outlined a scenario for it but your scenario is fan fiction at best.
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Post by zeratul12 on Apr 5, 2017 4:09:49 GMT
I already detailed a decent scenario for why the Ark would still be in one piece (or somewhat) if it was a Reaper. I know you outlined a scenario for it but your scenario is fan fiction at best. Hey atleast its plausible Fanfiction. though it was tempting to throw in a subplot about magical artifacts that make the user invincible and immortal.
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Post by mrobnoxiousuk on Apr 5, 2017 4:14:39 GMT
I know you outlined a scenario for it but your scenario is fan fiction at best. Hey atleast its plausible Fanfiction. though it was tempting to throw in a subplot about magical artifacts that make the user invincible and immortal. There was no part of it plausible, you added in things to stack things heavily in the Quarians favour you also had to give the "Reaper" in question a partial lobotomy,which such substandard drivel not only should you have included that subplot about magical artifacts that induce invincibility and immortality, you should of also added a Vorcha called Bollum who wants the artifact back!
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Post by zeratul12 on Apr 5, 2017 4:18:46 GMT
Hey atleast its plausible Fanfiction. though it was tempting to throw in a subplot about magical artifacts that make the user invincible and immortal. There was no part of it plausible, you added in things to stack things heavily in the Quarians favour you also had to give the "Reaper" in question a partial lobotomy,which such substandard drivel not only should you have included that subplot about magical artifacts that induce invincibility and immortality, you should of also added a Vorcha called Bollum who wants the artifact back! Ok then smartass what do YOU think is going on.
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Post by mrobnoxiousuk on Apr 5, 2017 4:28:14 GMT
There was no part of it plausible, you added in things to stack things heavily in the Quarians favour you also had to give the "Reaper" in question a partial lobotomy,which such substandard drivel not only should you have included that subplot about magical artifacts that induce invincibility and immortality, you should of also added a Vorcha called Bollum who wants the artifact back! Ok then smartass what do YOU think is going on. Don't get shirty,i just responded to your snark with some of my own,what is good for the goose is good for the gander. I personally think it could be the Quarian ark could have contracted a type of super plague that jumps species as the Quarian ark had a good amount of the lesser council races and the warning is in effect a a type of self imposed quarentine.
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Post by zeratul12 on Apr 5, 2017 4:44:54 GMT
Ok then smartass what do YOU think is going on. Don't get shirty,i just responded to your snark with some of my own,what is good for the goose is good for the gander. I personally think it could be the Quarian ark could have contracted a type of super plague that jumps species as the Quarian ark had a good amount of the lesser council races and the warning is in effect a a type of self imposed quarentine. Hm thats actually is a pretty plausible theory except that the Quarians have environmental suits and would be immune to any type of plague and they would Quarantine the infected. Plus they would say in their warning if it was a plague. Plus it wouldn't make for interesting gameplay and would be little more than an update.
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Post by mrobnoxiousuk on Apr 5, 2017 4:56:00 GMT
Don't get shirty,i just responded to your snark with some of my own,what is good for the goose is good for the gander. I personally think it could be the Quarian ark could have contracted a type of super plague that jumps species as the Quarian ark had a good amount of the lesser council races and the warning is in effect a a type of self imposed quarentine. Hm thats actually is a pretty plausible theory except that the Quarians have environmental suits and would be immune to any type of plague and they would Quarantine the infected. Plus they would say in their warning if it was a plague. Plus it wouldn't make for interesting gameplay and would be little more than an update. True,but by your own reasoning they could of also said "Reaper is chasing us stay away as well",i was think they could of used VI to stimulate the immune system while they slept for 600 years(remember in me3 they uploaded Geth programs to do the same)This could be the thing that has caused the virus.
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Post by zeratul12 on Apr 5, 2017 5:41:46 GMT
Hm thats actually is a pretty plausible theory except that the Quarians have environmental suits and would be immune to any type of plague and they would Quarantine the infected. Plus they would say in their warning if it was a plague. Plus it wouldn't make for interesting gameplay and would be little more than an update. True,but by your own reasoning they could of also said "Reaper is chasing us stay away as well",i was think they could of used VI to stimulate the immune system while they slept for 600 years(remember in me3 they uploaded Geth programs to do the same)This could be the thing that has caused the virus. How would a process to increase the immune system using VI result in a multi-species plague? (Just trying to get a better grasp on what you mean)
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Post by Revan Reborn on Apr 5, 2017 5:49:30 GMT
True,but by your own reasoning they could of also said "Reaper is chasing us stay away as well",i was think they could of used VI to stimulate the immune system while they slept for 600 years(remember in me3 they uploaded Geth programs to do the same)This could be the thing that has caused the virus. How would a process to increase the immune system using VI result in a multi-species plague? (Just trying to get a better grasp on what you mean) I wouldn't take his comments too seriously. He is a troll by nature. The Reaper scenario you outlined is plausible, especially for a space opera like Mass Effect where "synthesis" can evolve all organics and synthetics to live in blissful harmony. The quarantine idea makes little sense when the quarians and volus, alone, live in suits to protect them from exterior threats. I really do believe a Reaper attack is the most viable option, even if BioWare ultimately goes a different direction.
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Post by mrobnoxiousuk on Apr 5, 2017 5:54:34 GMT
How would a process to increase the immune system using VI result in a multi-species plague? (Just trying to get a better grasp on what you mean) I wouldn't take his comments too seriously. He is a troll by nature. The Reaper scenario you outlined is plausible, especially for a space opera like Mass Effect where "synthesis" can evolve all organics and synthetics to live in blissful harmony. The quarantine idea makes little sense when the quarians and volus, alone, live in suits to protect them from exterior threats. I really do believe a Reaper attack is the most viable option, even if BioWare ultimately goes a different direction. I dislike people like you who dismiss anyone that doesn't slavishly follow your lead and dare to have a difference of opinion a troll,i've seen this trend in alot of your posts. The idea i gave is plausible,remember in mass effect 3 Geth programs were uploaded into the Quarian suits to simulate diseases in order to boost the immune system which would allow them in a fraction of the time live on Rannoch without suits,how is it such a large leap of logic to think the same with VI's working on the Quarians during cyrosleep,a malfunction could cause some type of disease that activates on exiting the cyro pods similar to the "contagion" side quest.
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Post by Revan Reborn on Apr 5, 2017 6:06:35 GMT
I wouldn't take his comments too seriously. He is a troll by nature. The Reaper scenario you outlined is plausible, especially for a space opera like Mass Effect where "synthesis" can evolve all organics and synthetics to live in blissful harmony. The quarantine idea makes little sense when the quarians and volus, alone, live in suits to protect them from exterior threats. I really do believe a Reaper attack is the most viable option, even if BioWare ultimately goes a different direction. I dislike people like you who dismiss anyone that doesn't slavishly follow your lead and dare to have a difference of opinion a troll,i've seen this trend in alot of your posts. The idea i gave is plausible,remember in mass effect 3 Geth programs were uploaded into the Quarian suits to simulate diseases in order to boost the immune system which would allow them in a fraction of the time live on Rannoch without suits,how is it such a large leap of logic to think the same with VI's working on the Quarians during cyrosleep,a malfunction could cause some time of disease that activates on exiting the cyro pods similar to the "contagion" side quest. "Dislike" is a very strong word. You seem to gloss over the fact that Geth technology was far more advanced than a standard VI. Not to mention, the Geth, which are sophisticated AI, don't provide the quarians with this technology until well into the events of ME3. The Geth, obviously, are not on good terms with the quarians currently. Thus, there is practically zero chance that the quarians would have such a sophisticated immune system in place, let alone from a VI of all things. You also seem to forget that a quarian sends out the warning message, and it doesn't appear that she is personally suffering any sort of debilitating disease. If anything, the message comes across as if there is some external threat happening at the ark. The question you should be asking is where is the ark?
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Apr 5, 2017 6:12:55 GMT
While I doubt that there is a plague, the idea of the quarians having their immune system improved is certainly possible. After all we already know the Andromeda Initiative have that technology, since it was used on the krogan as they slept to improve their mutation against the Genophage to the point their viability is now 4%, 40 times higher than the Genophage caused.
I suspect they are being attacked by something, either the Kett or some new threat. I also suspect the Geth are involved, though while everyone thinks they are the enemy will turn out to be friends.
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Post by mrobnoxiousuk on Apr 5, 2017 6:15:49 GMT
I dislike people like you who dismiss anyone that doesn't slavishly follow your lead and dare to have a difference of opinion a troll,i've seen this trend in alot of your posts. The idea i gave is plausible,remember in mass effect 3 Geth programs were uploaded into the Quarian suits to simulate diseases in order to boost the immune system which would allow them in a fraction of the time live on Rannoch without suits,how is it such a large leap of logic to think the same with VI's working on the Quarians during cyrosleep,a malfunction could cause some time of disease that activates on exiting the cyro pods similar to the "contagion" side quest. "Dislike" is a very strong word. You seem to gloss over the fact that Geth technology was far more advanced than a standard VI. Not to mention, the Geth, which are sophisticated AI, don't provide the quarians with this technology until well into the events of ME3. The Geth, obviously, are not on good terms with the quarians currently. Thus, there is practically zero chance that the quarians would have such a sophisticated immune system in place, let alone from a VI of all things. You also seem to forget that a quarian sends out the warning message, and it doesn't appear that she is personally suffering any sort of debilitating disease. If anything, the message comes across as if there is some external threat happening at the ark. The question you should be asking is where is the ark? When the Quarian ark set out was roughly in the same timeline as what i stated,could i be wrong,sure i could,i am only giving possible outcomes. However what i listed shows there is precedence of something along those lines being used,so you are patently false for stating there is zero possible chance,after all the ODSY drive was pulled out of the ether, is that a zero possible chance too due to being more advanced than anything used in the Reaper war? I did not gloss over the fact Geth tech is more advanced,but the AI has made use of GETH tech in the past and i would imagine the Quarians utilize Geth tech on a much more regular basis.
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Post by zeratul12 on Apr 5, 2017 6:22:09 GMT
I wouldn't take his comments too seriously. He is a troll by nature. The Reaper scenario you outlined is plausible, especially for a space opera like Mass Effect where "synthesis" can evolve all organics and synthetics to live in blissful harmony. The quarantine idea makes little sense when the quarians and volus, alone, live in suits to protect them from exterior threats. I really do believe a Reaper attack is the most viable option, even if BioWare ultimately goes a different direction. I dislike people like you who dismiss anyone that doesn't slavishly follow your lead and dare to have a difference of opinion a troll,i've seen this trend in alot of your posts. The idea i gave is plausible,remember in mass effect 3 Geth programs were uploaded into the Quarian suits to simulate diseases in order to boost the immune system which would allow them in a fraction of the time live on Rannoch without suits,how is it such a large leap of logic to think the same with VI's working on the Quarians during cyrosleep,a malfunction could cause some type of disease that activates on exiting the cyro pods similar to the "contagion" side quest. To seem to have misunderstood what the Geth did that help the Quarians improve their immune system. When they allied with the Geth they were able to trick the immune system into thinking that the Quarian was at risk of infection or disease causing the immune system to produce antibodies, but at no point was there ever a foreign element introduced to the the Quarian that could risk their well being. (I know it doesnt make sense I tried to find something that would explain how the Geth did it without introducing something but there was nothing).
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Post by michaelm on Apr 5, 2017 6:24:39 GMT
Do you guys remember one of the Angaran messages that were written to the Nexus? Asking why the Initiative truly came to Andromeda? Perhaps they were running away from something terrible?
Perhaps that something might follow them to Andromeda? Eh? Ehhhhh?
Yeah that's such a giant far fetched thing, but there's no proving that the Reapers didn't detect the Ark leaving, and there's no proving they wouldn't have sent a Reaper or two after them to ensure no one escaped the coming Harvest. And time is no consequence to a Reaper.
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Post by mrobnoxiousuk on Apr 5, 2017 6:25:42 GMT
I dislike people like you who dismiss anyone that doesn't slavishly follow your lead and dare to have a difference of opinion a troll,i've seen this trend in alot of your posts. The idea i gave is plausible,remember in mass effect 3 Geth programs were uploaded into the Quarian suits to simulate diseases in order to boost the immune system which would allow them in a fraction of the time live on Rannoch without suits,how is it such a large leap of logic to think the same with VI's working on the Quarians during cyrosleep,a malfunction could cause some type of disease that activates on exiting the cyro pods similar to the "contagion" side quest. To seem to have misunderstood what the Geth did that help the Quarians improve their immune system. When they allied with the Geth they were able to trick the immune system into thinking that the Quarian was at risk of infection or disease causing the immune system to produce antibodies, but at no point was there ever a foreign element introduced to the the Quarian that could risk their well being. (I know it doesnt make sense I tried to find something that would explain how the Geth did it without introducing something but there was nothing). I know that mate,but i was thinking of a disease similar to Waldenstroms disease where overproduction of antibodies causes types of cancer,it's a longstretch by any means but it's an idea,especially stretched over 600 years of mutation of cells.
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Post by Revan Reborn on Apr 5, 2017 6:32:21 GMT
While I doubt that there is a plague, the idea of the quarians having their immune system improved is certainly possible. After all we already know the Andromeda Initiative have that technology, since it was used on the krogan as they slept to improve their mutation against the Genophage to the point their viability is now 4%, 40 times higher than the Genophage caused. I suspect they are being attacked by something, either the Kett or some new threat. I also suspect the Geth are involved, though while everyone thinks they are the enemy will turn out to be friends. I'm skeptical of the Geth, although they could show up in Andromeda at some point. If anything, the Geth want to get away from the Creators as much as possible. It was the Creators who initiated conflict against the Geth and it's not until Shepard resolves the differences between the two that they become friendly towards one another. I'd find the distress call to be somewhat silly if it was an attack from the kett or the Scourge. These are threats the Initiative have already dealt with. I'm under the impression it's something the Initiative has not dealt with before, which is why I believe there is validity to the Reaper theory. Not to mention, even Ryder seems to suggest that more about the Reapers could be learned in time. Whatever has the quarians spooked, it's something they haven't dealt with before or aren't prepared to fight. "Dislike" is a very strong word. You seem to gloss over the fact that Geth technology was far more advanced than a standard VI. Not to mention, the Geth, which are sophisticated AI, don't provide the quarians with this technology until well into the events of ME3. The Geth, obviously, are not on good terms with the quarians currently. Thus, there is practically zero chance that the quarians would have such a sophisticated immune system in place, let alone from a VI of all things. You also seem to forget that a quarian sends out the warning message, and it doesn't appear that she is personally suffering any sort of debilitating disease. If anything, the message comes across as if there is some external threat happening at the ark. The question you should be asking is where is the ark? When the Quarian ark set out was roughly in the same timeline as what i stated,could i be wrong,sure i could,i am only giving possible outcomes. However what i listed shows there is precedence of something along those lines being used,so you are patently false for stating there is zero possible chance,after all the ODSY drive was pulled out of the ether, is that a zero possible chance too due to being more advanced than anything used in the Reaper war? I did not gloss over the fact Geth tech is more advanced,but the AI has made use of GETH tech in the past and i would imagine the Quarians utilize Geth tech on a much more regular basis. For one, the Geth helping the quarians is one possible consequence in ME3. Even if that was the canon choice, it happens at the very end of the game. It's practically a guarantee that the quarian ark must have left either right before or at the start of the Reaper War. Otherwise, the ark would have been destroyed before it ever left the Milky Way. There really is a zero percent chance the quarians would have received this technology from the Geth, let alone that a VI would be capable of replicating it. Not to mention, we don't even know if the quarian ark has a SAM node, given the fact that the quarians hate AI and don't trust them. I wouldn't be surprised if the quarian pathfinder does not have a SAM due to a bloody history with the Geth. The quarian also despise Geth technology and will not tamper with it. If you remember in ME2, it's actually against their laws to handle sophisticated Geth technology. Tali's father was killed due to his experiments and Tali was almost exiled from her people as a result.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Apr 5, 2017 6:42:04 GMT
While I doubt that there is a plague, the idea of the quarians having their immune system improved is certainly possible. After all we already know the Andromeda Initiative have that technology, since it was used on the krogan as they slept to improve their mutation against the Genophage to the point their viability is now 4%, 40 times higher than the Genophage caused. I suspect they are being attacked by something, either the Kett or some new threat. I also suspect the Geth are involved, though while everyone thinks they are the enemy will turn out to be friends. I'm skeptical of the Geth, although they could show up in Andromeda at some point. If anything, the Geth want to get away from the Creators as much as possible. It was the Creators who initiated conflict against the Geth and it's not until Shepard resolves the differences between the two that they become friendly towards one another. I'd find the distress call to be somewhat silly if it was an attack from the kett or the Scourge. These are threats the Initiative have already dealt with. I'm under the impression it's something the Initiative has not dealt with before, which is why I believe there is validity to the Reaper theory. Not to mention, even Ryder seems to suggest that more about the Reapers could be learned in time. Whatever has the quarians spooked, it's something they haven't dealt with before or aren't prepared to fight. To be fair, the quarians don't know the rest of the Initiative has experience facing those things. That said while the Kett are probably and shouldn't be written away, like I said I suspect maybe a new threat. While Reapers would be interesting, I don't know if Bioware wants to risk that considering how fan reception towards them at the end were. As for the Geth, that is inaccurate. The Geth have never expressed a desire to get away from the Creators, and a few times show the opposite where they are open to peace but have to be met in the middle, which the quarians had never done. I could see the Geth coming to Andromeda for separate reasons than the Initiative, but they pick up the distress signal and unlike the Initiative ignore the warnings to stay away. That would explain them being mixed up in things and could lead to us thinking the Geth were the threat due to how everyone in the Initiative sees them but then having the they are allies revelation occur later in the DLC. Like for example in the Derelict Reaper mission in ME2 where Shepard first thinks the Geth were involved with the science team going silent only for later in that mission for Legion to save Shepard from a Husk ambush. I think it would be interesting and funny if during the revelation this time as we point guns towards the Geth thinking they are hostile a quarian waves us off talking about how they are friends, like a reverse of Tali's recruitment mission if you bring Legion.
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Post by mrobnoxiousuk on Apr 5, 2017 6:43:53 GMT
While I doubt that there is a plague, the idea of the quarians having their immune system improved is certainly possible. After all we already know the Andromeda Initiative have that technology, since it was used on the krogan as they slept to improve their mutation against the Genophage to the point their viability is now 4%, 40 times higher than the Genophage caused. I suspect they are being attacked by something, either the Kett or some new threat. I also suspect the Geth are involved, though while everyone thinks they are the enemy will turn out to be friends. I'm skeptical of the Geth, although they could show up in Andromeda at some point. If anything, the Geth want to get away from the Creators as much as possible. It was the Creators who initiated conflict against the Geth and it's not until Shepard resolves the differences between the two that they become friendly towards one another. I'd find the distress call to be somewhat silly if it was an attack from the kett or the Scourge. These are threats the Initiative have already dealt with. I'm under the impression it's something the Initiative has not dealt with before, which is why I believe there is validity to the Reaper theory. Not to mention, even Ryder seems to suggest that more about the Reapers could be learned in time. Whatever has the quarians spooked, it's something they haven't dealt with before or aren't prepared to fight. When the Quarian ark set out was roughly in the same timeline as what i stated,could i be wrong,sure i could,i am only giving possible outcomes. However what i listed shows there is precedence of something along those lines being used,so you are patently false for stating there is zero possible chance,after all the ODSY drive was pulled out of the ether, is that a zero possible chance too due to being more advanced than anything used in the Reaper war? I did not gloss over the fact Geth tech is more advanced,but the AI has made use of GETH tech in the past and i would imagine the Quarians utilize Geth tech on a much more regular basis. For one, the Geth helping the quarians is one possible consequence in ME3. Even if that was the canon choice, it happens at the very end of the game. It's practically a guarantee that the quarian ark must have left either right before or at the start of the Reaper War. Otherwise, the ark would have been destroyed before it ever left the Milky Way. There really is a zero percent chance the quarians would have received this technology from the Geth, let alone that a VI would be capable of replicating it. Not to mention, we don't even know if the quarian ark has a SAM node, given the fact that the quarians hate AI and don't trust them. I wouldn't be surprised if the quarian pathfinder does not have a SAM due to a bloody history with the Geth. The quarian also despise Geth technology and will not tamper with it. If you remember in ME2, it's actually against their laws to handle sophisticated Geth technology. Tali's father was killed due to his experiments and Tali was almost exiled from her people as a result. (1)I said it sets a precedence for this type of thing-which you completely ignored to dogmatically pursue the same line (2)You have no exact date for when the Quarian Ark left,you have a rough idea and that is it,do not try to pretend otherwise. (3)Stop saying zero percent chance when you are basing your own opinions as fact,you will at one point have to eat crow with such arrogance (4)The Quarians can and do tamper with Geth technology on a regular basis in fact one of the Admirals, Admiral Daro'Xen vas Moreh it is her job to do so,she even wants Legion to dismantle and study. (5)you go on and on about Quarians not tampering with Geth tech and then you mention Tali's father doing exactly that,you just contradicted yourself.
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