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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2017 5:00:31 GMT
Am I the only one that thought this was a troll topic?
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Post by qunaripenis on Apr 6, 2017 5:59:09 GMT
Am I the only one that thought this was a troll topic? Honestly, I thought the hashtag was satirical at best.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2017 6:04:58 GMT
Am I the only one that thought this was a troll topic? Honestly, I thought the hashtag was satirical at best. I read through the pages and some people were taking this pretty seriously. I guess satire/sarcasm is lost on people.
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Post by qunaripenis on Apr 6, 2017 6:16:46 GMT
Honestly, I thought the hashtag was satirical at best. I read through the pages and some people were taking this pretty seriously. I guess satire/sarcasm is lost on people. Oh well, it'll have to be a language we get to enjoy all our own. Also, it's fun to watch them scurry.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2017 6:18:35 GMT
I read through the pages and some people were taking this pretty seriously. I guess satire/sarcasm is lost on people. Oh well, it'll have to be a language we get to enjoy all our own. Also, it's fun to watch them scurry. Haha indeed it is.
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Post by Serza on Apr 6, 2017 6:40:03 GMT
You win this thread. Wait, really? No strings attached? CONSIDER THAT DEAL SEALED. Gimme my perfect flawless woman, take the... the.. *sound of distaste* Vanguard!...I'm pretty sure I'm offended. I Mass Effect identify as a vanguard. HEEEEYARGH! Too bad for you! *infiltrates away* I like Suvi, but I rather keep Cora. What? You would favor a... Vanguard over the perfect woman?
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Post by jaerick243 on Apr 6, 2017 6:58:39 GMT
Honestly, Suvi to me, personally, seems more like a sister than someone I would romance in real life. Do not need her for male Ryder as I could simply play Sara if I wanted her.
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Post by RogueState on Apr 6, 2017 7:40:23 GMT
Can't tell if this is a troll thread or not. I really hope it is though because if it isn't, really? Uggghhhhhh!
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Post by zipzap2000 on Apr 6, 2017 7:52:06 GMT
To Bi or not to Bi that is the question.
My fellow forum goers, forumites and forupian tubes. I would like to submit to you the forums, a breeding request of significant nature.
One that actually goes to the heart of who we are as a diverse group of Krogan, Salarians, Quarians the occasional Vorcha and Humans gamers.
Should we or should we not make Suvi a romantic option for all. My reasoning for asking this question is simple.
There are no other female human romance options on the tempest. What we have are two alien hetero/lesbian sex options and a third and fourth alien sex option off world, along with two human gay sex options. One of which is off world.
And Cora.
Cora's great don't get me wrong but i feel like this game is moving a million miles an hour in the gay/hetero alien sex direction, that human "romance" options are being neglected.
Not to say I disagree with people wanting to love who they want to love. Love is love, so love whoever.
But one thing I feel is being urgently overlooked is human relationships. In a game whos only real theme song is Rag n bone mans "I'm only human." Where the best animations have been reserved for sex scenes.
That human relationships should be restricted so, is so.
Well, alien.
The idea that we really only want to bang the aliens anyway is somewhat insulting. (Please don't read my sig.)
And I feel this would go a long toward balancing out the alien human sex ratio in Andromeda.
Of course I'm happy to be wrong here if there is a way to bang Suvi I'm all ears.
Zip, out.
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Post by Revan Reborn on Apr 6, 2017 8:04:32 GMT
I wouldn't be interested in Suvi being a romance option for male Ryders unless BioWare provided optional sex scenes as well as more flirtatious dialogue for her romance. Otherwise, the Suvi romance is incredibly lackluster and underwhelming compared to everybody else. It's more of a platonic friendship than anything actually serious.
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Post by CTPhipps on Apr 6, 2017 8:10:13 GMT
On my end:
Liam Cora Jaal Suvi Gil
Make em all bi.
Why?
Because Gil being on the Kinsey scale and having the ability/desire to be with Jil even if he prefers men is interesting as a rivalry to male Ryder.
Jaal not caring about human limits is good.
Liam and Cora?
Why not!
Suvi? Okay, that's just because male gamers like redheads.
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Post by CTPhipps on Apr 6, 2017 8:18:06 GMT
Some people don't like gingers.
I don't know these people.
They're...strange.
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Post by lastpawn on Apr 6, 2017 8:19:20 GMT
I believe I saw some promotional material where Suvi was a male romance as well, but this was pulled for, uh, social justice reasons?
oh, here: https://www.reddit.com/r/masseffect/comments/62x612/mea_spoilers_suvi_used_to_be_straightbi_early/
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Post by Psychevore on Apr 6, 2017 8:20:53 GMT
No. She's lesbian, deal with it.
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Post by CTPhipps on Apr 6, 2017 8:23:21 GMT
I believe I saw some promotional material where Suvi was a male romance as well, but this was pulled for, uh, social justice reasons? oh, here: https://www.reddit.com/r/masseffect/comments/62x612/mea_spoilers_suvi_used_to_be_straightbi_early/ Social Justice is like The Illuminati on the internet. It may make no sense but its apparently responsible for everything. Because a bisexual Suvi would be so less progressive than a gay one.
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Post by Revan Reborn on Apr 6, 2017 8:27:48 GMT
I believe I saw some promotional material where Suvi was a male romance as well, but this was pulled for, uh, social justice reasons? oh, here: https://www.reddit.com/r/masseffect/comments/62x612/mea_spoilers_suvi_used_to_be_straightbi_early/ This doesn't really surprise me. I have a feeling Suvi was probably a straight male option first given the scene, and then BioWare decided to re-purpose her as the lesbian option when they funneled more resources into Cora. I still believe player-sexual would make more fans happy than those it would upset. Regardless of what your gender or sexual preference is, you'd be able to choose whoever you'd like. I'd wager there will be a mod for PC that will re-implement this back into the game, assuming there is corresponding VA to coincide with it.
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Post by Dirk on Apr 6, 2017 8:29:20 GMT
Suvi's writer said this:
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Post by lastpawn on Apr 6, 2017 8:38:03 GMT
Hmmm... ok. I wonder what's going on with those images of Scott and her, then.
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Post by Revan Reborn on Apr 6, 2017 8:41:49 GMT
Hmmm... ok. I wonder what's going on with those images of Scott and her, then. There's really only two possible answers to that question. Either Suvi's writer is lying, or someone swapped Sara Ryder's body with Scott Ryder. Both options are entirely plausible. Regardless, the scene is built in such a way that it could support either gender without need for revision.
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Post by zipzap2000 on Apr 6, 2017 8:43:49 GMT
On my end: Liam Cora Jaal Suvi Gil Make em all bi. Why? Because Gil being on the Kinsey scale and having the ability/desire to be with Jil even if he prefers men is interesting as a rivalry to male Ryder. Jaal not caring about human limits is good. Liam and Cora? Why not! Suvi? Okay, that's just because male gamers like redheads. Well that is known fact. Yes.
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Post by zipzap2000 on Apr 6, 2017 8:49:16 GMT
I believe I saw some promotional material where Suvi was a male romance as well, but this was pulled for, uh, social justice reasons? oh, here: https://www.reddit.com/r/masseffect/comments/62x612/mea_spoilers_suvi_used_to_be_straightbi_early/ Well this is nothing more than an assault on the game. No wonder theres nothing to do but fetch quests.
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Post by phantomrachie on Apr 6, 2017 8:51:23 GMT
I tend to be torn on things like this.
On the one hand, I always fall for the straight lady, get mildly disappointed & the roll a male character to romance her. So Cora in ME:A. On the other hand I think representation matters, there are very few gay characters in video games and most of the ones that exist are Bioware characters so I'd hate to see them changed.
Having a gay romance option creates that representation in a believable way because there is a reason for them tell the player that they are gay. Cora & Gill both make it equally clear they aren't into women when you flirt with them. Whereas characters like Addison could be gay, straight or bi and the player would have no way of knowing because it never comes up.
Ultimately I think that if a game has enough romance options to go around, that they should all have their own sexuality and that the lack of representation for lesbians in video games in general means I wouldn't like to see Suvi made bi.
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Post by Revan Reborn on Apr 6, 2017 8:58:58 GMT
I tend to be torn on things like this. On the one hand, I always fall for the straight lady, get mildly disappointed & the roll a male character to romance her. So Cora in ME:A. On the other hand I think representation matters, there are very few gay characters in video games and most of the ones that exist are Bioware characters so I'd hate to see them changed. Having a gay romance option creates that representation in a believable way because there is a reason for them tell the player that they are gay. Cora & Gill both make it equally clear they aren't into women when you flirt with them. Whereas characters like Addison could be gay, straight or bi and the player would have no way of knowing because it never comes up. Ultimately I think that if a game has enough romance options to go around, that they should all have their own sexuality and that the lack of representation for lesbians in video games in general means I wouldn't like to see Suvi made bi. I agree with your assessment only if every single romance is treated equally and has the same amount of content and care. As it stands, some romances have far more attention (Jaal, Peebee, and Cora), while others were clearly secondary (every other option). Due to the realities of game design, limited budgets, and having to prioritize resources, I think it would just be better if every character, not just Suvi, was bi. Gay male Ryders get the least amount of attention and lesbian Ryders aren't much better off if you disregard Peebee as an option. I definitely understand the argument of every gender and sexual orientation being represented. At the same time, I think budgetary restrictions will always make that kind of inclusiveness strategy unwieldy and largely impractical. If every character is bisexual, then player choice is maximized and everybody, regardless of their gender and sexual preference, gets what they want. Really, it comes down to effective writing to make these characters believable. Just because a character isn't set to a particular sexual preference doesn't mean they still cannot be compelling.
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Post by zipzap2000 on Apr 6, 2017 9:03:18 GMT
I tend to be torn on things like this. On the one hand, I always fall for the straight lady, get mildly disappointed & the roll a male character to romance her. So Cora in ME:A. On the other hand I think representation matters, there are very few gay characters in video games and most of the ones that exist are Bioware characters so I'd hate to see them changed. Having a gay romance option creates that representation in a believable way because there is a reason for them tell the player that they are gay. Cora & Gill both make it equally clear they aren't into women when you flirt with them. Whereas characters like Addison could be gay, straight or bi and the player would have no way of knowing because it never comes up. Ultimately I think that if a game has enough romance options to go around, that they should all have their own sexuality and that the lack of representation for lesbians in video games in general means I wouldn't like to see Suvi made bi. I agree with your assessment only if every single romance is treated equally and has the same amount of content and care. As it stands, some romances have far more attention (Jaal, Peebee, and Cora), while others were clearly secondary (every other option). Due to the realities of game design, limited budgets, and having to prioritize resources, I think it would just be better if every character, not just Suvi, was bi. Gay male Ryders get the least amount of attention and lesbian Ryders aren't much better off if you disregard Peebee as an option. I definitely understand the argument of every gender and sexual orientation being represented. At the same time, I think budgetary restrictions will always make that kind of inclusiveness strategy unwieldy and largely an impractical. If every character is bisexual, then player choice is maximized and everybody, regardless of their gender and sexual preference, gets what they want. Really, it comes down to effective writing to make these characters believable. Just because a character isn't set to a particular sexual preference doesn't mean they still cannot be compelling. It also eliminates the MEA scenario of 4 alien romances and 1 human.
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