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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2017 14:50:44 GMT
No Jaal pleasures her. He "goes down" on Sara.
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Apr 7, 2017 14:51:26 GMT
How sweet of him.
Would've been a nice interrupt though.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2017 14:54:25 GMT
How sweet of him. Would've been a nice interrupt though. You only interrupt twice. Once to surprise him with a kiss, and the second time to confess you love him. Neither have to be taken and you can also refuse sex and they share a cute moment instead. But if you actually watch it, his focus is her pleasure:
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Post by Iakus on Apr 7, 2017 15:49:43 GMT
Whaaat? They didn't even give Liam something proper? Nope! Straight Sara's hottest love scene is with Jaal, which consists of nudity (both of them) and oral sex. And that's what's important in a romance.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2017 15:52:00 GMT
Nope! Straight Sara's hottest love scene is with Jaal, which consists of nudity (both of them) and oral sex. And that's what's important in a romance. Not sure about PeeBee, but you can refuse sex with Cora and Jaal and still get a beautiful moment.
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Post by Iakus on Apr 7, 2017 16:12:12 GMT
And that's what's important in a romance. Not sure about PeeBee, but you can refuse sex with Cora and Jaal and still get a beautiful moment. So I've heard. But I still question the necessity of including such detailed and graphic sex scenes. Does Bioware really think that's what we're after in doing romance subplots? Are they trying to out-Witcher The Wither?
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Post by theratpack55 on Apr 7, 2017 16:19:01 GMT
Not sure about PeeBee, but you can refuse sex with Cora and Jaal and still get a beautiful moment. So I've heard. But I still question the necessity of including such detailed and graphic sex scenes. Does Bioware really think that's what we're after in doing romance subplots? Are they trying to out-Witcher The Wither? Considering all the praise The Witcher is getting it's not unreasonable for BW to follow its example in some ways. Also, not to start an argument or anything but I, for one, greatly enjoyed the Jaal romance culmination and am grateful that BW went there. Sex is an important part of romance for quite a number of people, doesn't make the emotional side of it any lesser. It's not like the Jaal romance isn't deep and sweet at the same time (even too romantic for some from what I've heard).
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2017 16:19:02 GMT
Not sure about PeeBee, but you can refuse sex with Cora and Jaal and still get a beautiful moment. So I've heard. But I still question the necessity of including such detailed and graphic sex scenes. Does Bioware really think that's what we're after in doing romance subplots? Are they trying to out-Witcher The Wither? They were inspired by both DAI and TW3, and I think it's fine tbh. PeeBee's scene is deeper than a fling, and Jaal and Sara is a big turning point for them if you are thorough with their romance and realize that love scene is not even a sex scene. Cora is the one that I felt was just too pointless and movie sex.
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Post by Iakus on Apr 7, 2017 16:36:44 GMT
So I've heard. But I still question the necessity of including such detailed and graphic sex scenes. Does Bioware really think that's what we're after in doing romance subplots? Are they trying to out-Witcher The Wither? They were inspired by both DAI and TW3, and I think it's fine tbh. PeeBee's scene is deeper than a fling, and Jaal and Sara is a big turning point for them if you are thorough with their romance and realize that love scene is not even a sex scene. Cora is the one that I felt was just too pointless and movie sex. I think DAI already pushed the envelope too far, and MEA leaves that in the dust. I don't see how watching Peebee riding...Ryder...and a closeup of her climax adds anything to her romance. It's every bit as much "pointless movie sex" as Cora. Same with Jaal. I can maybe see watching them frolic in the water together (though I think it's still just a chance for gratuitous t&a) but Jaal going down on her? Yeah, don't need to see that to get the idea they are in love.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2017 16:40:44 GMT
They were inspired by both DAI and TW3, and I think it's fine tbh. PeeBee's scene is deeper than a fling, and Jaal and Sara is a big turning point for them if you are thorough with their romance and realize that love scene is not even a sex scene. Cora is the one that I felt was just too pointless and movie sex. I think DAI already pushed the envelope too far, and MEA leaves that in the dust. I don't see how watching Peebee riding...Ryder...and a closeup of her climax adds anything to her romance. It's every bit as much "pointless movie sex" as Cora. Same with Jaal. I can maybe see watching them frolic in the water together (though I think it's still just a chance for gratuitous t&a) but Jaal going down on her? Yeah, don't need to see that to get the idea they are in love. PeeBee has never embraced eternity with someone before, so it was a special moment and her first time. Jaal going down on Sara is to show he loves her and wishes to please her, plus he tells her he wants to make love to her, which is why it's not a sex scene imo. If you don't like it, just don't romance them or refuse sex. Nothing is forced on anyone.
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Post by Mihura on Apr 7, 2017 16:44:30 GMT
Not sure about PeeBee, but you can refuse sex with Cora and Jaal and still get a beautiful moment. So I've heard. But I still question the necessity of including such detailed and graphic sex scenes. Does Bioware really think that's what we're after in doing romance subplots? Are they trying to out-Witcher The Wither?Not even close, The Witcher 3 scenes were actually funny and made sense. I am not even straight and enjoy them.
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Post by Iakus on Apr 7, 2017 18:17:25 GMT
I think DAI already pushed the envelope too far, and MEA leaves that in the dust. I don't see how watching Peebee riding...Ryder...and a closeup of her climax adds anything to her romance. It's every bit as much "pointless movie sex" as Cora. Same with Jaal. I can maybe see watching them frolic in the water together (though I think it's still just a chance for gratuitous t&a) but Jaal going down on her? Yeah, don't need to see that to get the idea they are in love. PeeBee has never embraced eternity with someone before, so it was a special moment and her first time. Neither had Liara. Did not seeing her blueberries make her scene in ME1 less meaningful?
Umm, there's sex. Therefore, sex scene.
Grand romantic gestures are fine and all. But there's a million and one ways to demonstrate that .
Great in theory. But Bioware actively hid most of the romances from us prior to release. And then said "Yeah, some of them don't require sex to complete the romance, but we're not telling you which ones" And then they didn't tell us which ones contain graphic sex scenes and which didn't. So that advice rings rather hollow.[/p][/p]
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2017 18:18:56 GMT
*shrugs* I just don't care anymore lol I am sick of the constant complaining over insignificant things in MEA and just laugh now (not you, just in general).
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Post by CrutchCricket on Apr 7, 2017 19:27:16 GMT
And that's what's important in a romance. Well... When two people "love" each other very much they tend to take off clothes and... touch and stuff... Y'know? Or are you jumping on the "sex in video games, oh noes!" bandwagon? Also, you could skip them? Saying it's misused resources also falls kind of flat. Because while it may be true, "resources" are not the reason Andromeda is in the state it's in. Not even close.
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Post by Iakus on Apr 7, 2017 19:32:15 GMT
And that's what's important in a romance. Well... When two people "love" each other very much they tend to take off clothes and... touch and stuff... Y'know? Or are you jumping on the "sex in video games, oh noes!" bandwagon? I don't mind sex in video games. Just as I don't mind Italian sausage. However, as the saying goes, I don't care to watch the "sausage" being made. I find sex scenes tasteless and voyeuristic. See my comment earlier. We were not told which were skippable/had alternate scenes, nor which have graphic sex scenes and which were fade-to-black. Oh? Look at Peebee's climax compared to Addison's 1.0 look.
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Post by CrutchCricket on Apr 7, 2017 19:50:48 GMT
I don't mind sex in video games. Just as I don't mind Italian sausage. However, as the saying goes, I don't care to watch the "sausage" being made. I find sex scenes tasteless and voyeuristic. Poor analogy. You're not watching sausage being made. You're watching it be eaten (which is what sausage is made for). Also justyouropinionman.jpg See my comment earlier. We were not told which were skippable/had alternate scenes, nor which have graphic sex scenes and which were fade-to-black. Live and learn? Or are you saying Scarred For Life™? Oh? Look at Peebee's climax compared to Addison's 1.0 look. As I said, "resources" are not the reason. "Resources" do not allocate themselves. Someone at BioWare saw "my face is tired" and thought "seems legit" instead of So any lapses in judgement go so far beyond "let's put a bit of thrusting in there shall we?" that it's not really worth mentioning.
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Post by Iakus on Apr 7, 2017 20:02:06 GMT
I don't mind sex in video games. Just as I don't mind Italian sausage. However, as the saying goes, I don't care to watch the "sausage" being made. I find sex scenes tasteless and voyeuristic. Poor analogy. You're not watching sausage being made. You're watching it be eaten (which is what sausage is made for). Also justyouropinionman.jpg Okay, bad idea to mix food metaphors and sex... Point being. I find sex to be something intensely personal and private. Not something to be viewed for casual entertainment. And I think it goes without saying that yes this is in fact, my opinion. I thought that was clear when I said "I find". See my comment earlier. We were not told which were skippable/had alternate scenes, nor which have graphic sex scenes and which were fade-to-black. Live and learn? Or are you saying Scarred For Life™? [/quote] How about "I want to be an informed customer"? Oh? Look at Peebee's climax compared to Addison's 1.0 look. As I said, "resources" are not the reason. "Resources" do not allocate themselves. Someone at BioWare saw "my face is tired" and thought "seems legit" instead of So any lapses in judgement go so far beyond "let's put a bit of thrusting in there shall we?" that it's not really worth mentioning. [/quote] And someone clearly thought Peebee's orgasm (And Cora's butt, and Sara/Jaal's frolic...) merited more resources than the face of one of the major supporting characters, among others, like every non-Peebee asari being a Lexi clone. "But is the banging good? Okay, there's no problem then" Yeah, that's a serious error in judgement, imo.
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Post by theratpack55 on Apr 7, 2017 20:09:04 GMT
And someone clearly thought Peebee's orgasm (And Cora's butt, and Sara/Jaal's frolic...) merited more resources than the face of one of the major supporting characters, among others, like every non-Peebee asari being a Lexi clone. "But is the banging good? Okay, there's no problem then" Yeah, that's a serious error in judgement, imo.[/quote] How so? A lot of players enjoyed and appreciated it, me included. I'd wager there are more who liked it than those who disliked it. Sex sells after all, which is what BW wants to do. Even if there was a resource allocation issue I'd rather they had reallocated some resources spent on fetch quests than tone down the sex scenes.
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Post by CrutchCricket on Apr 7, 2017 21:15:12 GMT
Point being. I find sex to be something intensely personal and private. Not something to be viewed for casual entertainment. Yet you're aware previous games had more than fade to black and indeed, virtual boning is a mainstay selling point of the series, yes? How personal and private is it if you see any part of the act? Are boobies themselves really so offensive? How about "I want to be an informed customer"? Don't make me bust out Russell Crowe. Are you not (now) informed? And isn't that what ratings/reviews are for? And someone clearly thought Peebee's orgasm (And Cora's butt, and Sara/Jaal's frolic...) merited more resources than the face of one of the major supporting characters, among others, like every non-Peebee asari being a Lexi clone. "But is the banging good? Okay, there's no problem then" Yeah, that's a serious error in judgement, imo. Irrelevant assumption. The idea is someone thought that face was good enough. Regardless of how much they may or may not like boobies, that's the crucial fail here.
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Post by Iakus on Apr 7, 2017 21:24:01 GMT
Point being. I find sex to be something intensely personal and private. Not something to be viewed for casual entertainment. Yet you're aware previous games had more than fade to black and indeed, virtual boning is a mainstay selling point of the series, yes? How personal and private is it if you see any part of the act? Are boobies themselves really so offensive? Umm, DAI was the only game to have real nudity in it. And MEA blows right past what DAI had. "Virtual boning has NOT been a main selling point of the series. There have been romances, yes, but little to no nudity of on screen sex. HEck the first game you could refuse sex from all three LIs without breaking the romances, or skip past the cinematics if Shepard does sleep with them. And no "boobies" are not offensive. Though I am starting to take umbrage at your characterization. I simply happen to be someone who thinks sex is something more than entertainment. Shocking, I know.
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Post by Revan Reborn on Apr 7, 2017 21:37:02 GMT
So I've heard. But I still question the necessity of including such detailed and graphic sex scenes. Does Bioware really think that's what we're after in doing romance subplots? Are they trying to out-Witcher The Wither?Not even close, The Witcher 3 scenes were actually funny and made sense. I am not even straight and enjoy them. I think what's funny is most people who seem to criticize The Witcher 3 sex scenes probably never saw them or understood the context. Every sex scene in that game with the major love interests was relevant to the plot and the story. The first romance with Yen has the infamous unicorn that we had heard about several times, even in TW2. The second sex scene was less about the "good banging" and more about the amazing execution of juxtaposing the sex with the wolves hunting the deer. The Triss romance was humorous given her history with Geralt and the alleged SOS from the lighthouse due to where they were having sex. CDPR is a master at tying the romantic moments into the story in meaningful ways. It's never just a sex simulator.
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Post by Mihura on Apr 7, 2017 22:02:14 GMT
Not even close, The Witcher 3 scenes were actually funny and made sense. I am not even straight and enjoy them. I think what's funny is most people who seem to criticize The Witcher 3 sex scenes probably never saw them or understood the context. Every sex scene in that game with the major love interests was relevant to the plot and the story. The first romance with Yen has the infamous unicorn that we had heard about several times, even in TW2. The second sex scene was less about the "good banging" and more about the amazing execution of juxtaposing the sex with the wolves hunting the deer. The Triss romance was humorous given her history with Geralt and the alleged SOS from the lighthouse due to where they were having sex. CDPR is a master at tying the romantic moments into the story in meaningful ways. It's never just a sex simulator.Well yes, that is basically it. All the scenes were natural a had a good narrative space. It was not the final moment with the character LIs, it was part of the story like finding Ciri was part of the story, also they were fun enough to made me laugh. I think DA:I comes close but ME:A is a huge disaster. Unless of course your character his straight, than Jaal/Cora/Peebee are more on that level with maybe Jaal being the closest to The Witcher.
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Post by CrutchCricket on Apr 7, 2017 22:06:21 GMT
"Virtual boning has NOT been a main selling point of the series. There have been romances, yes, but little to no nudity of on screen sex. HEck the first game you could refuse sex from all three LIs without breaking the romances, or skip past the cinematics if Shepard does sleep with them. And no "boobies" are not offensive. Though I am starting to take umbrage at your characterization. I simply happen to be someone who thinks sex is something more than entertainment. Shocking, I know. Yes, blurryness makes all the difference. By the way, 1:16, 1:22? Buttshots. Blurry, and to teh side, but buttshots nonetheless. The second even had a bit of sideboob. I'd link Ash too but I don't think we need every example do we? Point is those scenes (and the ones in later games) conveyed all the passion attributed (at least romantically) to sex and your privacy filter didn't get triggered then. And all of them could be turned down as well, so even your point about being "informed" falls kind of flat, since it's obvious what that yes prompt on the wheel will lead to. So, sorry if you're annoyed but your argument really does boil down to "I saw boobies therefore bad". Which, sure, you have the right to that opinion. It's just one that's a little too prevalent on this continent in regards to media and that tends to rustle my jimmies.
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Post by Revan Reborn on Apr 7, 2017 22:11:26 GMT
I think what's funny is most people who seem to criticize The Witcher 3 sex scenes probably never saw them or understood the context. Every sex scene in that game with the major love interests was relevant to the plot and the story. The first romance with Yen has the infamous unicorn that we had heard about several times, even in TW2. The second sex scene was less about the "good banging" and more about the amazing execution of juxtaposing the sex with the wolves hunting the deer. The Triss romance was humorous given her history with Geralt and the alleged SOS from the lighthouse due to where they were having sex. CDPR is a master at tying the romantic moments into the story in meaningful ways. It's never just a sex simulator.Well yes, that is basically it. All the scenes were natural a had a good narrative space. It was not the final moment with the character LIs, it was part of the story like finding Ciri was part of the story, also they were fun enough to made me laugh. I think DA:I comes close but ME:A is a huge disaster. Unless of course your character his straight, than Jaal/Cora/Peebee are more on that level with maybe Jaal being the closest to The Witcher. Agreed. The pacing was flawless and I felt the moments when romance did happen in TW3 was appropriate and fitting. What's even more interesting is that romance scenes have never happened right before the final mission in any of The Witcher games. They generally take place early on or at some point in the middle of the story. I thought DAI was a better attempt by BioWare, but it was still rather awkward and cringe-worthy. At least in regards to the Cassandra romance, it was pretty difficult to watch BioWare come up with something that wasn't cheesy but also not uncomfortable to look at. I felt that Jaal's romance was the only one that you could say was close to reaching the level of execution you see in TW3 romances. It was spot on from the dialogue to the scenery and even how the romance is presented. The level of passion was apparent and achieved. Cora's dialogue was decent and the kissing animations were excellent, but it was really nothing more than a gratuitous scene to show some ass and nipples. I haven't seen Peebee's romance yet (wanted to save that for my second playthrough), but it sounds like it's more on the level of Cora's romance rather than Jaal's romance.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2017 22:23:51 GMT
*Sobs in gay*
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