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Post by Mihura on Apr 7, 2017 22:31:22 GMT
Well yes, that is basically it. All the scenes were natural a had a good narrative space. It was not the final moment with the character LIs, it was part of the story like finding Ciri was part of the story, also they were fun enough to made me laugh. I think DA:I comes close but ME:A is a huge disaster. Unless of course your character his straight, than Jaal/Cora/Peebee are more on that level with maybe Jaal being the closest to The Witcher. Agreed. The pacing was flawless and I felt the moments when romance did happen in TW3 was appropriate and fitting. What's even more interesting is that romance scenes have never happened right before the final mission in any of The Witcher games. They generally take place early on or at some point in the middle of the story. I thought DAI was a better attempt by BioWare, but it was still rather awkward and cringe-worthy. At least in regards to the Cassandra romance, it was pretty difficult to watch BioWare come up with something that wasn't cheesy but also not uncomfortable to look at. I felt that Jaal's romance was the only one that you could say was close to reaching the level of execution you see in TW3 romances. It was spot on from the dialogue to the scenery and even how the romance is presented. The level of passion was apparent and achieved. Cora's dialogue was decent and the kissing animations were excellent, but it was really nothing more than a gratuitous scene to show some ass and nipples. I haven't seen Peebee's romance yet (wanted to save that for my second playthrough), but it sounds like it's more on the level of Cora's romance rather than Jaal's romance. Agree but in DA:I all the characters seem to have different vibes and made me have a good laugh sometimes. Again hands down to Jaal sex scene but all the rest was from ok to really bad, I have seem them all on youtube. FemRyder with Peebee was just ridiculous they invested zero on the non-straight romances, it was Scott straight up swapping models.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Apr 7, 2017 22:34:35 GMT
Explicit Scenes: Cora, Jaal, PeeBee Implicit Scenes: Gil, Reyes, Vetra Ambiguous Scenes: Avela, Keri, Suvi
Personally I'm glad they did this rather than everybody having explicit sex scenes.
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Post by Iakus on Apr 7, 2017 22:39:58 GMT
"Virtual boning has NOT been a main selling point of the series. There have been romances, yes, but little to no nudity of on screen sex. HEck the first game you could refuse sex from all three LIs without breaking the romances, or skip past the cinematics if Shepard does sleep with them. And no "boobies" are not offensive. Though I am starting to take umbrage at your characterization. I simply happen to be someone who thinks sex is something more than entertainment. Shocking, I know. Yes, blurryness makes all the difference. By the way, 1:16, 1:22? Buttshots. Blurry, and to teh side, but buttshots nonetheless. The second even had a bit of sideboob. I'd link Ash too but I don't think we need every example do we? And frankly, that's as far as I think the envelope should be pushed. Feel free to disagree. I at least won't mock you. Let's see "triggered" "rustle jimmies" "boils down to" +strawman statement This conversation is going nowhere intelligent
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Post by Revan Reborn on Apr 7, 2017 22:40:55 GMT
Agreed. The pacing was flawless and I felt the moments when romance did happen in TW3 was appropriate and fitting. What's even more interesting is that romance scenes have never happened right before the final mission in any of The Witcher games. They generally take place early on or at some point in the middle of the story. I thought DAI was a better attempt by BioWare, but it was still rather awkward and cringe-worthy. At least in regards to the Cassandra romance, it was pretty difficult to watch BioWare come up with something that wasn't cheesy but also not uncomfortable to look at. I felt that Jaal's romance was the only one that you could say was close to reaching the level of execution you see in TW3 romances. It was spot on from the dialogue to the scenery and even how the romance is presented. The level of passion was apparent and achieved. Cora's dialogue was decent and the kissing animations were excellent, but it was really nothing more than a gratuitous scene to show some ass and nipples. I haven't seen Peebee's romance yet (wanted to save that for my second playthrough), but it sounds like it's more on the level of Cora's romance rather than Jaal's romance. Agree but in DA:I all the characters seem to have different vibes and made me have a good laugh sometimes. Again hands down to Jaal sex scene but all the rest was from ok to really bad, I have seem them all on youtube. FemRyder with Peebee was just ridiculous they invested zero on the non-straight romances, it was Scott straight up swapping models. Yep. A really poor showing from BioWare. They really shouldn't brag about their "good banging" and how "inclusive" they are when they did such a half-baked job with most of the romances. Straight male Ryder had two quality romances. Straight female Ryder had one excellent romance. The rest of the romances were lacking in execution and content.
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Post by Iakus on Apr 7, 2017 22:41:49 GMT
Explicit Scenes: Cora, Jaal, PeeBee Implicit Scenes: Gil, Reyes, Vetra Ambiguous Scenes: Avela, Keri, Suvi Personally I'm glad they did this rather than everybody having explicit sex scenes. DO Avela and Keri even count towards the achievement?
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Apr 7, 2017 22:42:50 GMT
Explicit Scenes: Cora, Jaal, PeeBee Implicit Scenes: Gil, Reyes, Vetra Ambiguous Scenes: Avela, Keri, Suvi Personally I'm glad they did this rather than everybody having explicit sex scenes. DO Avela and Keri even count towards the achievement? Yes. All romancable characters count towards the achievement.
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Post by Iakus on Apr 7, 2017 22:45:21 GMT
DO Avela and Keri even count towards the achievement? Yes. All romancable characters count towards the achievement. I wasn't sure since I've heard you could romance them alongside others. So maybe they were considered something morelike Allers from ME3 and not be a "real" romance
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Post by Kaidan Fan on Apr 7, 2017 22:45:38 GMT
I don't get people who complain about sex in a video game. Especially this one, since most of them are skippable and don't end the romance and get an alternate scene instead.
You're playing a game where you are killing hundreds or thousands of aliens or whatever the bad guy is in any given game and that's okay, but people loving each other is not? Whatever.
On the topic of straight romances. I'm a straight lady, my choices are Liam, Reyes and Jaal. Even though I like Jaals character very much, I am not into him whatsoever. Therefore my only choices were fade to blacks with Liam or Reyes. I'm not complaining in every thread.
Let people enjoy what they enjoy. And if it's not for you, move on.
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Post by Mihura on Apr 7, 2017 22:55:57 GMT
Agree but in DA:I all the characters seem to have different vibes and made me have a good laugh sometimes. Again hands down to Jaal sex scene but all the rest was from ok to really bad, I have seem them all on youtube. FemRyder with Peebee was just ridiculous they invested zero on the non-straight romances, it was Scott straight up swapping models. Yep. A really poor showing from BioWare. They really shouldn't brag about their "good banging" and how "inclusive" they are when they did such a half-baked job with most of the romances. Straight male Ryder had two quality romances. Straight female Ryder had one excellent romance. The rest of the romances were lacking in execution and content. Man... remembering about all the "good banging" hashtags and the talk about Ryder being base on Sally Ride the first LGBT woman is space is hilarious now.
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Post by CrutchCricket on Apr 7, 2017 23:06:10 GMT
And frankly, that's as far as I think the envelope should be pushed. Feel free to disagree. I at least won't mock you. Let's see "triggered" "rustle jimmies" "boils down to" +strawman statement This conversation is going nowhere intelligent Maybe because you don't engage the argument? You said sex was a private and personal affair. I demonstrated that you had no issue with the game showing said private and personal affairs until lol, they actually started showing privates.
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Post by Iakus on Apr 7, 2017 23:06:16 GMT
I don't get people who complain about sex in a video game. Especially this one, since most of them are skippable and don't end the romance and get an alternate scene instead. Hey, it's nice that (most of) the romances get alternate scenes. The thing is we weren't told WHICH ONES have alternate scenes, or fade to black. So those of us who don't go for graphic sex scenes are kinda stumbling in the dark here. And I still think it's a waste of resources. I get these words put in my mouth a lot too. Here's my response: When did I say that's okay? I think these games are already too far into murder-hobo territory (but given Mass Effect is primarily a shooter, I suppose some allowances must be made), and I take nonviolent options every chance I get. Heck I got the pacifist achievement in the latest Deus Ex game first time out. And the "but people loving is either is not" bit...Really? Was that poorly phrased or are you seriously trying to make such a silly argument? LOVE=/= SEX!!! Many love stories do not culminate or end in a quasi porn scene. Gee, I guess since I didn't see any pelvic thrusting or bare *sses, My Revan never romanced Basilla!
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Post by Revan Reborn on Apr 7, 2017 23:10:40 GMT
Yep. A really poor showing from BioWare. They really shouldn't brag about their "good banging" and how "inclusive" they are when they did such a half-baked job with most of the romances. Straight male Ryder had two quality romances. Straight female Ryder had one excellent romance. The rest of the romances were lacking in execution and content. Man... remembering about all the "good banging" hashtags and the talk about Ryder being base on Sally Ride the first LGBT woman is space is hilarious now. Maybe BioWare can redeem itself with the DLC? I'm not getting my hopes up because there's A LOT of improvement that needs to be done. I think BioWare needs to have some sort of system put in place where it can maintain a level of consistency with romances across all of its games. Having this ad hoc approach where each writing team does what it wants just doesn't seem to be working. There's no telling what romances will look like in the next Dragon Age game, considering David Gaider left BioWare.
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Post by Iakus on Apr 7, 2017 23:14:50 GMT
And frankly, that's as far as I think the envelope should be pushed. Feel free to disagree. I at least won't mock you. Let's see "triggered" "rustle jimmies" "boils down to" +strawman statement This conversation is going nowhere intelligent Maybe because you don't engage the argument? You said sex was a private and personal affair. I demonstrated that you had no issue with the game showing said private and personal affairs until lol, they actually started showing privates. Gee it looks like I'm stating my argument, you're just not getting it (too much time spent trying to belittle my opinion?) , since you literally just rephrased it here I already said ME1, which kept things extremely brief, in shadow and in profile, was as far as I was willing to push it. As in, I'd rather it be less, but I can tolerate this. You can't seriously think the scenes in ME1 and, Peebee's sex scene are at all in the same league?
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Post by CrutchCricket on Apr 7, 2017 23:23:11 GMT
And the "but people loving is either is not" bit...Really? Was that poorly phrased or are you seriously trying to make such a silly argument? LOVE=/= SEX!!! Many love stories do not culminate or end in a quasi porn scene. Gee, I guess since I didn't see any pelvic thrusting or bare *sses, My Revan never romanced Basilla! Are you aware that "making love" is still a euphemism for sex, even in this day and age (albeit among either the more romantic or naive, depending on how you look at it)? Maybe keep that in mind. And you wanna know why I mock your view? The underlined, right there. The level of implied judgement here is really kind of annoying. Guess what, people fuck. It's kinda what makes the world go round, and keeps the species going. It's not "shameful" it's not "indecent", it's just what happens. What we have here is a media representation of people doing people things, though of course in a highly fantastical setting and for entertainment purposes. They explore, they build, they fight, they die, they have hopes, dreams; they get angry and they get scared and they get happy or sad. They form bonds, they have attractions, they act on those attractions and this is the result. If you don't personally like it, that's on you. But quit trying to say it's something dirty or demeaning. Seriously, even people known for asking for asexual romances aren't as high-strung about it.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Apr 7, 2017 23:27:44 GMT
And the "but people loving is either is not" bit...Really? Was that poorly phrased or are you seriously trying to make such a silly argument? LOVE=/= SEX!!! Many love stories do not culminate or end in a quasi porn scene. Gee, I guess since I didn't see any pelvic thrusting or bare *sses, My Revan never romanced Basilla! Are you aware that "making love" is still a euphemism for sex, even in this day and age (albeit among either the more romantic or naive, depending on how you look at it)? Maybe keep that in mind. And you wanna know why I mock your view? The underlined, right there. The level of implied judgement here is really kind of annoying. Guess what, people fuck. It's kinda what makes the world go round, and keeps the species going. It's not "shameful" it's not "indecent", it's just what happens. What we have here is a media representation of people doing people things, though of course in a highly fantastical setting and for entertainment purposes. They explore, they build, they fight, they die, they have hopes, dreams; they get angry and they get scared and they get happy or sad. They form bonds, they have attractions, they act on those attractions and this is the result. If you don't personally like it, that's on you. But quit trying to say it's something dirty or demeaning. Seriously, even people known for asking for asexual romances aren't as high-strung about it.Ah, so this is why I felt a sudden need to check this thread again.
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Post by Iakus on Apr 7, 2017 23:32:05 GMT
And the "but people loving is either is not" bit...Really? Was that poorly phrased or are you seriously trying to make such a silly argument? LOVE=/= SEX!!! Many love stories do not culminate or end in a quasi porn scene. Gee, I guess since I didn't see any pelvic thrusting or bare *sses, My Revan never romanced Basilla! Are you aware that "making love" is still a euphemism for sex, even in this day and age (albeit among either the more romantic or naive, depending on how you look at it)? Maybe keep that in mind. And are you aware that people "make love" in private? When in front of an audience it is "exhibitionism". I was right. This conversation is not going anywhere intelligent. Please refer to above statement. Yes, people have sex, make love, bang, screw, whatever you want to call it. But they do it IN PRIVATE. As in not in front of people.
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Post by Mihura on Apr 7, 2017 23:32:06 GMT
Man... remembering about all the "good banging" hashtags and the talk about Ryder being base on Sally Ride the first LGBT woman is space is hilarious now. Maybe BioWare can redeem itself with the DLC? I'm not getting my hopes up because there's A LOT of improvement that needs to be done. I think BioWare needs to have some sort of system put in place where it can maintain a level of consistency with romances across all of its games. Having this ad hoc approach where each writing team does what it wants just doesn't seem to be working. There's no telling what romances will look like in the next Dragon Age game, considering David Gaider left BioWare. Probably but than again paying more? I just do not trust bioware, there was too much screw ups and opportunities before launch to be honest with the fanbase, they had the same problem with SWTOR but did not learn from it. I still think it is more about the leads and producers than anything else, that is why DA:I was praise and ME:A was hated. They have different leaders and that makes or breaks the games, so there is not really an ad hoc approach. Coming back to CDPR, they evolve and tried more risky things. I remember back in the day when I was an usual in the witcher forum, I was always a loud supporter of no pants Geralt since TW2. Now they are offering PC Gamer statues of Geralt having a bath naked. They know how to PR and are experts on making people laugh and trying to pass that image of a honest team looking for the consumer. In true they are probably the same as bioware consumer wise but their PR team is just better, even if the fanbase sucks.
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Post by CrutchCricket on Apr 7, 2017 23:43:33 GMT
Ah, so this is why I felt a sudden need to check this thread again. I'll admit I was puzzled when I first saw you asking for romances without sex. But I got that this was a personal thing for you and you weren't judgemental of the concept; on the contrary you seem quite supportive of everyone getting what they want. Sorry if it seemed like I brought you into this as a negative. If anything I meant to say you're quite reasonable with these things. And are you aware that people "make love" in private? When in front of an audience it is "exhibitionism". I was right. This conversation is not going anywhere intelligent. I kinda expected better from a mod. Please refer to above statement. Yes, people have sex, make love, bang, screw, whatever you want to call it. But they do it IN PRIVATE. As in not in front of people. Correct me if I'm wrong but none of the Andromeda romances do it in the crew lounge in front of everybody do they? Oh, by audience you mean us? You are aware than an audience in that sense, is kind of a requirement for media right? And you can drop the "I expected better" crap. My being a mod has nothing to do with this discussion. Although I have to agree with you now, this conversation got 200% dumber. Exhibitionism. Christ, what a joke. Yeah we're done here.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Apr 7, 2017 23:51:35 GMT
Ah, so this is why I felt a sudden need to check this thread again. I'll admit I was puzzled when I first saw you asking for romances without sex. But I got that this was a personal thing for you and you weren't judgemental of the concept; on the contrary you seem quite supportive of everyone getting what they want. Sorry if it seemed like I brought you into this as a negative. If anything I meant to say you're quite reasonable with these things. No need to apologize. What I meant by that post was I was in the middle of another thread and all of a sudden I was like "I should check on this thread" and when I clicked on it saw your post referring to people like me. I'm glad that I was able to change your perception of my position. Thank you for the compliments. And yes, it's just a personal thing for me but I don't want to deprive people of what they want since I've been in that position. While this game has certainly fumbled in places, in others they made great strides to let everyone have what they want. For example I love how Cora, one of the LIs with the explicit sex scenes, has a no-sex route that had just as much time and effort devoted to it. And then there are the ambiguous romances which allow all players to have the kind of romance they want even if there aren't scenes for it.
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Post by Revan Reborn on Apr 7, 2017 23:51:38 GMT
Maybe BioWare can redeem itself with the DLC? I'm not getting my hopes up because there's A LOT of improvement that needs to be done. I think BioWare needs to have some sort of system put in place where it can maintain a level of consistency with romances across all of its games. Having this ad hoc approach where each writing team does what it wants just doesn't seem to be working. There's no telling what romances will look like in the next Dragon Age game, considering David Gaider left BioWare. Probably but than again paying more? I just do not trust bioware, there was too much screw ups and opportunities before launch to be honest with the fanbase, they had the same problem with SWTOR but did not learn from it. I still think it is more about the leads and producers than anything else, that is why DA:I was praise and ME:A was hated. They have different leaders and that makes or breaks the games, so there is not really an ad hoc approach. Coming back to CDPR, they evolve and tried more risky things. I remember back in the day when I was an usual in the witcher forum, I was always a loud supporter of no pants Geralt since TW2. Now they are offering PC Gamer statues of Geralt having a bath naked. They know how to PR and are experts on making people laugh and trying to pass that image of a honest team looking for the consumer. In true they are probably the same as bioware consumer wise but their PR team is just better, even if the fanbase sucks. Yep. Paid DLC for keeping promises that should have been in the base game isn't ideal. I agree there's definitely a problem with management. It's somewhat odd as a lot of the management on MEA was the management on ME3. I'm not really sure where the disconnect was, but there definitely needs to be a restructuring and a couple folks should be demoted or relocated elsewhere. ME3 was a step in the right direction for more inclusive romances. MEA was two steps backwards. CDPR does have a great PR team. I remember when they were first promoting their "free DLC" and then their $25 expansion pass, which is the most content I've ever received in any season pass to date. It was so cheap too compared to what most competitors do! Even BioWare wanted $15 a piece for all of the DAI DLC. CDPR is just on another level. Of course, the PR falls to EA. That may ultimately be the issue as EA has to deal with so many different studios and so many different games, where CDPR only has to worry about really one game (and the occasional side project). Not to mention, the obligatory multiplayer with microtransactions that EA dictates must be in all of their games.
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Post by Iakus on Apr 7, 2017 23:59:39 GMT
And are you aware that people "make love" in private? When in front of an audience it is "exhibitionism". I was right. This conversation is not going anywhere intelligent. I kinda expected better from a mod. Please refer to above statement. Yes, people have sex, make love, bang, screw, whatever you want to call it. But they do it IN PRIVATE. As in not in front of people. Correct me if I'm wrong but none of the Andromeda romances do it in the crew lounge in front of everybody do they? Oh, by audience you mean us? You are aware than an audience in that sense, is kind of a requirement for media right? And you can drop the "I expected better" crap. My being a mod has nothing to do with this discussion. Although I have to agree with you now, this conversation got 200% dumber. Exhibitionism. Christ, what a joke. Yeah we're done here. Yeah, it is a requirement for media. Your point? You are right, though, my comment was over the line and I deleted it. Still, I do expect a modicum of courtesy in debates. You don't have to agree with my opinions, but I do ask that you disagree politely. If you want to end the debate, that's fine. I'm expressing an opinion. I was under the impression that's allowed here.
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Post by Kaidan Fan on Apr 8, 2017 0:11:06 GMT
I don't get people who complain about sex in a video game. Especially this one, since most of them are skippable and don't end the romance and get an alternate scene instead. Hey, it's nice that (most of) the romances get alternate scenes. The thing is we weren't told WHICH ONES have alternate scenes, or fade to black. So those of us who don't go for graphic sex scenes are kinda stumbling in the dark here. And I still think it's a waste of resources. I get these words put in my mouth a lot too. Here's my response: When did I say that's okay? I think these games are already too far into murder-hobo territory (but given Mass Effect is primarily a shooter, I suppose some allowances must be made), and I take nonviolent options every chance I get. Heck I got the pacifist achievement in the latest Deus Ex game first time out. And the "but people loving is either is not" bit...Really? Was that poorly phrased or are you seriously trying to make such a silly argument?LOVE=/= SEX!!! Many love stories do not culminate or end in a quasi porn scene. Gee, I guess since I didn't see any pelvic thrusting or bare *sses, My Revan never romanced Basilla! I'm not going to pick apart your post to answer in separate sections, you get it all in one nice block, because that's how I post If you need to know which romances are "graphic" and which aren't, wait until there is a guide, or buy the guide. I stumbled into Kaidans romance in ME1 completely unawares that could even happen and when he showed up in my room and things happened my mouth was hanging open. But, I'm a grown woman with 3 kids. I wasn't shocked. Or appalled. I just kept playing the game. It was just one part of something in the story. If you are playing Mass Effect then your actions speak louder than your words. There is death in those games, it's not a secret. The bolded part, I don't even get...it doesn't seem to be something from my post? Again, the romances don't have to end in a "porn scene." Stop being so dramatic. You could just skip the romance all together if you're so against it, or, again, play something more to your liking, instead of insisting that everyone who enjoys them is some how wrong. Or that BioWare did them wrong. I have no problem with the romances and never have, if I did, I would just not play them. Not tell others they are wrong for liking what they like. Simple. And on that note I won't debate this as I've read your posts for years and know you won't change your point of view because of anything I say. And I won't change mine. Enjoy your gaming. Or not
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Post by Iakus on Apr 8, 2017 0:27:57 GMT
Hey, it's nice that (most of) the romances get alternate scenes. The thing is we weren't told WHICH ONES have alternate scenes, or fade to black. So those of us who don't go for graphic sex scenes are kinda stumbling in the dark here. And I still think it's a waste of resources. I get these words put in my mouth a lot too. Here's my response: When did I say that's okay? I think these games are already too far into murder-hobo territory (but given Mass Effect is primarily a shooter, I suppose some allowances must be made), and I take nonviolent options every chance I get. Heck I got the pacifist achievement in the latest Deus Ex game first time out. And the "but people loving is either is not" bit...Really? Was that poorly phrased or are you seriously trying to make such a silly argument?LOVE=/= SEX!!! Many love stories do not culminate or end in a quasi porn scene. Gee, I guess since I didn't see any pelvic thrusting or bare *sses, My Revan never romanced Basilla! I'm not going to pick apart your post to answer in separate sections, you get it all in one nice block, because that's how I post If you need to know which romances are "graphic" and which aren't, wait until there is a guide, or buy the guide. I stumbled into Kaidans romance in ME1 completely unawares that could even happen and when he showed up in my room and things happened my mouth was hanging open. But, I'm a grown woman with 3 kids. I wasn't shocked. Or appalled. I just kept playing the game. It was just one part of something in the story. If you are playing Mass Effect then your actions speak louder than your words. There is death in those games, it's not a secret. The bolded part, I don't even get...it doesn't seem to be something from my post? Again, the romances don't have to end in a "porn scene." Stop being so dramatic. You could just skip the romance all together if you're so against it, or, again, play something more to your liking, instead of insisting that everyone who enjoys them is some how wrong. Or that BioWare did them wrong. I have no problem with the romances and never have, if I did, I would just not play them. Not tell others they are wrong for liking what they like. Simple. And on that note I won't debate this as I've read your posts for years and know you won't change your point of view because of anything I say. And I won't change mine. Enjoy your gaming. Or not I don't buy Bioware games at all anymore without thoroughly spoiling myself. Not because of sex scenes, but for other reasons. It's sad that it has to come to this, but as topic for another thread. I am indeed aware of violence and death in the games. That does not alter my wish that there were other methods of progressing the game. That part came from your earlier post: I am not being dramatic, that is seriously what it looked like. You are free to disagree. I happen to like romances. But I can do without graphic sex scenes. And yes I am aware that SOME of them provide alternate scenes. but again, Bioware refused to tell us which ones were which. I have never said you (or anyone else) is wrong. I am stating my opinion. Some (like CrutchCricket) decided to mock me for it and I admit I got a little short after that. You are right, I am not going to change my opinion, but you're free to have yours as well.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2017 2:16:03 GMT
"Virtual boning has NOT been a main selling point of the series. There have been romances, yes, but little to no nudity of on screen sex. HEck the first game you could refuse sex from all three LIs without breaking the romances, or skip past the cinematics if Shepard does sleep with them. And no "boobies" are not offensive. Though I am starting to take umbrage at your characterization. I simply happen to be someone who thinks sex is something more than entertainment. Shocking, I know. Yes, blurryness makes all the difference. By the way, 1:16, 1:22? Buttshots. Blurry, and to teh side, but buttshots nonetheless. The second even had a bit of sideboob. I'd link Ash too but I don't think we need every example do we? Point is those scenes (and the ones in later games) conveyed all the passion attributed (at least romantically) to sex and your privacy filter didn't get triggered then. And all of them could be turned down as well, so even your point about being "informed" falls kind of flat, since it's obvious what that yes prompt on the wheel will lead to. So, sorry if you're annoyed but your argument really does boil down to "I saw boobies therefore bad". Which, sure, you have the right to that opinion. It's just one that's a little too prevalent on this continent in regards to media and that tends to rustle my jimmies. For me, the biggest difference between sex scenes in older titles and where DAI & MEA went has to do with the treatment of my character. Seeing the character that I am playing nude makes me very uncomfortable, especially since I know that so many other people were involved in the design, and millions of other people around the world are also looking at her. I invest a great deal in my role-play characters, and having them serve as fantasy / fap material... well, I just don't wanna go there. And I regret watching the scene with Jaal. Ewww... can't unsee... and I don't think I'll be playing the game again for awhile.
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Post by bacon4breakfast on Apr 8, 2017 3:58:26 GMT
I am not interested in mating unless I can find a mare who is just the right height and does not require additional elevation.
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