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Post by NRieh on Mar 19, 2017 14:02:58 GMT
THIS THREAD IS SUPPOSED TO BE SPOILER-FREE.
As some of you may already know, one of the female characters uses a strange phrase (which had already become some sort of meme)- ' My face is tired'. The context is that she's in charge and she had\has many things to do, and (apparently) she's not too happy about her burdens and responsibility.
I know that idioms and set phrases can sometimes seem confusing, funny or awkward for the non-native speakers, so I just assumed it's one of those. However, I could not track its origin. It's like it had not even existed before they had used it in MEA. Now, I would really love to hear what native English-speakers have to say about it. Had anyone heard it before? How common or uncommon is it? Is it (may be) some kind of Canadian thing, a calque from some French expression?
It certainly does not feel 'right'. Could it be a mistake? Could Karin Weekes miss something like that? Technically it's normal for the fictional settings to have their own 'in-game' idioms , but they are supposed to be recognizable as such. 'The Expanse' had their crazy 'Belters language', but we had never seen anything like that in ME (not to mention that rest of her speech sounds like common English). I'm not sure what to think of it.
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Post by Addictress on Mar 19, 2017 14:13:39 GMT
I independently thought it sounded completely off the wall.
I get creative writing but the rest of the game's writing is like Michael Bay, 80's children's show level of simple and stupid so one instance of creative phrasing like that felt like a random error, not to mention a jab at the corrupt and broken facial animations everyone's aware of.
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Post by azarhal on Mar 19, 2017 14:27:28 GMT
"My face is tired" = tired face, which I see often in English her (in Canada).
It is pretty common in French to use "Mon visage est fatigué" (the translation of my face is tired).
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Post by Sah291 on Mar 19, 2017 14:27:52 GMT
It just sounds like internet slang to me, like something I would see a young person/teenager say on social media.. as in, my face is so tired, I've been adulting all day, I need a coffee right meow. Haha, or I don't know, whatever ironically bad English is hip to say now...
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Post by Psychevore on Mar 19, 2017 14:31:47 GMT
"My face is tired" = tired face, which I see often in English her (in Canada). It is pretty common in French to use "Mon visage est fatigué" (the translation of my face is tired). This is the answer.
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Post by fade9wayz on Mar 19, 2017 14:33:12 GMT
"My face is tired" = tired face. It is pretty common in French to use "Mon visage est fatiguée" (the translation). No, it is not. Or maybe it is in canadian french, I wouldn't know, but it isn't in regular french, or even in swiss or belgian french. As an aside, visage is a masculine noun, so fatigué, not fatiguée. Edit: nevermind, you corrected it If they are going to use colloquial expressions, they should only use widely known ones, or indicate them as such, as was the case for Liam. I too took that as a jab to the facial animation criticisms
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Post by Space Cowboy on Mar 19, 2017 14:36:02 GMT
I've certainly never heard it before in Canada. French or English.
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Post by Ivory Samoan on Mar 19, 2017 14:39:03 GMT
I've never heard it before, and being honest, I found it stuck right out like a sore thumb.
Then again, I'm in New Zealand, the heaven on earth that birthed such tasty treats as nuevo Hobbiton, kiwifruit and the term "chur bro".
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Post by NRieh on Mar 19, 2017 15:10:12 GMT
So, it's MAY BE a rare Canadian expression, which even the Canadians are not aware of?..
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Post by azarhal on Mar 19, 2017 15:11:36 GMT
"My face is tired" = tired face. It is pretty common in French to use "Mon visage est fatiguée" (the translation). No, it is not. Or maybe it is in canadian french, I wouldn't know, but it isn't in regular french, or even in swiss or belgian french. As an aside, visage is a masculine noun, so fatigué, not fatiguée. Edit: nevermind, you corrected it If they are going to use colloquial expressions, they should only use widely known ones, or indicate them as such, as was the case for Liam. I too took that as a jab to the facial animation criticisms If you search with Googles (using ""), you'll have a lots of results. Including an old José Salcy song and lots of beauty tricks and even writing contest winners entries.
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Post by Eshaye on Mar 19, 2017 15:23:12 GMT
It just sounds like internet slang to me, like something I would see a young person/teenager say on social media.. as in, my face is so tired, I've been adulting all day, I need a coffee right meow. Haha, or I don't know, whatever ironically bad English is hip to say now... I agree. This is exactly what it sounds like. I am French Canadian and I've never heard Mon Visage est Fatigue.... Must be a newer thing like internet memes. As I am older then that generation (80's kid) .
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Post by Hoge on Mar 19, 2017 15:37:18 GMT
I've never heard this expression and was a bit puzzled when she said it, I can remember thinking ,"You're ..face.. is tired?". Just a bizarre phrase to hear.
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Post by commandercryptarch on Mar 19, 2017 15:40:58 GMT
I have never heard this phrase on its own. Only in context like: "My face is tired from all this smiling!"
She could have just said. "I am tired...of -well- everything!"
Anyway that whole scene was weirdly acted.
I went ahead and watched a couple of post-Eos gameplay vids and at some point Ryder says : "We need in that Vault." I had to rewind it to see if I was just seeing things. The sentence itself doesn't sound complete. Maybe I am wrong .
It's just that some lines in this game are very odd.
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Post by pantherdane on Mar 19, 2017 15:43:10 GMT
I guess its an old phrase that some people have not heard. I have heard it before. The definition of the phrase I have heard is its like a person that has lead a rough life. Look at old movies - like black and white movies. It's quite a surprise to realize how some of the people look so much older than they really are. People who are only in their 20's look double their age. Teens that look 30 or older. REAL stress ages a person. Not as many tired faces today, lol.
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Post by fade9wayz on Mar 19, 2017 15:50:59 GMT
No, it is not. Or maybe it is in canadian french, I wouldn't know, but it isn't in regular french, or even in swiss or belgian french. As an aside, visage is a masculine noun, so fatigué, not fatiguée. Edit: nevermind, you corrected it If they are going to use colloquial expressions, they should only use widely known ones, or indicate them as such, as was the case for Liam. I too took that as a jab to the facial animation criticisms If you search with Googles (using ""), you'll have a lots of results. Including an old José Salcy song and lots of beauty tricks and even writing contest winners entries. No, no, no, you can technically say 'mon visage est fatigué', but not in such a context, practically out of nowhere. It makes sense in creative writing such as that song or novel, and it is true you can find it in some cosmetic ads, but it's usually short for 'my face looks tired', as a face relfects the feelings a person experiences. However, nobody says to someone else my face is tired, in a casual conversation, much less in a (semi-) formal meeting. In a normal conversation, she would just say 'J'ai l'air fatigué' (I look tired), or, 'je suis fatiguée' (I am tired), just like in english. In that particular context, saying 'my face is tired' sounds as weird in french as it sounds in english, moreover since her face doesn't look tired at all (she's one of the freshest looking NPC all around), just static.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2017 15:53:32 GMT
It just sounds like internet slang to me, like something I would see a young person/teenager say on social media.. as in, my face is so tired, I've been adulting all day, I need a coffee right meow. Haha, or I don't know, whatever ironically bad English is hip to say now... You're probably right. I googled it out of curiosity and came up with a hit for a blog entry that has nothing to do with the ME:A meme. link
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Post by Space Cowboy on Mar 19, 2017 15:56:29 GMT
We are probably over thinking it. Maybe she's supposed to just be over tired and babbling nonsense. In which case she shouldn't be trying to have a professional meeting with new arrivals.. but anyway
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Post by alanc9 on Mar 19, 2017 15:58:11 GMT
IN US English , I've only ever heard it used as an adjunct to the far more common "talk to the hand" phrase.
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Post by fade9wayz on Mar 19, 2017 15:59:44 GMT
We are probably over thinking it. Maybe she's supposed to just be over tired and babbling nonsense. In which case she shouldn't be trying to have a professional meeting with new arrivals.. but anyway Yeah, maybe she's just on the brink of burnout. I know I've said and done stupid things when overly tired. Still is clumsy writing, if you ask me.
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Mar 19, 2017 16:01:17 GMT
I understood it as "my face is so tired I can't be bothered to smile" which explains her not being in the mood for chatter, being grumpy, and having a hostile introduction to a newcomer.
I didn't even bother to process it as anything other than what it was.
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Post by isaidlunch on Mar 19, 2017 16:03:49 GMT
It's rarely used, and when it is it's usually referring to someone smiling or otherwise having to put on a friendly act longer than they'd like. Literally everyone complains about her being a bitch so the line still makes no sense.
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Mar 19, 2017 16:04:19 GMT
We are probably over thinking it. Maybe she's supposed to just be over tired and babbling nonsense. In which case she shouldn't be trying to have a professional meeting with new arrivals.. but anyway Yeah, maybe she's just on the brink of burnout. I know I've said and done stupid things when overly tired. Still is clumsy writing, if you ask me. It's not clumsy writing when it emulates real people. This is nothing more than overanalyzing an incidental moment of speech.
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Post by Element Zero on Mar 19, 2017 16:07:46 GMT
We are probably over thinking it. Maybe she's supposed to just be over tired and babbling nonsense. In which case she shouldn't be trying to have a professional meeting with new arrivals.. but anyway We are probably over thinking it. Maybe she's supposed to just be over tired and babbling nonsense. In which case she shouldn't be trying to have a professional meeting with new arrivals.. but anyway Yeah, maybe she's just on the brink of burnout. I know I've said and done stupid things when overly tired. Still is clumsy writing, if you ask me. It would be so much easier to discern such intent if the character didn't have such a lifeless face. I agree it's a bizarre writing choice. Addison stuck out like a sore thumb in the very first asset in which I saw her. She was standing next to, and slightly behind, another NPC. I recall thinking, "Wow! They sure got lazy with that 'generic female #3' model. I hope we don't see much of that model." I had no idea she was a named NPC of some import, complete with perpetual dead-face (tired face?) and awkward writing. :/
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Mar 19, 2017 16:07:47 GMT
It's rarely used, and when it is it's usually referring to someone smiling or otherwise having to put on a friendly act longer than they'd like. Literally everyone complains about her being a bitch so the line still makes no sense. Just because other people think she's a bitch, doesn't mean she thought she was being a bitch.
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Post by fade9wayz on Mar 19, 2017 16:09:38 GMT
Yeah, maybe she's just on the brink of burnout. I know I've said and done stupid things when overly tired. Still is clumsy writing, if you ask me. It's not clumsy writing when it emulates real people. This is nothing more than overanalyzing an incidental moment of speech. It is when nobody talks like that in anormal context. This is why that particular line stands out so much. I wager we all get her meaning, but the way she expresses herself is still out of place.
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