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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on Apr 5, 2017 5:57:16 GMT
One joke theory I heard is it was purposeful in protest to the animations. A little part of me is cynical enough to believe that. Do VA see the people they represent though when recording? I don't know how it is now, but talent was given the lines and told the scene and mood. I would like to think they still do that because your visual recognition of the character will undoubtedly alter the perception of the character's author and designer. I'm not knocking Bioware for using 1200 unique voices, I'm knocking Bioware for not polishing it. If this is polished, then... wow.
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Post by NUM13ER on Apr 5, 2017 5:58:23 GMT
Honestly, Addison having a tired face is the least of her problems. I think I'd probably get this checked out... Goddamn body-snatchers...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2017 6:51:11 GMT
Well, I knew about this sentence before I played (it was already everywhere on the internet) so I listened carefully when she said it in my french game and the translation is just fine, she just says "she's tired to deal with all the problems on the Nexus". But a basic translation of "my face is tired" in french would have been so hilarious "mon visage est fatigué" XDDDDDDDDDDDD and I can't stop laughing because of this gif XDDDD Honestly, Addison having a tired face is the least of her problems. I think I'd probably get this checked out...
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Post by zaeedisking on Apr 5, 2017 7:01:31 GMT
Look, I'd love to discuss this right now, but I took an arrow to the knee and my face is tired.
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Post by LFS on Apr 5, 2017 7:06:20 GMT
Between that line and her dubious definition of 'poetry'... I mean, if nothing else, it makes it easier to sympathise with the Exiles?
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Post by Space Cowboy on Apr 5, 2017 8:12:47 GMT
Okay, so it is an actual phrase actual people have used. So is it a Canadian thing then? Not trying to get you guys to 'out yourselves' there or anything but I've spent time living in a lot of different areas of the US. North, South, East, and West and never heard it before. It's not a canadian thing, no. Never heard it before.
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Post by alihou on Apr 5, 2017 8:17:53 GMT
As a Canadian, never heard that line used. It made no sense to me, no one talks like that. I almost don't want Bioware to change her facial animations and just leave it in for the memes
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Post by NRieh on Apr 5, 2017 10:28:58 GMT
I've already tried to make a 'background check' on this phrase, even had started a thread here. It had some interesting comments, and you may want to check it out. There were several posts reporting that may be it's an awkward calque from (Canadian)French. But most of the people had never ever heard of this 'idiom', neither in French nor in English. ps: may be the mods should use their mod-glue to merge the threads?
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Post by Voluptuous Volus on Apr 5, 2017 11:27:18 GMT
Andromeda motion capture session:
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Post by alix626 on Apr 5, 2017 11:34:10 GMT
Honestly, Addison having a tired face is the least of her problems. I think I'd probably get this checked out... MY face is tired from lol'ing so hard!
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Post by dark8sage on Apr 5, 2017 11:40:02 GMT
Andromeda honestly wouldn't be so roundly slammed on animations if Addison had been actually examined before release. She's the epitome and main culprit of what's wrong with ME:A animations and character models.
I know people hate Sara because she isn't Miranda Lawson or Femshep sex doll, but Sara's animations are nowhere near as egregious as Addison's.
And Addison's a pretty important NPC!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2017 11:43:37 GMT
Director Addison walks into a doctors office and says doctor "I don't know what's wrong with me, my face is tired". The doctor takes one look at her and says "you shouldn't have been sleeping on the motorway then should you" boom tish. That's the best I could do don't judge me alright.
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Post by DragonRacer on Apr 5, 2017 12:31:00 GMT
I honestly wondered if it was inserted last minute as a self-deprecating joke because they hit a wall on improving the facial animations or something. I mean, it just seemed too... perfect? That botox face with that line delivery? I've already tried to make a 'background check' on this phrase, even had started a thread here. It had some interesting comments, and you may want to check it out. There were several posts reporting that may be it's an awkward calque from (Canadian)French. But most of the people had never ever heard of this 'idiom', neither in French nor in English. ps: may be the mods should use their mod-glue to merge the threads? Merged.
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Apr 5, 2017 12:51:00 GMT
It's not just that. She also talks about her mouth and her questline with Kennedy has another NPC talks about more people by calling them "more mouths". I don't know what is wrong with whoever wrote Addison xD
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2017 13:33:01 GMT
Honestly, I'm starting to think it's an absolutely brilliant line... a completely new idiom right up there with "Who let the dogs out." and "Dude, where's my car." I mean... everybody's talking about it... and it could stick around for quite awhile. People shouldn't be just "thumbing their noses" at it.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Apr 5, 2017 13:37:25 GMT
Andromeda motion capture session: hahahahahaha lol that was great!
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Post by myalzalean on Apr 5, 2017 13:51:09 GMT
I found a leaked transcript from a Bioware staff meeting on how to make Director Addison as unlikable as possible...
"In the first meeting with the player have Addison make some crack about the players father not being a true pathfinder because he hasn't 'found' anything."
"Ohh, good one, and make sure Addison refuses to call the new pathfinder by their title and only 'Ryder', and have her be as condescending about the new pathfinders lack of experience as possible."
"Here's another idea, make it obvious to the player that no one else on the Nexus likes her either and have them constantly bitch and moan about her."
"Okay done, but maybe we could further alienate the player by having her say some nonsense random lines, we can do a few mad libs to flesh out her dialogue."
"People hated Ashley Williams so if we have Addison do some poetry that will help."
"Good idea, but make it really bad poetry."
"But wait, what if people just start trying to skip through the dialogue?"
"That's easy, just make her facial animations as janky as possible so people can't look away, kind of like a bad car wreck. Maybe get that intern who has been mopping the rest rooms to help out."
"Brilliant!"
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2017 13:57:32 GMT
Andromeda motion capture session: You've won the internet today, my friend. This was great! EDIT: had to put there in the Twitter thread.
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Post by fialka on Apr 5, 2017 14:17:34 GMT
Am I the only one who though Addison spoke strangely, period? I'm actually not saying this as a criticism, necessarily, but to me she's a weird character who phrases things oddly in general. And I think that's intentional. I'm playing the game a second time and just had the 'my face is tired' conversation with her again. Though that line does stand out as particularly strange, if you explore all her dialogue options she tends to ramble, and even makes self-deprecating remarks about 'speaking in poetry.' And I remember having a conversation with her later in the game where she's going on about 'eating crow.' There's other examples too I can't remember off hand where she says stuff and I'm like, 'what's she going on about now?'
Not trying to defend the way she's written - I think they tried a little too hard to make her dialogue eccentric and awkward - in a way that ended up unrealistic. But I think people jumping on the 'my face is tired' line are looking into it way more deeply than they need to. Seems to me it's just weird idiom she herself made up, and it's not the only time she does it.
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Post by Pyrceval78 on Apr 5, 2017 14:21:10 GMT
Andromeda honestly wouldn't be so roundly slammed on animations if Addison had been actually examined before release. She's the epitome and main culprit of what's wrong with ME:A animations and character models. I know people hate Sara because she isn't Miranda Lawson or Femshep sex doll, but Sara's animations are nowhere near as egregious as Addison's. And Addison's a pretty important NPC! My Sara has turned her head all the way around during a cut scene at the conference table thing. Her face was facing directly up and behind her body, exorcist style. Also, she seems to have really poor posture, or severe arthritis. Or a humpback or something with how she walks and moves. Shes always hunched over and her Mr Fantastic neck is always stretched and craned upwards. Really freaky. No wonder the Doc wouldnt flirt with her.
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Post by decafhigh on Apr 5, 2017 14:21:18 GMT
Eating crow is a pretty common idiom around here. But you are right she does ramble on about things. And thanks for the merge, I'll have to read up on what has been said already.
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Post by pdusen on Apr 5, 2017 14:41:19 GMT
I hadn't heard the phrase before, but a friend of mine said it's just a normal phrase he's heard tons of times.
I assume it's just a regional thing.
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Post by Cirvante on Apr 5, 2017 14:49:48 GMT
"They disinfect. We're nothing until we're bacteria."
What did she mean by this?
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Post by dark8sage on Apr 5, 2017 14:59:46 GMT
Andromeda honestly wouldn't be so roundly slammed on animations if Addison had been actually examined before release. She's the epitome and main culprit of what's wrong with ME:A animations and character models. I know people hate Sara because she isn't Miranda Lawson or Femshep sex doll, but Sara's animations are nowhere near as egregious as Addison's. And Addison's a pretty important NPC! My Sara has turned her head all the way around during a cut scene at the conference table thing. Her face was facing directly up and behind her body, exorcist style. Also, she seems to have really poor posture, or severe arthritis. Or a humpback or something with how she walks and moves. Shes always hunched over and her Mr Fantastic neck is always stretched and craned upwards. Really freaky. No wonder the Doc wouldnt flirt with her. lol I also had an Exorcist scene with Scott Ryder on Aya while talking to the Moshae.
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Post by decafhigh on Apr 5, 2017 15:01:37 GMT
"They disinfect. We're nothing until we're bacteria." What did she mean by this? That was another weird one. I assumed she meant they don't just kill people or settlements they wipe them out so that nothing is left. Her dialogue is just odd all around.
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