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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Apr 7, 2017 16:45:56 GMT
Link to full article : www.gamespot.com/articles/mass-effect-andromeda-mac-walters-interview/1100-6448749/I suggest you read it. There's a lot of intersting reflections regarding the trilogy, the ending and Mac's ideas about what Mass Effect should be about. He also concedes why Mass Effect 2 is the best game in a lot of ways. Actually, this is pretty much related to MEA's endgame. Can we move it to spoiler-board for the discussion?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2017 16:50:31 GMT
Very good read!
Sounds like MEA will not continue in MEA2 with Ryder and crew.
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Post by Mihura on Apr 7, 2017 16:53:20 GMT
It is the DA route, makes sense actually. They always can add with DLC story base content.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2017 16:56:43 GMT
It is the DA route, makes sense actually. They always can add with DLC story base content. Yep! I think the DLC's coming out will conclude Ryder's story, with a Citadel/Trespasser-style one that sets us up for a new MEA story with a new protagonist.
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Post by KaiserShep on Apr 7, 2017 16:57:02 GMT
One thing I keep thinking: they're going to make various versions of Not-Normandy as our ship.
To be perfectly honest, I'm not really keen on this, but ultimately it comes down to how much I like the new ensemble in the future. I guess I'll get over that with constant replays and future add-ons.
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Apr 7, 2017 17:02:37 GMT
An interesting thing I liked to see him aknowledge is that he likened the length of the crit-path and said it's like ME3 "which is actually one of the shorter ones". I definitely felt ME3 was longer but it's probably super short if you only do the mandatory missions. Granted, ME3's crit-path is gated by the side-story missions on Tuchanka and Rannoch where you at least had to beat one to progress to the main event of those subplots. I still think ME3 had at least like 10 main missions or close to it while this game has like 5 maybe.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2017 17:04:26 GMT
An interesting thing I liked to see him aknowledge is that he likened the length of the crit-path and said it's like ME3 "which is actually one of the shorter ones". I definitely felt ME3 was longer but it's probably super short if you only do the mandatory missions. Granted, ME3's crit-path is gated by the side-story missions on Tuchanka and Rannoch where you at least had to beat one to progress to the main event of those subplots. I still think ME3 had at least like 10 main missions or close to it while this game has like 5 maybe. I think we have 9 in MEA?
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Post by jackdaniel on Apr 7, 2017 17:06:10 GMT
Is it me or does it sounds like they are approaching game writing like a Seinfeld Episode. Put characters in ridiculous situations, hilarity follows. I hope I am just reading too much into it.
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Post by decafhigh on Apr 7, 2017 17:08:19 GMT
It is the DA route, makes sense actually. They always can add with DLC story base content. Yep! I think the DLC's coming out will conclude Ryder's story, with a Citadel/Trespasser-style one that sets us up for a new MEA story with a new protagonist. I hope not. I'm not the Ryder's and crew biggest fan or anything but I hate the way they do it in DA. You basically take any attachment you have with the game and chuck it out the window with each sequel. For better or worse Ryder and crew are what they decided to go with. I think throwing that all away in MEA2 will finally cure me of any lingering Mass Effect enthusiasm.
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Post by dark8sage on Apr 7, 2017 17:08:59 GMT
Nooooooo, they can't do this to meeeee. I love my Scott Ryder; Lord Walters please don't take him away from me just like you did with Shepard. Stahp!
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Post by Mihura on Apr 7, 2017 17:11:20 GMT
Yep! I think the DLC's coming out will conclude Ryder's story, with a Citadel/Trespasser-style one that sets us up for a new MEA story with a new protagonist. I hope not. I'm not the Ryder's and crew biggest fan or anything but I hate the way they do it in DA. You basically take any attachment you have with the game and chuck it out the window with each sequel. For better or worse Ryder and crew are what they decided to go with. I think throwing that all away in MEA2 will finally cure me of any lingering Mass Effect enthusiasm. True but after the reception ME:A had this is the safest route, I will less surprised if the Inquisitor come back.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2017 17:11:37 GMT
Yep! I think the DLC's coming out will conclude Ryder's story, with a Citadel/Trespasser-style one that sets us up for a new MEA story with a new protagonist. I hope not. I'm not the Ryder's and crew biggest fan or anything but I hate the way they do it in DA. You basically take any attachment you have with the game and chuck it out the window with each sequel. For better or worse Ryder and crew are what they decided to go with. I think throwing that all away in MEA2 will finally cure me of any lingering Mass Effect enthusiasm. Yeah I get attached too, but I think after the trilogy, they are trying to avoid continuity with the same protagonist and returning squadmates. Before MEA was even released, they hinted this is what they wanted to do. Seems they haven't changed their minds.
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Post by Marduk on Apr 7, 2017 17:12:53 GMT
With the ME trilogy it was about Shepard so sticking with a human protagonist was understandable but if they are not gonna stick with Ryders and follow DA more, then might as well give take advantage of having a new protagonist by allowing us to pick our race which i prefer. otherwise stick with Ryders and let them grow more. i just hope they don't give us yet another new human protagonist unless he/she is another Ryder cause they still had things left to do (have to finish what Alec started and what did in Andromeda was just one phase of his plans).
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Post by griffith82 on Apr 7, 2017 17:13:31 GMT
Very good read! Sounds like MEA will not continue in MEA2 with Ryder and crew. Not necessarily. He said each game would have a conclusion but still Cary on to the next. No reason to think Ryder couldn't continue.
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Post by lavigne on Apr 7, 2017 17:14:30 GMT
If they're going down the DA route then I'm out.
Whilst I enjoyed the original DA, none of the others have even remotely come close to ME.
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Post by decafhigh on Apr 7, 2017 17:15:06 GMT
I hope not. I'm not the Ryder's and crew biggest fan or anything but I hate the way they do it in DA. You basically take any attachment you have with the game and chuck it out the window with each sequel. For better or worse Ryder and crew are what they decided to go with. I think throwing that all away in MEA2 will finally cure me of any lingering Mass Effect enthusiasm. Yeah I get attached too, but I think after the trilogy, they are trying to avoid continuity with the same protagonist and returning squadmates. Before MEA was even released, they hinted this is what they wanted to do. Seems they haven't changed their minds. /shrug Its their game they can do what they want with. I'm sure there are even folks out there that like the approach. I loved DA:O but this is the reason I never played DA2 and only about 2 hours of DAI after getting it on a $5 Origin sale.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2017 17:20:13 GMT
Very good read! Sounds like MEA will not continue in MEA2 with Ryder and crew. Not necessarily. He said each game would have a conclusion but still Cary on to the next. No reason to think Ryder couldn't continue. Going by some old tweets where they implied Ryder wasn't planned to return, it seems that's what they are intending. I am pretty attached to my Ryder, but after being torn away from my beloved protagonists in each DA game, I guess I'm used to it now. If enough people demand Ryder's return, I could see them changing it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2017 17:20:45 GMT
I am so disappointed with this. Why would they change for a new protagonist when they had so much potential for development? It doesn't make any sense. The thing that made mass effect so awesome was the fact that you could follow your main character over the course of several games. Just think about the character and story development will get lost by switching characters. The characters in mass effect became iconic because they had a chance to evolve. Oh, man. I really wanted that sequal.
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Post by lavigne on Apr 7, 2017 17:23:07 GMT
The curse of Mac Walters strikes again....
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Post by griffith82 on Apr 7, 2017 17:24:16 GMT
Not necessarily. He said each game would have a conclusion but still Cary on to the next. No reason to think Ryder couldn't continue. Going by some old tweets where they implied Ryder wasn't planned to return, it seems that's what they are intending. I am pretty attached to my Ryder, but after being torn away from my beloved protagonists in each DA game, I guess I'm used to it now. If enough people demand Ryder's return, I could see them changing it. Well I'd like Ryder to Return but a fresh perspective and maybe even playing an alien could be interesting.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2017 17:24:37 GMT
We could just speak up and tell them we want Ryder to return?
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Post by griffith82 on Apr 7, 2017 17:25:06 GMT
The curse of Mac Walters strikes again.... Nope the people that whined about the ending made this happen.
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Post by griffith82 on Apr 7, 2017 17:26:19 GMT
We could just speak up and tell them we want Ryder to return? Petitions do work. They've successfully brought characters back on tv shows so.....
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Apr 7, 2017 17:26:43 GMT
I am so disappointed with this. Why would they change for a new protagonist when they had so much potential for development? It doesn't make any sense. The thing that made mass effect so awesome was the fact that you could follow your main character over the course of several games. Just think about the character and story development will get lost by switching characters. The characters in mass effect became iconic because they had a chance to evolve. Oh, man. I really wanted that sequal. In no part of his interview does he say Ryder is going to be swapped out with somebody else. He just specifically says this is not a trilogy the way Shepard's journey was. The Mass Effect Trilogy wasn't a trilogy because all 3 games featured Shepard. It was a trilogy because all 3 games shared the same overarching premise: "The Reapers are coming. We must stop them lest we end up like all previous civilizations that get wiped every 50k years" and the protagonist who happened to be the gamechanger in that story was Shepard. Andromeda however goes game-to-game with its premise. This one was about going to Andromeda and settling in. It ends with that mostly resolved with some lingering mysteries. The next game in this series will have a new "Suppose ______ we must _____" premise. For reference, the "Witcher Trilogy" also just happened to feature Geralt of Rivia in all 3 but the plotline itself was most definitely not a trilogy. The Family Mystery Plot in this game strongly suggests sequels featuring Ryder rather than switching protagonist. If the final DLC does not resolve the lingering mysteries of Ryder it means Andromeda 2 will continue to feature Ryder.
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Post by FeralEwok on Apr 7, 2017 17:28:40 GMT
I'd hate to not be able to play as Ryder in future games. Tom Taylorson knocked it out of the ballpark and for me is the best voiced protagonist in an RPG I've played.
Hold on to that dude, Bioware.
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