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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2017 2:36:59 GMT
Wynne is very much self aware about preaching, while Giselle is into pretending how she's not. I rather like Wynne. I also found it deeply amusing how she got huffy and put my commoner dwarf back in his place after she tried going preachy on him at Ostagar and the rude butt told her that he requires none of her advice. But whai have I spent two posts not talking about Commander. What do you think Wynne and Giselle - approve or disapprove of Cullen? p.s. Also, no love for anyone harassing Dorian for being from Tevinter. I found it highly rewarding reconciling him with his father and gaining his friendship. After Adamant all these characters were laying all their problems on my Inky. The only one who asked whether she was ok was Dorian, and he was one of the party members she dragged into the Fade.
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Post by Catilina on Oct 31, 2017 11:47:51 GMT
Wynne is very much self aware about preaching, while Giselle is into pretending how she's not. I rather like Wynne. I also found it deeply amusing how she got huffy and put my commoner dwarf back in his place after she tried going preachy on him at Ostagar and the rude butt told her that he requires none of her advice. But whai have I spent two posts not talking about Commander. What do you think Wynne and Giselle - approve or disapprove of Cullen? p.s. Also, no love for anyone harassing Dorian for being from Tevinter. I found it highly rewarding reconciling him with his father and gaining his friendship. After Adamant all these characters were laying all their problems on my Inky. The only one who asked whether she was ok was Dorian, and he was one of the party members she dragged into the Fade. Tevinter's not a very friendly place in many people eyes. I can understand them. This is war. Full of Venatori, and crazy cultists, how they know, Dorian's not a spy? Because he's charming? Mother Giselle may be rude, but still honest. I know that's not a popular opinion. Yes, Dorian's great, but at the moment, the suspicion cannot be forgiven? My Inquisitors always send her to the Void, but I can understand also her position. And as phoray wrote as well, she apologizes later.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2017 12:45:21 GMT
@dustyelf It's one of my favourite banters where Wynne says to Alistair, 'Be careful who you compliment. Not the first time a much younger man woke up next to me.' Wynne and Cullen were in the same Circle. She must have known him since he was very young. It would have been interesting to ask her about him. Actually, in the tower she protects him from a verbal lashback. When they find him behind that forcefield he says all that bs mage stuff, before others respond she says, 'The poor boy is exhausted.' It seems a lot of elder ladies have mother like feelings about Cullen. HALLOWEEN DRAGON AGE ANYONE?
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Post by phoray on Oct 31, 2017 14:00:46 GMT
Wynne and Cullen were in the same Circle. She must have known him since he was very young. It would have been interesting to ask her about him. Actually, in the tower she protects him from a verbal lashback. When they find him behind that forcefield he says all that bs mage stuff, before others respond she says, 'The poor boy is exhausted.' At most, Cullen had been at the Circle a year. he was only 19 in Origins, I think. I think Wynne learned her lesson when the Warden put her in her place. Also, Cullen and Quiz are totally not the same situation as two wardens or warden + other. Wardens are doomed to an early death, and they were mid Blight, making the risk even higher.
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Post by nvanfleet on Oct 31, 2017 14:47:46 GMT
I absolutely agree; I imagine Wynne would have been keeping something of an eye on Cullen in the Tower, if for no other reason than everyone flirts with the poor kid and along those lines lay any kind of trouble - greater Mage/Templar concerns aside. I don't know how much actual interaction there would have been, but I definitely could have seen her being her warm, semi-stern Wynne self with him outside of the Circle had she lived long enough to see him with the Inquisition.
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Wynne and Cullen were in the same Circle. She must have known him since he was very young. It would have been interesting to ask her about him. Actually, in the tower she protects him from a verbal lashback. When they find him behind that forcefield he says all that bs mage stuff, before others respond she says, 'The poor boy is exhausted.' At most, Cullen had been at the Circle a year. he was only 19 in Origins, I think. I think Wynne learned her lesson when the Warden put her in her place. Also, Cullen and Quiz are totally not the same situation as two wardens or warden + other. Wardens are doomed to an early death, and they were mid Blight, making the risk even higher. Actually, that's a good question - where does the Templar training occur? The tower or separate school/church or both, or maybe school and practicum at the tower before actually joining? Cullen said the Templars took him in at the age of 13 and before that he repeatedly would sneak away from home to watch them practice since eight. They were amused by his interest and humoured him by letting him practice and then 'I must have shown promise' that's when he's accepted. @cati My problem with that scene is that Giselle didn't come to warn the Inq, she came to harass Dorian, while she was trying to make it look like she's there out of good intentions. She just wanted to do Wynne to Loghain thing and came with her own prejudices rather than on behalf of other people who have that prejudice.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2017 17:15:53 GMT
I think Wynne learned her lesson when the Warden put her in her place. Also, Cullen and Quiz are totally not the same situation as two wardens or warden + other. Wardens are doomed to an early death, and they were mid Blight, making the risk even higher. I'm not sure what you mean. You've moved on to different thing or Warden puts Wynne back in her place when they're at the Circle where they found Cullen?
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Post by Artemis on Oct 31, 2017 17:35:04 GMT
Wynne is very much self aware about preaching, while Giselle is into pretending how she's not. I rather like Wynne. I also found it deeply amusing how she got huffy and put my commoner dwarf back in his place after she tried going preachy on him at Ostagar and the rude butt told her that he requires none of her advice. But whai have I spent two posts not talking about Commander. What do you think Wynne and Giselle - approve or disapprove of Cullen? p.s. Also, no love for anyone harassing Dorian for being from Tevinter. I found it highly rewarding reconciling him with his father and gaining his friendship. After Adamant all these characters were laying all their problems on my Inky. The only one who asked whether she was ok was Dorian, and he was one of the party members she dragged into the Fade. Tevinter's not a very friendly place in many people eyes. I can understand them. This is war. Full of Venatori, and crazy cultists, how they know, Dorian's not a spy? Because he's charming? Mother Giselle may be rude, but still honest. I know that's not a popular opinion. Yes, Dorian's great, but at the moment, the suspicion cannot be forgiven? My Inquisitors always send her to the Void, but I can understand also her position. And as phoray wrote as well, she apologizes later. I TOTALLY understand Mother Giselle's concerns about Dorian. Especially when you consider she herself is an important person in the Chantry, which Dorian's entire country regards as a fraud. So her back is already up against the wall around him. But the fact that a "magister" (even though socially he is something different) is so closely potentially influencing the Inquisitor, a.k.a. The Herald of Andraste (she no doubt believes the Inquisitor is divinely influenced and so this matters greatly to her) is probably deeply troubling to her. Also consider the fact that at this very moment, a group of Tevinter cultists are actively working against the Inquisition. Mother Giselle has NO reason to trust Dorian, none at all. The only thing that bothers me is that it seems like she is accusing Dorian and the Inquisitor of being in a relationship, which pissed me off b/c if that were the case, what fucking concern is it of hers??? (You can see this irritates me lol) But I learned that she also says the same thing to a female Inquisitor, so I guess I can assume her concern has nothing to do with homophobia, which is the only thing I would truly damn her on.
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Post by Catilina on Oct 31, 2017 17:54:23 GMT
Tevinter's not a very friendly place in many people eyes. I can understand them. This is war. Full of Venatori, and crazy cultists, how they know, Dorian's not a spy? Because he's charming? Mother Giselle may be rude, but still honest. I know that's not a popular opinion. Yes, Dorian's great, but at the moment, the suspicion cannot be forgiven? My Inquisitors always send her to the Void, but I can understand also her position. And as phoray wrote as well, she apologizes later. I TOTALLY understand Mother Giselle's concerns about Dorian. Especially when you consider she herself is an important person in the Chantry, which Dorian's entire country regards as a fraud. So her back is already up against the wall around him. But the fact that a "magister" (even though socially he is something different) is so closely potentially influencing the Inquisitor, a.k.a. The Herald of Andraste (she no doubt believes the Inquisitor is divinely influenced and so this matters greatly to her) is probably deeply troubling to her. Also consider the fact that at this very moment, a group of Tevinter cultists are actively working against the Inquisition. Mother Giselle has NO reason to trust Dorian, none at all.
The only thing that bothers me is that it seems like she is accusing Dorian and the Inquisitor of being in a relationship, which pissed me off b/c if that were the case, what fucking concern is it of hers??? (You can see this irritates me lol) But I learned that she also says the same thing to a female Inquisitor, so I guess I can assume her concern has nothing to do with homophobia, which is the only thing I would truly damn her on. She concerns about a too close (love) relationship between Dorian and the Inquisitor, regardless the Inquisitor's gender, the point is a possible manipulation from Tevinter Imperium.
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Post by Catilina on Oct 31, 2017 18:01:00 GMT
At most, Cullen had been at the Circle a year. he was only 19 in Origins, I think. I think Wynne learned her lesson when the Warden put her in her place. Also, Cullen and Quiz are totally not the same situation as two wardens or warden + other. Wardens are doomed to an early death, and they were mid Blight, making the risk even higher. Actually, that's a good question - where does the Templar training occur? The tower or separate school/church or both, or maybe school and practicum at the tower before actually joining? Cullen said the Templars took him in at the age of 13 and before that he repeatedly would sneak away from home to watch them practice since eight. They were amused by his interest and humoured him by letting him practice and then 'I must have shown promise' that's when he's accepted. @cati My problem with that scene is that Giselle didn't come to warn the Inq, she came to harass Dorian, while she was trying to make it look like she's there out of good intentions. She just wanted to do Wynne to Loghain thing and came with her own prejudices rather than on behalf of other people who have that prejudice. I said she's rude. I can appreciate if someone able to apologize. Dorian's father not really was able to do it when he committed orders of magnitude more serious sins against him...
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Post by Artemis on Oct 31, 2017 18:29:08 GMT
I TOTALLY understand Mother Giselle's concerns about Dorian. Especially when you consider she herself is an important person in the Chantry, which Dorian's entire country regards as a fraud. So her back is already up against the wall around him. But the fact that a "magister" (even though socially he is something different) is so closely potentially influencing the Inquisitor, a.k.a. The Herald of Andraste (she no doubt believes the Inquisitor is divinely influenced and so this matters greatly to her) is probably deeply troubling to her. Also consider the fact that at this very moment, a group of Tevinter cultists are actively working against the Inquisition. Mother Giselle has NO reason to trust Dorian, none at all.
The only thing that bothers me is that it seems like she is accusing Dorian and the Inquisitor of being in a relationship, which pissed me off b/c if that were the case, what fucking concern is it of hers??? (You can see this irritates me lol) But I learned that she also says the same thing to a female Inquisitor, so I guess I can assume her concern has nothing to do with homophobia, which is the only thing I would truly damn her on. She concerns about a too closer (love) relationship between Dorian and the Inquisitor, regardless the Inquisitor's gender, the point is a possible manipulation from Tevinter Imperium. Ahh I seeee, okay, that makes sense. Well, in that case I can forgive her concern. The Herald of Andraste being the lover of a Tevinter magister (obligatory mustache twirl) is understandably concerning to a Chantry priest.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2017 18:43:33 GMT
Mother Giselle has NO reason to trust Dorian, none at all. That doesn't give her the right to follow Dorian into a library and harass/interrogate/tell him how unwelcome he is. If she has concerns that he's a blood mage influencing Inq's mind, bring your concerns through the official channels to Cullen. It's his job to kick information out of blood mage suspects. It's one thing not to trust someone. It's another to follow them around and keep telling them to go get lost because they're not welcome.
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Post by nvanfleet on Oct 31, 2017 19:03:27 GMT
Mother Giselle has NO reason to trust Dorian, none at all. That doesn't give her the right to follow Dorian into a library and harass/interrogate/tell him how unwelcome he is. If she has concerns that he's a blood mage influencing Inq's mind, bring your concerns through the official channels to Cullen. It's his job to kick information out of blood mage suspects. It's one thing not to trust someone. It's another to follow them around and keep telling them to go get lost because they're not welcome. This. Plus the gossipy old nag all but admits she's been spreading rumors that she not dare repeat for the Inq's ears. She's a busybody and a fusspot and legitimate worries or no all she's doing is badgering Dorian to try to get him to go away.
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That doesn't give her the right to follow Dorian into a library and harass/interrogate/tell him how unwelcome he is. If she has concerns that he's a blood mage influencing Inq's mind, bring your concerns through the official channels to Cullen. It's his job to kick information out of blood mage suspects. It's one thing not to trust someone. It's another to follow them around and keep telling them to go get lost because they're not welcome. This. Plus the gossipy old nag all but admits she's been spreading rumors that she not dare repeat for the Inq's ears. She's a busybody and a fusspot and legitimate worries or no all she's doing is badgering Dorian to try to get him to go away. It's not just about her being rude. I found this situation to be threatening because it could escalate into violence against Dorian. Rather than diffusing the situation, which is her direct job to help people find some peace of mind and keep panic at bay, she cannot because she's feeding her own prejudices into it and making it worse. This doesn't negate that she means well because she also sees the possibility of this violence and wants to eliminate it. But, her solution is not to enlighten the idiots, but to make Dorian go away or at least make him stay away from the Inquisitor.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2017 12:47:50 GMT
Sooo... Halloween! I'm curious how many have searched the stores for a sexy Templar costume or Cullen's fluffy cape?
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Post by Catilina on Nov 1, 2017 13:59:24 GMT
Sooo... Halloween! I'm curious how many have searched the stores for a sexy Templar costume or Cullen's fluffy cape? I imagined my Hawke with Anders in Templar costume... ...like this?:
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Sooo... Halloween! I'm curious how many have searched the stores for a sexy Templar costume or Cullen's fluffy cape? I imagined my Hawke with Anders in Templar costume... ...like this?: You drew this? List of DO NOT do things in DA 523: don't taunt the bears 524: don't play Templar knock knock jokes with Anders 525: don't dress up as abomination on Halloween and ask Cullen 'trick or treat'
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Post by Catilina on Nov 1, 2017 17:24:37 GMT
I imagined my Hawke with Anders in Templar costume... ...like this?: You drew this? List of DO NOT do things in DA 523: don't taunt the bears 524: don't play Templar knock knock jokes with Anders 525: don't dress up as abomination on Halloween and ask Cullen 'trick or treat' No, I just found it.
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Source mageflower.deviantart.com/art/A-Game-of-Wicked-Grace-530898560 Oh that's just cute when someone else other than Cullen loses a game and he's empathetic (and turning away from them stripping). "I don't remember having to.. ever.. strip down in any games I've played.."
"Wow really? I figured you Wardens boring, but not that boring."
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I can never get enough of these two boys! Source
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Post by ComedicSociopathy on Nov 3, 2017 16:37:43 GMT
If only MRyder was half as attractive (or interesting) as Cully-Wully. (Sighs)
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Post by melbella on Nov 3, 2017 19:56:19 GMT
He looked a lot more like Cullen in the first video reveals. Not sure what happened to change that. Maybe that was why they changed him?
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Post by boxofscreaming on Nov 4, 2017 19:16:19 GMT
I'm confused why they call him Commander Cullen. Shouldn't it be Commander Rutherford? Obviously Ser Cullen made sense when he was a Templar as knights are known by their first name, but shouldn't a title like Commander be followed by a surname?
It's Seeker Pentaghast, Ambassador Montilyet, Inquisitor Cadash/Trevelyan/Adaar/Lavellan, after all.
Poor Cullen, where's his respect?
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Post by melbella on Nov 4, 2017 19:18:36 GMT
Probably because no one would know who the heck he was if called by his last name. Maybe they should have made Rutherford his first name?
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Post by Artemis on Nov 4, 2017 20:11:01 GMT
I'm confused why they call him Commander Cullen. Shouldn't it be Commander Rutherford? Obviously Ser Cullen made sense when he was a Templar as knights are known by their first name, but shouldn't a title like Commander be followed by a surname? It's Seeker Pentaghast, Ambassador Montilyet, Inquisitor Cadash/Trevelyan/Adaar/Lavellan, after all. Poor Cullen, where's his respect? Look at you, putting way more thought into this than the writers EVER did
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