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Post by LadyofNemesis on May 7, 2020 9:33:33 GMT
...my canon Quizzy has a case of survivor's guilt after In Hushed Whispers and keeps having nightmares about that alternate future for quite a while I mean, the advisors read the reports about what happened, but only you and Dorian experience it (remember, the other squad members don't go into the future with you) I head canon she and Cullen help each other through the nightmares Especially with my headcanon world where things went even worse in that dark future (having to kill Red Templar Cullen and finding evidence of her clan, including her daughter, being killed by Venatori - I swear I only torment her because she's one of Mamma's favorites...), she's got her own bit of PTSD by the time she gets to Skyhold. When everything that happened in the future comes out and they realize how bad she took it, I envision Cullen kicking himself for not noticing the signs earlier. Like you, I think they could help each other through their nightmares and experiences. hm... I think it's because Cullen wants to protect people? Maybe he's angry he wasn't there to help? (I've no idea ) I think you're right, I feel like at his core Cullen wants to protect. He joined the Templars to not only protect good people from bad mages, but also to protect good mages from bad people. In Kirkwall he still wants to protect, but his past and Meredith's grooming have him wearing blinders as to who needs protecting from whom. In Inquisition he still wants to protect, but can't do so as directly as he could before. He's stuck at home so to speak, and probably feels the others aren't taking some threats as seriously as he thinks they should, so he gets frustrated and lashes out (and I'm sure the above mentioned withdrawl/PTSD fallout isn't helping his temper any). I think there was more I wanted to comment on, but forgot to quick quote it and probably typed enough already anyway... I love that thing you linked *saves it to dashboard*
tormenting our favorites is something we have in common Like...I love tormenting my canon Amell/Surana Warden by not giving her an in-game romance and breaking apart her friendship with Alistair by recruiting Loghain my canon Hawke has conflicted feelings toward Anders' fate during the end game (he ends up killed in my canon)
as for my Quizzy...I've yet to decide if I want Trevelyan or Lavellan as my canon Inquisitor...I already have a whole head canon story for the former in my head, but tend to end up making the latter in the game itself...those do not go together however at her core, my Inquisitor remains this insecure mess regardless of origin, which is only strengthened by being thrown in the role of Herald/Inquisitor that she does not want at all. Then IHW and IYHSB roll around and well...let's just say she has had some cases of emotional breakdowns and cases of trying to run away on multiple occasions (only for someone to come bring her back) at one point I also made a de-frosting ice queen Trevelyan in my head canon who's closer to a tranquil in emotional range and makes people wonder if she has emotions at all cue one of her outbursts and yes, she does have emotions...Josie was concerned the hall would remain frozen forever
-- And I think that's one of Cullen's core qualities, his will to protect people regardless of who they might be. I do feel like those core beliefs were altered by the events of Broken Circle and his time in DA2, but they're still there by the time Inquisition rolls around I think Cullen is at his best, still some of the insecurities brought on by what happened but also grown by the experience as the Inquisitor says in one of their romance scenes "for what it's worth, I like who you are now"
also...to close of my post have some art
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Post by Sonya on May 7, 2020 10:17:43 GMT
there were still times I wanted to smack him (felt that way with Fenris and even Zev a few times) In my PTs it usually happens with Fenris. Though do not recall such cases with Zevran. There is so much more to them than some people seem to realize. Usual things. Zevran wanted to kill the GW. But the truth - Zevran wanted GW to kill him. And how do I know that? Because I talked to him many times, took to mission and understood what kind of person Zevran is: the most dedicated character. Even if I kinda like Alistair (but after DAI conversations I started to hate him at the same time thanks to BW devs and think that he, with some outcomes in DAO, is just lying POS), Zevran is a better person imo (Alistair is just another topic). Fenris is often called some emoboy. Fenris always tells the truth, he never asks anything (only in act 3 asks to help with his sister), if he was wrong, he admits it and always apologizes. He has no past as has no memories, he does not know what it means to trust a person, to have a family, friends, a person who actually loves him. How do I know that? Talked to him, listened PBs, did his quests, and yes, had patience as with Zevran. People tend to abandon characters if see something they do not like in the very beginning. For me e.g., Zevran ambush/ Fenris not trusting me in the beginning/ Sera, hinding her past and making interesting speeches - a sign that such characters are not what they seem. In MEU Jack is such a person e.g., she is the only LI for my male Shep. But Jack is so unpopular. Only her LM tells so much about her even if it is very short, talking to her as a male opens other facts. In one DLC the "tattoo scene" is just amazing. Only no, Jack is just rude, bald, almost naked woman from the prison with many tattoos. Nothing else. Sad. He just looks so happy and carefree. Yeah, I really like this image and how Cullen is depicted here: happy, has everything he's dreamed of, calm, relaxed (will forget for now that there is still an asshole trying to screw up again and kill everyone). until Skyhold that they really start to talk He joined the Templars to not only protect good people from bad mages, but also to protect good mages from bad people. Took these two parts as want to add one thing that concerns understanding Cullen as a character. Childhood, family, the place where he lived, events that happened back there (the same with Sera btw) - this part of life is one of things that should be studied to understand a character. As people know certain periods of human life are more importnat to form character's views. The part with becoming a templar is also very important - he begged to take him fo training, but always heard "no". He indeed wanted to protect and insisted, saw himself only in that role. Such decication paid off: finally was taken for training. Cullen has a good family (only lost his parents), even plays chess, that dedication and great desire to become a templar to protect says much about him. Only later played a really bad role. That he went through all that and remained a good person - it is just something.
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Post by necrowaif on May 23, 2020 1:22:10 GMT
Have you seen this fan art making the rounds on Twitter? MRRROWR
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Post by turianlannister on Dec 8, 2020 1:41:33 GMT
Greg Ellis uploaded a rant about SJWs in character as Cullen
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Post by phoray on Dec 12, 2020 3:59:59 GMT
If Solas had done this to help Cullen, I maybe wouldn't murder him in DA4.
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Post by Iddy on Dec 17, 2020 17:28:31 GMT
Greg Ellis uploaded a rant about SJWs in character as Cullen Based.
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Post by Sokemis on Apr 4, 2021 22:15:53 GMT
Just going to leave this right here... Don't do Lyrium kids
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Post by LadyofNemesis on Apr 5, 2021 21:00:02 GMT
Just going to leave this right here... Don't do Lyrium kids especially not the red kind...it's bad
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Post by bierkrug on May 31, 2021 12:34:47 GMT
Sooo... any chance this character is ever going to appear again? Or did that chance fly out of the window along with his VAs sanity?
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Post by vella on Jun 5, 2021 10:08:02 GMT
In my opinion, there's no need for Cullen to reappear especially if Inky is not the protagonist of the DA4. If he does have a big role in the next game (which I doubt) Bioware can just recast him with someone with similar enough of a voice. For me, that's fine. I'm a Cullen fan, not a Greg Ellis fan. As far as I'm concerned, Ellis didn't create this character even though he did a good job giving him a voice.
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Post by bierkrug on Jun 7, 2021 10:04:35 GMT
In my opinion, there's no need for Cullen to reappear especially if Inky is not the protagonist of the DA4. I see your reasoning but the guy seems like such a staple for the franchise, I would be disappointed if he doesn't get a cameo at least. Same with the likes of Alistair, Morrigan, etc. Though they'd probably have more of a plot reason to still be around.
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Post by Iddy on Sept 8, 2021 4:34:12 GMT
I wonder if anyone has made a fanart of Cullen and Lavellan as John Smith and Pocahontas
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Post by Buckeldemon on Sept 8, 2021 7:24:59 GMT
I wonder if anyone has made a fanart of Cullen and Lavellan as John Smith and Pocahontas From what I have read, it seems to be a thing in certain parts of the fandom. Native/First Nations players tend to find it disgusting though, for what I think are very understandable reasons.
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Post by LadyofNemesis on Sept 9, 2021 18:01:34 GMT
I wonder if anyone has made a fanart of Cullen and Lavellan as John Smith and Pocahontas there are...I've seen a few, but it's not really my cup of tea
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Post by phoray on Sept 12, 2021 21:11:46 GMT
there are...I've seen a few, but it's not really my cup of tea I know my gut reaction was a big EW. I know the Disney John Smith didn't ultimately think of her as a "savage" . But Cullen worked with elves in the towers, and if he ever had that opinion it would be pretty gross. Since canon he has a huge crush on the Warden Mage, regardless of race, I don't think he has ever had that thought.
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Post by LadyofNemesis on Sept 12, 2021 21:18:50 GMT
there are...I've seen a few, but it's not really my cup of tea I know my gut reaction was a big EW. I know the Disney John Smith didn't ultimately think of her as a "savage" . But Cullen worked with elves in the towers, and if he ever had that opinion it would be pretty gross. Since canon he has a huge crush on the Warden Mage, regardless of race, I don't think he has ever had that thought. Oh I quite agree...I mean, the art itself was quite nice, but the subject in question...err...
I like Cullen, but oftentimes I'm a bit worried about liking him at all...since his character is often brought into question one way or another but eh *shrug* if we were to put down any of Bioware's characters (or any other character for that matter) there wouldn't be many left to like
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Post by phoray on Sept 12, 2021 22:00:27 GMT
LadyofNemesisWhen it comes to Cullen and Blackwall/T.R., the fact that they were products of their environment but then realized that point of view was shit, and then worked on themselves over time, means a lot to me. One could argue they should have been imprisoned and served out their time for "crimes" but what Cullen did was actually "legal", sanctioned, what have you. So not only did he have PTSD, he was encouraged to keep acting out his pain and paranoia by Meredith, the highest tier of leadership in Kirkwall since the Viscount was neutered. There are a lot of murderers in DA that have no regret. Like Viv, Sera, Leliana... but whatever. The point is, Cullen is tarnished, historically, but his actions count for a lot in the present time.
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Post by Iddy on Mar 31, 2022 12:43:18 GMT
I'm watching Attack on Titan and, well... I think I've found a Cullen.
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Post by GalentheYounger on Oct 31, 2024 15:48:28 GMT
I wonder how/if the Cullen romance was referenced in Veilguard. Does anyone know? My understanding is that it was a letter of some sort.
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