Too many fs

2nd page? Entirely too long before this was posted.

Whether swearing is "juvenile" or not is a rather silly criticism, given most "mature" or "adult" entertainment (novels, television, film, games, etc.) has an overabundance of swearing. Of course, if you are really this concerned about strong language, I'd recommend looking at the actual rating of the game next time and noticing the "Strong Language" label. The ESRB exists for a reason:

Content Descriptors: Blood, Nudity, Strong Language, Strong Sexual Content, Violence

www.esrb.org/ratings/Synopsis.aspx?Certificate=34833&Title=Mass+Effect%u2122%3a+Andromeda

What?

Thank you to those who understood me - in agreement or disagreement. Yes, the point isn't the word 'fuck', it is a too-often usage of it throughout times in the game that came off as immature, not mature.

Thank you to those who didn't understand me but I could chalk up to very different perspectives, like being surrounded by or using so much swearing that its actually comparatively less appealing to hear a mature game without this level of use of fuck.

And my frustrations to those who didn't seem to even read my first post, let alone follow-ups. That was very annoying. Calling my topic whining, thinking that I don't enjoy media with an abundance of swearing, and so on. I only think there's context in media and different levels of sensitivity about it - I think even most here would notice the jarring change if nearly every sentence of dialogue tried to fit in "motherfuckers" with the VA putting on a rude attitude. That's an extreme and nearly impossible (except in fanfiction) example, but my point is that I noticed a far more soft version of that in MEA. In some cases it worked - particular characters in particular circumstances, or understanding Ryder as more of a 'twenty something' with a bit of this tendency, or really just a great delivery of the lines - but often to me it didn't just fall flat, but help give an impression of a weaker script than ever.

Maybe I should have offered such detail in my OP, but that didn't really call for the offensive posts against me and defensive comments about swears existing in games. I knew some of that was going to happen - any OP one makes is going to be misunderstood by someone - but I didn't expect this much. Maybe its more of a hot topic than I thought?

I'm probably done with the thread now.

What's the alternative? We don't have access to the real slang from centuries hence, and wouldn't understand it if we heard it.

Just because use inappropriate language does not make for bad writing.

"S**t" and "F**k" was used in DA:I a noticeable number of times. I remember being particularly raising an eyebrow in Varric's conversation. The trouble is that it is hard to judge the dose sometimes, and what one person finds hilarious, another finds gratuitous. Just like the nekkid scenes. Also, banter order is random, so sometimes you might be pelleted by it, sometimes everyone is civil. For example, I found Jaal vs Liam banters were Jaal is trying to swear like a human a total riot :) It always takes me a while to get used to Modernized Dark Ages when I play DA franchise, and I am more accepting of it in ME verse, because ever since Aria said her famous line with gusto, it became a device they use... probably overuse sometimes. It does not hurt to hint that maybe they should be judicious, imo. The game is not short on humor and slapstick as is.

That's always part of the writing process and I'm sure it could lead to extensive discussion.

I agree that it at least mostly fit the setting. I also did not find it incredibly jarring, but noticeably jarring at more than a few moments. More than any previous Bioware game for sure.

Boyfriend is from Quebec but if anything he gained a fouler mouth (used to go "Fudge!" instead) from me.

But yeah the reputation, aside from outliers like this, is pretty well earned.

Seriously though. Game of Thrones, Spartacus, Black Sails, DEADWOOD. And if swearing is bad.....Quentin Tarantino says hi. And did I mention DEADWOOD? And again, Spartacus. They made vulgarity into goddamn poetry. People curse, saying "shoot" and "darn it" in tense situations, or funny ones, really stops being said once you hit your teens and up.

Ok, I don't really care about the swear words used in the game one way or the other, they don't bother me, but can we stop exaggerating? No one is getting "up in arms", no one is "whining", and no one's "sensitive disposition" is getting hurt. I highly doubt the OP was upset or "up in arms" upon writing this post and his complaint was about how he thinks the amount of swearing shows how bad the writing is. Simply his opinion.

It seems like, anytime someone has an issue this game the general response is to blow that person's issue way out of proportion and say "Stop complaining!" in one way or another.