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Post by smilesja on Apr 12, 2017 2:08:18 GMT
You and your fixation with the trilogy that came before. Why do you think most of this community bought the game? The reason why I even considered buying this smoldering dumpsterfire was because I found each of those titles, on their own, compelling. I replayed ME1 & 2 many times, because they wowed me enough to play the game as both genders and both dispositions because I wanted more. When I wanted more ME3, I did not replay as much, instead loving the MP. What part of this don't you get? You can claim that the issues in Andromeda were extant in the earlier games, and in many cases you are right. What you constantly ignore, for reasons I cannot fathom, is that despite those tropey cheesy things that appeared in each game, we loved those games for the most part. The reason - on balance, the good material far outweighed the boring/obvious/cheesy. Your shit is thin and transparent. As one grown man to another, your a pain in the ass. See now others are catching on to his/her posts. This is my response to her/him in another thread - Apr 11, 2017 23:45:33 GMT 1 solomace said:
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True. What we need are:
1) Day one DLC introducing a major character that had a bearing on the main story
2) A DLC that fills in huge plot holes missing from the main story mission
3) A DLC to rewrite the culmination of the story and to fill in more plotholes
4) some outfit DLC
5) a DLC that bridges to the next game cramming in the setup for that game whilst simultaneously rewriting the lore and introducing another plothole
Then it would feel like Mass Effect.
Lol. The more I read your countless posts in every thread, the more I feel you don't even like the original MET. All you do is spew nothing but how bad MET is in your eyes.
Your whole stance on defending MEA is that MET had all the same faults so why are people not enjoying MET.
You got called out by someone who said you had an agenda and the more you post the more I'm starting to agree with them.
Why not try to defend MEA on it's merits that you think it has rather than trying to bring down the MET to the same level as MEA which is never gonna happen.
Once again defending MEA by trashing MET. Glad to see others are calling him/her out. It's not that he doesn't like the MET. It's just that it had some similar flaws and cheese like ME: A. |
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Post by Exile Isan on Apr 12, 2017 2:27:07 GMT
I'm not sure what you mean here - is that "someone who couldn't do the job" referring to Cora or young Ryder? I meant young Ryder, sorry for not being clearer, I was typing on my Kindle which is always a challenge. If Ryder wasn't leader material at least Cora would have had the training to fall back on, but Ryder does have those traits so Alec transfer Pathfinder status to them for the reason, but also the other reasons discovered at the end of the Ryder Family Secrets quest. I don't think she's quite there yet, but she's close. "Laid a foundation" as she says. And I agree that events do help her with the hero worship stuff. Yes, he did. But it would make sense that all of the Pathfinder team would bring different skills to the table. Cora: biotics/huntress training, Liam: search and rescue, Sara/Scott: recon, etc. is what I meant. And I think at least the Pathfinder and the second in command would have the characteristics you describe. |
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Post by solomace on Apr 12, 2017 2:50:39 GMT
It's not that he doesn't like the MET. It's just that it had some similar flaws and cheese like ME: A. The point is in every thread he takes down MET. We all know about the flaws in MET and as many have mentioned we either choose to ignore or they don't bother us. Some have their own reasons as to why, but to me it's because I love all 3 and it has a certain sparkle/magic that means I can forgive those things that others say are flaws. TBH, a lot of the flaws people say about the MET, I've not even noticed until people have mentioned them on here and yet it still doesn't spoil my enjoyment of playing ME1 again which I am btw. ME2 will still be my fav, plot and all which once again I enjoyed the ride without getting hung up on plot holes. 3 was an excellent journey until the end but I still love the game, the music and that magic sparkle. Heck I played the MP part to death! MEA just doesn't have any of that magic and the reviews/vids/and my trial all say similar things. My biggest issue is really, so what if MET has faults. Why should I and others accept MEA because of METs faults? This is what his posts seem to do and they don't just point out similar flaws, they completely try to ripped apart MET. Look, I love the original Star Wars Trilogy. Is the writing pants, yes, is it cheesy, yes, is it magical yes. The same arguments were made by some about TFA and it's just a reboot and yada yada yada. The differences is it doesn't have the sprinkle of magic like the original Star Wars as it tries too hard to emulate it and misses the mark. It's not a bad film at all and I enjoyed it but it's not Star Wars. The same with MEA. But getting back on point, his posts have been noticed by many others now and it's coming across as the only way he can defend MEA is by trashing MET. Rose coloured spectacles could be in place for a lot of people, but not me as I play all the Trilogy at least twice through every year and have done since ME3. Even more so when I found the mods for the game with new powers. Best gaming franchise i've ever played and I had a Vectrex so I know what real games are  . |
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Post by smilesja on Apr 12, 2017 3:30:29 GMT
It's not that he doesn't like the MET. It's just that it had some similar flaws and cheese like ME: A. The point is in every thread he takes down MET. We all know about the flaws in MET and as many have mentioned we either choose to ignore or they don't bother us. Some have their own reasons as to why, but to me it's because I love all 3 and it has a certain sparkle/magic that means I can forgive those things that others say are flaws. TBH, a lot of the flaws people say about the MET, I've not even noticed until people have mentioned them on here and yet it still doesn't spoil my enjoyment of playing ME1 again which I am btw. ME2 will still be my fav, plot and all which once again I enjoyed the ride without getting hung up on plot holes. 3 was an excellent journey until the end but I still love the game, the music and that magic sparkle. Heck I played the MP part to death! MEA just doesn't have any of that magic and the reviews/vids/and my trial all say similar things. My biggest issue is really, so what if MET has faults. Why should I and others accept MEA because of METs faults? This is what his posts seem to do and they don't just point out similar flaws, they completely try to ripped apart MET. Look, I love the original Star Wars Trilogy. Is the writing pants, yes, is it cheesy, yes, is it magical yes. The same arguments were made by some about TFA and it's just a reboot and yada yada yada. The differences is it doesn't have the sprinkle of magic like the original Star Wars as it tries too hard to emulate it and misses the mark. It's not a bad film at all and I enjoyed it but it's not Star Wars. The same with MEA. But getting back on point, his posts have been noticed by many others now and it's coming across as the only way he can defend MEA is by trashing MET. Rose coloured spectacles could be in place for a lot of people, but not me as I play all the Trilogy at least twice through every year and have done since ME3. Even more so when I found the mods for the game with new powers. Best gaming franchise i've ever played and I had a Vectrex so I know what real games are . I don't care what the reviews say i love ME A and there were noticeable flaws in the me t that are often overlooked creating a double standard sometimes |
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Post by solomace on Apr 12, 2017 3:42:23 GMT
The point is in every thread he takes down MET. We all know about the flaws in MET and as many have mentioned we either choose to ignore or they don't bother us. Some have their own reasons as to why, but to me it's because I love all 3 and it has a certain sparkle/magic that means I can forgive those things that others say are flaws. TBH, a lot of the flaws people say about the MET, I've not even noticed until people have mentioned them on here and yet it still doesn't spoil my enjoyment of playing ME1 again which I am btw. ME2 will still be my fav, plot and all which once again I enjoyed the ride without getting hung up on plot holes. 3 was an excellent journey until the end but I still love the game, the music and that magic sparkle. Heck I played the MP part to death! MEA just doesn't have any of that magic and the reviews/vids/and my trial all say similar things. My biggest issue is really, so what if MET has faults. Why should I and others accept MEA because of METs faults? This is what his posts seem to do and they don't just point out similar flaws, they completely try to ripped apart MET. Look, I love the original Star Wars Trilogy. Is the writing pants, yes, is it cheesy, yes, is it magical yes. The same arguments were made by some about TFA and it's just a reboot and yada yada yada. The differences is it doesn't have the sprinkle of magic like the original Star Wars as it tries too hard to emulate it and misses the mark. It's not a bad film at all and I enjoyed it but it's not Star Wars. The same with MEA. But getting back on point, his posts have been noticed by many others now and it's coming across as the only way he can defend MEA is by trashing MET. Rose coloured spectacles could be in place for a lot of people, but not me as I play all the Trilogy at least twice through every year and have done since ME3. Even more so when I found the mods for the game with new powers. Best gaming franchise i've ever played and I had a Vectrex so I know what real games are . I don't care what the reviews say i love ME A and there were noticeable flaws in the me t that are often overlooked creating a double standard sometimes And I don't care that you love MEA. I don't even care about double standards that you're now trying to shove in now as a way to once again defend MEA. I've already told you why I accept flaws in MET and not in MEA and others will have their opinions. It's not double standards. The point I've made and others have is that to defend this game you both think the best way is to try and bring down MET. You're both starting to sound like silly little fanboys that cannot accept that people like MET and don't like MEA. The difference is people can understand why you both like/love MEA and some like me don't even care that you do, but I and I bet others don't understand the need you both have to trash MET or pick out flaws just to back up your love of MEA. |
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Post by smilesja on Apr 12, 2017 3:56:46 GMT
I don't care what the reviews say i love ME A and there were noticeable flaws in the me t that are often overlooked creating a double standard sometimes And I don't care that you love MEA. I don't even care about double standards that you're now trying to shove in now as a way to once again defend MEA. I've already told you why I accept flaws in MET and not in MEA and others will have their opinions. It's not double standards. The point I've made and others have is that to defend this game you both think the best way is to try and bring down MET. You're both starting to sound like silly little fanboys that cannot accept that people like MET and don't like MEA. The difference is people can understand why you both like/love MEA and some like me don't even care that you do, but I and I bet others don't understand the need you both have to trash MET or pick out flaws just to back up your love of MEA. You know just you could just stop calling us fanboys, I know why people like MET and not ME:A. What I don't like is people just condemning ME: A for the same flaws that MET had. I've defended the game without "thrashing" the MET. |
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And I don't care that you love MEA. I don't even care about double standards that you're now trying to shove in now as a way to once again defend MEA. I've already told you why I accept flaws in MET and not in MEA and others will have their opinions. It's not double standards. The point I've made and others have is that to defend this game you both think the best way is to try and bring down MET. You're both starting to sound like silly little fanboys that cannot accept that people like MET and don't like MEA. The difference is people can understand why you both like/love MEA and some like me don't even care that you do, but I and I bet others don't understand the need you both have to trash MET or pick out flaws just to back up your love of MEA. You know just you could just stop calling us fanboys, I know why people like MET and not ME:A. What I don't like is people just condemning ME: A for the same flaws that MET had. I've defended the game without "thrashing" the MET. And yet they try to claim the high ground despite all the shit flinging they partake in... it isn't worth it. Let them hate this game and bitch endlessly. I've started using the ignore function and it is sweet, sweet silence now that much of the tired refrains are tucked away. |
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Post by suikoden on Apr 12, 2017 4:24:43 GMT
You know just you could just stop calling us fanboys, I know why people like MET and not ME:A. What I don't like is people just condemning ME: A for the same flaws that MET had. I've defended the game without "thrashing" the MET. And yet they try to claim the high ground despite all the shit flinging they partake in... it isn't worth it. Let them hate this game and bitch endlessly. I've started using the ignore function and it is sweet, sweet silence now that much of the tired refrains are tucked away. And yet here you are, in the "biggest weakness" thread. Again. Taking that high ground! Being all passive aggressive! Latest find, this review: gamecritics.com/mike-suskie/mass-effect-andromeda-review/35% New low score record! |
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Post by mordrek on Apr 12, 2017 5:27:23 GMT
You know just you could just stop calling us fanboys, I know why people like MET and not ME:A. What I don't like is people just condemning ME: A for the same flaws that MET had. I've defended the game without "thrashing" the MET. And yet they try to claim the high ground despite all the shit flinging they partake in... it isn't worth it. Let them hate this game and bitch endlessly. I've started using the ignore function and it is sweet, sweet silence now that much of the tired refrains are tucked away. And yet you continually come back and read all the negative threads, and bitch about it. I'll say it again, this is like walking into a Rape Survivors Support Group, and saying, "Rape's not so bad, I was fine after mine." Your positive fanboy opinions are not what people are looking for in a thread titled... wait for it... Andromeda biggest weakness |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2017 6:37:59 GMT
It is nowhere near as interesting as mass effect one, either in story, gameplay, or character design. It's a shadow of the corpse of Mass Effect. The QA is terrible (I'm in QA. This game is terrible in so many ways). In fact it looks like everyone who bought it is in effect beta testing - even alpha testing this sloppy dull garbage. It's copy paste, everything about this game is ME1 redux. You are just blinded, because ME1 was new and shiny. But I played ME1 a little later without fan glasses on and it's basically the same. Just stop the denial. I guess I like following plot. You know that any decent story has? Andromeda is just empty space with a few side quests and Cerberus MkII. Utterly boring and tedious. Enjoy that if you want. Me I'd rather play anything but. I bought it and I won't be finishing it. What a total waste of money. |
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Post by Conquer Your Dreams on Apr 12, 2017 6:52:35 GMT
And yet they try to claim the high ground despite all the shit flinging they partake in... it isn't worth it. Let them hate this game and bitch endlessly. I've started using the ignore function and it is sweet, sweet silence now that much of the tired refrains are tucked away. And yet you continually come back and read all the negative threads, and bitch about it. I'll say it again, this is like walking into a Rape Survivors Support Group, and saying, "Rape's not so bad, I was fine after mine." Your positive fanboy opinions are not what people are looking for in a thread titled... wait for it... Andromeda biggest weaknessYeah, it seems that very neutral and personal topic become another battlefield for haters vs. lovers. There are already a lot of other topics where you can fight and shout as much as you want. I'd rather find out how other people feel, in an emotional sense - the trilogy was based on that. Personally I think that Andromeda is NOT a bad game; I got a lot of fun playing it, but it lacks emotions, heart, something deeper. The worst thing is that BioWare KNOWS how to write great characters; they made so many of them in so many different games, but here ? In other titles I got sometimes A REALLY BIG PROBLEM to choose my LI - feeling so bad choosing Miri instead of Tali or Morrigan instead of Leliana; but here ? Hard to find even one interesting character. I go with Cora, but to be honest I could be even Gill, Addison or someone from the poster - it does not make any difference cause all those characters are just uninteresting. |
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Post by vonuber on Apr 12, 2017 7:08:26 GMT
Your shit is thin and transparent. As one grown man to another, your a pain in the ass. Thanks! For the record I liked the trilogy obviously, I'm just not blind to its flaws - some of the same flaws that are present here yet ME:A is getting blasted for. Should they be present? Probably not, you'd have hoped bioware would have improved on the MET. What I am seeing is a whole load of rose tinted glasses - to the point where even the main plot of ME2 is now apparently great. Bioware was never going to win with ME:A and I think (technical issues and some annoying design changes aside) they've done an OK job. It's a solid 7.5/10. If thinking this makes me a pain in the arse then ho-hum, such is life. As one grown man to another: if you don't like ME:A don't play it, go play the MET or something else. Or go for a walk. Make yourself a brew and have a custard cream. |
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Post by vonuber on Apr 12, 2017 7:22:37 GMT
The point is in every thread he takes down MET. We all know about the flaws in MET and as many have mentioned we either choose to ignore or they don't bother us. Some have their own reasons as to why, but to me it's because I love all 3 and it has a certain sparkle/magic that means I can forgive those things that others say are flaws. TBH, a lot of the flaws people say about the MET, I've not even noticed until people have mentioned them on here and yet it still doesn't spoil my enjoyment of playing ME1 again which I am btw. ME2 will still be my fav, plot and all which once again I enjoyed the ride without getting hung up on plot holes. 3 was an excellent journey until the end but I still love the game, the music and that magic sparkle. Heck I played the MP part to death! MEA just doesn't have any of that magic and the reviews/vids/and my trial all say similar things. My biggest issue is really, so what if MET has faults. Why should I and others accept MEA because of METs faults? This is what his posts seem to do and they don't just point out similar flaws, they completely try to ripped apart MET. Look, I love the original Star Wars Trilogy. Is the writing pants, yes, is it cheesy, yes, is it magical yes. The same arguments were made by some about TFA and it's just a reboot and yada yada yada. The differences is it doesn't have the sprinkle of magic like the original Star Wars as it tries too hard to emulate it and misses the mark. It's not a bad film at all and I enjoyed it but it's not Star Wars. The same with MEA. But getting back on point, his posts have been noticed by many others now and it's coming across as the only way he can defend MEA is by trashing MET. Rose coloured spectacles could be in place for a lot of people, but not me as I play all the Trilogy at least twice through every year and have done since ME3. Even more so when I found the mods for the game with new powers. Best gaming franchise i've ever played and I had a Vectrex so I know what real games are . I've dished out my own criticism of ME:A. My point is that a lot of what it is critiqued on has been present in all the previous 3 games and is nothing new. ME:A has great combat, some great world design, some good dialogue (certainly much more humorous than the previous 3), some good characters i like, some interesting missions, some good crafting ideas etc. Note it's all 'some' - there is also some which aren't good, and some design decisions you do have to wonder about - I'm glad they made the travel skippable now for example. ME:A has also a fairly meh main plot (I've not finished it yet so I'll see how it goes) and a fairly dull new race; it also suffer from a poor UI and I'm still not sold on the profile system. Some of the side quests are just dressed up mail delivery quests. I could go on in both directions but it's a bit redundant, a lot of people have already made up their mind on this. At the end of the day I'm having fun playing it, and that is all that matters. |
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Post by mordrek on Apr 12, 2017 7:30:17 GMT
Your shit is thin and transparent. As one grown man to another, your a pain in the ass. Thanks! For the record I liked the trilogy obviously, I'm just not blind to its flaws - some of the same flaws that are present here yet ME:A is getting blasted for. Should they be present? Probably not, you'd have hoped bioware would have improved on the MET. What I am seeing is a whole load of rose tinted glasses - to the point where even the main plot of ME2 is now apparently great. Bioware was never going to win with ME:A and I think (technical issues and some annoying design changes aside) they've done an OK job. It's a solid 7.5/10. If thinking this makes me a pain in the arse then ho-hum, such is life. As one grown man to another: if you don't like ME:A don't play it, go play the MET or something else. Or go for a walk. Make yourself a brew and have a custard cream. Sorry that's silly. I think for those of us underwhelmed by Andromeda, it's the fact we see the framework for the great game it could have been, but for various reasons it failed. What makes people like you a pain in the ass, is that you think your opinion is something we should value, and listen to. See fanboys like you come in, and tell people their wrong, they don't remember right, or some other stupid shit, and then say other childish or silly thing like "if you don't like it don't play it". If you are a grown man, then act like one, and don't use debate tactics most of us grew out of in junior high. P.S. - This isn't a review thread, it's about Andromeda's Weaknesses. Although I guess reading comprehension wasn't your strong point either. |
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Post by vonuber on Apr 12, 2017 7:36:38 GMT
What makes people like you a pain in the ass, is that you think your opinion is something we should value, and listen to. And I should listen to yours because...? And how can I be a fanboy by pointing out flaws in ME:A, MET and DA:I? Surely that the opposite? People are hell bent on comparing ME:A to the trilogy and that's fair enough - it's a valid comparison as they are in the same series. However through comparison works both ways: positive and negatives, something you fanboys (  ) of the MET don't seem to grasp. |
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Post by mordrek on Apr 12, 2017 7:38:59 GMT
What makes people like you a pain in the ass, is that you think your opinion is something we should value, and listen to. And I should listen to yours because...? And how can I be a fanboy by pointing out flaws in ME:A, MET and DA:I? Surely that the opposite? People are hell bent on comparing ME:A to the trilogy and that's fair enough - it's a valid comparison as they are in the same series. However through comparison works both ways: positive and negatives, something you fanboys ( ) of the MET don't seem to grasp. I guessed you just proved reading comprehension wasn't a strong point for you. |
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And yet they try to claim the high ground despite all the shit flinging they partake in... it isn't worth it. Let them hate this game and bitch endlessly. I've started using the ignore function and it is sweet, sweet silence now that much of the tired refrains are tucked away. And yet here you are, in the "biggest weakness" thread. Again. Taking that high ground! Being all passive aggressive! Latest find, this review: gamecritics.com/mike-suskie/mass-effect-andromeda-review/35% New low score record! Interesting review. I agree about what he said about Ryder: "represents the least agency BioWare has ever given players in shaping a protagonist’s personality" ...but definitely don't understand how he can compare Solas to Carth. |
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Post by Bergmaniac on Apr 12, 2017 8:09:40 GMT
I totally agree with the OP. The game is just embarrassingly badly written and as a result it lacks heart despite all the desperate attempts to show camaraderie and stuff like that. The silly dialogue and the endless lame jokes made most conversations a chore for me. add to that the mediocre OST and no wonder it completely failed to affect me emotionally except the times when I laughed out loud at how dumb the plot is. The game gives me no reason to care about Ryder the dumb snarky kid and his dumb annoying squadmates.
There is no originality whatsoever in the story, the whole main plot is a rehash of various parts of the original trilogy which weren't particularly original for the genre to begin with. Every "revelation" which I saw coming a mile away had me rolling my eyes.
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Post by qwib on Apr 12, 2017 10:57:25 GMT
It's copy paste, everything about this game is ME1 redux. You are just blinded, because ME1 was new and shiny. But I played ME1 a little later without fan glasses on and it's basically the same. Just stop the denial. I guess I like following plot. You know that any decent story has? Andromeda is just empty space with a few side quests and Cerberus MkII. Utterly boring and tedious. Enjoy that if you want. Me I'd rather play anything but. I bought it and I won't be finishing it. What a total waste of money. The plots are so identical of the two games. I applaud you for being able to write this with a straight face. Lol |
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Post by sdzald on Apr 12, 2017 15:45:05 GMT
The question really is does Bioware really want to hire professional writers when they're obviously happy with what they have so it seems. I assure you, BioWare maintains a full staff of professional writers. They're not volunteers or hobbyists (though some may have started out that way) - they do this for a living, and are thus paid professionals. Considering how often they step all over their own canon, how many freaking holes the main story and side story's have, how the main story is nothing more then a cut and paste from the original series, just with names changed, I certainly would not call them professional writers, at the very least not very good ones. A good writer, especially a Sci-Fi writer 'world builds' they then mold their story around that world, NOT the other way around. Sure you need to have flexibility in your characters and to a certain extant allow the player to shape the story. Andromeda doesn't even have that, your dialog choices and action choices have very little over all affect on the game world. |
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Post by smilesja on Apr 12, 2017 17:21:01 GMT
And yet they try to claim the high ground despite all the shit flinging they partake in... it isn't worth it. Let them hate this game and bitch endlessly. I've started using the ignore function and it is sweet, sweet silence now that much of the tired refrains are tucked away. And yet here you are, in the "biggest weakness" thread. Again. Taking that high ground! Being all passive aggressive! Latest find, this review: gamecritics.com/mike-suskie/mass-effect-andromeda-review/35% New low score record! A low score isn't going to change everyone's mind |
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Post by jackdaniel on Apr 12, 2017 18:22:54 GMT
I didn't feel it had a "biggest weakness", it has a laundry list crap that just adds up without anything good enough to redeem it. ME1 and ME3 had moments and scenes that just connects with me deeply, enough that I can selectively forget about the ending. ME2 didn't have that, but it was very well polished and was a incredibly good shooter for its time, so it was little mindless fun.
MEA has none of that. Not a moment where I was emotionally moved, not a moment where I was going into a mission with anticipation to find out how the plot unfolds, not a moment where I had to agonize what choice to pick. And on top of that, I was barely having fun.
It's really the nothingness that damn the game I think, cuz if I have nothing to like the game, all I got left is a list of complaint.
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Post by linksocarina on Apr 12, 2017 18:38:57 GMT
I assure you, BioWare maintains a full staff of professional writers. They're not volunteers or hobbyists (though some may have started out that way) - they do this for a living, and are thus paid professionals. Considering how often they step all over their own canon, how many freaking holes the main story and side story's have, how the main story is nothing more then a cut and paste from the original series, just with names changed, I certainly would not call them professional writers, at the very least not very good ones. A good writer, especially a Sci-Fi writer 'world builds' they then mold their story around that world, NOT the other way around. Sure you need to have flexibility in your characters and to a certain extant allow the player to shape the story. Andromeda doesn't even have that, your dialog choices and action choices have very little over all affect on the game world. True. But this is video game writing, in the end, which is designed to be sort of player-centric vs world centric. A lot of quest design and interaction is meant to be for the players benefit, whether it's story, a cool moment, a romance, exploring a vault, or what have you, and the world itself takes a bigger backseat due to this. Dragon Age gets away with being world centric because the world itself is the main attraction half of the time, the machinations and changing of shapes in Thedas and how it's all connected to each other. If there is one thing BioWare did right, it was emulate the Forgotten Realms style of world for Dragon Age. Mass Effect...never had a lot of world building to it. It was always character driven first and foremoest, especially with 2 and 3 in the original trilogy. Andromeda is trying to build a new setting with carry-over baggage to it. IT's why some things people consider plot holes are not really holes...it's following a Star Wars space opera vibe where the believability of the galaxy is not as important as the drama of the galaxy, pop sci-fi, which personally is much more fun than hard sci-fi. Like that moment where Kallo says there is no explosions or sound in space during the movie night, yet hours earlier we saw Kett ships blow up in space anyway. It's purposefully winking at the audience and not really focusing on every machination to make it a hard sci-fi setting.
The writers have been consistent with that for a while now, save for a few deviations to explain gameplay mechanic changes. So it would be foolish to say a good sci-fi writer only focuses on world-building in that respect, it does depend on the world you are trying to build first. As for choices...if you mean actual consequence, that will likely be coming in the future, but everything in the story told is building up to that consequence...such as how you deal with the Kett, the Angara, and other story spoilers. The only major consequences is how items tie into the final mission, including: Pathfinders, the fate of Capt Dunn, who helps you assault Meridian, and the outcome of the Kett with the Primus. They seem like small choices, but they do have an impact because again, the player is the one who selected them to begin with. To say they have no consequence is missing the point of the choice to begin with. |
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