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Post by Civ on Apr 12, 2017 18:41:01 GMT
Felt the same way as the OP.
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Post by suikoden on Apr 12, 2017 18:59:35 GMT
Felt the same way as the OP. It's just... Boring. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2017 19:10:39 GMT
I assure you, BioWare maintains a full staff of professional writers. They're not volunteers or hobbyists (though some may have started out that way) - they do this for a living, and are thus paid professionals. Considering how often they step all over their own canon, how many freaking holes the main story and side story's have, how the main story is nothing more then a cut and paste from the original series, just with names changed, I certainly would not call them professional writers, at the very least not very good ones. Canon? What canon would that be? Care to point out all these holes in the main story you've so deftly identified? You do realize this is not a continuation of MET, but a reboot of sorts, right? Well, they design a world with various characters and factions to set up the conflict(s) they intend to exploit and story they want to tell. Are you suggesting the MEA writers failed to do this? To a certain degree - but you also need to make some things happen regardless of player choice to propel the story along. Remember Wreav (notWrex), Padok Wiks (notMordin), and the GethVI (notLegion)? Those characters were created to fill certain story roles in case the originals had died in that particular player's game world. Every RPG also has a variety of choices the player can make purely for RP purposes, that don't have any obvious immediate payoff in terms of changing the game world. In MEA, Ryder's efforts make uninhabitable worlds viable and allow the placement and growth of outposts. By the end of the game, Ryder has secured a new home for humanity, located the other missing arks, expanded their knowledge and technology, created an alliance with another species, and thwarted a cluster-wide threat. I don't think I've ever played a game that allowed my character to have such a profound impact on the game world. |
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Post by suikoden on Apr 12, 2017 19:15:53 GMT
Considering how often they step all over their own canon, how many freaking holes the main story and side story's have, how the main story is nothing more then a cut and paste from the original series, just with names changed, I certainly would not call them professional writers, at the very least not very good ones. Canon? What canon would that be? Care to point out all these holes in the main story you've so deftly identified? You do realize this is not a continuation of MET, but a reboot of sorts, right? Well, they design a world with various characters and factions to set up the conflict(s) they intend to exploit and story they want to tell. Are you suggesting the MEA writers failed to do this? To a certain degree - but you also need to make some things happen regardless of player choice to propel the story along. Remember Wreav (notWrex), Padok Wiks (notMordin), and the GethVI (notLegion)? Those characters were created to fill certain story roles in case the originals had died in that particular player's game world. Every RPG also has a variety of choices the player can make purely for RP purposes, that don't have any obvious immediate payoff in terms of changing the game world. In MEA, Ryder's efforts make uninhabitable worlds viable and allow the placement and growth of outposts. By the end of the game, Ryder has secured a new home for humanity, located the other missing arks, expanded their knowledge and technology, created an alliance with another species, and thwarted a cluster-wide threat. I don't think I've ever played a game that allowed my character to have such a profound impact on the game world. Yeah... Ryder lowered radiation levels real gud... And opened up more identical zones to unlock more fetch quests. That's all planet viability is. All the roleplaying is happening in your head. |
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Post by smilesja on Apr 12, 2017 19:17:53 GMT
Canon? What canon would that be? Care to point out all these holes in the main story you've so deftly identified? You do realize this is not a continuation of MET, but a reboot of sorts, right? Well, they design a world with various characters and factions to set up the conflict(s) they intend to exploit and story they want to tell. Are you suggesting the MEA writers failed to do this? To a certain degree - but you also need to make some things happen regardless of player choice to propel the story along. Remember Wreav (notWrex), Padok Wiks (notMordin), and the GethVI (notLegion)? Those characters were created to fill certain story roles in case the originals had died in that particular player's game world. Every RPG also has a variety of choices the player can make purely for RP purposes, that don't have any obvious immediate payoff in terms of changing the game world. In MEA, Ryder's efforts make uninhabitable worlds viable and allow the placement and growth of outposts. By the end of the game, Ryder has secured a new home for humanity, located the other missing arks, expanded their knowledge and technology, created an alliance with another species, and thwarted a cluster-wide threat. I don't think I've ever played a game that allowed my character to have such a profound impact on the game world. Yeah... Ryder lowered radiation levels real gud... And opened up more identical zones to unlock more fetch quests. That's all planet viability is. All the roleplaying is happening in your head. I thought the Eos second half was one of the best so far. Just awesome |
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Post by vonuber on Apr 12, 2017 19:18:03 GMT
You signed up just to complain about ME:A - your very first posts are about it. I'm assuming that the majority of the 235 other ones are just variants on a theme. That's just a bit weird. |
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Apr 12, 2017 19:20:22 GMT
Is there "Meridian" in ME:A too, OP? I'm fresh off Horizon: Zero Dawn and it's the main city there. Yes and it baffles me It's literally the thing that ends the game |
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Post by suikoden on Apr 12, 2017 19:21:09 GMT
You signed up just to complain about ME:A - your very first posts are about it. I'm assuming that the majority of the 235 other ones are just variants on a theme. That's just a bit weird. I think you signed up just to vent in disbelief at people like me who think the game is shit. Now THAT'S weird. It's like, I'm your favorite person on the citadel! We'll bang, ok?! |
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Post by zeypher on Apr 12, 2017 19:21:24 GMT
I´m just going to leave this here (spoiler alert if you haven´t played the witcher 3 already). The story behind the Witcher 3s bloody baron quest: kotaku.com/the-story-behind-the-witcher-3s-bloody-baron-quest-1736090893I still now and then think of this quest and then I have to go in on youtube and watch clips of the botchling and the ladies of the woods. One of the best quests in gaming history in my opinion and a bit of a contrast to the quests in MEA. Yea no way will bioware ever design a quest like that. Its haunting, dark and depressing but a damn good quest. Besides it is not politically correct so no chance of Bio ever having a quest even close to witcher 3 in general. |
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Post by suikoden on Apr 12, 2017 19:24:05 GMT
Yeah... Ryder lowered radiation levels real gud... And opened up more identical zones to unlock more fetch quests. That's all planet viability is. All the roleplaying is happening in your head. I thought the Eos second half was one of the best so far. Just awesome Oh wow! You mean you like the game? I totally didn't know! You only feel the need to pop in to every thread that's talking about the exact opposite! So you're saying this shit smells good? And we should taste it too?! It tastes good? We just have bad taste? Just give it a rest - your princess is clearly in another castle. |
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Post by solomace on Apr 12, 2017 19:25:55 GMT
I don't think I've ever played a game that allowed my character to have such a profound impact on the game world. Then I'm sorry but have you only ever played MEA? DAO DAI (possibly) MET (Err Duh) Witcher 3 Fallout 1,2,3,4 KOTOR KOTOR 2 I could go on and on. I'm not saying your wrong of course because it's very subjective and to you Ryder has had this effect, but I would say your gaming experience must be limited if this is the case. |
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Post by smilesja on Apr 12, 2017 19:28:44 GMT
I thought the Eos second half was one of the best so far. Just awesome Oh wow! You mean you like the game? I totally didn't know! You only feel the need to pop in to every thread that's talking about the exact opposite! So you're saying this shit smells good? And we should taste it too?! It tastes good? We just have bad taste? Just give it a rest - your princess is clearly in another castle. I could the say the same for you. Considering you couldn't help but respond to her post above saying that the second half of eos is a fetch quest. |
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Post by solomace on Apr 12, 2017 19:29:18 GMT
Yeah... Ryder lowered radiation levels real gud... And opened up more identical zones to unlock more fetch quests. That's all planet viability is. All the roleplaying is happening in your head. I thought the Eos second half was one of the best so far. Just awesome Just cannot help yourself can you. No matter what, you will appear in any negative thread to try and sprinkle how much you love the game. ***ANDROMEDA BIGGEST WEAKNESS*** |
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Post by Iakus on Apr 12, 2017 19:30:16 GMT
I´m just going to leave this here (spoiler alert if you haven´t played the witcher 3 already). The story behind the Witcher 3s bloody baron quest: kotaku.com/the-story-behind-the-witcher-3s-bloody-baron-quest-1736090893I still now and then think of this quest and then I have to go in on youtube and watch clips of the botchling and the ladies of the woods. One of the best quests in gaming history in my opinion and a bit of a contrast to the quests in MEA. Yea no way will bioware ever design a quest like that. Its haunting, dark and depressing but a damn good quest. Besides it is not politically correct so no chance of Bio ever having a quest even close to witcher 3 in general. Bioware tried going dark. We ended up with quests like "All that Remains" and nonsense like RGB |
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Post by smilesja on Apr 12, 2017 19:30:34 GMT
I thought the Eos second half was one of the best so far. Just awesome Just cannot help yourself can you. No matter what, you will appear in any negative thread to try and sprinkle how much you love the game. ***ANDROMEDA BIGGEST WEAKNESS*** This is a forum where people can express themselves as long as they're respectful. |
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Post by solomace on Apr 12, 2017 19:34:54 GMT
Just cannot help yourself can you. No matter what, you will appear in any negative thread to try and sprinkle how much you love the game. ***ANDROMEDA BIGGEST WEAKNESS*** This is a forum where people can express themselves as long as they're respectful. Ahhh, so what your saying is no matter what the subject matter is you will respond with how much you love the game. I see. Says everything about you. Bugs thread - I love the game. Multiplayer thread - I love the game. I don't like Cora thread - I love the game. Ryder isn't as good as Shepard thread - I love the game. Yea your right, you can express yourself, it's just your not. Your just a stuck record that really seems to have an unhealthy love for the game that it's forcing you to post in every thread how much you love the game. I'm saying all this in a respectful tone of course  |
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Post by suikoden on Apr 12, 2017 19:43:01 GMT
Just cannot help yourself can you. No matter what, you will appear in any negative thread to try and sprinkle how much you love the game. ***ANDROMEDA BIGGEST WEAKNESS*** This is a forum where people can express themselves as long as they're respectful. It's gotten to the point where I just assume you're basically your avatar, and you just need hugs and likes from other people that like the game, respectfully. I expect to see that same sad face in every negative thread. Respectfully. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2017 19:45:26 GMT
All the roleplaying is happening in your head. That's where roleplaying always happens. |
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Post by solomace on Apr 12, 2017 19:52:05 GMT
All the roleplaying is happening in your head. That's where roleplaying always happens. ??? I haven't a clue what you're talking about. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2017 19:52:07 GMT
I don't think I've ever played a game that allowed my character to have such a profound impact on the game world. Then I'm sorry but have you only ever played MEA? DAO DAI (possibly) MET (Err Duh) Witcher 3 Fallout 1,2,3,4 KOTOR KOTOR 2 I could go on and on. I'm not saying your wrong of course because it's very subjective and to you Ryder has had this effect, but I would say your gaming experience must be limited if this is the case. I've played quite a few of them, yes. And I admit there may have been a touch of hyperbole in my statement, but to be clear: Ryder's accomplishments make it possible for the Ai to survive in Heleus. Your point? |
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Post by solomace on Apr 12, 2017 20:00:14 GMT
Then I'm sorry but have you only ever played MEA? DAO DAI (possibly) MET (Err Duh) Witcher 3 Fallout 1,2,3,4 KOTOR KOTOR 2 I could go on and on. I'm not saying your wrong of course because it's very subjective and to you Ryder has had this effect, but I would say your gaming experience must be limited if this is the case. I've played quite a few of them, yes. And I admit there may have been a touch of hyperbole in my statement, but to be clear: Ryder's accomplishments make it possible for the Ai to survive in Heleus. Your point? You answered it. Hyperbole. |
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Post by stysiaq on Apr 12, 2017 20:03:11 GMT
Yea no way will bioware ever design a quest like that. Its haunting, dark and depressing but a damn good quest. Besides it is not politically correct so no chance of Bio ever having a quest even close to witcher 3 in general. Bioware tried going dark. We ended up with quests like "All that Remains" and nonsense like RGB BioWare can't go dark, they can go edgelord. |
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Post by smilesja on Apr 12, 2017 20:03:49 GMT
This is a forum where people can express themselves as long as they're respectful. It's gotten to the point where I just assume you're basically your avatar, and you just need hugs and likes from other people that like the game, respectfully. I expect to see that same sad face in every negative thread. Respectfully. No need for insults. |
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Post by smilesja on Apr 12, 2017 20:07:41 GMT
This is a forum where people can express themselves as long as they're respectful. Ahhh, so what your saying is no matter what the subject matter is you will respond with how much you love the game. I see. Says everything about you. Bugs thread - I love the game. Multiplayer thread - I love the game. I don't like Cora thread - I love the game. Ryder isn't as good as Shepard thread - I love the game. Yea your right, you can express yourself, it's just your not. Your just a stuck record that really seems to have an unhealthy love for the game that it's forcing you to post in every thread how much you love the game. I'm saying all this in a respectful tone of course Please, I have my criticisms towards the game but I'm enjoying it so far. There's nothing wrong with me feeling the opposite what others say. But you know let's stop generalizing me and get back to the topic. |
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Post by Iakus on Apr 12, 2017 20:08:32 GMT
Bioware tried going dark. We ended up with quests like "All that Remains" and nonsense like RGB BioWare can't go dark, they can go edgelord.  |
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