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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2017 20:59:21 GMT
Stream summary
generic pr responses without adressing in depth any of the real issues plaguing the game. just exactly what I expected.
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Post by bjorndadwarf on Apr 13, 2017 21:00:07 GMT
On reporting/banning, the way I heard it is that not every exploit is a bannable offense, but if you're impacting the enjoyment of others, they're going to take a look at you.
So if you're running the double ammo glitch every match, tripling second place score and you get reported a bunch, then maybe you get banned. But I don't think one or two people reporting you is going to have anything happen.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2017 21:00:24 GMT
He said plainly if you're doing anything that impacts another player's enjoyment they will treat it as cheating/exploiting. nah they won't ban anyone for it i think. what theyve made clear is that it is an exploit after all.
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Post by bacon4breakfast on Apr 13, 2017 21:00:26 GMT
I didn't get banned from twitch chat
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Post by fossor on Apr 13, 2017 21:00:42 GMT
This stream confirmed for me that nothing is going to change, maybe for the worse.
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Post by hobocommand3r on Apr 13, 2017 21:01:30 GMT
He did not confirm that doign the ammo thing will get you banned at all. He was very vague about it.
Anyway stream was aids. Also you gotta love how every unique thing they add to apex missions is always for apex bronze. Why not let us change the difficulty?
Also said they want everything to be viable for every difficulty, I don't belive it for a second. 80% of the items in this game have not been tested much if at all on gold.
The guy was talking about how much he loves the sweeper, it was taking him 5 bursts to kill red bars on bronze.
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Post by Doctor Fumbles on Apr 13, 2017 21:01:51 GMT
I didn't get banned from twitch chat You didn't try hard enough!
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Post by someN7orother on Apr 13, 2017 21:02:28 GMT
So, to summarize:
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Post by swizz on Apr 13, 2017 21:02:38 GMT
they said we should report the people using a broken game bug, rofl my ass report devs who release half ass games and charge their fans full retail price to test their game for them after final release and then have the balls to play their game on the most puss ass setting available with garbage guns and actually mention "balance" then give empty promises with no action.......I feel better now. and they want US to report cheaters, cos they cant detect them themselves. they cant even detect 3rd party programs such as trainers. I feel sick now.. imma go throw up for a while
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Post by xaijin on Apr 13, 2017 21:03:11 GMT
they said we should report the people using a broken game bug, rofl my ass report devs who release half ass games and charge their fans full retail price to test their game for them after final release and then have the balls to play their game on the most puss ass setting available with garbage guns and actually mention "balance" then give empty promises with no action.......I feel better now. To be fair, they're both out of their element. Neither one of these guys has been the guy pressing the button until now, and neither one of them came from the FGC background where balance changes being quick and dirty are tuesday, which was where Corey and Eric came from. Because of the economic incentivization, they've also thrown out the previous balance model where blue was bronze, silver was silver and gold was gold with URs being sidegrades or niche play boosters, and neither one of these guys can do anything about that, as that is literally above their pay-grade. On the other hand, adopting a Warframe style do it now, check and refine it next week would not harm this game at all, especially at this stage. Every week they wait is more pissed off customers and no amount of marketing streams or twitter smilies will fix that or get angry customers back. Maybe they'll figure it out, maybe they won't.
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Post by Nightman on Apr 13, 2017 21:03:11 GMT
at least they confirmed that the double ammo glitch is considered cheating.....
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Post by fixthisgame on Apr 13, 2017 21:03:15 GMT
I don't know what i was expecting from this stream but man that was depressing
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Post by LemurFromTheId on Apr 13, 2017 21:03:33 GMT
He said plainly if you're doing anything that impacts another player's enjoyment they will treat it as cheating/exploiting. You're not reading between the lines. They hinted at repercussions because they want players to stop using the ammo glitch - hell, they pretty much pleaded for players to do so - but they very clearly avoided saying anything about banning. Obviously they don't want to ban a rather numerous amount of dedicated players at this point, they know it'd be a PR nightmare considering all the other bad PR the game has received - not that bans can't happen, but I'm sure that'd be the last resort. In other words: they're just playing for time until they can release a fix for the glitch.
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Post by xaijin on Apr 13, 2017 21:04:25 GMT
He said plainly if you're doing anything that impacts another player's enjoyment they will treat it as cheating/exploiting. nah they won't ban anyone for it i think. what theyve made clear is that it is an exploit after all. That's what people thought last time, and that's not what happened. "we take that stuff very seriously guys"
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Post by bacon4breakfast on Apr 13, 2017 21:05:17 GMT
Bioware likes to keep rules vague so they can use abuse them where they see fit.
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Post by rafo on Apr 13, 2017 21:05:26 GMT
They tried leaving it as vague as possible so they don't lie about telling they can and will ban people from using double ammo but at the same time get us worried about it so there are less people willing to risk trying it.
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Post by Doctor Fumbles on Apr 13, 2017 21:07:37 GMT
report devs who release half ass games and charge their fans full retail price to test their game for them after final release and then have the balls to play their game on the most puss ass setting available with garbage guns and actually mention "balance" then give empty promises with no action.......I feel better now. To be fair, they're both out of their element. Neither one of these guys has been the guy pressing the button until now, and neither one of them came from the FGC background where balance changes being quick and dirty are tuesday, which was where Corey and Eric came from. Because of the economic incentivization, they've also thrown out the previous balance model where blue was bronze, silver was silver and gold was gold with URs being sidegrades or niche play boosters, and neither one of these guys can do anything about that, as that is literally above their pay-grade. On the other hand, adopting a Warframe style do it now, check and refine it next week would not harm this game at all, especially at this stage. Every week they wait is more pissed off customers and no amount of marketing streams or twitter smilies will fix that or get angry customers back. Maybe they'll figure it out, maybe they won't. I would be fine with the Warframe system. The only reason I check in on the MP is for the Strike teams, so maybe one day the equipment aside from thermal clips will be worth it. Playing Warframe now in fact.
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Post by bjorndadwarf on Apr 13, 2017 21:08:08 GMT
nah they won't ban anyone for it i think. what theyve made clear is that it is an exploit after all. That's what people thought last time, and that's not what happened. "we take that stuff very seriously guys" Missile Gliching impacted other players a lot more than Warp/Incendiary did, and one got bans and the other didn't. I suspect (on the PC version), the comparisons now to this are glitched lobbies with one shot kills versus double ammo. One is impacting other players a lot more than the other.
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Post by P51Mus7ang on Apr 13, 2017 21:10:08 GMT
Oh my god guys this shitty gun is so good on bronze guys it's so good oh god so good I think we should cut them some slack, yes probably bronze running double level 4 ammo, I would have to agree with Bio, dat gun rocks....oh and the boosters we are yet to receive...
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Post by bjorndadwarf on Apr 13, 2017 21:10:15 GMT
To be fair, they're both out of their element. Neither one of these guys has been the guy pressing the button until now, and neither one of them came from the FGC background where balance changes being quick and dirty are tuesday, which was where Corey and Eric came from. Because of the economic incentivization, they've also thrown out the previous balance model where blue was bronze, silver was silver and gold was gold with URs being sidegrades or niche play boosters, and neither one of these guys can do anything about that, as that is literally above their pay-grade. On the other hand, adopting a Warframe style do it now, check and refine it next week would not harm this game at all, especially at this stage. Every week they wait is more pissed off customers and no amount of marketing streams or twitter smilies will fix that or get angry customers back. Maybe they'll figure it out, maybe they won't. I would be fine with the Warframe system. The only reason I check in on the MP is for the Strike teams, so maybe one day the equipment aside from thermal clips will be worth it. Playing Warframe now in fact. I think I finally completely burned out on Warframe. The time to farm Endo to level high end mods was too much, and the only challenge I can find is playing Endless missions for at least 30 minutes.
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Post by megabeast37215 on Apr 13, 2017 21:12:18 GMT
they said we should report the people using a broken game bug, rofl my ass report devs who release half ass games and charge their fans full retail price to test their game for them after final release and then have the balls to play their game on the most puss ass setting available with garbage guns and actually mention "balance" then give empty promises with no action.......I feel better now. Preach it brother!
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Post by Doctor Fumbles on Apr 13, 2017 21:12:34 GMT
I would be fine with the Warframe system. The only reason I check in on the MP is for the Strike teams, so maybe one day the equipment aside from thermal clips will be worth it. Playing Warframe now in fact. I think I finally completely burned out on Warframe. The time to farm Endo to level high end mods was too much, and the only challenge I can find is playing Endless missions for at least 30 minutes. I don't do it for the challenge. I play it because the combat is fun. I pay plat for everything, so I can avoid grinding.
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Post by someN7orother on Apr 13, 2017 21:13:43 GMT
He said plainly if you're doing anything that impacts another player's enjoyment they will treat it as cheating/exploiting. That's harsh, man. I mean, hosting public lobbies with a 486 (DX2) on dialup from the bottom of the fucking Mariana Trench is a rather douchey move, but I wouldn't consider it cheating. Can't say I would be totally opposed to handing bans in those cases, however, so maybe they are on to something.
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Post by bjorndadwarf on Apr 13, 2017 21:14:45 GMT
That's harsh, man. I mean, hosting public lobbies with a 486 (DX2) on dialup from the bottom of the fucking Mariana Trench is a rather douchey move, but I wouldn't consider it cheating. Don't judge me!
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Post by bacon4breakfast on Apr 13, 2017 21:15:18 GMT
Bioware likes to keep rules vague so they can use abuse them where they see fit. Super secret bonus meme, please do not redistribute!!!
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