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Post by Fogg on Apr 15, 2017 11:49:32 GMT
Are they like the biggest player in the whole galaxy, or just big in the regio around Heleus?
If you would compare Andromeda to Earth, and lets say the Heleus Cluster is Jamaica. Are the Kett similar to the USA in compared power, or maybe just Mexico or Venezuela? Which would make them a small player in the larger galaxy.
Since Andromeda doesn't have mass relays, there is no point for bigger civilizations that are out there to be bothered with a scourge invested small cluster beyond their immediate neighboring space. There could be many of those out there in theory. Far bigger and more advanced than the Kett.
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Post by kumazan on Apr 15, 2017 12:04:32 GMT
It's really hard to say with what we know. The Kett could be a massive interstellar empire which dwarfs the combined forces of the Citadel species, or even the Prothean Empire, and still be a small fish. The information we find about their background makes it sound like they are a regional power ruling over several star clusters at least, but beyond that it's anyone's guess.
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Post by themikefest on Apr 15, 2017 12:08:13 GMT
Don't know. Its one thing I like to see explained in a dlc or sequel. What will Primus do now that Archon is dead?
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Post by parnashwind on Apr 15, 2017 12:59:43 GMT
I dont think they are a "big player" - otherwise things will be pretty boring. They are probably the equivalent of the Batarians in the Milky Way. It is already said that their ships are inferior to that of the Alliance. Just because they have an odd way of reproduction doesnt really mean much in the grand scale of things. We know that there are at least 2 races in Andromeda that are more advanced. The Jardaan and their enemy who deployed the Scourge. The Katt are probably the North Korea of Andromeda  |
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Post by bryanky5 on Apr 15, 2017 14:11:58 GMT
All we know that the Archon is not the leading figure in the Kett and that they also have a Senate. Based on what we've seen though I don't think they would be able to win an all out war with the Alliance. We haven't seen the whole Empire of course however.
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Post by zipzap2000 on Apr 15, 2017 14:57:14 GMT
The Archon claims to have the DNA of a thousand species IIRC. So you're talking numbers to put the Krogan to shame and their ships did well in that fight.
Like I said in the other thread they aren't a big force they are what was thought to be enough to exhalt the cluster. The Senate is giving them time because of the scourge (datapad) but theyre getting impatient.
My guess is they've exhalted most of the galaxy.
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Post by kino on Apr 15, 2017 15:25:36 GMT
They're portrayed as a military power who travels between systems converting others. Whether that means they're swinging the biggest stick or that there is a society of equal/greater power hasn't been shown yet, though the word "Empire" has been used to describe themselves. I suspect more will be found as travel in the Andromeda galaxy expands.
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Post by Archangel on Apr 15, 2017 15:34:38 GMT
I really hope they aren't the big bad. They aren't that interesting, and I saw that "shocking" exaltation reveal coming a mile away.
I'm guessing the real big bad is whatever made the scourge, the Kett may or may not be an agent of them...think collectors.
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Post by Matterthief on Apr 15, 2017 15:58:10 GMT
We know that there are at least 2 races in Andromeda that are more advanced. The Jardaan and their enemy who deployed the Scourge. Being simply referred to as the Opposition, a faction within the Jardaan seems more likely to me. With Mac Walters involved, I'm half expecting their very own version of Cerberus...  As for the kett, I can't imagine they have a large presence. To start with, the Jardaan were definitely active as recently as a few centuries ago when the Scourge hit. One of the kett datapads mentioned the Scourge being a phenomenon unique to the Heleus cluster. So by all accounts the Jardaan should be alive and kicking elsewhere in Andromeda, unless of course they were only ever active in this one cluster. Personally I just can't see a race that advanced and capable of such engineering feats not having any presence outside Heleus. If so, surely they would keep a highly antagonistic race like the kett in check. Regarding the Archon's claims, I'm just not taking that at face value. It has to be nothing else than more boasting about their supposed superiority. Or, if we insist on the number being accurate, they must be exalting non-sapient species by the dozen, like turing challyrions into wraiths. |
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Post by rasande on Apr 15, 2017 16:08:24 GMT
Kanye West big. They almost match his ego anyway.
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Post by sincro on Apr 15, 2017 16:11:14 GMT
Personally, the Kett are already too much like the Borg for my taste. Obviously not quite as unstoppable, but I can see a lot of similar themes. I'd be happy if in any follow-on games, they get relegated to second tier status.
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Post by ildun on Apr 15, 2017 16:13:22 GMT
I think powerhouse in Andromeda is Jardaan's nemesis > Jardaan > Kett > other
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Post by Serza on Apr 15, 2017 16:32:33 GMT
I really hope they aren't the big bad. They aren't that interesting, and I saw that "shocking" exaltation reveal coming a mile away. I'm guessing the real big bad is whatever made the scourge, the Kett may or may not be an agent of them...think collectors. I think that was the geniously awesome thing. We knew something didn't add up, that Fiends were too similar to Eirochs and Wraiths bore an uncanny resemblance to Challyrions. But only in that facility did we learn just HOW bad it is, exactly. I think powerhouse in Andromeda is Jardaan's nemesis > Jardaan > Kett > other ...and the Kett rank over Andromeda Initiative only because we didn't bring the entire Systems Alliance and Hierarchy. Those two alone would roflstomp the Kett "empire" into the ground. |
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Post by parnashwind on Apr 15, 2017 16:35:59 GMT
We know that there are at least 2 races in Andromeda that are more advanced. The Jardaan and their enemy who deployed the Scourge. Being simply referred to as the Opposition, a faction within the Jardaan seems more likely to me. With Mac Walters involved, I'm half expecting their very own version of Cerberus... As for the kett, I can't imagine they have a large presence. To start with, the Jardaan were definitely active as recently as a few centuries ago when the Scourge hit. One of the kett datapads mentioned the Scourge being a phenomenon unique to the Heleus cluster. So by all accounts the Jardaan should be alive and kicking elsewhere in Andromeda, unless of course they were only ever active in this one cluster. Personally I just can't see a race that advanced and capable of such engineering feats not having any presence outside Heleus. If so, surely they would keep a highly antagonistic race like the kett in check. Regarding the Archon's claims, I'm just not taking that at face value. It has to be nothing else than more boasting about their supposed superiority. Or, if we insist on the number being accurate, they must be exalting non-sapient species by the dozen, like turing challyrions into wraiths.  Or the Jardaan are actually the big bad. They terraform planets to support life and create life so that they can umm... eat them. It is a huge big farm, to grow exotic food. |
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Post by SofNascimento on Apr 15, 2017 16:51:24 GMT
They are as big as the plot for the next (if there is a next game) demands.
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Post by Matterthief on Apr 15, 2017 17:27:20 GMT
Being simply referred to as the Opposition, a faction within the Jardaan seems more likely to me. With Mac Walters involved, I'm half expecting their very own version of Cerberus... As for the kett, I can't imagine they have a large presence. To start with, the Jardaan were definitely active as recently as a few centuries ago when the Scourge hit. One of the kett datapads mentioned the Scourge being a phenomenon unique to the Heleus cluster. So by all accounts the Jardaan should be alive and kicking elsewhere in Andromeda, unless of course they were only ever active in this one cluster. Personally I just can't see a race that advanced and capable of such engineering feats not having any presence outside Heleus. If so, surely they would keep a highly antagonistic race like the kett in check. Regarding the Archon's claims, I'm just not taking that at face value. It has to be nothing else than more boasting about their supposed superiority. Or, if we insist on the number being accurate, they must be exalting non-sapient species by the dozen, like turing challyrions into wraiths. Or the Jardaan are actually the big bad. They terraform planets to support life and create life so that they can umm... eat them. It is a huge big farm, to grow exotic food. Ha, they would clamp down on the kett all the more. I mean, no farmer worth a damn would let all those exotic ingredients go to waste on some uniform grey-ish mess. All skin and bones too, or rather they're technically one and the same there  Plus, that's all assuming whoever the big bad might be is actually going to have a motivation that makes the slightest bit of sense this time around  |
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Post by presidentevil77 on Apr 15, 2017 20:47:17 GMT
Being simply referred to as the Opposition, a faction within the Jardaan seems more likely to me. With Mac Walters involved, I'm half expecting their very own version of Cerberus... As for the kett, I can't imagine they have a large presence. To start with, the Jardaan were definitely active as recently as a few centuries ago when the Scourge hit. One of the kett datapads mentioned the Scourge being a phenomenon unique to the Heleus cluster. So by all accounts the Jardaan should be alive and kicking elsewhere in Andromeda, unless of course they were only ever active in this one cluster. Personally I just can't see a race that advanced and capable of such engineering feats not having any presence outside Heleus. If so, surely they would keep a highly antagonistic race like the kett in check. Regarding the Archon's claims, I'm just not taking that at face value. It has to be nothing else than more boasting about their supposed superiority. Or, if we insist on the number being accurate, they must be exalting non-sapient species by the dozen, like turing challyrions into wraiths. Or the Jardaan are actually the big bad. They terraform planets to support life and create life so that they can umm... eat them. It is a huge big farm, to grow exotic food. Nutrient paste is ANGARA!? |
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Post by Garo on Apr 15, 2017 20:54:27 GMT
I hope they are huge in Andromeda, because it would be way too convenient to have another race on our level of development.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2017 23:33:57 GMT
"Inheritor of a thousand species" - even if he was exaggerating, how many could that be?
And how many have we met in the Milky Way, throughout the galaxy?
One could argue that with no Reapers around, more species could have developed together, and Andromeda is a larger galaxy.
But still, the Kett Empire have to be quite big.
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Post by parnashwind on Apr 16, 2017 3:10:13 GMT
Or the Jardaan are actually the big bad. They terraform planets to support life and create life so that they can umm... eat them. It is a huge big farm, to grow exotic food. Nutrient paste is ANGARA!? According to my SAM's translation, "ANGARA" means "STEAK" in Jardaan.  No point in creating a sector wide farm if you are willing to settle for baby food. |
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Post by scougall on Apr 16, 2017 9:17:45 GMT
I think they are loosely based on the Roman Empire, so i reckon they are probably the biggest in the galaxy but they don't span all of the galaxy and there are probably areas they haven't had an influence in. However i like to think they are at war with another similar sized empire (Akin to the Persian empires or whatever) which is why they are pushing into Heleus to gather more soldiers and why the Archon has gone nuts over the Remnant. I mean he was sent to exalt the species and he has found a way to waste entire planets, which isnt his goal at all, to maybe use against the other big enemy in the galaxy? |
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Post by Pyrceval78 on Apr 16, 2017 9:30:54 GMT
In general, they appear roughly human sized.
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Post by Psychevore on Apr 16, 2017 9:35:46 GMT
The Archon claims to have the DNA of a thousand species IIRC. So you're talking numbers to put the Krogan to shame and their ships did well in that fight. Like I said in the other thread they aren't a big force they are what was thought to be enough to exhalt the cluster. The Senate is giving them time because of the scourge (datapad) but theyre getting impatient. My guess is they've exhalted most of the galaxy. A thousand species could very well be 785 plants, 83 bacteria, 2 archea and the rest fish. The Kett don't really seem to care that much about intelligence, only genes. |
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Post by cheeseandonion on Apr 16, 2017 9:44:37 GMT
"Inheritor of a thousand species" - even if he was exaggerating, how many could that be? And how many have we met in the Milky Way, throughout the galaxy? One could argue that with no Reapers around, more species could have developed together, and Andromeda is a larger galaxy. But still, the Kett Empire have to be quite big. He could be including cats and dogs and whatever little critter they can get their hands on in that though. |
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Post by zipzap2000 on Apr 16, 2017 9:52:26 GMT
The Archon claims to have the DNA of a thousand species IIRC. So you're talking numbers to put the Krogan to shame and their ships did well in that fight. Like I said in the other thread they aren't a big force they are what was thought to be enough to exhalt the cluster. The Senate is giving them time because of the scourge (datapad) but theyre getting impatient. My guess is they've exhalted most of the galaxy. A thousand species could very well be 785 plants, 83 bacteria, 2 archea and the rest fish. The Kett don't really seem to care that much about intelligence, only genes. As funny as that sounds I doubt he meant he was absorbing glow in the dark goldfish and diphtheria for a living. |
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