Gil VS Kallo

I sided with Gil.

(Here you go doch, I am quoting the entire post and contributing to the clutter of the forums. Congratulations. I bolded the word Shepard for you)

This is where you are showing that it is you that are stuck in the past and do not even know which game you are playing (next you will call Gill: Cortez)

So scenario for you: 

Travelling through the Scourge to get to Aya (tricky bit of flying that), the Tempest is making a turn when suddenly the cockpit looses all control and the ship is drifting sideways toward to a Scourge tendril.
You don't know what happened, Kallo doesn't know what happened and when you use ship coms to get an answer you get a typical snippy arrogant reply from Gil that he is doing his job upgrading the ship and to just get off his back. He is under the plating somewhere and cannot see outside, has not bothered to check the sensors.
Three seconds later the Tempest collides with the Scourge and explodes, killing all aboard.

Congratulations again, you have killed your crew. You have enabled Gill not to be progressive, but to be arrogant in being progressive in dangerous situations. You had the chance to get him to slow down for just one second and think before acting but instead encouraged the guy.
[Slow clap]

Pretty much and he admits in the end it was a stupid thing to be mad about anyway.

That's the thing, though. doch does allude to wanting to tell Gil off for things that would cause the scenario you present. It's unprofessional to upgrade something like the Tempest without telling someone. Even if you are the sole owner of it. So that others can be prepared for any bugs or to suggest to wait until you're not near the Scourge to mess with things.

Both Kallo and Gil were right in some regards and wrong in other regards. doch and others in this thread, including myself, wished that the writers gave us the option to tell them both off for what they were doing wrong.

Kallo. I'd rather Gil not play around with the ship while we are in enemy territory.

As an aside, Gil doesn't give a rat's ass who you side with anyway. Apart from RP, there's no reason to side with Gil really.

I can't stand Gil, but in this case he is right. Adapt or die. Kallo being sentimental doesn't help anyone.

I sided with Gil. I like Kallo better as a character, but his argument was that he doesn't want any changes done because it's HIS ship. I didn't really see it as any different than when my one and two year old son and daughter play and she will pick up something he isn't using at the moment and only then does he get upset and demand it back saying it's his.

Gil is on the ship for a reason. He's there to do his job and he was right that no one that designed the ship, other than Kallo, was there to deal with how it would handle in Andromeda with the Scourge and all the other variables they are encountering. His job is to make improvements, keep the ship running optimally.

I felt bad because Kallo wants to respect the memories of his friends and I do like him quite a bit more as a character and member of the crew than Gil, but I had to be objective.

I sided with Kallo, mainly because from moment one of meeting Gil i wanted to space him rather than being won over by either side of the argument.

Leeeet me get this straight


There are people here who would allow someone who is described as a wrench jockey with no measurable competence in redesigning a star ship, who blatantly "acts on gut instinct now and deals with the consequences later", who is ok screwing with nav systems MID FUCKING FIGHT while the ship carries 10 other individuals and two pets (whose lives at this point I value over his) and POC putting everyone at risk over the guy who had his hands in designing the bloody ship and values its safety more than almost anything else?


Yeah hell no

Hard choice because both were wrong. Gil can not be just making 'upgrades' willy nilly and any time he wants. He should be letting the Captain know of any upgrades/repairs that take any system down. As for Kallo, its just silly not to make needed changes just because of some stupid sentimental attachment to the original builders. Very un-Salarain like attitude.

There should have been a third option for Ryder, but like so many in this game I wasn't given one that I liked.

I wanted to put them in a Thunderdome like scenario to battle it out for which idea I accepted.

But seeing as how that wasn't an option, nor could I tell the two knuckle heads to consult me before removing a single bolt, I went with Gil.


We had the same hairstyle so clearly he had good judgement.