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Post by leo3abp on Apr 17, 2017 17:21:28 GMT
Don't want to nitpick, but... the picture is wrong - Shepard was male, no matter that femshep fanboys want make us to believe otherwise. Just my 0.02$. Really? Where does it say that? First two games made that abundantly clear. Its only starting from ME3 BW suddenly decided that they urgently need to please certain demographics/interested groups/whatever and started to force alternative female protagonist. But alternative will always be a key word here. Canonical Shepard is Sheploo, whether you like it or not. Just live with that. |
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Post by KaiserShep on Apr 17, 2017 17:23:42 GMT
There is no canonical Shepard, just like there's no canonical ending to the trilogy, and never will be.
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Post by leo3abp on Apr 17, 2017 17:27:53 GMT
There is no canonical Shepard, just like there's no canonical ending to the trilogy, and never will be. Sheploo and Destroy ending are canon, even if devs do not expressly state it simply due to reasons that ppl like you then will complain that they feel bad about having their green ending femsheps not being canon, so the "there is no canon" bs was invented. But feel free to convince yourself otherwise. |
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Post by KaiserShep on Apr 17, 2017 17:29:38 GMT
There is no canonical Shepard, just like there's no canonical ending to the trilogy, and never will be. Sheploo and Destroy ending are canon, but feel free to convince yourself otherwise. Hey, if you've got word of God on your side, then so be it………….so where is it? I'm a Destroyer as well, but I'm not going to kid myself and believe that it's canon. If BioWare was going to push one, it'd probably be Synthesis, since it's their "ideal" outcome. |
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Post by vonuber on Apr 17, 2017 17:35:28 GMT
First two games made that abundantly clear. Its only starting from ME3 BW suddenly decided that they urgently need to please certain demographics/interested groups/whatever and started to force alternative female protagonist. But alternative will always be a key word here. Canonical Shepard is Sheploo, whether you like it or not. Just live with that. Oh I see, you were just talking out of your backside. |
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Post by Eterna on Apr 17, 2017 17:35:31 GMT
There is no canonical Shepard, just like there's no canonical ending to the trilogy, and never will be. Sheploo and Destroy ending are canon, even if devs do not expressly state it simply due to reasons that ppl like you then will complain that they feel bad about having their green ending femsheps not being canon, so the "there is no canon" bs was invented. But feel free to convince yourself otherwise. If what you are saying is true then you would not have the option to select female Shepard as your history in the character creator in Andromeda. But I feel as though this will fall of deaf ears and you will continue to be delusional. Probably should not have bothered. |
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Post by raikas on Apr 17, 2017 17:39:04 GMT
Someone with a sense of humour? That's funnier than anything in the game.  That's the thing with humour though, it's harder to make it hit with a broader audience than it is to hit a generally accepted level of gravitas in a dramatic scene. I thought the writing in the game was uneven, but once I decided they were going for goofy, a decent portion of it actually started working for me. It reminded me a bit of the sometimes stupid humour that was in the old Sierra adventure games. Even if that wasn't their goal, I did laugh at enough of it that I was reasonably entertained. But at the same time, some people hate goofy humour and that's fair too (and even for me a lot of it fell flat). |
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Post by leo3abp on Apr 17, 2017 17:42:03 GMT
Sheploo and Destroy ending are canon, even if devs do not expressly state it simply due to reasons that ppl like you then will complain that they feel bad about having their green ending femsheps not being canon, so the "there is no canon" bs was invented. But feel free to convince yourself otherwise. If what you are saying is true then you would not have the option to select female Shepard as your history in the character creator in Andromeda. But I feel as though this will fall of deaf ears and you will continue to be delusional. Probably should not have bothered. What has character selection anything to do with canon gender of Shepard? Don't look for logic there, because selecting gender is just a fan service. It is on the smae level as bringing transgenders to Andromeda - no logic, just to appease certain fan demographics. So weasel and make as many excuses as you want, that doesn't change that Sheploo-Destroy is canon. It is clear if one has at least some ability to analyze the story and see between the lines. Other options just made for the sake of having a choice and fanservice. |
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Post by Eterna on Apr 17, 2017 17:45:31 GMT
If what you are saying is true then you would not have the option to select female Shepard as your history in the character creator in Andromeda. But I feel as though this will fall of deaf ears and you will continue to be delusional. Probably should not have bothered. What has character selection anything to do with canon gender of Shepard? Don't look for logic there, because selecting gender is just a fan service. It is on the smae level as bringing transgenders to Andromeda - no logic, just to appease certain fan demographics. So weasel and make as many excuses as you want, that doesn't change that Sheploo-Destroy is canon. It is clear if one has at least some ability to analyze the story and see between the lines. Other options just made for the sake of having a choice and fanservice. Look, I'm not getting into it with you, unless you have an official source stating there is a cannon Shepard then you are talking out of your ass. |
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Post by KaiserShep on Apr 17, 2017 17:46:18 GMT
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Post by alanc9 on Apr 17, 2017 17:47:07 GMT
There is no canonical Shepard, just like there's no canonical ending to the trilogy, and never will be. Sheploo and Destroy ending are canon, even if devs do not expressly state it simply due to reasons that ppl like you then will complain that they feel bad about having their green ending femsheps not being canon, so the "there is no canon" bs was invented. But feel free to convince yourself otherwise. What do you mean here by "canon"? Or is this just supposed to be idiotic posturing? If so, you should probably turn up the pomposity a couple notches. When The Twilight God claims to be The Ultimate Authority On Mass Effect Lore, you can smell the irony. |
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Post by friffy on Apr 17, 2017 17:58:34 GMT
If what you are saying is true then you would not have the option to select female Shepard as your history in the character creator in Andromeda. But I feel as though this will fall of deaf ears and you will continue to be delusional. Probably should not have bothered. What has character selection anything to do with canon gender of Shepard? Don't look for logic there, because selecting gender is just a fan service. It is on the smae level as bringing transgenders to Andromeda - no logic, just to appease certain fan demographics. So weasel and make as many excuses as you want, that doesn't change that Sheploo-Destroy is canon. It is clear if one has at least some ability to analyze the story and see between the lines. Other options just made for the sake of having a choice and fanservice. I agree completely, they should stop with their aweful fanservice. Stop this stupid gender selection. Next char should be female only, next crew should be nice and attractive males only. Make it canon and end all that whining about this aweful fanservice BW is willing to do once and forever. But for the ending of ME3 I have to disagree. Synthetic is the canon BW has in mind. Although I might lack your ability to analyze and see between the lines. |
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Post by Furisco on Apr 17, 2017 17:59:17 GMT
Stop taking the bait people.
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Post by KaiserShep on Apr 17, 2017 18:14:26 GMT
Stop taking the bait people.  |
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Post by dreman999 on Apr 17, 2017 19:34:17 GMT
What the hell did I walk into? I almost walked into that bait. Is lizard cat board or something?
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Post by Cyberstrike on Apr 17, 2017 19:45:30 GMT
If what you are saying is true then you would not have the option to select female Shepard as your history in the character creator in Andromeda. But I feel as though this will fall of deaf ears and you will continue to be delusional. Probably should not have bothered. What has character selection anything to do with canon gender of Shepard? Don't look for logic there, because selecting gender is just a fan service. It is on the smae level as bringing transgenders to Andromeda - no logic, just to appease certain fan demographics. So weasel and make as many excuses as you want, that doesn't change that Sheploo-Destroy is canon. It is clear if one has at least some ability to analyze the story and see between the lines. Other options just made for the sake of having a choice and fanservice. Then going by your "logic" (which is a streching that word to the breaking point) then I can say that female Shepard is the default because the The N7 Day 2015 trailer which is voiced by Jennifer Hale as Commander Shepard and was created by BioWare. Show me where male Shepard and the destroy ending is official canon STATED by anyone at BioWare who worked on or currently works on the Mass Effect series in some kind of leadership role, otherwise you can shut up. |
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Post by colfoley on Apr 17, 2017 19:47:38 GMT
Really? Where does it say that? Nowhere it's just that Jennifer Hale is vastly superior VA than Mark Meer is. Meer good but Hale is great. I played male Shepard 3 times through the first 2 games after LotSB I said "never again" because as a character like Blasto he's great but as Shepard he's a snore and a half. i always found that odd the man has v terrific range and voice acting chops...yet he was so stiff as Shepard. |
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Post by shechinah on Apr 17, 2017 19:56:21 GMT
i always found that odd the man has v terrific range and voice acting chops...yet he was so stiff as Shepard. He was likely given directions to voice Shepard the way that he did: it seems to be to emulate a certain kind of character type. I think but cannot say for sure that I may have read something to that effect. |
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Post by KaiserShep on Apr 17, 2017 20:07:03 GMT
i always found that odd the man has v terrific range and voice acting chops...yet he was so stiff as Shepard. He was likely given directions to voice Shepard the way that he did: it seems to be to emulate a certain kind of character type. I think but cannot say for sure that I may have read something to that effect. I wouldn't be surprised. Despite my general disdain for M!Shep's voice, I'm a fan of Meer's for how his work in the franchise in general. |
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Post by raikas on Apr 17, 2017 20:10:36 GMT
Nowhere it's just that Jennifer Hale is vastly superior VA than Mark Meer is. Meer good but Hale is great. I played male Shepard 3 times through the first 2 games after LotSB I said "never again" because as a character like Blasto he's great but as Shepard he's a snore and a half. i always found that odd the man has v terrific range and voice acting chops...yet he was so stiff as Shepard. I'm actually glad he did the line readings that way. I always felt like femShep had more of a fixed character because Hale's readings gave the lines a set flavour, whereas mShep was more flexible since Meer's readings were more neutral and could be more easily read in different ways. |
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Post by colfoley on Apr 17, 2017 20:19:20 GMT
i always found that odd the man has v terrific range and voice acting chops...yet he was so stiff as Shepard. I'm actually glad he did the line readings that way. I always felt like femShep had more of a fixed character because Hale's readings gave the lines a set flavour, whereas mShep was more flexible since Meer's readings were more neutral and could be more easily read in different ways. probably. But Hale did give the vibe of military bad ass more then meer did and i just find it easier to role play with established voice. |
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Post by Lady Artifice on Apr 18, 2017 18:06:07 GMT
Eh, I'm fine with both. Shepard had a little more dignity and Ryder has a lot more personality. Neither of them left me feeling inspired or adoring.
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Post by leo3abp on Apr 18, 2017 18:34:51 GMT
I'm actually glad he did the line readings that way. I always felt like femShep had more of a fixed character because Hale's readings gave the lines a set flavour, whereas mShep was more flexible since Meer's readings were more neutral and could be more easily read in different ways. probably. But Hale did give the vibe of military bad ass more then meer did and i just find it easier to role play with established voice. If by "military bad ass vibe" you mean the same sort of vibe that chicks in pron movies do, dressed in something representing BDU, then by all means. Otherwise Hales VO as femShep is laughable at best as she tries too hard to sound like "military bad ass" which only brings pron movies references to its vibe. Meer on the other hand sounded very natural in his role, which only added to Sheploo real badassness. So please, stop this nonsense about femShep VO being superior. It was a nice alternative for the lulz, but nothing else, and definitely not anywhere close if we try to review protagonist VO in any seriousness |
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Post by colfoley on Apr 18, 2017 18:43:55 GMT
probably. But Hale did give the vibe of military bad ass more then meer did and i just find it easier to role play with established voice. If by "military bad ass vibe" you mean the same sort of vibe that chicks in pron movies do, dressed in something representing BDU, then by all means. Otherwise Hales VO as femShep is laughable at best as she tries too hard to sound like "military bad ass" which only brings pron movies references to its vibe. Meer on the other hand sounded very natural in his role, which only added to Sheploo real badassness. So please, stop this nonsense about femShep VO being superior. It was a nice alternative for the lulz, but nothing else, and definitely not anywhere close if we try to review protagonist VO in any seriousness cool story bro. |
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Post by KaiserShep on Apr 18, 2017 18:44:48 GMT
I think perhaps that speaks more toward your taste in porn(prawn)than the apparent quality of FemShep's VO.
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