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Post by Steelcan on Apr 20, 2017 19:42:39 GMT
Well BioWare shouldn't invite the comparisons, or they should make better games.
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Post by smilesja on Apr 20, 2017 19:44:19 GMT
Well BioWare shouldn't invite the comparisons, or they should make better games. Or maybe fanboys need to stop destroying each other
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Post by solomace on Apr 20, 2017 19:57:57 GMT
Well BioWare shouldn't invite the comparisons, or they should make better games. Or maybe fanboys need to stop destroying each other At least you're admitting your one.
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Post by linksocarina on Apr 20, 2017 20:09:23 GMT
And ironically that has been a thing folks criticized from previous bioware titles though from the recent past.
Going the full linearity route (which they do to an extant anyway) may work, but I think a lot more people are going to be vocal about that.
Also am I the only one who finds the hyperbole of Bioware's reputation being in jepordy to be overplayed now. Folks out there want bioware to fail because it's popular or against their interests or whatever reason under the sun. It is just as annoying as the people who have axes to grind
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Post by R'Shara on Apr 20, 2017 20:19:32 GMT
And ironically that has been a thing folks criticized from previous bioware titles though from the recent past. Going the full linearity route (which they do to an extant anyway) may work, but I think a lot more people are going to be vocal about that. Also am I the only one who finds the hyperbole of Bioware's reputation being in jepordy to be overplayed now. Folks out there want bioware to fail because it's popular or against their interests or whatever reason under the sun. It is just as annoying as the people who have axes to grind Or we have actual issues with the game.
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Post by solomace on Apr 20, 2017 20:22:05 GMT
Also am I the only one who finds the hyperbole of Bioware's reputation being in jepordy to be overplayed now. Folks out there want bioware to fail because it's popular or against their interests or whatever reason under the sun. It is just as annoying as the people who have axes to grind Be honest, after - ME3 ending SWTOR going FTP so soon even though it was susposed to be the WoW killer. DA2 DAI MEA You don't think their reputation is in jeopardy? For me, I don't care if they do fail and break up and leave, as I don't think they can produce the goods of old as they no longer have any focus on what exactly they want to be and what they want to produce. I still have my great memories of games they used to produce but if I want companions or stories or great writing or great features, plenty of other games are doing it in spades. Unlike some, I don't care what colour, gender or age my character is, I will still enjoy the great games out there and don't need a CC just to play a game. Listening to all the people on her with some serious hangups, I would suggest Bioware scrap any romance in games and that would be a great first step. I don't think it's needed and it makes me think that Bioware still think there audience are dweebs with no partners getting off on computer characters shagging. Wait a mo...
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Post by R'Shara on Apr 20, 2017 20:25:41 GMT
I don't think anyone in this thread has said anything about the romances.
The romances are a wildly popular part of any Bioware game. I think scrapping that would be figurative suicide for the company.
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Post by solomace on Apr 20, 2017 20:30:44 GMT
I don't think anyone in this thread has said anything about the romances. I must of read/interpreted some posts wrong or it's in on of my other threads I'm in
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Post by solomace on Apr 20, 2017 20:33:46 GMT
I don't think anyone in this thread has said anything about the romances. The romances are a wildly popular part of any Bioware game. I think scrapping that would be figurative suicide for the company. I think they used to be ok, but now it just seems that it has to be everything goes to appeal to ever single demographic out there. I don't think it's needed is all and I fail to see how it would hurt them in any big way if they had a great script, toons and gameplay. I haven't romanced anyone in a Bio game since I tried to get Jack. Boy was that hard.
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Post by Revan Reborn on Apr 20, 2017 20:35:34 GMT
First I have to apologize to you Revan Reborn. At first I thought "not another Witcher fanboy" but that's not true. So please forgive me for being so upset in comment and that I haven't answered it - if you remember me. Whas the one who asked you what if Gerald would have been... If you would like to have me answering to your anwser (now it gets complicated...) I will and this time more respefully. Again, I apologize for being so upset. About this conversation: Sorry to say that to you but I was waiting for this "fanboy" conclusion from the very first start of your conversations. I guess the fact that you're trying to be reasonable and well-mannered in all your conversations needed a bit more work to finally push you in the "fanboyism" direction. It doesn't count that you say you like (love?) both games for what they are. It doesn't count that you actually have played both games and enjoy them both for what they are. No matter how reasonable you are in the end everything you say is wrong - just because. It has to. That is what annoys me. I'm here to discuss Mass Effect. What I like, what I love, what I would like to change, what angers me - I don't want to talk about other games. But no matter what topic - in the end it all is "BW is shit and W3 is king and anybody who says otherwise is stupid, a shill, a fanboy" There is no other opinion than this opinion - why do we even dare to call this a BW forum? We should call it "Just another forum to bash BW and their awful games". I really don't understand the vitriol towards MEA. It's my favorite Mass Effect game, largely because I think it is overall the most well-rounded and quality Mass Effect experience. Does it have the best story out of the entire ME franchise? I wouldn't say so, but it's definitely a great start for what is really a foundational game. In my opinion, MEA is far superior to ME1, which is really the game in the original trilogy we should be comparing MEA to. The Witcher franchise is awesome and I'm a huge fan of CDPR as well. But this thread, and forum, are supposed to be about BioWare games. It's fine to point out features that TW3 may have done better, but ultimately many just like to bash on MEA for the sake of bashing on it. Truth be told, it's really just a vocal minority that keeps on spewing much of the hate towards MEA. However, constantly make enough threads and repeat the same statement over and over and everybody starts to believe there's more wrong with the game than there actually is. It's really difficult to have a productive and positive conversation about MEA, largely because there is that section of the "fan base" that just won't stop pointing out what they've said time and time again and trying to reinforce how "terrible" MEA actually is. I really don't understand what their goal is. If you don't like the game, fine. However, stop trying to make your opinion out to be some sort of golden standard or objective truth about the entire experience. If there's anything MEA has taught me about BioWare's "fan base," there are a lot of fickle people in it.
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First I have to apologize to you Revan Reborn. At first I thought "not another Witcher fanboy" but that's not true. So please forgive me for being so upset in comment and that I haven't answered it - if you remember me. Whas the one who asked you what if Gerald would have been... If you would like to have me answering to your anwser (now it gets complicated...) I will and this time more respefully. Again, I apologize for being so upset. About this conversation: Sorry to say that to you but I was waiting for this "fanboy" conclusion from the very first start of your conversations. I guess the fact that you're trying to be reasonable and well-mannered in all your conversations needed a bit more work to finally push you in the "fanboyism" direction. It doesn't count that you say you like (love?) both games for what they are. It doesn't count that you actually have played both games and enjoy them both for what they are. No matter how reasonable you are in the end everything you say is wrong - just because. It has to. That is what annoys me. I'm here to discuss Mass Effect. What I like, what I love, what I would like to change, what angers me - I don't want to talk about other games. But no matter what topic - in the end it all is "BW is shit and W3 is king and anybody who says otherwise is stupid, a shill, a fanboy" There is no other opinion than this opinion - why do we even dare to call this a BW forum? We should call it "Just another forum to bash BW and their awful games". I really don't understand the vitriol towards MEA. It's my favorite Mass Effect game, largely because I think it is overall the most well-rounded and quality Mass Effect experience....
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Post by decafhigh on Apr 20, 2017 20:44:24 GMT
I have never not played a game because the protagonist was female or said to myself "The main character is female? I can't play this!" It's an absurd notion for either gender. For most of the history of video games there hasn't been much choice. Imagine if you will if since the very first day of video games all of them, aside from a few standout exceptions, had black female lesbian protagonists and now in recent years video games finally started making more games with a choice of playing a white male protagonist. You would probably think that's pretty cool. Maybe games would even reach a point where having a choice in what kind of character you want to be starts becoming the rule rather than the exception. You don't have to settle for playing a Black Lesbian anymore so games that continue to cater to that start to become less interesting since you have so many more choices now. No one is saying "zomg CDPR why no female Geralt?". The Witcher having a fixed protagonist makes perfect sense, but unlike years ago I have more choices now in games I can play so my interest in playing as Geralt is simply less. There is nothing 'absurd' about it unless you unable to put yourself in someone else's shoes.
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Post by Revan Reborn on Apr 20, 2017 20:47:31 GMT
What I really find hilarious about this situation is the game wouldn't receive half the hate it is getting if not for the facial animations. Had those been a nonissue, most of the "criticisms" of this game would dissipate almost immediately. This is really the only flaw folks can cling to in order to justify the amount of "jankiness" in the game. As far as movement and gameplay, this is by far the best Mass Effect experience we've ever had. It's a shame that is being overshadowed. Are the wonky facial animations your only actual criticism of this game? You are a broken record saying the same thing over and over. Whether you believe MEA is a "good" or "bad" open world game is entirely subjective. You are not the golden standard for what constitutes a good open world experience. The open world genre is my favorite kind of game. The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind is my favorite game of all time. From my perspective, MEA is a phenomenal open world game. You answered your own question... Prior to DAI, BioWare largely always made incredibly linear experiences. What the author wants, and what you seem to agree on, is that BioWare should revert back to what it once was. I also disagree that "BioWare never needed to go open world." The entire RPG genre is going open world, largely because of the resounding success of Skyrim. Every major RPG is making the jump, whether it be The Witcher, Final Fantasy, even The Legend of Zelda. BioWare has always been a pioneer in the industry, and by merely doing more of the same would show a studio out of touch and largely becoming irrelevant. Going open world is definitely the right direction. What BioWare needs to do, however, is make an open world experience unique to their game philosophy that sets them apart from the rest. If you don't even believe TW3 is a good open world game, then I already see the problem here. Whatever your views of an open world experience are likely horribly skewed. What exactly is a "good" open world game to you? TW3 provided the best of both worlds by creating an engaging open world found in Bethesda games as well as creating an engrossing story with great characters and compelling choices found in BioWare games. There's always room for improvement and I didn't particularly like how sections of the world were gated by level, but overall the world design was absolutely stunning. Whether BioWare has "failed twice" or not is a matter of opinion. From my perspective, they have made a largely working experience that has improved over time. It's not perfect, but I definitely enjoy BioWare's open world experiences more than most games from Ubisoft or other publishers/developers that make open world games around the clock. There's always room for improvement, but going backwards and abandoning the open world approach is not the right course of action. I don't agree. Uncharted 4 and Tell Tale are not open world and still phenomenal. Plus people are getting sick of open world. Although....Yes, perhaps marketing numbers show otherwise. But again, look at Uncharted and Tell Tale. You have just as much if not more critical decision-making in Tell Tale. Uncharted 4 and Tell Tale games also aren't RPGs, so that should be self-explanatory. Uncharted 4 is a linear 3rd person shooter on rails while Tell Tale games are glorified visual novels. When looking at the RPG genre, all of the big titles are going open world. Skyrim showed the industry the potential of open world RPGs. TW3 took it to new heights. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild just took that open world experience in a new direction that was incredibly successful and made it the fourth highest rated game of all time. Final Fantasy XV also was a financial success and critically claimed largely because of its new direction into the open world approach. Open world is the future for RPGs, and I only see developers continuing to refine and improve upon this model for the years to come. BioWare had a positive first step with DAI that was well-received, and MEA largely improved on that approach. The problem is other issues (animations and polish) are taking away the many accomplishments and achievements MEA has actually made over DAI.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2017 20:47:46 GMT
Obviously, BioWARE fan forum is the last place you can admit you like a BioWARE game.
Or is there a cool down timer? We can admit liking a Bioware game that is released prior to Year(N-6) where N is the current year? Is that the rule of cool? Well, I've cared for appearing cool, and I loved ME3 ending, DA2, SWTOR and Andromeda. Did not like Inquisition, because I am like that, have opinions and stuff. And, yeah, I am the "some" that starts a game with a character creator.
As for CDPR, I'd rather take interest in what they will do in the Cyberpunk, than look back at the Witcher.
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Post by linksocarina on Apr 20, 2017 20:52:25 GMT
Also am I the only one who finds the hyperbole of Bioware's reputation being in jepordy to be overplayed now. Folks out there want bioware to fail because it's popular or against their interests or whatever reason under the sun. It is just as annoying as the people who have axes to grind Be honest, after - ME3 ending SWTOR going FTP so soon even though it was susposed to be the WoW killer. DA2 DAI MEA You don't think their reputation is in jeopardy? For me, I don't care if they do fail and break up and leave, as I don't think they can produce the goods of old as they no longer have any focus on what exactly they want to be and what they want to produce. I still have my great memories of games they used to produce but if I want companions or stories or great writing or great features, plenty of other games are doing it in spades. Unlike some, I don't care what colour, gender or age my character is, I will still enjoy the great games out there and don't need a CC just to play a game. Listening to all the people on her with some serious hangups, I would suggest Bioware scrap any romance in games and that would be a great first step. I don't think it's needed and it makes me think that Bioware still think there audience are dweebs with no partners getting off on computer characters shagging. Wait a mo... I think people put too much stock in reputation to begin with in the gaming industry, Bioware included on that. It's a game company, not a house. It's a luxury and a hobby, not a career or a vocation. I'm fine with folks liking or not liking a game, I even love it when we get good academic critique. What I loathe in the end is the annoying, cult like sweep of the fandoms out there. The polygon article to me reads like a masturbatory piece just to fan more flames. It's not intelligent, it's standard in its argument in saying here is where this great company (as if it's an objective truth) fucked up. Bioware is a good studio, but the games all have problems in them. What I am amazed at is how since 2009 bioware has become a pariah no matter what the fuck they do, rightfully or wrongfully. The fandom of gaming by and large is vicious and, to be frank, stupid in terms of how it expresses things en masse. All of those memes and things are funny to a point but say nothing about the issue. Articles like this do nothing but complain about a studio failing to deliver their personal expectations, while theu guess what the problem is through arbitrary means. It's why a lot of the conversations here jump to conclusions or see people provide self congratulatory analysis all the time, which gets us nowhere fast. And bioware tries to overcorrect all the time and give their fans what they want. Good on bioware for caring and trying to fix issues, but a lot of people also need to stop with the dramatic attachment to the studio. And bioware needs to learn that some people are just going to hate them for everything because it's mainstream or SJW or whatever bullshit reason they come up with. So yeah, overly dramatic bs if you ask me. Reputation is meaningless in the face of meaningless andromeda chatter. The only thing to comment on is whether or not this idea by the author is a good one or not. Personally, I think people will just find a meme out of following a straight path, leading is back to square one... But what do I know in the end?
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And ironically that has been a thing folks criticized from previous bioware titles though from the recent past. Going the full linearity route (which they do to an extant anyway) may work, but I think a lot more people are going to be vocal about that. Also am I the only one who finds the hyperbole of Bioware's reputation being in jepordy to be overplayed now. Folks out there want bioware to fail because it's popular or against their interests or whatever reason under the sun. It is just as annoying as the people who have axes to grind The BSN complained, but they were received well. We were also in a period prior to the post- Skyrim open world over-saturation, so everyone was a little starry-eyed at the possibilities. Now we should have enough prominent successes, failures, and middling dreck under our belts to know the score. Besides, the author, no anyone here, is really advocating for "full linearity." BioWare's previous titles weren't fully linear, yet they were still quite good. Our position is merely wanting a more restrained hand. Inquisition is easily a good game if you ignore all the mundanity that surrounds the major quests, and the same can sort of (but not as easily) be said about Andromeda. I bet if you asked a healthy sample of players to pick out the parts of BioWare's most recent titles that they enjoyed the most, you'd probably be left with a very linear game laced with a few digressions for companion banter. If that structure sounds familiar, it's because that's how the old games were structured, and it worked. And while I wouldn't go as far as to say that BioWare's reputation is "in jeopardy," they haven't done much to halt their decline. There's certainly too much pointless hate stemming from fanboyism and anti-SJW rhetoric, but two controversial releases in the form of DA:II and ME3, shutting down the BSN, and two tepid open worlds aren't winning over anyone on the fences. I want constructive discussion about BioWare more than anyone, and I find it annoying that few people appear to want a level-headed discussion about them. Because as much as I don't think BioWare deserve condemnation, they certainly don't deserve all the defense they're getting here.
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Post by smilesja on Apr 20, 2017 20:53:12 GMT
Or maybe fanboys need to stop destroying each other At least you're admitting your one. You know you really need to stop accssing anyone who likes the game a fanboy
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Obviously, BioWARE fan forum is the last place you can admit you like a BioWARE game. Or is there a cool down timer? We can admit liking a Bioware game that is released prior to Year(N-6) where N is the current year? Is that the rule of cool? Well, I've cared for appearing cool, and I loved ME3 ending, DA2, SWTOR and Andromeda. Did not like Inquisition, because I am like that, have opinions and stuff. And, yeah, I am the "some" that cares starts a game with a character creator. Your really over sensitive aren't you. My advice is if these forums are not to your liking, leave. The thread you are in is talking about Open world and mentions TW3, so of course people are going to discuss that game and compare. I'm baffled as to why your still in this thread as it clearly irks you. No will power to move on? Cannot ignore threads you don't like? Looking for validation from others? Plenty of fluffy we love MEA threads you can read.
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Some days i feel like Hermione in goblet of fire reading these forums.
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Post by linksocarina on Apr 20, 2017 20:57:26 GMT
And ironically that has been a thing folks criticized from previous bioware titles though from the recent past. Going the full linearity route (which they do to an extant anyway) may work, but I think a lot more people are going to be vocal about that. Also am I the only one who finds the hyperbole of Bioware's reputation being in jepordy to be overplayed now. Folks out there want bioware to fail because it's popular or against their interests or whatever reason under the sun. It is just as annoying as the people who have axes to grind The BSN complained, but they were received well. We were also in a period prior to the post- Skyrim open world over-saturation, so everyone was a little starry-eyed at the possibilities. Now we should have enough prominent successes, failures, and middling dreck under our belts to know the score. Besides, the author, no anyone here, is really advocating for "full linearity." BioWare's previous titles weren't fully linear, yet they were still quite good. Our position is merely wanting a more restrained hand. Inquisition is easily a good game if you ignore all the mundanity that surrounds the major quests, and the same can sort of (but not as easily) be said about Andromeda. I bet if you asked a healthy sample of players to pick out the parts of BioWare's most recent titles that they enjoyed the most, you'd probably be left with a very linear game laced with a few digressions for companion banter. If that structure sounds familiar, it's because that's how the old games were structured, and it worked. And while I wouldn't go as far as to say that BioWare's reputation is "in jeopardy," they haven't done much to halt their decline. There's certainly too much pointless hate stemming from fanboyism and anti-SJW rhetoric, but two controversial releases in the form of DA:II and ME3, shutting down the BSN, and two tepid open worlds aren't winning over anyone on the fences. I want constructive discussion about BioWare more than anyone, and I find it annoying that few people appear to want a level-headed discussion about them. Because as much as I don't think BioWare deserve condemnation, they certainly don't deserve all the defense they're getting here. You're in the wrong hobby for good critique as it's rare to come by. And this is from someone who tries to provide it all the time too with the writing I do, And probably fails to convey just as much as others oUT there. Writings that few people read or care for as well. Same with the good critiques of games out there...not a lot of press from them.
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Post by solomace on Apr 20, 2017 20:57:56 GMT
At least you're admitting your one. You know you really need to stop accssing anyone who likes the game a fanboy ??? Err, you said "Or maybe fanboys need to stop destroying each other"So are you saying fanboys are just those that don't like the game but like TW3? Who are these fanboys then?
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Some days i feel like Hermione in goblet of fire reading these forums. But you still come back for more so you must be enjoying it
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You know you really need to stop accssing anyone who likes the game a fanboy ??? Err, you said "Or maybe fanboys need to stop destroying each other"So are you saying fanboys are just those that don't like the game? Who are these fanboys then? Fanboys on both sides
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Post by solomace on Apr 20, 2017 21:01:57 GMT
??? Err, you said "Or maybe fanboys need to stop destroying each other"So are you saying fanboys are just those that don't like the game? Who are these fanboys then? Fanboys on both sides So define fanboy please. You brought it up, you said I had to stop accusing people who like the game as being fanboys, so please enlighten me as to why you can say it but I cannot.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2017 21:03:02 GMT
Obviously, BioWARE fan forum is the last place you can admit you like a BioWARE game. Or is there a cool down timer? We can admit liking a Bioware game that is released prior to Year(N-6) where N is the current year? Is that the rule of cool? Well, I've cared for appearing cool, and I loved ME3 ending, DA2, SWTOR and Andromeda. Did not like Inquisition, because I am like that, have opinions and stuff. And, yeah, I am the "some" that cares starts a game with a character creator. Your really over sensitive aren't you. My advice is if these forums are not to your liking, leave. The thread you are in is talking about Open world and mentions TW3, so of course people are going to discuss that game and compare. I'm baffled as to why your still in this thread as it clearly irks you. No will power to move on? Cannot ignore threads you don't like? Looking for validation from others? Plenty of fluffy we love MEA threads you can read. No, I am here to provide a dissenting opinion. It was pointed out to me, it may be "potentially" more valuable than "gushing praise".
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