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Post by General Aetius on Apr 20, 2017 17:18:20 GMT
To start, let's get the elephant in the room outtathaway: ME1-3 is a trilogy of games, Andromeda is more or less standalone. On one hand, some people might not have the patience to sit through another trilogy run so they'd prefer something shorter. On the other hand, others would prefer a loooong trip around the galaxy.
Even so, imagining Andromeda as the start of a new trilogy (as they originally claimed it would be), does it add to its replayability for you?
For me it doesn't. I have replayed the original trilogy at least 5 times from start to finish, and I can see myself starting a 6th. I'm 55% into completion and I don't particularly feel the urge to finish Andromeda. But I'm gonna finish it because I paid close to 100 bucks for it. Though I'm not curious about how it ends and I'm DEFINITELY not seeing myself replaying it a second or third time.
Too many reasons why to mention.
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Post by griffith82 on Apr 20, 2017 17:21:21 GMT
To start, let's get the elephant in the room outtathaway: ME1-3 is a trilogy of games, Andromeda is more or less standalone. Even so, imagining Andromeda as the start of a new trilogy (as they originally claimed it would be), does it add to its replayability for you? For me it doesn't. I have replayed the original trilogy at least 5 times from start to finish, and I can see myself starting a 6th. I'm 55% into completion and I don't particularly feel the urge to finish Andromeda. But I'm gonna finish it because I paid close to 100 bucks for it. Though I'm not curious about how it ends and I'm DEFINITELY not seeing myself replaying it a second or third time. Too many reasons why to mention. This is what makes a game replayable. Did I have fun and enjoy it. I don't care if it has 100 endings or one if I had fun the answer is yes.
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Post by fraggle on Apr 20, 2017 17:27:17 GMT
If MEA is a trilogy, it depends on what they do in the next game. If they keep Ryder and give them more tonal choices and more big choices overall, I'd definitely consider replaying. If they go with a new protag, my desire to replay this is rather low. Maybe once every few years or so. I'd rather keep replaying the trilogy, since I have way too many plans for characters that will actually feel different (unlike Ryder currently) I am way more excited to keep playing the trilogy over and over.
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Post by KaiserShep on Apr 20, 2017 17:30:46 GMT
Replay value of the original trilogy varies greatly from game to game for me, since I rarely do full trilogy runs. I generally only do that if I'm creating an entirely new timeline with a different character, otherwise I may just play whichever with an NG+ playthrough of my maxed out primary Shepard. ME3 took up most of my time, with ME1 and ME2 ranking 2nd and 3rd respectively.
Determining whether or not Andromeda is the start of a new trilogy/series in and of itself doesn't affect replay value for me. The only thing that affects replay value is how it stacks up to subsequent titles. If I enjoy MEA2 more than the first game, then I'll move on and play that more, and so on. Until then, I'm gonna play the shit outta this one. For now, this is probably going to get more mileage out of me than either ME1 or 2. It'll be a while before I exceed my ME3 playthroughs, because there's a heck of a lot of them.
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Apr 20, 2017 17:31:52 GMT
To start, let's get the elephant in the room outtathaway: ME1-3 is a trilogy of games, Andromeda is more or less standalone. Even so, imagining Andromeda as the start of a new trilogy (as they originally claimed it would be), does it add to its replayability for you? For me it doesn't. I have replayed the original trilogy at least 5 times from start to finish, and I can see myself starting a 6th. I'm 55% into completion and I don't particularly feel the urge to finish Andromeda. But I'm gonna finish it because I paid close to 100 bucks for it. Though I'm not curious about how it ends and I'm DEFINITELY not seeing myself replaying it a second or third time. Too many reasons why to mention. This is what makes a game replayable. Did I have fun and enjoy it. I don't care if it has 100 endings or one if I had fun the answer is yes. I had fun playing Uncharted 3 but I had absolutely no reason to play it again after finishing it. I picked it up to play on the hardest difficulty years later but then I had the same "I'll not play this again for a while!" feeling after finishing. ME123 I could play with less than 6 months in between and particularly before ME3 during the hype I was ploughing through ME12 over and over because I loved it so much. I have 4 DA:I playthroughs under my belt and I found new variations every time. I finished DA2 yesterday for the third time and a lot of it felt different from my combination of customization and choice. It definitely matters, I'd argue.
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Post by Sah291 on Apr 20, 2017 17:53:26 GMT
To start, let's get the elephant in the room outtathaway: ME1-3 is a trilogy of games, Andromeda is more or less standalone. On one hand, some people might not have the patience to sit through another trilogy run so they'd prefer something shorter. On the other hand, others would prefer a loooong trip around the galaxy. Even so, imagining Andromeda as the start of a new trilogy (as they originally claimed it would be), does it add to its replayability for you? For me it doesn't. I have replayed the original trilogy at least 5 times from start to finish, and I can see myself starting a 6th. I'm 55% into completion and I don't particularly feel the urge to finish Andromeda. But I'm gonna finish it because I paid close to 100 bucks for it. Though I'm not curious about how it ends and I'm DEFINITELY not seeing myself replaying it a second or third time. Too many reasons why to mention. I would just focus on the main story mission and loyalty quests at this point and finish it if I were you. You really don't have to get to 100% viability on all the planets first. The game doesn't seem to expect you to and you can keep playing after the final mission if you want. But after seeing the ending, yes I think so, it reminds me a lot of ME1, where the main story feels finished, but there's enough left unexplained to keep learning more about the world. The only thing they didn't do, was create the same sense of urgency with another "the reapers are coming!" type declaration. Which is probably smart if they want to avoid writing themselves into a corner. But there's still an overarching mystery there, and places they could take the story. Some of the choices you make could have different consequences, with how your allies get along and whatnot.
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Post by themikefest on Apr 20, 2017 18:12:17 GMT
I've played the trilogy numerous times and will continue doing so. Will I do the same for MEA? Only time will answer that question
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Post by kino on Apr 20, 2017 18:17:07 GMT
I've played through the trilogy three times, with ME3 getting four play throughs. I've already played through MEA twice and I'm definitely doing a third.
The real question is, will I replay Andromeda next year? Or two years from now? I strongly suspect the answer will be "Yes".
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Post by ShadowAngel on Apr 20, 2017 18:24:05 GMT
Depends. Since I've beaten it I've put my 2nd run on halt and expanding into the other various games I've bought the last year but have yet to play. Thief, doom, BF1, ARK(can't necessarily beat as it's a never ending process) plus I'm going to start getting into overwatch for multiplayer since halos gone to shit and there's not many multiplayer games that interest. Would've been nice to see bioware actually put dedicated servers but I understand they wanted to be cheap about it.
I may give it a go 6months to a year from now when they get it fixed up and the DLC launches, but it's lost my interest already for being such a new game.
I've also bought a PS4 pro so I can experiment with Nier automata and the horizon games (damn it people, why must there be exclusives?! I prefer my XB1).
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2017 18:37:14 GMT
I've replayed MET twice, and sort of kind would not have minded the third time. I am on the second PT with my ME:A, and would not mind the third time.... but I doubt I will do the third PT with either tbh. I really love all four games, but once I do a male and a female, and see most of the dialogue and romantic choices, and pick the ones I liked, it gets boring to replay it.
So, about the same.
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Post by cypherj on Apr 20, 2017 18:46:18 GMT
Depends on the patches and DLC. After I played the vanilla ME:3 I had no intentions of playing it again. However, after the extended cut, Leviathan, Omega, the Citadel I replayed it several times.
So I can't answer after just playing the vanilla ME:A. I just finished the game, and right now I have no urge to fire up another playthrough, but we'll see.
I've played ME:1 to death, more times than I can count. ME:2 I've rarely replayed, the linear corridors just wasn't my thing.
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Post by Sailears on Apr 20, 2017 18:58:47 GMT
The combat in MEA is great enough to make it replayable.
I replayed ME1 many times for the story and for the combat. I only ever replayed ME2 for the combat and have no intention of playing it ever again. I have never replayed ME3 because the war story is too heavy and I'd rather not endure it again, despite the fun parts.
So in summary I believe MEA is easily more replayable than ME2/3, and maybe more than ME1 because the combat is so good.
In any case I don't value replayability as a hallmark of a great game - many of the best games I've played are one time only because I don't want to water it down with repeat playthroughs.
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Post by I'm Not Dead Just Yet on Apr 20, 2017 19:29:12 GMT
I've played each game in the trilogy several times each and I will definitely be revisiting them again for a long time. The characters, story and universe are superior in every way compared to MEA.
I'm about 60% through MEA and I haven't touched the campaign in over a week. I might come back later but not with the aim of a 100% playthrough (too many ridiculously tedious sidequests), especially since I also spent a fair bit of money on it (I never learn: don't preorder, wait for user reviews). The characters just don't have the same charm, and the story is very contrived and uninspired in my opinion. I'm trying to like it but I'm really not into it as much as I'd hoped I'd be. I'm very doubtful if I will ever play it again.
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Post by Cyberstrike on Apr 20, 2017 19:54:35 GMT
To start, let's get the elephant in the room outtathaway: ME1-3 is a trilogy of games, Andromeda is more or less standalone. Even so, imagining Andromeda as the start of a new trilogy (as they originally claimed it would be), does it add to its replayability for you? For me it doesn't. I have replayed the original trilogy at least 5 times from start to finish, and I can see myself starting a 6th. I'm 55% into completion and I don't particularly feel the urge to finish Andromeda. But I'm gonna finish it because I paid close to 100 bucks for it. Though I'm not curious about how it ends and I'm DEFINITELY not seeing myself replaying it a second or third time. Too many reasons why to mention. This is what makes a game replayable. Did I have fun and enjoy it. I don't care if it has 100 endings or one if I had fun the answer is yes. I've played the original Mass Effect Trilogy so much that it's actually kind of hard for me to enjoy it anymore just because the played the whole trilogy close to 25 times. I remember finally starting a new playthough on my Xbox One backwards compatibility it was damn near impossible for me to get much out of it because I had just played the thing less than a year ago on my Xbox 360. While I'm still getting my money's worth out of ME:A but I do plan on taking a break from it due personal reasons and just to recharge.
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Post by Thalandor on Apr 20, 2017 20:07:12 GMT
Ignoring story choices and consequences (or lack thereof), there's too much down time and travel in Andromeda to make it fun to replay. Mass effect 2 and 3 are like bang bang action non-stop, with lots of interesting dialog between missions if that's your thing.
In Andromeda there is a lot of load screens and driving and jumping between planets and doing 10 side missions simultaneously and not really following the plot of any of them...
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Post by griffith82 on Apr 20, 2017 20:20:13 GMT
Ignoring story choices and consequences (or lack thereof), there's too much down time and travel in Andromeda to make it fun to replay. Mass effect 2 and 3 are like bang bang action non-stop, with lots of interesting dialog between missions if that's your thing. In Andromeda there is a lot of load screens and driving and jumping between planets and doing 10 side missions simultaneously and not really following the plot of any of them... I might agree with you if I hadn't downloaded EGM for Mass Effect 3. It adds some busy quests plus increases down time but makes it flow oh so much better.
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Post by Conquer Your Dreams on Apr 20, 2017 20:42:15 GMT
Trilogy - every game minimum 10 times, ME2 probably around 12 times. Andromeda - well, 6 days ago i started my second playtrough with Sara... and i didn't go back to it in the last 3 days even for 1 minute, so...
I think i will take a break, until they will make all the patches, some improvements, maybe alternate outfits for companions, and DLC of course...
Witcher 3 GOTY and Battlefield 1 Premium are waiting for me.
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Post by 10k on Apr 20, 2017 20:57:15 GMT
I've played me1 and 2 numerous of times. Played me3 only twice. As for Andromeda, I've not even finished it. I went back to horizon and I'm also playing persona 5. So compared to the trilogy I think Andromeda has no replayability, for me anyway. It just got boring. MP isn't as fun as me3 mp either.
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Post by cheeseandonion on Apr 20, 2017 21:00:12 GMT
Halfway through my second Andromeda playthrough I reinstalled ME1 and haven't been back since.
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Post by Seera1024 on Apr 20, 2017 21:56:02 GMT
This is what makes a game replayable. Did I have fun and enjoy it. I don't care if it has 100 endings or one if I had fun the answer is yes. I had fun playing Uncharted 3 but I had absolutely no reason to play it again after finishing it. I picked it up to play on the hardest difficulty years later but then I had the same "I'll not play this again for a while!" feeling after finishing. ME123 I could play with less than 6 months in between and particularly before ME3 during the hype I was ploughing through ME12 over and over because I loved it so much. I have 4 DA:I playthroughs under my belt and I found new variations every time. I finished DA2 yesterday for the third time and a lot of it felt different from my combination of customization and choice. It definitely matters, I'd argue. Different things matter more to others. I've replayed KOTOR at least 6 times. Every time I did light side female and romanced Carth. Enjoyed every play through. My build was different each time though. And I'm toying with another play through if I can tear myself away from MEA long enough to finish my KOTOR II play through (which is play through #6 and again light side female). As for MEA vs MET, only time will tell. I'm on a second play through at the moment, playing Scott Ryder. My first was as Sara Ryder.
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Post by SimRahzel on Apr 20, 2017 22:07:07 GMT
Halfway through my second Andromeda playthrough I reinstalled ME1 and haven't been back since. That's more or less me too. I've played through the OT an embarrassing number of times. After 16-20 hours in MEA I just gave up and set up my Xbox 360. Currently on OT run 15! Note I don't think MEA is a straight up bad game. It just really really isn't my type of game. And I've played DAI at least 6 times so it isn't even the open world thing.
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Post by vonuber on Apr 20, 2017 22:25:41 GMT
I did 3.66 playthroughs of the trilogy. That was enough, I have no motivation to do another. I might do one more of this and then wait for the sequel (but I haven't even finished this playthrough yet).
I personally don't get the compulsion to continually replay the same things over and over again (even where things can vary, the variance isn't generally enough to make it worthwhile for me). I'd rather try something new.
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Post by Psychevore on Apr 20, 2017 22:35:29 GMT
My relationship with the OT is different than most I think. I only really got into the games when the entire trilogy was released. ME1 and ME2 released in a period of my life where gaming really took a back seat, though I did own both of them for a while.
So I've pretty much always had a full trilogy + DLC for ME1 and ME2 to work with, so I can't make an honest comparison.
I'm on my third playthrough of ME:A though, but I'm not sure if I'll finish it. Long War 2 has renewed it's grip on me. (how good can a mod be? This is DotA level mod, holy shit)
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Post by vonuber on Apr 20, 2017 22:37:03 GMT
My relationship with the OT is different than most I think. I only really got into the games when the entire trilogy was released. ME1 and ME2 released in a period of my life where gaming really took a back seat, though I did own both of them for a while. So I've pretty much always had a full trilogy + DLC for ME1 and ME2 to work with, so I can't make an honest comparison. Same for me, my first playthrough was all the games with pretty much all DLC in one long binge.
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Post by decafhigh on Apr 20, 2017 22:39:55 GMT
I don't know how many times I've played ME1. Lots is about the closest guess I could make.
MEA, I've gotten through it once. If we had some decent Sara presets and CC options I would likely do some more for her to see the various romance options but as it is I can't get much beyond Habitat 7 with a Sara before I just can't take it anymore.
A comparison of the replayability between the two is non-existant for me. If BW manages to update the CC before I lose interest completely maybe I'll give MEA another go but as of now MEA has no replayability for me. One and done.
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