Should they get rid of Kett?

Nah. They were much more interesting to me than Reapers in ME1

They're not Leviathans, but still serviceable enough and the senate/homeworld of theirs is at least mildly intriguing

I'm gonna need Leviathans to somehow make their way into Andromeda though and rule the galaxy. 1 DLC was not enough, they're much better villain material than Reapers/Kett

Would like to see the senate too an the other vassal races but that is something they could had done in ME:A, give some level of dept to the enemy. I mean we did not see a lot of the Qunari in DA but there were characters like Sten and the Arishok that gave the race a different stroke. needed in ME:A with the kett.

The big problems that have to do with the kett are all (as with the entire game) writing based. The Kett by design are pretty fascinating. I mean they are a species that evolves by assimilating other species. They are essentially like reapers or borg or asari but Reapers were more fascinating in how they were presented, borg were more terrifying (even than reapers), and asari do their genetic evolution the kind way. But how the kett evolve and that they have a kind of hierarchy that sounds almost democratic (Senate!) in and of itself begs more investigation. That we didn't get beyond the fact that they were building themselves an army using the native species is TERRIBLE writing. I mean really, fire the writers. There is no kind way to say it at this point. They are all hacks. I've read better fan fiction. I can't even be nice about it now that I just replayed ME1 and am replaying ME2. They did such a subpar awful job that keeping any of them writing for future games only promises failure.


The most horrifying part of this is that the Kett themselves hold so much more potential. Sure they are a bunch of rock faces, but we know nothing about them other than this is how they evolve and their version of procreation. We have no idea why they do this. We have no idea how they started doing this. We have no idea about what their people are like when they aren't mutating systems into more of their people. They have to be wildly diverse because we saw a few types of them (unique looking with seeming unique abilities) and that was just this system which was almost entirely composed of former angara. All they did was show us what they were doing. Hint at a bit more of how they function (senate, orders) and show us a shitty cartoon villain that nobody really cared about. If they could bring themselves to learn how to actually write then we might be far more impressed than we are at this point. But that is on the writers. The Kett themselves have unlimited potential. That it was squandered shows nothing more than they have hacks writing for them.

But to respond specifically to your arguments, here we go:


They aren't impressive.
- actually they kind of are. They just aren't written to show us what is impressive about them. 


Their ships look stupid.
- Meh. Most of the ships from MET looked pretty standard.


Nobody feels anything for them as an enemy.
- I do. Curiosity. Sadly, it was not even the tiniest bit fed in this game. DLC better fucking well get on that.


They are uninteresting.
- You don't think a race that evolves through mutating other species into a version of them and then using the genes they think are best to evolve is interesting? Especially knowing that they seem to be some kind of society based on a military kind of structure and possible democracy (senate). We only saw what might be a military branch that goes out and assimilates other species. We haven't seen anything else about them or their culture. They even seem to treat their military a bit like a religion which add more curiosity to them. 


We know virtually all we needed to about them already.
- I would say we know absolutely nothing compared to what we need to and should know. We were basically introduced to a whole new species and the only thing we learned about them was virtually nothing. I listed already what we know and can guess at. By contrast, in ME1 we learned so much more about so many other species. We walked away from ME1 with far more answers about Asari, Salarians, Turians, Geth, Quarians, Reapers, and Rachni (did I miss anyone?). I submit  that the lackluster appeal of the Kett is far more about the writers wholly failing at their job than anything to do with the kett. Remember we play these games to learn about characters and species as much as we do for combat and general story. That the writers introduce two new species and can only be bothered to tell us about one of them is a failure in writing of epic proportions. They should be ashamed. And if this was what they were told to do to keep it a mystery, then whomever told them to do that should be hung.

Theres no real reason to keep fighting them other than 'They still want to fight you.'
- Not true. They are still out there. They know about all our original races. They might even be going after the quarian arc. We have to stop them before they come after us. Remember, Archon was actually keeping them distracted by his obsession on the vaults. Had they been more focused they might have gotten around to changing all our races. No doubt at some point we will see rock face versions of all our original races. Let's get on stopping that and perhaps send some former STG agents out to investigate.

We've beaten them.
- We have beaten Archon. Huge difference.

Can we call the Kett defeated?
Not even a little. Only the archon is defeated. He was a cartoon moron.

Or at the least have them relegated to some minor faction that got too cocky and spent 75 years failing to conquer Angara?
That would be a foolish waste of a potentially very interesting species that we have next to no real knowledge about.

Make "The real enemy" someone worth fighting.
- Make the writing make us feel like we have an interesting enemy in the Kett and there you are. 

The failure of the Kett is the failure of the writers. As so many have said, the writing in this game was subpar. As I play MET over, I wouldn't even say subpar. That is generous beyond fathoming. Sucked is more appropriate.
 

Behemoths?  The Kett know how to make them already.  

I understand the real world reasoning for the gripe. In-game, though, their mostly unvaried appearances are a logical result of their DNA. They are something similar to clones. The "chosen" we fight are exalted angara (something I noticed and explicitly called out in January). The other forms we see may very well be from different species. It's hard to say for certain. We know that kett don't breed, though, and seem to reproduce solely through genetic manipulation.

The "Destined" were definitely not turians. First, we learn that the exalted krogan was the first member of the Milky Way species to be exalted. Though Ryder logically assumes that salarians will soon follow, we don't hear this from the kett themselves. The turians, asari and humans were all tagged for further study, but weren't as well known to the kett just yet. Secondly, those Destined have been part of the Archon's forces for decades. "The Sword" is his right hand, and she certainly has been serving him for longer than turians have been in Heleus.

I think it's curious that the kett still have genders, despite lacking reproductive organs.

solved? I have more questions than answers with them. they don't need to be the main enemy but we are not done with them yet.

We can't fight a war.  At least not do so expecting anything other than utter defeat.  I don't know if it is specifically said anywhere in game how many Angara there are left but their society has been pretty well devastated by the Kett.  There are only 100K Milky Way survivors.  We have no warships and no means of producing any, we are barely able to even feed our people at this point.

The Kett are, presumably, a large galactic empire.  They have armies, weapons, warships, supply lines, organization.  Any confrontation with them beyond Ryder screwing up the plans of whatever expeditionary force led by an incompetent leader they had in Heleus only ends with everyone exalted or dead.  We had a better chance back in the Milky Way in a straight up fight against the Reapers honestly.

Unless the Jaardan come swooping in to save the day or some other out of left field scenario comes into play outright war with the Kett ends really badly for the Angara and the AI.

For #1 I'm not sure if I think that is better or worse honestly.   Unless Meridian allows us to just start mass producing Remnant ships to build up a galaxy sized fleet of warships in very short order I don't see how much help it would be.  If it does allow us to do that I may facepalm hard enough to seriously injure myself.

As for #2, I dunno.  They could really be anything at this point.

Having no warships is one thing, but having no means to produce more substantial weapons of war is debatable. In order for the Initiative to survive beyond its small collection of outposts in Heleus, it would have to have some means of mass production in order to expand and create a proper working infrastructure beyond the Nexus. Having an interplanetary society necessitates the ability to build new ships, and if they can build ships at all, they can produce varieties that are combat capable. They already have fighters, and they can probably build more and create full fledge squadrons to defend their interests. While that's probably peanuts compared to the likely bulk waiting beyond the cluster, the remnant fleet that Ryder can command is a bit of a wild card. 

Like I said though, we aren't in any sort of position to do that.  Most of our small group of people are still asleep and we are struggling just to feed and supply the ones that aren't.  Having a means of mass producing any ship more or less the Dreadnaught class ships we would need to fight a war is generations down the line just from a manpower perspective alone.  The Remnant fleet Ryder controlled wasn't so much a fleet honestly as it was a squadron of fighter ships that just happened to be conveniently sitting there waiting to be used.  We have no idea if we even can produce more.

If the Kett really are a galactic empire they already have all of that in spades.  What we saw the Archon controlling in Heleus is supposed to be just the tip of a needle, correct?  If the Kett see us as any sort of threat worthy of attention they could just roll in and wipe us out.  At least in the fight against the reapers we already had armies and fleets and a whole galaxy of people ready to fight them. 

Unless Ryder is going to turn into Luke Skywalker and save us all from the evil Kett Emperor after fighting exalted daddyRyder and turning him back to the good side I don't see much good coming from fighting the Kett.  And I really hope no one from BW reads what I just wrote.

ZOMg, the Kett are unoriginal
The Kett are pretty much the same as the reapers, they assimilate DNA, commit acts of genocide. Whereas the Remnants are pretty much Protheans, an older, more advanced civilization that mysteriously disappeared. If you think about it, the Reapers are simply the Darkspawn with Spaceships.
IMHO, Bioware was never big on originality. Dragon Age is basically a clone of D&D. However, Mass Effect combined two very different genres,and did so successfully. There are tons of COD clones, as well as D&D-like RPGs. The introduction of Biotics however is very creative.


ZOMG, the Kett all look alike


The Chinese all look alike to someone who didn't grow up in Eastern Asia, the people and the architecture. The average American(I cannot speak for other countries) probably couldn't tell the difference between Shanghai and Beijing. Or the difference between the Han or the hundreds of others ethnicities. In the U.S. , people often confuse the Sikhs with Muslims. Likewise, The Kett would all look alike to someone from the Milky Way.

They have enough people to build armies and fleets, establish societies, governments, develop technology that allows at a minimum travel from cluster to cluster.  They are way ahead of us. 

Just out of curiosity I looked up what it takes to build an Aircraft carrier. A nimitz class (nuclear powered) aircraft carrier is around 333 m in length.  That's about half the size of a Quarian Cruiser.  A ME Dreadnought is anywhere from 800 m to 1 km in length.  About 3 times the size of a modern day carrier.  A modern day carrier takes (from what my google-foo could find) 150,000 people to build, including anybody who built any part of the carrier and the people supporting them.  I assume this doesn't include all the manufacturing required in getting the materials to build those parts (steel manufacturing, electronics, nuclear materials, etc.)

Even assuming vastly superior manufacturing methods we still need people to mine metals and eezo, produce systems for components, armaments, propulsion, etc.  We need space stations built first to even begin construction (I'm assuming these ships aren't built in orbit).  Just building even 1 Dreadnought class ship is beyond the AI's capabilities simply in terms of manpower.  Even the Pathfinder's frigate had to be built back in the Milky Way and hauled over.

It would take a couple generations of popping out babies just to have enough folks to mine and mass produce the basic materials needed to even start making ships (again metals, eezo, etc.).  To make a ship the size of a cruiser or dreadnought would require a staggering amount of raw materials.

Now yes I realize this is a video game so they will just hand wave or space magic that all away.  Still from a numbers perspective fighting the Kett empire instead of a small expedition force only ends in every Angara and AI member dead or exalted.

If they wanted to make it somewhat believable becoming allies with the Kett is the only real solution.  Have a ranking member of the Kett Empire showing up "oh that Archon and Primus are just real asses.  We don't exalt sentient species, they were just a radical splinter group that left the empire. etc., etc.".  Or we find out the Kett really aren't an 'empire' and what we saw with the Archon was the bulk of their forces, everyone back in the 'empire' is just artists and politicians or what have you.

Or we just ignore all plausibility, fight straggling forces here and there for 3 games then space magic it all away in the last 5 minutes of the finale. Worked so well for them last time.