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Post by zipzap2000 on Apr 22, 2017 6:34:42 GMT
They aren't impressive. Their ships look stupid. Nobody feels anything for them as an enemy. They are uninteresting. We know virtually all we needed to about them already. Theres no real reason to keep fighting them other than 'They still want to fight you.' We've beaten them. Can we call the Kett defeated? Or at the least have them relegated to some minor faction that got too cocky and spent 75 years failing to conquer Angara? Make "The real enemy" someone worth fighting. I've noticed that you like to complain a lot. I've started several positive threads since launch and regularly post in other positive threads as well. Like this one. bsn.boards.net/thread/9096/post-negative-media-day-andromedaMaybe you're not looking through those threads too much yourself or maybe complaints are just nmore memorable? This thread is just about discussing the idea I havent called anyone the B-team insulted opposing views or attacked BioWare on a personal level so I think its fine really. You're free to disagree though and I wont knock you for thinking something I don't like.
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Post by leo3abp on Apr 22, 2017 13:23:29 GMT
They should get rid of everything Andromeda completely. Establish Sheploo-Destroy as canon ending in trilogy, and let us explore milky way, both known and new systems, in the aftermath of war with Reapers.
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Apr 22, 2017 13:47:07 GMT
They should give them the DA2 qunari treatment and then show us that some subgroup of Kett are not pro-Exaltation.
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Post by leo3abp on Apr 22, 2017 13:52:05 GMT
They should give them the DA2 qunari treatment and then show us that some subgroup of Kett are not pro-Exaltation. Geth-heretics again? No, thanks. That amount of cheesy stupidity was enough in OT.
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Apr 22, 2017 13:54:15 GMT
They should give them the DA2 qunari treatment and then show us that some subgroup of Kett are not pro-Exaltation. Geth-heretics again? No, thanks. That amount of cheesy stupidity was enough in OT. So you just want another game where the Kett are the unquestionably evil guys that you shoot in the face? If you don't want another Geth Heretics subversion then I'd rather just not see the Kett again or this new series will never take off.
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Post by KaiserShep on Apr 22, 2017 14:04:21 GMT
They should give them the DA2 qunari treatment and then show us that some subgroup of Kett are not pro-Exaltation. Geth-heretics again? No, thanks. That amount of cheesy stupidity was enough in OT. What? I thought the Geth heretics was one of the better aspects of ME2, especially when Legion speaks about it in terms of mathematics. Before Legion's introduction, the Geth were basically just robotic mooks that had some kind of technoreligious devotion to the reapers. If the geth stayed that way, they would have lost their value in the narrative after the first game, since there's absolutely nothing more to add to that. Adding the division in their consensus made them more complex a faction and gave us the possibility that they don't all have to be hostile 100% of the time.
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Post by flyingovertrout on Apr 22, 2017 15:13:08 GMT
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Post by hazuki on Apr 22, 2017 15:24:46 GMT
I agree to a degree. They did get kind of samey after 60+ hours to fight and while their story for a first game is serviceable i dont think they should remain the main focus of the new games. I personally do not think they're as interesting as the Reapers. Thats what i felt slightly disappointed with. The threat of the Kett didnt match that of the Reapers and the Archons face made me laugh sometimes. Kinda reminded me of a doll with those weird eyes and shiny cheeks.
Point is the just dont seem threatening enough compared to previous enemies. They should stay in it, but not be the main focus in the next one.
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Post by bryanky5 on Apr 22, 2017 15:27:27 GMT
I agree to a degree. They did get kind of samey after 60+ hours to fight and while their story for a first game is serviceable i dont think they should remain the main focus of the new games. I personally do not think they're as interesting as the Reapers. Thats what i felt slightly disappointed with. The threat of the Kett didnt match that of the Reapers and their Archon face made me laugh sometimes. Kinda reminded me of a doll with those weird eyes and shiney cheeks. Point is the just dont seem threatening enough compared to previous enemies. They should stay in it, but not be the main focus in the next one. The Jardaan and their "opposition" who unleashed the scourge are supposed to be the mysterious race like the Reapers. The Kett just seem to be mid level threat in the grand scheme. Unless their story grows into something bigger of course.
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Post by leo3abp on Apr 22, 2017 15:28:42 GMT
This leo3abp character. Sure, I am willing to provide myself as antagonist model for future ME game for 1.5% of total profits from game sales. At least antagonist would not be lousy that time. Now where do I sign?
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Post by KaiserShep on Apr 22, 2017 15:28:54 GMT
I don't think the kett are meant to be analogous to the reapers in this story. The presence of the scourge suggests something far far worse is possibly still out there.
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Post by KaiserShep on Apr 22, 2017 15:29:31 GMT
This leo3abp character. Sure, I am willing to provide myself as antagonist model for future ME game for 1.5% of total profits from game sales. At least antagonist would not be lousy that time. Now where do I sign? This cat lizard better have a good boss fight though, like fighting a wyvern in space.
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Post by leo3abp on Apr 22, 2017 15:38:25 GMT
Geth-heretics again? No, thanks. That amount of cheesy stupidity was enough in OT. So you just want another game where the Kett are the unquestionably evil guys that you shoot in the face? If you don't want another Geth Heretics subversion then I'd rather just not see the Kett again or this new series will never take off. And you want yet another game featuring another "story of redemption" and virtually all evil guys turning out to become good, one way or another, and atoning for their stuff? How about we get evil guys that are actually evil, but not in a chaotic-evil sense, putting it in DnD terms, but evil with reasonable motive. Sort of like Tyranny level of evil maybe? But even more refined, like gray shades of evil... Because retelling the same story again and again eventually gets old. That's the reason why I never consider story telling among the strong BW traits, unlike their dialogue and character writing which pretty much the only things that make-or-break their games.
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Post by luke on Apr 22, 2017 16:08:46 GMT
So you just want another game where the Kett are the unquestionably evil guys that you shoot in the face? If you don't want another Geth Heretics subversion then I'd rather just not see the Kett again or this new series will never take off. And you want yet another game featuring another "story of redemption" and virtually all evil guys turning out to become good, one way or another, and atoning for their stuff? How about we get evil guys that are actually evil, but not in a chaotic-evil sense, putting it in DnD terms, but evil with reasonable motive. Sort of like Tyranny level of evil maybe? But even more refined, like gray shades of evil... Because retelling the same story again and again eventually gets old. That's the reason why I never consider story telling among the strong BW traits, unlike their dialogue and character writing which pretty much the only things that make-or-break their games. Well, the heretic Geth didn't "become good" because of ME2's revelations. Their actions were still evil, and they remained evil. The realisation that not all Geth are the same added depth to their race by providing insight. Likewise, although the Roekarr can be described as "evil", that doesn't make all Angarans evil. There will almost always be disagreements in methodology by beings who have higher thought. I was hoping we'd be able to ally ourselves with Kett traitors who wanted to rebel against the Kett authorities, however after learning more about them and realising how deeply exaltation is ingrained into their culture and biology, I find it hard to believe that there would be a significant force of Kett who would go against it. The Kett remind me of Halo's Covenant, and as a huge Halo fan, that's a good thing in my eyes. Instead of getting rid of the Kett, they should be developed. Their culture and society should be explored, as well as all the races they've subjugated and exalted. I want to learn more about their leaders and technology and the intricacies of exaltation. I want to be able to recruit their vassal species to rebel against them, creating an event similar to the Great Schism. At the moment, I find it hard to see the Chosen and Annointed as "true Kett". I want to see the differences between the Chosen and "ancestral Kett" in terms of their status in Kett society and individuality. Are the Chosen Kett individuals in the same sense that individuals from other species are?
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Post by hazuki on Apr 22, 2017 18:24:13 GMT
I agree to a degree. They did get kind of samey after 60+ hours to fight and while their story for a first game is serviceable i dont think they should remain the main focus of the new games. I personally do not think they're as interesting as the Reapers. Thats what i felt slightly disappointed with. The threat of the Kett didnt match that of the Reapers and their Archon face made me laugh sometimes. Kinda reminded me of a doll with those weird eyes and shiney cheeks. Point is the just dont seem threatening enough compared to previous enemies. They should stay in it, but not be the main focus in the next one. The Jardaan and their "opposition" who unleashed the scourge are supposed to be the mysterious race like the Reapers. The Kett just seem to be mid level threat in the grand scheme. Unless their story grows into something bigger of course. True, still even they dont seem completely malevolent. Regardless im still open to see what they do. I enjoyed the game very much. I wish they would get a bit more creative with the alien designs though. Practically every race is humanoid/bipedal and has a head with eyes on the front and hands and feet. There needs to be more weird looking ones like the Elcor and Hanar. They struck a good balance in the original trilogy. Andromeda being bigger should have a lot more races of all sorts.
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Post by House Targaryen on Apr 22, 2017 18:31:37 GMT
Every last Kett should be exterminated with extreme prejudice by Ryder and company.
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Post by zeypher on Apr 22, 2017 18:34:07 GMT
No i hope they rather imrpove and add more detail to the kett. Removing something is not always the right idea, better to try and improve and fix it.
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