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RonnieBlastoff
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Numerical Damage Tests Aug 8, 2017 10:49:21 GMT

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Post by RonnieBlastoff on Aug 8, 2017 10:49:21 GMT

Aug 7, 2017 17:18:45 GMT Transcended One said:

Aug 7, 2017 16:49:19 GMT kalil said:

As a parent to a child that cannot say "dad" or his own name at an age of twelve due to the lastest super assassin fad this dialogue is a tiny bit painful to read. But hey, these are the intarwebs, so I will cope

It wasn't meant to mock or make fun of those who are seriously challenged by Asperger or other varieties. It never is. But you can blame me for being Dutch, we make fun of Down-syndrome people, diseases like cancer, black people, blondes, Belgians 😉

It's more that lately autism gained a lot of social awareness (even though it's anything but new), and here and there there are people who suddenly decide they must be autistic (self-diagnosed ofcourse), similar to ADD not that long ago. People have a bit of OCD, and tell the world they have Asperger's, so that people pity them or something...

It really sucks to those actually having it, or people close to them.

As a father of a physically-impaired 4-year-old (not the same affection, but a similar level of worries, since she can't even talk, or take care of herself), I wish you all the best with your child.

I am so, fudging offended... I can't believe you would casually say some shyt like this...

YOUR A DUDE? :sick:

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Numerical Damage Tests Aug 8, 2017 11:36:47 GMT via mobile N7Mith likes this

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Post by Transcended One on Aug 8, 2017 11:36:47 GMT

Aug 8, 2017 10:49:21 GMT RonnieBlastoff said:

Aug 7, 2017 17:18:45 GMT Transcended One said:

It wasn't meant to mock or make fun of those who are seriously challenged by Asperger or other varieties. It never is. But you can blame me for being Dutch, we make fun of Down-syndrome people, diseases like cancer, black people, blondes, Belgians 😉

It's more that lately autism gained a lot of social awareness (even though it's anything but new), and here and there there are people who suddenly decide they must be autistic (self-diagnosed ofcourse), similar to ADD not that long ago. People have a bit of OCD, and tell the world they have Asperger's, so that people pity them or something...

It really sucks to those actually having it, or people close to them.

As a father of a physically-impaired 4-year-old (not the same affection, but a similar level of worries, since she can't even talk, or take care of herself), I wish you all the best with your child.

I am so, fudging offended... I can't believe you would casually say some shyt like this...

YOUR A DUDE? :sick:

So? That circle-thingy with that little arrow pointing upwards diagonally didn't give it away?

Last Edit: Aug 8, 2017 12:48:37 GMT by Transcended One

TheThirdRace
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Numerical Damage Tests Aug 8, 2017 13:11:37 GMT unclemonster likes this

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Post by TheThirdRace on Aug 8, 2017 13:11:37 GMT

Guys please, can you move this elsewhere... This thread is for math and results...

Back to topic, does getting into cover reduce the Health & Shield Regeneration Delay? And by how much?

Asking because the Batarian Vanguard can get some serious reduction with Defensive Positioning (100%) and Multicapacitor (100%). Any extra reduction from being on cover would be nice even if there's a diminishing return.

Edit: www.reddit.com/r/MECoOp/comments/6cfvde/psa_cover_only_affects_base_precision/
Thanks peddroelm !

Last Edit: Aug 8, 2017 14:28:17 GMT by TheThirdRace

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Numerical Damage Tests Aug 8, 2017 13:11:54 GMT unclemonster likes this

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Post by JRandall0308 on Aug 8, 2017 13:11:54 GMT

Interesting thread on reddit about the Ascendant's orb appearing to bypass DR or do more damage than listed -- blasting you down to healthgate when it shouldn't. Is this something that can be researched?

redd.it/6s9qzu

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Numerical Damage Tests Aug 8, 2017 13:31:05 GMT unclemonster and Ronik82 like this

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Post by peddroelm on Aug 8, 2017 13:31:05 GMT

Aug 8, 2017 13:11:37 GMT TheThirdRace said:

Guys please, can you move this elsewhere... This thread is for math and results...

Back to topic, does getting into cover reduce the Health & Shield Regeneration Delay? And by how much?

Asking because the Batarian Vanguard can get some serious reduction with Defensive Positioning (100%) and Multicapacitor (100%). Any extra reduction from being on cover would be nice even if there's a diminishing return.

this I've dug up from our discord ... might not the final form

"The base amount of Shield Regen Delay is 7s, at 50 shields per second. In cover, you have an additive bonus of 180%. So if you have 25% Shield Regen Delay bonus and you're in cover, the new time is going to be 7 / (1+ 1.8 + .25) = 2.3s. For shield regeneration amount, you have a 50% additive bonus. So, with a 25% bonus, you will have 50 * (1 + .5 + .25) = 87.5 shields per second."

worth searching on reddit for shield regen by /u/Hello_Isaac and /u/SRKm00b I vaguely recall some comments related to tech armor evolutions

Last Edit: Aug 8, 2017 13:31:48 GMT by peddroelm

capn233
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Numerical Damage Tests Aug 8, 2017 23:51:51 GMT akots, JRandall0308, and 5 more like this

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Post by capn233 on Aug 8, 2017 23:51:51 GMT

Ascendant Attacks Bypass Damage Reduction - 1.10

The suspicions of manhunt64 on reddit are correct.

Ascendant attacks bypass damage reduction. This is a property of the attacks (bolt and orb), and is not exclusive to Platinum.

Hold the Line only applies to health, not shields over low health.

Damage Reduction Sources Tested against Ascendant:
-Fortify, and Unmoving Defense evo
-Defensive Positioning
-Hold the Line
-Aerial Assault
-Rage, and Unstoppable evo
-Tech Armor
-Biotic Ascension
-Bastion evolution in Charge

***

Despair all ye who click on spoiler

SPOILER: Click to show

TSol 760h, 420.75s

Fortify 70DR
Defensive Positioning 50DR in cover
Hold the Line 200DR <30% health

Chosen (Bronze)

Fortify Off, Out of Cover
SH, 56850640, 125, 89E24B10, 420.750, 420.750, 392.554, -28.196

20.140*1.4 = 28.196

Fortify Off, In Cover
SH, 56948937, 5391, 89E24B10, 420.750, 420.750, 407.323, -13.427

20.140*[1/(1+0.5)] = 13.427

Fortify On, Out of Cover
SH, 56998250, 141, 89E24B10, 420.750, 420.750, 404.164, -16.586

20.140*[1/(1+0.7)]*1.4 = 16.586

Fortify On, In Cover
SH, 56979906, 29735, 89E24B10, 420.750, 420.750, 411.596, -9.154

20.140*[1/(1+0.7+0.5)] = 9.154

Fortify On, Health Set to 100, Out of Cover
SH, 57354171, 125, 89E24B10, 420.750, 39.278, 22.692, -16.586
SH, 57355015, 844, 89E24B10, 420.750, 22.692, 6.106, -16.586
SH, 57355140, 125, 89E24B10, 420.750, 6.106, 0.000, -6.106 <-Shield Gate Hit
HP, 57355781, 641, 89E24B10, 760.000, 100.333, 92.713, -7.620
HP, 57355906, 125, 89E24B10, 760.000, 100.000, 92.380, -7.620

20.140*[1/(1+0.7)]*1.4 = 16.586

20.140*[1/(1+0.7+2)]*1.4 = 7.620

-Hold the Line does not apply to shields

Let hits drop health
HP, 57803218, 906, 89E24B10, 760.000, 760.000, 743.414, -16.586
HP, 57803343, 125, 89E24B10, 760.000, 743.414, 726.828, -16.586
HP, 57803484, 141, 89E24B10, 760.000, 726.828, 710.243, -16.586
HP, 57803906, 422, 89E24B10, 760.000, 710.243, 693.657, -16.586
HP, 57804046, 140, 89E24B10, 760.000, 693.657, 677.071, -16.586
HP, 57804171, 125, 89E24B10, 760.000, 677.071, 660.485, -16.586
HP, 57805250, 1079, 89E24B10, 760.000, 660.485, 643.900, -16.586
HP, 57805343, 93, 89E24B10, 760.000, 643.900, 627.314, -16.586
HP, 57805375, 32, 89E24B10, 760.000, 627.314, 610.728, -16.586
HP, 57805484, 109, 89E24B10, 760.000, 610.728, 594.142, -16.586
HP, 57805515, 31, 89E24B10, 760.000, 594.142, 577.557, -16.586
HP, 57805953, 438, 89E24B10, 760.000, 577.557, 560.971, -16.586
HP, 57805953, 0, 89E24B10, 760.000, 560.971, 544.385, -16.586
HP, 57806078, 125, 89E24B10, 760.000, 544.385, 527.799, -16.586
HP, 57806078, 0, 89E24B10, 760.000, 527.799, 511.214, -16.586
HP, 57806218, 140, 89E24B10, 760.000, 511.214, 494.628, -16.586
HP, 57806218, 0, 89E24B10, 760.000, 494.628, 478.042, -16.586
HP, 57806671, 453, 89E24B10, 760.000, 478.042, 461.456, -16.586
HP, 57806781, 110, 89E24B10, 760.000, 461.456, 444.871, -16.586
HP, 57806812, 31, 89E24B10, 760.000, 444.871, 428.285, -16.586
HP, 57806906, 94, 89E24B10, 760.000, 428.285, 411.699, -16.586
HP, 57806953, 47, 89E24B10, 760.000, 411.699, 395.113, -16.586
HP, 57807046, 93, 89E24B10, 760.000, 395.113, 378.528, -16.586
HP, 57807312, 266, 89E24B10, 760.000, 378.528, 361.942, -16.586
HP, 57807453, 141, 89E24B10, 760.000, 361.942, 345.356, -16.586
HP, 57807578, 125, 89E24B10, 760.000, 345.356, 328.770, -16.586
HP, 57807718, 140, 89E24B10, 760.000, 328.770, 312.185, -16.586
HP, 57807843, 125, 89E24B10, 760.000, 312.185, 295.599, -16.586
HP, 57807984, 141, 89E24B10, 760.000, 295.599, 279.013, -16.586
HP, 57808281, 297, 89E24B10, 760.000, 279.013, 262.427, -16.586
HP, 57808406, 125, 89E24B10, 760.000, 262.427, 245.842, -16.586
HP, 57808546, 140, 89E24B10, 760.000, 245.842, 229.256, -16.586
HP, 57808671, 125, 89E24B10, 760.000, 229.256, 212.670, -16.586
HP, 57808812, 141, 89E24B10, 760.000, 212.670, 205.050, -7.620
HP, 57808953, 141, 89E24B10, 760.000, 205.050, 197.429, -7.620
HP, 57809140, 187, 89E24B10, 760.000, 197.429, 189.809, -7.620
HP, 57809281, 141, 89E24B10, 760.000, 189.809, 182.188, -7.620
HP, 57809406, 125, 89E24B10, 760.000, 182.188, 174.568, -7.620
HP, 57809906, 500, 89E24B10, 760.000, 174.568, 169.124, -5.443
HP, 57810171, 265, 89E24B10, 760.000, 169.124, 164.329, -4.795
HP, 57810515, 344, 89E24B10, 760.000, 164.329, 156.709, -7.620
HP, 57810640, 125, 89E24B10, 760.000, 156.709, 149.088, -7.620
HP, 57810781, 141, 89E24B10, 760.000, 149.088, 141.468, -7.620
...
SH, 57839140, 62, 89E24B10, 420.750, 72.449, 55.863, -16.586
SH, 57839218, 78, 89E24B10, 420.750, 55.863, 39.278, -16.586
SH, 57839281, 63, 89E24B10, 420.750, 39.278, 22.692, -16.586
SH, 57839875, 594, 89E24B10, 420.750, 22.692, 6.106, -16.586
SH, 57839953, 78, 89E24B10, 420.750, 6.106, 0.000, -6.106
HP, 57840546, 593, 89E24B10, 760.000, 205.200, 197.580, -7.620
HP, 57840671, 125, 89E24B10, 760.000, 205.200, 197.580, -7.620
HP, 57840781, 110, 89E24B10, 760.000, 205.200, 197.580, -7.620
HP, 57840812, 31, 89E24B10, 760.000, 197.580, 189.959, -7.620

--

Ascendant (Bronze)

Base 136.8, 264.6 (1.5x shields)
OOC 190.512, 264.6 (1.5x shields)

Fortify Off, Out of Cover
SH, 58250546, 404171, 89E24B10, 420.750, 420.750, 23.850, -396.900
SH, 58253046, 2500, 89E24B10, 420.750, 420.750, 230.238, -190.512

Fortify Off, In Cover
SH, 58295453, 7203, 89E24B10, 420.750, 420.750, 23.850, -396.900 <-orb
SH, 58303781, 2172, 89E24B10, 420.750, 420.750, 284.670, -136.080 <-bolt
SH, 58320453, 4766, 89E24B10, 420.750, 420.750, 23.850, -396.900
SH, 58323109, 2656, 89E24B10, 420.750, 420.750, 284.670, -136.080

Fortify On, Out of Cover
SH, 58343484, 7500, 89E24B10, 420.750, 420.750, 23.850, -396.900
SH, 58346015, 2531, 89E24B10, 420.750, 420.750, 230.238, -190.512
SH, 58366609, 7922, 89E24B10, 420.750, 420.750, 23.850, -396.900
SH, 58368781, 2172, 89E24B10, 420.750, 420.750, 230.238, -190.512

Fortify On, In Cover
SH, 58479171, 7937, 89E24B10, 420.750, 420.750, 23.850, -396.900
SH, 58481859, 2688, 89E24B10, 420.750, 420.750, 284.670, -136.080

Fortify Off, Hold the Line (health <228), Out of Cover
HP, 63612781, 1828, 97281FB0, 760.000, 227.000, 36.488, -190.512 <-bolt

190.512*1/(1+2) = 63.504

-Ascendant ignores Fortify DR.
-Hold the Line not applied to Bolt

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TSol 760h, 420.75s

Fortify 70DR; Unmoving Defense 10DR/s max 50DR
Defensive Positioning 50DR in cover
Hold the Line 200DR <30% health

Chosen (Bronze)

Fortify On, Out of Cover
SH, 59876140, 8500, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 404.164, -16.586
SH, 59876265, 125, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 404.164, -16.586
SH, 59876406, 141, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 404.164, -16.586
SH, 59876671, 265, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 404.164, -16.586
SH, 59876812, 141, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 404.261, -16.489
SH, 59876937, 125, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 404.452, -16.298
SH, 59877703, 766, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 405.086, -15.664
SH, 59877843, 140, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 405.258, -15.492
SH, 59877968, 125, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 405.342, -15.408
SH, 59878437, 469, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 405.752, -14.998
SH, 59878578, 141, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 405.832, -14.918
SH, 59878703, 125, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 405.910, -14.840
SH, 59884671, 5968, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 407.934, -12.816
SH, 59884812, 141, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 407.934, -12.816
SH, 59884937, 125, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 407.934, -12.816
SH, 59885609, 672, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 407.934, -12.816
SH, 59885734, 125, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 407.934, -12.816
SH, 59885875, 141, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 407.934, -12.816
SH, 59886437, 562, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 407.934, -12.816
SH, 59886578, 141, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 407.934, -12.816
SH, 59886703, 125, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 407.934, -12.816
SH, 59887375, 672, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 407.934, -12.816
SH, 59887500, 125, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 407.934, -12.816
SH, 59887640, 140, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 407.934, -12.816
SH, 59888265, 625, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 407.934, -12.816
SH, 59888406, 141, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 407.934, -12.816
SH, 59888531, 125, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 407.934, -12.816
SH, 59889203, 672, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 407.934, -12.816
SH, 59889343, 140, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 407.934, -12.816
SH, 59889468, 125, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 407.934, -12.816
SH, 59889968, 500, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 407.934, -12.816

20.140*[1/(1+0.7+0.5)]*1.4 = 12.816

Fortify On, In Cover
SH, 59951968, 125, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 413.291, -7.459
SH, 59952671, 703, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 413.291, -7.459
SH, 59952812, 141, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 413.291, -7.459
SH, 59952937, 125, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 413.291, -7.459
SH, 59953500, 563, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 413.291, -7.459
SH, 59953640, 140, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 413.291, -7.459
SH, 59953765, 125, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 413.291, -7.459

20.140*[1/(1+0.7+0.5+0.5)] = 7.459

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Ascendant, Chosen (Bronze)

Fortify On, Out of Cover
SH, 60354875, 141, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 404.197, -16.553
SH, 60355234, 359, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 404.577, -16.173
SH, 60355375, 141, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 404.669, -16.081
SH, 60355515, 140, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 404.850, -15.900
SH, 60359937, 4422, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 407.934, -12.816
SH, 60360078, 141, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 407.934, -12.816
SH, 60360203, 125, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 407.934, -12.816
SH, 60360468, 265, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 407.934, -12.816
SH, 60360609, 141, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 407.934, -12.816
SH, 60360734, 125, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 407.934, -12.816
SH, 60361171, 437, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 407.934, -12.816
SH, 60361312, 141, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 407.934, -12.816 <-max unmoving stack
SH, 60361468, 156, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 23.850, -396.900 <-orb
SH, 60362937, 1469, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 230.238, -190.512 <-bolt

SH, 60419375, 438, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 404.577, -16.173
SH, 60419515, 140, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 404.760, -15.990
SH, 60419640, 125, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 404.850, -15.900
SH, 60419937, 297, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 405.115, -15.635
SH, 60420078, 141, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 405.201, -15.549
SH, 60420203, 125, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 405.370, -15.380
SH, 60420750, 547, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 230.238, -190.512
SH, 60420781, 31, 97BD2330, 420.750, 230.238, 215.267, -14.971
SH, 60420906, 125, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 405.936, -14.814
SH, 60421046, 140, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 406.014, -14.736

SH, 60450781, 1766, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 230.238, -190.512 <-bolt
SH, 60455640, 4859, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 407.934, -12.816 <-max unmoving stack
SH, 60455781, 141, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 407.934, -12.816
SH, 60455781, 0, 97BD2330, 420.750, 407.934, 11.034, -396.900 <-orb
SH, 60455906, 125, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 407.934, -12.816
SH, 60456406, 500, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 404.164, -16.586
SH, 60456546, 140, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 404.164, -16.586
SH, 60456671, 125, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 404.164, -16.586
SH, 60457078, 407, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 404.389, -16.361
SH, 60457203, 125, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 404.577, -16.173
SH, 60457343, 140, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 404.669, -16.081
SH, 60457843, 500, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 405.115, -15.635
SH, 60457968, 125, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 405.201, -15.549
SH, 60458109, 141, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 405.370, -15.380
SH, 60458281, 172, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 230.238, -190.512
SH, 60458781, 500, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 405.858, -14.892
SH, 60458906, 125, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 406.014, -14.736
SH, 60459046, 140, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 406.090, -14.660

Fortify On, In Cover
SH, 60491171, 1093, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 412.683, -8.067
SH, 60491312, 141, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 412.747, -8.003
SH, 60491437, 125, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 412.779, -7.971
SH, 60491843, 406, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 412.903, -7.847
SH, 60491968, 125, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 412.934, -7.816
SH, 60492109, 141, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 412.994, -7.756
SH, 60492671, 562, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 413.141, -7.609
SH, 60492812, 141, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 413.198, -7.552
SH, 60492937, 125, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 413.226, -7.524
SH, 60493671, 734, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 23.850, -396.900 <-orb
SH, 60493703, 32, 97BD2330, 420.750, 23.850, 16.391, -7.459 <-max unmoving stack
SH, 60493843, 140, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 413.291, -7.459
SH, 60493968, 125, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 413.291, -7.459
SH, 60494437, 469, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 413.291, -7.459
SH, 60494578, 141, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 413.291, -7.459
SH, 60494703, 125, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 413.291, -7.459
SH, 60495843, 1140, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 284.670, -136.080 <-bolt
SH, 60497468, 1625, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 413.291, -7.459
SH, 60497609, 141, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 413.291, -7.459
SH, 60497750, 141, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 413.291, -7.459
SH, 60499468, 1718, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 413.291, -7.459
SH, 60499609, 141, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 413.291, -7.459
SH, 60499750, 141, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 413.291, -7.459
SH, 60500203, 453, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 413.291, -7.459
SH, 60500343, 140, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 413.291, -7.459
SH, 60501171, 828, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 23.850, -396.900 <-orb
SH, 60501468, 297, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 413.291, -7.459
SH, 60501609, 141, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 413.291, -7.459
SH, 60501750, 141, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 413.291, -7.459
SH, 60502109, 359, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 413.291, -7.459
SH, 60503343, 1234, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 284.670, -136.080 <-bolt

SH, 60527250, 1407, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 412.428, -8.322
SH, 60527375, 125, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 412.462, -8.288
SH, 60527515, 140, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 412.530, -8.220
SH, 60527750, 235, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 412.596, -8.154
SH, 60527875, 125, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 412.629, -8.121
SH, 60528015, 140, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 412.694, -8.056
SH, 60528312, 297, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 412.790, -7.960
SH, 60528437, 125, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 412.821, -7.929
SH, 60528578, 141, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 412.852, -7.898
SH, 60529703, 1125, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 413.207, -7.543
SH, 60529843, 140, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 413.235, -7.515
SH, 60529968, 125, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 413.263, -7.487
SH, 60531171, 1203, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 413.291, -7.459
SH, 60531312, 141, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 413.291, -7.459
SH, 60531437, 125, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 413.291, -7.459
SH, 60532640, 1203, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 413.291, -7.459
SH, 60532781, 141, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 413.291, -7.459
SH, 60532906, 125, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 413.291, -7.459 <-max unmoving stack
SH, 60533109, 203, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 23.850, -396.900 <-orb
SH, 60533375, 266, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 413.291, -7.459
SH, 60533515, 140, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 413.291, -7.459
SH, 60533640, 125, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 413.291, -7.459
SH, 60534281, 641, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 413.291, -7.459
SH, 60534406, 125, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 413.291, -7.459
SH, 60534546, 140, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 413.291, -7.459
SH, 60535015, 469, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 413.291, -7.459
SH, 60535109, 94, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 284.670, -136.080 <-bolt
SH, 60535140, 31, 97BD2330, 420.750, 284.670, 277.211, -7.459
SH, 60535281, 141, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 413.291, -7.459
SH, 60540609, 5328, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 413.291, -7.459
SH, 60540609, 0, 97BD2330, 420.750, 413.291, 16.391, -396.900
SH, 60540750, 141, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 413.291, -7.459
SH, 60540875, 125, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 413.291, -7.459
SH, 60541515, 640, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 413.291, -7.459
SH, 60541640, 125, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 413.291, -7.459
SH, 60541781, 141, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 413.291, -7.459
SH, 60548109, 6328, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 23.850, -396.900
SH, 60548343, 234, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 413.291, -7.459
SH, 60548484, 141, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 413.291, -7.459
SH, 60548609, 125, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 413.291, -7.459
SH, 60549343, 734, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 413.291, -7.459
SH, 60549468, 125, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 413.291, -7.459
SH, 60549609, 141, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 413.291, -7.459
SH, 60550109, 500, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 284.670, -136.080
SH, 60550312, 203, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 413.291, -7.459
SH, 60550437, 125, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 413.291, -7.459
SH, 60550578, 141, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 413.291, -7.459
SH, 60550906, 328, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 413.291, -7.459
SH, 60551046, 140, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 413.291, -7.459
SH, 60551171, 125, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 413.291, -7.459
SH, 60551812, 641, 97BD2330, 420.750, 420.750, 413.291, -7.459

*****

Havoc 885h, 623s

Aerial - 100DR while airborne

Chosen (Bronze)
SH, 67234843, 140, 9459D170, 623.000, 623.000, 594.804, -28.196
SH, 67235281, 438, 9459D170, 623.000, 623.000, 594.804, -28.196
SH, 67235406, 125, 9459D170, 623.000, 623.000, 594.804, -28.196
SH, 67235546, 140, 9459D170, 623.000, 623.000, 608.902, -14.098
SH, 67235937, 391, 9459D170, 623.000, 623.000, 608.902, -14.098
SH, 67236312, 375, 9459D170, 623.000, 623.000, 613.601, -9.399
SH, 67236437, 125, 9459D170, 623.000, 623.000, 613.601, -9.399
SH, 67236578, 141, 9459D170, 623.000, 623.000, 613.601, -9.399
SH, 67239343, 2765, 9459D170, 623.000, 623.000, 613.601, -9.399
SH, 67239468, 125, 9459D170, 623.000, 623.000, 613.601, -9.399
SH, 67239609, 141, 9459D170, 623.000, 623.000, 613.601, -9.399
SH, 67240203, 594, 9459D170, 623.000, 623.000, 613.601, -9.399
SH, 67240343, 140, 9459D170, 623.000, 623.000, 613.601, -9.399
SH, 67240468, 125, 9459D170, 623.000, 623.000, 613.601, -9.399
SH, 67240812, 344, 9459D170, 623.000, 623.000, 613.601, -9.399
SH, 67240937, 125, 9459D170, 623.000, 623.000, 613.601, -9.399
SH, 67241078, 141, 9459D170, 623.000, 623.000, 613.601, -9.399
SH, 67241500, 422, 9459D170, 623.000, 623.000, 608.902, -14.098
SH, 67241765, 265, 9459D170, 623.000, 623.000, 608.902, -14.098
SH, 67242140, 375, 9459D170, 623.000, 623.000, 608.902, -14.098
SH, 67242281, 141, 9459D170, 623.000, 623.000, 608.902, -14.098
SH, 67242406, 125, 9459D170, 623.000, 623.000, 608.902, -14.098
SH, 67244000, 1594, 9459D170, 623.000, 623.000, 594.804, -28.196
SH, 67244140, 140, 9459D170, 623.000, 623.000, 594.804, -28.196
SH, 67244281, 141, 9459D170, 623.000, 623.000, 594.804, -28.196

20.140*1.4 = 28.196

20.140*[1/(1+1*2)]*1.4 = 9.399

20.140*[1/(1+1)]*1.4 = 14.098

--

Chosen, Ascendant (Bronze)
SH, 67926015, 31, 9459D170, 623.000, 594.804, 197.904, -396.900
SH, 67926125, 110, 9459D170, 623.000, 623.000, 594.804, -28.196
SH, 67926578, 453, 9459D170, 623.000, 623.000, 594.804, -28.196
SH, 67926718, 140, 9459D170, 623.000, 623.000, 594.804, -28.196
SH, 67926859, 141, 9459D170, 623.000, 623.000, 594.804, -28.196
SH, 67927281, 422, 9459D170, 623.000, 623.000, 594.804, -28.196
SH, 67927421, 140, 9459D170, 623.000, 623.000, 594.804, -28.196
SH, 67927546, 125, 9459D170, 623.000, 623.000, 594.804, -28.196
SH, 67928046, 500, 9459D170, 623.000, 623.000, 594.804, -28.196
SH, 67928187, 141, 9459D170, 623.000, 623.000, 594.804, -28.196
SH, 67928187, 0, 9459D170, 623.000, 594.804, 404.292, -190.512
SH, 67928312, 125, 9459D170, 623.000, 623.000, 594.804, -28.196

SH, 68004718, 140, 9459D170, 623.000, 623.000, 594.804, -28.196
SH, 68005281, 563, 9459D170, 623.000, 623.000, 608.902, -14.098
SH, 68005546, 265, 9459D170, 623.000, 623.000, 608.902, -14.098
SH, 68006218, 672, 9459D170, 623.000, 623.000, 613.601, -9.399
SH, 68006359, 141, 9459D170, 623.000, 623.000, 613.601, -9.399
SH, 68006484, 125, 9459D170, 623.000, 623.000, 613.601, -9.399
SH, 68007546, 1062, 9459D170, 623.000, 623.000, 613.601, -9.399
SH, 68007687, 141, 9459D170, 623.000, 623.000, 613.601, -9.399
SH, 68007812, 125, 9459D170, 623.000, 623.000, 613.601, -9.399
SH, 68008046, 234, 9459D170, 623.000, 623.000, 613.601, -9.399
SH, 68008187, 141, 9459D170, 623.000, 623.000, 613.601, -9.399
SH, 68008187, 0, 9459D170, 623.000, 613.601, 216.701, -396.900
SH, 68008312, 125, 9459D170, 623.000, 623.000, 613.601, -9.399
SH, 68008953, 641, 9459D170, 623.000, 623.000, 613.601, -9.399
SH, 68009078, 125, 9459D170, 623.000, 623.000, 613.601, -9.399
SH, 68009218, 140, 9459D170, 623.000, 623.000, 613.601, -9.399
SH, 68009625, 407, 9459D170, 623.000, 623.000, 613.601, -9.399
SH, 68009750, 125, 9459D170, 623.000, 623.000, 613.601, -9.399
SH, 68009890, 140, 9459D170, 623.000, 623.000, 613.601, -9.399
SH, 68010156, 266, 9459D170, 623.000, 623.000, 432.488, -190.512

SH, 68037750, 125, 9459D170, 623.000, 623.000, 613.601, -9.399
SH, 68037890, 140, 9459D170, 623.000, 623.000, 613.601, -9.399
SH, 68038312, 422, 9459D170, 623.000, 623.000, 613.601, -9.399
SH, 68038453, 141, 9459D170, 623.000, 623.000, 613.601, -9.399
SH, 68038578, 125, 9459D170, 623.000, 623.000, 613.601, -9.399
SH, 68038593, 15, 9459D170, 623.000, 613.601, 216.701, -396.900
SH, 68039218, 625, 9459D170, 623.000, 623.000, 613.601, -9.399
SH, 68039359, 141, 9459D170, 623.000, 623.000, 613.601, -9.399
SH, 68039484, 125, 9459D170, 623.000, 623.000, 613.601, -9.399
SH, 68040046, 562, 9459D170, 623.000, 623.000, 613.601, -9.399
SH, 68040187, 141, 9459D170, 623.000, 623.000, 613.601, -9.399
SH, 68040218, 31, 9459D170, 623.000, 613.601, 423.089, -190.512
SH, 68040312, 94, 9459D170, 623.000, 623.000, 613.601, -9.399
SH, 68040812, 500, 9459D170, 623.000, 623.000, 608.902, -14.098
SH, 68040953, 141, 9459D170, 623.000, 623.000, 608.902, -14.098
SH, 68041093, 140, 9459D170, 623.000, 623.000, 608.902, -14.098
SH, 68045890, 4797, 9459D170, 623.000, 623.000, 226.100, -396.900

-Ascendant ignores DR from Aerial Assault

***

Krogan Merc 994h, 429s

Rage - 15DR, 15DR, 50DR on kill

Chosen (Bronze)
SH, 68318140, 140, 9762A850, 429.000, 429.000, 400.804, -28.196
SH, 68318265, 125, 9762A850, 429.000, 429.000, 400.804, -28.196
SH, 68320859, 2594, 9762A850, 429.000, 429.000, 407.311, -21.689
SH, 68321000, 141, 9762A850, 429.000, 429.000, 407.311, -21.689
SH, 68321531, 531, 9762A850, 429.000, 429.000, 407.311, -21.689
SH, 68377859, 125, 9762A850, 429.000, 429.000, 407.311, -21.689
SH, 68378000, 141, 9762A850, 429.000, 429.000, 407.311, -21.689
SH, 68378437, 437, 9762A850, 429.000, 429.000, 413.336, -15.664
SH, 68378562, 125, 9762A850, 429.000, 429.000, 413.336, -15.664
SH, 68378562, 0, 9762A850, 429.000, 413.336, 397.671, -15.664

20.140*[1/(1+0.3)]*1.4 = 21.689

20.140*[1/(1+0.3+0.5)]*1.4 = 15.664

Ascendant, Chosen (Bronze)
SH, 68724812, 9766, 9762A850, 429.000, 429.000, 32.100, -396.900
SH, 68727875, 3063, 9762A850, 429.000, 429.000, 238.488, -190.512
SH, 68837671, 125, 9762A850, 429.000, 429.000, 407.311, -21.689
SH, 68842937, 5266, 9762A850, 429.000, 429.000, 32.100, -396.900
SH, 68845437, 2500, 9762A850, 429.000, 429.000, 238.488, -190.512

SH, 69048718, 31, 9762A850, 429.000, 429.000, 32.100, -396.900
SH, 69048828, 110, 9762A850, 429.000, 429.000, 407.311, -21.689
SH, 69048953, 125, 9762A850, 429.000, 429.000, 407.311, -21.689
SH, 69050359, 1406, 9762A850, 429.000, 429.000, 327.231, -101.769
SH, 69052187, 1828, 9762A850, 429.000, 429.000, 238.488, -190.512
SH, 69052390, 203, 9762A850, 429.000, 429.000, 413.336, -15.664
SH, 69052515, 125, 9762A850, 429.000, 429.000, 407.311, -21.689

SH, 69244062, 125, 9762A850, 429.000, 429.000, 413.336, -15.664
SH, 69244203, 141, 9762A850, 429.000, 429.000, 413.336, -15.664
SH, 69244390, 187, 9762A850, 429.000, 429.000, 32.100, -396.900
SH, 69246062, 1672, 9762A850, 429.000, 429.000, 238.488, -190.512

-Ascendant ignores DR from Rage

***

Human Sentinel 510h, 257.5s

Tech Armor - 65DR

Chosen (Bronze)
SH, 69570125, 125, 9177DC50, 257.500, 257.500, 240.412, -17.088
SH, 69570265, 140, 9177DC50, 257.500, 257.500, 240.412, -17.088

20.140*[1/(1+0.65)]*1.4 = 17.088

Ascendant (Bronze)
SH, 69973593, 2328, 9177DC50, 257.500, 257.500, 66.988, -190.512 <-bolt
SH, 70016671, 281, 9177DC50, 1000.000, 1000.000, 603.100, -396.900 <-orb

-Ascendant ignores Tech Armor DR

***

Kineticist 459h, 395s

Biotic Ascension - 130DR

Chosen (Bronze)
SH, 70280921, 765, 920FAC40, 395.000, 395.000, 382.741, -12.259
SH, 70281062, 141, 920FAC40, 395.000, 395.000, 382.741, -12.259

20.140*[1/(1+1.3)]*1.4 = 12.259

Ascendant (Bronze)
SH, 70860203, 703, 920FAC40, 1000.000, 1000.000, 603.100, -396.900
SH, 70862500, 0, 920FAC40, 395.000, 395.000, 204.488, -190.512

-Ascendant ignores Biotic Ascension DR

***

Human Vanguard

Charge - Bastion - 75DR

Chosen (Bronze)
SH, 71182890, 203, 8D8A4CD0, 445.000, 445.000, 416.804, -28.196
SH, 71184812, 1922, 8D8A4CD0, 445.000, 445.000, 428.888, -16.112
SH, 71184953, 141, 8D8A4CD0, 445.000, 445.000, 428.888, -16.112
SH, 71185078, 125, 8D8A4CD0, 445.000, 445.000, 428.888, -16.112
SH, 71185453, 375, 8D8A4CD0, 445.000, 445.000, 428.888, -16.112
SH, 71185593, 140, 8D8A4CD0, 445.000, 445.000, 428.888, -16.112
SH, 71185718, 125, 8D8A4CD0, 445.000, 445.000, 428.888, -16.112
SH, 71185859, 141, 8D8A4CD0, 445.000, 445.000, 428.888, -16.112
SH, 71185984, 125, 8D8A4CD0, 445.000, 445.000, 428.888, -16.112
SH, 71186125, 141, 8D8A4CD0, 445.000, 445.000, 428.888, -16.112
SH, 71186359, 234, 8D8A4CD0, 445.000, 445.000, 428.888, -16.112
SH, 71186484, 125, 8D8A4CD0, 445.000, 445.000, 428.888, -16.112
SH, 71186625, 141, 8D8A4CD0, 445.000, 445.000, 428.888, -16.112
SH, 71186687, 62, 8D8A4CD0, 445.000, 445.000, 428.888, -16.112
SH, 71186812, 125, 8D8A4CD0, 445.000, 445.000, 428.888, -16.112
SH, 71186953, 141, 8D8A4CD0, 445.000, 445.000, 428.888, -16.112
SH, 71187125, 172, 8D8A4CD0, 445.000, 445.000, 428.888, -16.112
SH, 71187250, 125, 8D8A4CD0, 445.000, 445.000, 428.888, -16.112
SH, 71187250, 0, 8D8A4CD0, 445.000, 428.888, 412.776, -16.112
SH, 71187390, 140, 8D8A4CD0, 445.000, 445.000, 428.888, -16.112
SH, 71187390, 0, 8D8A4CD0, 445.000, 428.888, 412.776, -16.112
SH, 71187515, 125, 8D8A4CD0, 445.000, 445.000, 428.888, -16.112
SH, 71187859, 344, 8D8A4CD0, 445.000, 445.000, 416.804, -28.196

20.140*[1/(1+0.75)]*1.4 = 16.112

Chosen, Ascendant (Bronze)
SH, 71645593, 6172, 8D8A4CD0, 445.000, 445.000, 48.100, -396.900
SH, 71648296, 2703, 8D8A4CD0, 445.000, 445.000, 254.488, -190.512

SH, 71846031, 141, 8D8A4CD0, 445.000, 445.000, 428.888, -16.112
SH, 71846156, 125, 8D8A4CD0, 445.000, 445.000, 428.888, -16.112
SH, 71847828, 1672, 8D8A4CD0, 445.000, 445.000, 48.100, -396.900

SH, 72384156, 531, 8D8A4CD0, 445.000, 445.000, 416.804, -28.196
SH, 72388062, 3906, 8D8A4CD0, 445.000, 445.000, 428.888, -16.112
SH, 72388203, 141, 8D8A4CD0, 445.000, 445.000, 428.888, -16.112
SH, 72388328, 125, 8D8A4CD0, 445.000, 445.000, 428.888, -16.112
SH, 72388531, 203, 8D8A4CD0, 445.000, 445.000, 254.488, -190.512
SH, 72388859, 328, 8D8A4CD0, 445.000, 445.000, 428.888, -16.112
SH, 72389000, 141, 8D8A4CD0, 445.000, 445.000, 428.888, -16.112
SH, 72389125, 125, 8D8A4CD0, 445.000, 445.000, 428.888, -16.112
SH, 72389500, 375, 8D8A4CD0, 445.000, 445.000, 428.888, -16.112

-Ascendant ignores DR from Bastion

***

Last Edit: Aug 8, 2017 23:53:13 GMT by capn233

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Post by RonnieBlastoff on Aug 9, 2017 1:38:30 GMT

I thought you couldn't be below 30% health with shields up anyway? I noticed on even Hadept when I have that last sliver after escaping a platinum lockdown that my health usually goes up pretty far, not half, but farther than 30%

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Numerical Damage Tests Aug 9, 2017 3:47:35 GMT

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Post by capn233 on Aug 9, 2017 3:47:35 GMT

Aug 9, 2017 1:38:30 GMT RonnieBlastoff said:

I thought you couldn't be below 30% health with shields up anyway? I noticed on even Hadept when I have that last sliver after escaping a platinum lockdown that my health usually goes up pretty far, not half, but farther than 30%

It is dependent on health regen cap, but it is possible to get shields restored over health by other means.

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Numerical Damage Tests Aug 9, 2017 12:27:08 GMT

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Aug 8, 2017 23:51:51 GMT capn233 said:

Ascendant Attacks Bypass Damage Reduction - 1.10
This is a property of the attacks (bolt and orb), and is not exclusive to Platinum.

Awesome testing work!

Does this property persist with reflected Ascendant orb attacks via. Backlash? (Do any enemies even have DR to bypass?)

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Numerical Damage Tests Aug 9, 2017 22:15:42 GMT

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Post by capn233 on Aug 9, 2017 22:15:42 GMT

Aug 9, 2017 12:27:08 GMT JRandall0308 said:

Aug 8, 2017 23:51:51 GMT capn233 said:

Ascendant Attacks Bypass Damage Reduction - 1.10
This is a property of the attacks (bolt and orb), and is not exclusive to Platinum.

Awesome testing work!

Does this property persist with reflected Ascendant orb attacks via. Backlash? (Do any enemies even have DR to bypass?)

My guess would be that it wouldn't, but also I don't think enemies have DR for the most part. Checking them when they spawn might be worthwhile though.

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Post by crashsuit on Aug 10, 2017 4:13:39 GMT

Sorry if this has already been discussed, I searched this thread for "barrel" but couldn't find any mentions of it. Has anyone done any testing on the purple biotic(?) barrels on Magma? There are three of them, I think. Can't remember if I've seen them on any other maps.

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barrels went trough a lot of stealth changes ..
At first they would so some insane combo damage but only when properly detonated ..
Then they would do insane combo damage when upon destruction by any means (the good times).
Then with the introduction of platinum their super combo damage was removed so they are pretty much back to a cheap source of visual effects to consume processing power with little player benefit ..

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Numerical Damage Tests Aug 11, 2017 1:32:50 GMT

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Post by The Joe-Man on Aug 11, 2017 1:32:50 GMT

Aug 10, 2017 6:03:19 GMT peddroelm said:

Aug 10, 2017 5:42:11 GMT s4nholo said:

Will the shorty be added to the google dps sheet on the front page?

try this thing www.xainesworld.com/mpwepcalc

The values for the Shorty are all wrong. Pre-release values maybe?

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Post by peddroelm on Aug 11, 2017 2:48:28 GMT

Aug 11, 2017 1:32:50 GMT The Joe-Man said:

Aug 10, 2017 6:03:19 GMT peddroelm said:

try this thing www.xainesworld.com/mpwepcalc

The values for the Shorty are all wrong. Pre-release values maybe?

not made by me - you can reach the creator on reddit /u/XainesWorld

www.reddit.com/r/MECoOp/comments/6sdm5d/advanced_mp_weapon_calculator_all_buffs_with_dps/

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Numerical Damage Tests Aug 15, 2017 20:51:32 GMT

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Numerical Damage Tests Aug 30, 2017 1:39:22 GMT

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Post by JulianVerse on Aug 30, 2017 1:39:22 GMT

Sorry, but I'm dumb and having trouble finding the answer to this and am hoping I can get an answer without being called an idiot who can't search more than twice:

Does Offensive Tech's rank 5 anti-armor increase Invasion's debuff or only the initial damage and explosion? Or some other combination of anything?

Thanks

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Numerical Damage Tests Aug 30, 2017 2:22:16 GMT

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Post by toast on Aug 30, 2017 2:22:16 GMT

Aug 11, 2017 1:32:50 GMT The Joe-Man said:

Aug 10, 2017 6:03:19 GMT peddroelm said:

try this thing www.xainesworld.com/mpwepcalc

The values for the Shorty are all wrong. Pre-release values maybe?

Any idea where to find the correct values? I suppose people are kinda done with this game to invest time to test, anyway.

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Numerical Damage Tests Aug 30, 2017 6:46:26 GMT via mobile

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Post by vanelsa on Aug 30, 2017 6:46:26 GMT

In the description for the regular AR Barrel (and other standard barrel mods), it says that it increases base weapon damage by X%. The long and short barrel mods say that they substantially increase weapon damage but don't mention modifying its base damage.

Has anyone done tests to confirm that it's an additive and not multiplicative bonus to weapon damage? And if it is based off of base weapon damage?

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Numerical Damage Tests Aug 31, 2017 12:35:37 GMT

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Aug 30, 2017 1:39:22 GMT JulianVerse said:

Sorry, but I'm dumb and having trouble finding the answer to this and am hoping I can get an answer without being called an idiot who can't search more than twice:

Does Offensive Tech's rank 5 anti-armor increase Invasion's debuff or only the initial damage and explosion? Or some other combination of anything?

Thanks

It does NOT increase the debuff. Shield evo is probably better for this kit to at least increase overload damage.
My main build leaves this passive tree at 4, and I also put 4 ranks in overload.
Elemental tech is only proc by overload for 2.5 seconds, so those last 2 passives evos aren't that great on this kit.

My secondary build leaves overload at 1 rank and max everything else.

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