So...why did BW completely rewrite Krogan society?

It's actually covered in the book.  Morda was exceptional in being a clan leader - like, really exceptional.  Kesh is an engineer so she's not a warrior.  As to the rest, well, Andromeda was supposed to be a fresh start.  If you stick with how it's "always been" then you'll get what you've always got.

I never said the women don't fight thats obviously not true.

I don't even agree with OP.

I don't how ever buy into the idea Shiagur is proof that Krogan women had more say than what we're told in the OT.

A simple flick through Tuchanka will shiw you its a Male dominated society with little focus on females.

There is a blatant rewrite showcasing integrated camps, Krogan being nice and asking for second chances and that gat damned Morda fight.

Its all immersion breaking.

And again Shiagur is more important for what she stood for than what she actually achieved. Her crown glory was being avenged by her angry male followers.

This was cleopatra not Boudica.


And as far as Nakmor joining the initiative, nope.

Theyre are 1400 krogan in Andromeda from all clans.

Nakmor is gone.

The thing is they showed us everything.

A Krogan city is built around its Maw hammers which are their largest fighting arenas. On the way to the Arena dedicated to Kalross' glory you come across Krogan artwork and another smaller fighting pit.

The entire city is full statues dedicated to the male image and covered in impact craters.

No maps exist here. You can assume its been a long time since these craters were made.

They havent changed because they wanted to, the Krogan evolved to be the way they were.

The sex of the statuary was never clear to me - I didn't see a quad anywhere, nor any sign that parts had been broken off.  IIRC, Javik seems to think the statues are memorials of some kind - but Javik also interpreted a drawing as representing submission, and I thought it was a classroom and represented education - lol.  What you assume to be a fighting pit could just as easily be some other kind of auditorium or public gathering place.

I'm not entirely sure what you're trying to say here.  There have always been a few individuals that don't fit their species' stereotype.

Early humans were hunter-gatherers and largely kept to their own tribes. Other tribes were mostly kill-on-sight. As time progressed and people got more intelligent, they learned that working together was often more beneficial than constant war. It's called evolution and adaption.

Just because Krogan are known as angry warmongers, doesn't mean they have to always be angry warmongers. The Krogan who signed up for the Initiative are probably more forward thinkers than the Krogan they left behind in the Milky Way. I don't think Bioware "rewrote" anything. It's just the natural progression of any race with an interest in long-term survival among other races.

Female krogans beating male krogans in poorly animated combat is not something which couldn't happen in OT, they were shown to be tough enough on multiple occasions.

What irked me however is that cheap humanization of their society. Morda trying to set up date nights and courting etiquette, like seriously why? What writers tried to achieve by putting krogans in human-like society structure? Comedy effect?
Males and females now live in one settlement? Ok, fine. Why would they have to break both infamous and traditional "breeding request" system? What's the need to switch to traditional families?
For one of most of progressive companies out there, BW really seems to be fixated on family stuff in MEA.

 It's especially pathetic considering one of the critics is a member who role plays as a Krogan on the forum. 

Don't you suppose the krogan had established other ways to deal with runts or whatever?  I had the impression that, due to the genophage, quite a few of them were born dead and others very weak and didn't survive very long.  I dunno.  What I do know is that it was pretty clearly established that kids live with the female clans and adult males generally have precious little contact with them.  I don't know that Drack was especially feeling old and useless at that point; he was having a lot of medical issues and pain at the time.

I admit the expression "flies in the face" probably sounds more aggressive than what I intended to express.  It is out of the norm, contrary to tradition.


Because they'd lived in separate clans for so long, they didn't know how to court.


Well, it is pretty funny.

I think the point is that what we saw of krogan culture in MET was simply their adaptation to living with the genophage. The ending slides of ME3 show them in family units - I interpret that to mean that they returned to their pre-genophage social structure. I'd noticed that, for example, the planetary description for Garvug refers to them having lived in family units pre-genophage - and talking with Eve in ME3 makes it pretty clear that the genophage had a huge impact on their social organization.

Did you really just blame feminists for this? Smh.

The Krogan's development in Andromeda is a natural evolution that makes sense contextually, especially with birth rates increasing exponentially. 4% is huge. The krogan are less one-dimensional now, how is that a bad thing?

We are talking about less than a thousand individual krogan, here - ambient dialogue at New Tuchunka mentions they've got less than 200 at the colony and I'm being very generous with my estimates as to how many are running around on off-site/off-world missions, have joined up with the outcasts, and have remained on the Nexus. There's likely less than five hundred of them in Heleus.

And, my point there, is that such a small sample size doesn't need to be indicative of the whole of their society.

ME:A krogan give the angry straight white male gamers another opportunity to attack feminism and SJWs.