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Post by iago on May 1, 2017 21:27:57 GMT
Great. Now BW will patch nothing but this on Thursday. By that I mean take away the save, not fix the premium packs. Thanks OP. Lol What makes you think that? BW isn't dumb, someone had to programm the pity counter into it, meaning it was intentional. Why would they change that now? Because people figured it out? They also know ppl would figure it out eventually, same as ppl figured out the drop rates in ME3...
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Post by SalMasRac on May 1, 2017 21:34:02 GMT
UNLESS you get TWO N7s in the next pack, in that case they would remain fairly comparable. I would put money on the fact that your next pack will have 2 N7 items on it. His 10 pack stretch from 34-44 only awarded him with 1.
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Post by dustin1280 on May 1, 2017 21:36:21 GMT
@salmacras
Yeah i missed that originally and my next post fixed what i said.
Ultimately premium packs are a suckers bet and expert packs are the way to go, the only time premium should even be CONSIDERED is if you are going for mods specifically or using Andromeda points.
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Post by SalMasRac on May 1, 2017 21:39:08 GMT
Great. Now BW will patch nothing but this on Thursday. By that I mean take away the save, not fix the premium packs. Thanks OP. Lol What makes you think that? BW isn't dumb, someone had to programm the pity counter into it, meaning it was intentional. Why would they change that now? Because people figured it out? They also know ppl would figure it out eventually, same as ppl figured out the drop rates in ME3... Maybe the guy who coded it did so subversively because he knew the store was bullshit and was doing us a small favor before the bigwigs find out and make it work as intended
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Post by dustin1280 on May 1, 2017 21:41:01 GMT
What makes you think that? BW isn't dumb, someone had to programm the pity counter into it, meaning it was intentional. Why would they change that now? Because people figured it out? They also know ppl would figure it out eventually, same as ppl figured out the drop rates in ME3... Maybe the guy who coded it did so subversively because he knew the store was bullshit and was doing us a small favor before the bigwigs find out and make it work as intended This would be the most awful thing ever and I think I would completely give up on MEA if that happened.
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Post by pantherdane on May 1, 2017 23:58:46 GMT
Great. Now BW will patch nothing but this on Thursday. By that I mean take away the save, not fix the premium packs. Thanks OP. Lol What makes you think that? BW isn't dumb, someone had to programm the pity counter into it, meaning it was intentional. Why would they change that now? Because people figured it out? They also know ppl would figure it out eventually, same as ppl figured out the drop rates in ME3... was kinda joking here ya know. I dont really expect them to nerf the pity drop
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Post by vomder on May 2, 2017 0:12:17 GMT
Great. Now BW will patch nothing but this on Thursday. By that I mean take away the save, not fix the premium packs. Thanks OP. Lol BW isn't dumbI don't know about that.
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Post by iago on May 2, 2017 7:58:48 GMT
Insulting has never been a good way to make an argument.
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Post by JRandall0308 on May 2, 2017 20:44:30 GMT
But a pity RNG whose mechanics are hidden isn't fulfilling that law.
Not a lawyer blah blah blah.
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Post by SalMasRac on May 2, 2017 22:42:52 GMT
But a pity RNG whose mechanics are hidden isn't fulfilling that law. Not a lawyer blah blah blah. Sure it is. It's ensuring no lower than a 10% Rate, so they can say it's "10% or higher" and factually prove it. It shouldn't matter that the mechanic is hidden, only that the mechanic exists. Of course they would do this for legal reasons and not out of the kindness of their hearts.
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Post by JRandall0308 on May 2, 2017 22:58:18 GMT
How would they prove it?
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Post by lennybusker on May 3, 2017 0:05:49 GMT
I expect they'd have to log pack data from everyone and then say "Out of xxx packs opened, yy rewards have been obtained."
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Post by toast on May 3, 2017 1:08:42 GMT
No game publisher bases ANY of their policies on Chinese "laws," unless that publisher happens to originate in China itself.
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Post by JRandall0308 on May 3, 2017 3:06:02 GMT
I opened some Premium and Expert packs intermingled with Supply and Basic packs. The results will shock you...
... and I'll post them tomorrow.
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Post by konfeta on May 3, 2017 3:32:31 GMT
If it turns out that that the pity timer is based on packs opened regardless of quality....
One can dream.
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Post by Bzilla024 on May 3, 2017 3:48:15 GMT
What is the probability that I max this out first?
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Post by schwarzweiss on May 3, 2017 8:19:01 GMT
No game publisher bases ANY of their policies on Chinese "laws," unless that publisher happens to originate in China itself. Don't know If MEA is available in China but if it is i don't think they can make a different UR Droprate just for one Country.
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Post by SalMasRac on May 3, 2017 8:58:02 GMT
If it turns out that that the pity timer is based on packs opened regardless of quality.... One can dream. Yesterday I tried 9 Supply Packs followed by an Expert Pack and got nothing
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Post by SentinelBorg on May 3, 2017 10:22:46 GMT
With 50 UR character cards... they are not worried. I remember Blizzard was slow to patch for QOL or real bugs but something like this would get a hot patch the day they heard about it. Hope BW doesnt do the same. Lol They put this "pity counter" in the code on purpose. Why would they now remove it? It is also nothing special, many games are doing something like this nowadays, because experiences have shown that major bad luck streaks can completely kill of spending or even playing often.
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Post by SalMasRac on May 3, 2017 10:54:48 GMT
I remember Blizzard was slow to patch for QOL or real bugs but something like this would get a hot patch the day they heard about it. Hope BW doesnt do the same. Lol They put this "pity counter" in the code on purpose. Why would they now remove it? It is also nothing special, many games are doing something like this nowadays, because experiences have shown that major bad luck streaks can completely kill of spending or even playing often. Yup how much more likely are people to spend real money on this if they KNOW there's a built-in failsafe every ten packs
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Post by Kazu on May 3, 2017 11:05:10 GMT
They put this "pity counter" in the code on purpose. Why would they now remove it? It is also nothing special, many games are doing something like this nowadays, because experiences have shown that major bad luck streaks can completely kill of spending or even playing often. Yup how much more likely are people to spend real money on this if they KNOW there's a built-in failsafe every ten packs Much more, but then why not just skip the charade and put up a random for 500k credits?
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Post by benzoright on May 3, 2017 12:30:43 GMT
Yup how much more likely are people to spend real money on this if they KNOW there's a built-in failsafe every ten packs Much more, but then why not just skip the charade and put up a random for 500k credits? I'd rather they didn't. The expert pack method nets you a lot more consumables, and gives you a shot at getting a UR for less than the full 500k.
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Post by unclemonster on May 3, 2017 16:06:45 GMT
I opened some Premium and Expert packs intermingled with Supply and Basic packs. The results will shock you... ... and I'll post them tomorrow. ...I'm ready to be shocked!
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Post by JRandall0308 on May 3, 2017 16:44:21 GMT
XBL didn't upload the clip for some reason so the shocking will have to wait for tonight / tomorrow.
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