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Post by R'Shara on Apr 30, 2017 19:22:47 GMT
I think the launch reaction was undeservedly negative, but let's see how long this thread takes to burn down... If ME3 is anything to go by, I'd say... oh, never. Come on now, I was encountering bugs every 15-20 minutes at launch. Also the facial animations fiasco. Either they ignored it or this game was tested by blind people. Did we play the same game? You know again this game reminds me So much of DA 2. In its reception and quality. Both are truly great games buried under a lot of layers of crap...just MEAs flaws are easily fixible as evidenced by plot 1.05. But Biowares two most unique and human stories get widely panned for...well a lot of things tbh...a game where they took a lot of risks and did a lot new...but don't worry if we get another game we'll get another world is ending plot where the Remnant builders turn out to be some evil super.force and we'll get Shepard 2.0 to save them. And some ridiculous final choice forced on us at the last minute. Yup. Voted with their wallets. And their mouths. Prepare for utterly crap story with nothing new, because hey, we don't seem to want the new! I love Bioware and love Mass Effect, but the criticism was well deserved. I waited 5 years for a broken game. I have literally never played anything as buggy as MEA was at launch. You need to broaden your horizons. I really like how you've completely dismissed any validity to these poster's problems. Or, you know, maybe you've been fortunate not to run into the bugs and crashes that a lot of the rest of has have encountered?
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Post by colfoley on Apr 30, 2017 19:24:58 GMT
You know again this game reminds me So much of DA 2. In its reception and quality. Both are truly great games buried under a lot of layers of crap...just MEAs flaws are easily fixible as evidenced by plot 1.05. But Biowares two most unique and human stories get widely panned for...well a lot of things tbh...a game where they took a lot of risks and did a lot new...but don't worry if we get another game we'll get another world is ending plot where the Remnant builders turn out to be some evil super.force and we'll get Shepard 2.0 to save them. And some ridiculous final choice forced on us at the last minute. This is so wrong. Dragon Age 2 actually had intriguing characters and ana amazing story. Definitely the most mature story of all the games. i liked meas story and characters more. Way more in the case of the story. DA 2 dissolved like soaked tissue paper at the end plus it's flaws were way worse to my personal tastes then Andromedas. Bad world design. Bad Combat design. And again it had poorly written characters while MEAs cast goes from awesome to serviceable.
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Post by qwib on Apr 30, 2017 19:25:02 GMT
I love Bioware and love Mass Effect, but the criticism was well deserved. I waited 5 years for a broken game. I have literally never played anything as buggy as MEA was at launch. Then let me assure you, I have played way more buggy and unplayable games and some of them are RPG Cult Classics. ME:A is a good game, with a couple of bugs. Most of you are drama queens.
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Post by colfoley on Apr 30, 2017 19:26:50 GMT
I love Bioware and love Mass Effect, but the criticism was well deserved. I waited 5 years for a broken game. I have literally never played anything as buggy as MEA was at launch. Then let me assure you, I have played way more buggy and unplayable games and some of them are RPG Cult Classics. ME:A is a good game, with a couple of bugs. Most of you are drama queens. *cough*Skyrim*cough*
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Post by cypherj on Apr 30, 2017 19:27:09 GMT
I love Bioware and love Mass Effect, but the criticism was well deserved. I waited 5 years for a broken game. I have literally never played anything as buggy as MEA was at launch. Then let me assure you, I have played way more buggy and unplayable games and some of them are RPG Cult Classics. ME:A is a good game, with a couple of bugs. Most of you are drama queens. I always like the since I didn't experience them they don't exist attitude.
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Post by R'Shara on Apr 30, 2017 19:28:24 GMT
I love Bioware and love Mass Effect, but the criticism was well deserved. I waited 5 years for a broken game. I have literally never played anything as buggy as MEA was at launch. Then let me assure you, I have played way more buggy and unplayable games and some of them are RPG Cult Classics. ME:A is a good game, with a couple of bugs. Most of you are drama queens. Yay for people dismissing valid concerns because THEY weren't affected by the bugs! Let's see. I've had about 8 missions I've had to restart due to bugs that prevent me from continuing. I've had my entire save folder deleted, and had to use a 3rd party program do a deepscan to recover ONE, which happened to be 3 hours past. I've had a dozen quests unfinishable because the final objective either never spawns, never becomes interactable, or doesn't get marked as complete. I've had the bug where no weapons or augments drop between level 61-71. I've gotten stuck about a million times. There's also the numerous people who can't enter or exit the Nexus for some strange reason (see the EA help thread. It's very extensive and weird).
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on Apr 30, 2017 19:30:34 GMT
Not counting the facial animations I really only had a couple of side quest bugs however on my second PT as a new game+ i have seen all kinds of bugs, glitches, crashes that put this game on par with Fallout New Vega's bug fest release. I could live with it if BW was better at putting out patches which they are certainly not. I heard they (or someone else) released some modding tools so if that is true then at least we can look forward to the modding community fixing a lot of things although I will believe that when I see it, BW has never been mod friendly. I would say Obsidian's New Vegas did the franchise more justice when it came to lore and story, but it's release was a complete joke. This was the last straw for me with Bethesda. I stopped preordering because once again, a AAA title company, taught me that preordering is fruitless unless you want to sift through technical jargon to fix your broken quest, your missing inventory, CTDs when you enter a new area, etc. Collector's Edition, full experience at the discounted price. Fallout 4, I waited and I have nothing awful to say about it. The modding community turned a mediocre game into a 8.5 with Unofficial patches and fixes, more lore-friendly content and Settlement scripts that complete that part of the game.
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Post by SofNascimento on Apr 30, 2017 19:30:34 GMT
I think DA2's problem are more clearly seen, or at least more easily accepted, than Andromeda's.
If you say DA2 had repetitive level design no one will question that. But if you say Andromeda quest structure is badyou can be sure someone will come and say "that's your opinion".
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Post by colfoley on Apr 30, 2017 19:30:52 GMT
Then let me assure you, I have played way more buggy and unplayable games and some of them are RPG Cult Classics. ME:A is a good game, with a couple of bugs. Most of you are drama queens. I always like the since I didn't experience them they don't exist attitude. that is not what he's saying. (This comment could be directed at R'Shara too but any differing opinions on bugs seems to trigger them)
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Post by colfoley on Apr 30, 2017 19:32:22 GMT
I think DA2's problem are more clearly seen, or at least more easily accepted, than Andromeda's. If you say DA2 had repetitive level design no one will question that. But if you say Andromeda quest structure is badyou can be sure someone will come and say "that's your opinion". both are opinions more or less.
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Post by erikson on Apr 30, 2017 19:32:37 GMT
Then let me assure you, I have played way more buggy and unplayable games and some of them are RPG Cult Classics. ME:A is a good game, with a couple of bugs. Most of you are drama queens. *cough*Skyrim*cough* My copy of SKyrim special edition for Xbox released last year is still a broken down bugged out mess of a game (even with mods). MEA on release day was 90% better than Skyrim is even now.
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Post by cypherj on Apr 30, 2017 19:32:56 GMT
I always like the since I didn't experience them they don't exist attitude. that is not what he's saying. (This comment could be directed at R'Shara too but any differing opinions on bugs seems to trigger them) He said it was a good game with a couple of bugs. However, there are plenty of people, including myself that experienced far more than a couple of bugs.
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Post by R'Shara on Apr 30, 2017 19:33:11 GMT
"A couple of bugs." "Most of you are drama queens." How would you interpret that, then? Since there are more than a couple bugs, and I am not exaggerating the ones I've had. griffonclaw up there has had even more and worse ones than me. And these are just the major ones. I haven't mentioned anything about the medium and small ones, like dialogue out of order, quests not being given, lighting issues, and so forth.
A friend of mine that plays can literally never talk to Jaal, because the game locks up every time she does.
Some people love the game. That's great. I have no problem with that. They're lucky. I wish I could play the way they did.
That being said, dismissing people who HAVE had a LOT of problems as "a couple of bugs" and "drama queens" only serves to annoy and irritate people who've had those problems.
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Post by Psychevore on Apr 30, 2017 19:35:00 GMT
I literally am doing Kadara's vault RIGHT NOW, and the purification console will not activate, despite having killed all remnant and activated all of the other consoles. You're a biotic? Don't sling em off the platform. It's a stupid bug though
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Post by R'Shara on Apr 30, 2017 19:37:25 GMT
I literally am doing Kadara's vault RIGHT NOW, and the purification console will not activate, despite having killed all remnant and activated all of the other consoles. You're a biotic? Don't sling em off the platform. It's a stupid bug though Yes I am. And yes, I ended up reloading, then using cheat engine to keep me from dying while I whacked at them with my pew pew pew gun. Then I was able to continue the bloody vault. I understand the solution. The fact that it's a problem is the stupid part.
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Post by colfoley on Apr 30, 2017 19:38:35 GMT
I don't know. I.honestly do not know why. But some people aren't having these bugs at all. I'm actually amazed by two thirds of the things you are claming is happening because it's nothing like what i (and others) have experienced. And since i have talked to game devs on it and since this whole experience only confirms what he said...i have to wonder what is causing this.
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Post by Terminator Force on Apr 30, 2017 19:40:08 GMT
Not counting the facial animations I really only had a couple of side quest bugs however on my second PT as a new game+ i have seen all kinds of bugs, glitches, crashes that put this game on par with Fallout New Vega's bug fest release. I could live with it if BW was better at putting out patches which they are certainly not. I heard they (or someone else) released some modding tools so if that is true then at least we can look forward to the modding community fixing a lot of things although I will believe that when I see it, BW has never been mod friendly. I would say Obsidian's New Vegas did the franchise more justice when it came to lore and story, but it's release was a complete joke. This was the last straw for me with Bethesda. I stopped preordering because once again, a AAA title company, taught me that preordering is fruitless unless you want to sift through technical jargon to fix your broken quest, your missing inventory, CTDs when you enter a new area, etc. Collector's Edition, full experience at the discounted price. Fallout 4, I waited and I have nothing awful to say about it. The modding community turned a mediocre game into a 8.5 with Unofficial patches and fixes, more lore-friendly content and Settlement scripts that complete that part of the game. Yeah, well, New Vegas wasn't developed by Bethesda. And Bethesda modding community wouldn't be as strong if Bethesda didn't release their modding tools to the fans.
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on Apr 30, 2017 19:40:20 GMT
I think DA2's problem are more clearly seen, or at least more easily accepted, than Andromeda's. If you say DA2 had repetitive level design no one will question that. But if you say Andromeda quest structure is badyou can be sure someone will come and say "that's your opinion". I'm one of those that knew DA2 was going to be less in scope because of how quickly it came out. The game felt dumbed-down, but not the narration or writing. Yeah, it had flaws, but it had a lot of great moments that propelled you to go back through the same freaking, recycled area... on several playthroughs. The companion quests were fun, though... I had to read up on some spoilers to avoid unnecessary bloodshed... but the narration was great. Somewhere after Act 2, when Bioware let go of the game and handed it to me, Hawke and I were on the same page. I became Hawke and now I had every intention of seeing this through. I saw it through at least four times for each class and experimenting with Ander's final fate.
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Post by R'Shara on Apr 30, 2017 19:40:53 GMT
I don't know. I.honestly do not know why. But some people aren't having these bugs at all. I'm actually amazed by two thirds of the things you are claming is happening because it's nothing like what i (and others) have experienced. And since i have talked to game devs on it and since this whole experience only confirms what he said...i have to wonder what is causing this. I wish I knew, and if they need help duplicating issues, or need save games, I'd be glad to provide. I know how annoying it can be for a dev to try and figure out a problem that they are not encountering locally. I work in quality assurance, and see this every day. We once had to go so far as to get a client to upload an image of their hard drive for us to download and use to troubleshoot. Finally found the problem as a piece of software that Dell likes to randomly install--if it's not updated or uninstalled, it causes the problem. That doesn't change the fact that it IS happening to players. And being dismissive of those problems isn't going to make the players who're encountering them any happier. Quite the opposite. It's perfectly valid to say, "Hey, I'm sorry you're having these problems. I've had smooth sailing and I love this game so it seems overexaggerated to me, but if you've had a lot of problems, I hope they get fixed for you."
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Post by erikson on Apr 30, 2017 19:40:58 GMT
I don't know. I.honestly do not know why. But some people aren't having these bugs at all. I'm actually amazed by two thirds of the things you are claming is happening because it's nothing like what i (and others) have experienced. And since i have talked to game devs on it and since this whole experience only confirms what he said...i have to wonder what is causing this. I had almost no bugs at all, only one minor quest that I coulnd't finish, and one larger one (first Architect on Eos) that got bugged, but I fixed with a previous save. I wonder if the worst bugs (I am on PS4) are on the PC.
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Post by KaiserShep on Apr 30, 2017 19:42:38 GMT
You know again this game reminds me So much of DA 2. In its reception and quality. Both are truly great games buried under a lot of layers of crap...just MEAs flaws are easily fixible as evidenced by plot 1.05. But Biowares two most unique and human stories get widely panned for...well a lot of things tbh...a game where they took a lot of risks and did a lot new...but don't worry if we get another game we'll get another world is ending plot where the Remnant builders turn out to be some evil super.force and we'll get Shepard 2.0 to save them. And some ridiculous final choice forced on us at the last minute. This is so wrong. Dragon Age 2 actually had intriguing characters and ana amazing story. Definitely the most mature story of all the games. The third act is pretty unfortunate though. I love Legacy and Mark of the Assassin so much though that they're substantial enough padding to save for last to make up for it. I admit that I didn't feel better about the actual ending until Trespasser cleared that bit up lol.
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Post by R'Shara on Apr 30, 2017 19:43:28 GMT
I don't know. I.honestly do not know why. But some people aren't having these bugs at all. I'm actually amazed by two thirds of the things you are claming is happening because it's nothing like what i (and others) have experienced. And since i have talked to game devs on it and since this whole experience only confirms what he said...i have to wonder what is causing this. I had almost no bugs at all, only one minor quest that I coulnd't finish, and one larger one (first Architect on Eos) that got bugged, but I fixed with a previous save. I wonder if the worst bugs (I am on PS4) are on the PC. My friend is on the PS4, and she's the one who can't talk to Jaal ever, because the game locks up every time she does.
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Post by themikefest on Apr 30, 2017 19:45:50 GMT
I think the launch reaction was undeservedly negative, but let's see how long this thread takes to burn down...
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Post by Serza on Apr 30, 2017 19:45:53 GMT
If ME3 is anything to go by, I'd say... oh, never. Did we play the same game? Yup. Voted with their wallets. And their mouths. Prepare for utterly crap story with nothing new, because hey, we don't seem to want the new! You need to broaden your horizons. I really like how you've completely dismissed any validity to these poster's problems. Or, you know, maybe you've been fortunate not to run into the bugs and crashes that a lot of the rest of has have encountered? Oh, I'm really hoping that's the case. Otherwise, y'all are just bitching about nothing.
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