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Post by kino on Apr 30, 2017 20:13:59 GMT
No one's saying people aren't having problems. What's being said is that there are many that aren't. I happen to be one of them. There's only two glitches I've run into, neither were game stopping or game breaking. At all.\ ADDENDUM: Damn. Someone's already said this and I realized I'm beating a dead horse. My apologies.
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Post by R'Shara on Apr 30, 2017 20:15:35 GMT
I've had the bug where no weapons or augments drop between level 61-71. So that was what was going on I thought I had imagined that I wasn't getting any drops. Is there any issues with xp gains during those levels by chance because it seemed to take me forever to get to 70 then the next thing I know I rang in level 80. I'm pretty sure the bug is universal, yeah. I don't know about the xp. It sure did seem like it took a long time for me too, but I didn't track xp gain so I can't be sure. It could just SEEM longer because we're trying to get past the bugged levels. I know I didn't get xp for any re-spawnable mobs during those levels. I'll have to see if I get xp for respawnable mobs now that I'm past it.
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Post by colfoley on Apr 30, 2017 20:16:52 GMT
i didn't get ghost Ryder. Honestly though bugs don't bother me.unless they are quest or game breaking. And only had one of those. Just curious, but what platform, and did you have an LI in that playthrough? It apparently affects F!Ryder when a companion is a love interest. i had vetra on the PS 4.
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Post by R'Shara on Apr 30, 2017 20:17:58 GMT
No one's saying people aren't having problems. What's being said is that there are many that aren't. I happen to be one of them. There's only two glitches I've run into, neither were game stopping or game breaking. At all. No one, least of all me, has ever said that there are plenty of people who are not having problems. See my reply to SofaJockey. I am saying that a lot of people ARE having a lot of problems. And those of us having problems are constantly getting dismissed by the people who aren't. Edit: Well, you saw the reply The gist being, there's no worth in point and counterpoint. But instead of calling people having lots of problems "drama queens" and claiming there are only a "couple of bugs" maybe look around and see "Hey, people are having legit problems. Why don't I offer productive ideas, instead of dismissing and insulting them? Then maybe they'll like the game better!"
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Post by dadithinkimgay on Apr 30, 2017 20:22:41 GMT
I love Bioware and love Mass Effect, but the criticism was well deserved. I waited 5 years for a broken game. I have literally never played anything as buggy as MEA was at launch. Then let me assure you, I have played way more buggy and unplayable games and some of them are RPG Cult Classics. ME:A is a good game, with a couple of bugs. Most of you are drama queens. I'm not being a drama queen, I'm being a customer who values Bioware and wants them to succeed by talking about my experiences. I'm not trying to blindly trash the game, I'm giving my opinion on a product they put out. When I say "buggy", I meant more so "unpolished." The facial animations (why doesn't f!Ryder have animations unique to HER face in cut scenes like m!Ryder does? No wonder why her mouth likes to jump halfway up her face) the editing of a handful of cinematic scenes containing bizarre cuts and consistency issues (it's as if they worked on the cinematics until the quality reached an *acceptable* standard), the fucking movie night scene. I was constantly taken out of the game due to these issues. And that is a huge issue for because I play Bioware games to escape and be immersed in their world. I still enjoyed the game.... but I'm back to playing FO4. Hopefully their future support will bring me back to do another playthrough. EDIT: Since we're pointing out bugs, I would like to point out that I attempted a second playthrough, but ran into a bug where Ryder's gun wouldn't load in the prologue. Reloading didn't work. I died multiple times trying to fight the kett without a pistol. I gave up after that lol.
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Post by kenshen19 on Apr 30, 2017 20:25:05 GMT
So that was what was going on I thought I had imagined that I wasn't getting any drops. Is there any issues with xp gains during those levels by chance because it seemed to take me forever to get to 70 then the next thing I know I rang in level 80. I'm pretty sure the bug is universal, yeah. I don't know about the xp. It sure did seem like it took a long time for me too, but I didn't track xp gain so I can't be sure. It could just SEEM longer because we're trying to get past the bugged levels. I know I didn't get xp for any re-spawnable mobs during those levels. I'll have to see if I get xp for respawnable mobs now that I'm past it. Well I am in my 90's now and I was working on some tasks on Elaaden yesterday and I was getting xp on all mobs I was killing so it is working for me. I do have a save from when I was my early 60's I will fire up after work and check that out.
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Post by R'Shara on Apr 30, 2017 20:25:10 GMT
I mean in my screenshot above, there are 3 different bugs right there. First is the lighting. I can't see crap. The whole vault is like that. Second is the stuck enemies. Third is why is my squad even trying to fire at them when I'm in holstered mode (not that you can tell since you can't even see Ryder in there)? I'm pretty sure the bug is universal, yeah. I don't know about the xp. It sure did seem like it took a long time for me too, but I didn't track xp gain so I can't be sure. It could just SEEM longer because we're trying to get past the bugged levels. I know I didn't get xp for any re-spawnable mobs during those levels. I'll have to see if I get xp for respawnable mobs now that I'm past it. Well I am in my 90's now and I was working on some tasks on Elaaden yesterday and I was getting xp on all mobs I was killing so it is working for me. I do have a save from when I was my early 60's I will fire up after work and check that out. I was taking out some trash mobs on Eos and Havarl, and I know I didn't get xp for them, even ones I hadn't ever fought before (so not a respawn).
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Post by kino on Apr 30, 2017 20:26:46 GMT
No one's saying people aren't having problems. What's being said is that there are many that aren't. I happen to be one of them. There's only two glitches I've run into, neither were game stopping or game breaking. At all. No one, least of all me, has ever said that there are plenty of people who are not having problems. See my reply to SofaJockey. I am saying that a lot of people ARE having a lot of problems. And those of us having problems are constantly getting dismissed by the people who aren't. Edit: Well, you saw the reply The gist being, there's no worth in point and counterpoint. But instead of calling people having lots of problems "drama queens" and claiming there are only a "couple of bugs" maybe look around and see "Hey, people are having legit problems. Why don't I offer productive ideas, instead of dismissing and insulting them? Then maybe they'll like the game better!" True to an extent. I'd never dismiss someone's gameplay issues, but when it's reported as a universal problem suffered by everyone I tend to, at that point, view it as a scree. When someone lists their platform and what task/quest they were doing then I can see it as a bug report...granted this isn't the right place for it, necessarily, but it doesn't hurt.
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Post by R'Shara on Apr 30, 2017 20:31:42 GMT
No one, least of all me, has ever said that there are plenty of people who are not having problems. See my reply to SofaJockey. I am saying that a lot of people ARE having a lot of problems. And those of us having problems are constantly getting dismissed by the people who aren't. Edit: Well, you saw the reply The gist being, there's no worth in point and counterpoint. But instead of calling people having lots of problems "drama queens" and claiming there are only a "couple of bugs" maybe look around and see "Hey, people are having legit problems. Why don't I offer productive ideas, instead of dismissing and insulting them? Then maybe they'll like the game better!" True to an extent. I'd never dismiss someone's gameplay issues, but when it's reported as a universal problem suffered by everyone I tend to, at that point, view it as a scree. When someone lists their platform and what task/quest they were doing then I can see it as a bug report...granted this isn't the right place for it, necessarily, but it doesn't hurt. Well no one has said most of the bugs were universal. The only one I know of that has affected everyone I've talked to is the 61-71 drop bug. Assuming someone is lying or being hysterical when saying they're having a lot of problems probably won't make that person very happy with you. fyi. And considering this is about the 5th thread I've been in that has repeated the exact same way, I don't see the point of listing out more specifics. Esp. since there'd be no point. None of us are devs working for Bioware so going into a whole lotta detail is useless. I fI were to submit bug reports, which I have, I would of course include that info. I mean, I could say I'm running a PC with Windows 10 and all the latest updates. Updated NVidia drivers and an I7. During Drack's loyalty mission, if you reload in between the exploding pipes and talking to Vorn, when you respawn, the cutscene to explode the pipes doesn't occur. You can climb/jump over them and continue, but Vorn won't be in the cargo box when you get there. You'll have to reload 2-3 times before the cutscene triggers and you can actually finish the quest. Would that actually help any body here, though?
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Post by R'Shara on Apr 30, 2017 20:34:05 GMT
Hell, even updating their confirmed issues list would be something.
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Post by colfoley on Apr 30, 2017 20:40:24 GMT
No one's saying people aren't having problems. What's being said is that there are many that aren't. I happen to be one of them. There's only two glitches I've run into, neither were game stopping or game breaking. At all. No one, least of all me, has ever said that there are plenty of people who are not having problems. See my reply to SofaJockey. I am saying that a lot of people ARE having a lot of problems. And those of us having problems are constantly getting dismissed by the people who aren't. Edit: Well, you saw the reply The gist being, there's no worth in point and counterpoint. But instead of calling people having lots of problems "drama queens" and claiming there are only a "couple of bugs" maybe look around and see "Hey, people are having legit problems. Why don't I offer productive ideas, instead of dismissing and insulting them? Then maybe they'll like the game better!" I'm not dismissing you, at least I am not trying to dismiss you. Its just that A. I am not having these problems, and B. its frustrating because in a way I guess like I feel I am being dismissed and not having these issues and not knowing what exactly is causing them...is this BioWare's fault...the individual user's hardware? Is it just the universe suddenly decided to have a bad day and roll a 1 instead of a six? And C. its dismaying because I want BioWare to succeed and make more games. To me they are still performing up to their usual high standards in terms of game making. But the more people have these kinds of issues the more likely they are to blame BioWare for it, fairly or not, and the less likely they are to buy future products, which means less likely we will get future products in the first place. For me this game is very solid despite a few minor issues, honestly this is a game where after one playthrough I do not have a single major complaint about the game, just a bunch of minor issues, and a bunch of those I feel are fixable...and now I am rambling.
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Post by R'Shara on Apr 30, 2017 20:45:02 GMT
No one, least of all me, has ever said that there are plenty of people who are not having problems. See my reply to SofaJockey. I am saying that a lot of people ARE having a lot of problems. And those of us having problems are constantly getting dismissed by the people who aren't. Edit: Well, you saw the reply The gist being, there's no worth in point and counterpoint. But instead of calling people having lots of problems "drama queens" and claiming there are only a "couple of bugs" maybe look around and see "Hey, people are having legit problems. Why don't I offer productive ideas, instead of dismissing and insulting them? Then maybe they'll like the game better!" I'm not dismissing you, at least I am not trying to dismiss you. Its just that A. I am not having these problems, and B. its frustrating because in a way I guess like I feel I am being dismissed and not having these issues and not knowing what exactly is causing them...is this BioWare's fault...the individual user's hardware? Is it just the universe suddenly decided to have a bad day and roll a 1 instead of a six? And C. its dismaying because I want BioWare to succeed and make more games. To me they are still performing up to their usual high standards in terms of game making. But the more people have these kinds of issues the more likely they are to blame BioWare for it, fairly or not, and the less likely they are to buy future products, which means less likely we will get future products in the first place. For me this game is very solid despite a few minor issues, honestly this is a game where after one playthrough I do not have a single major complaint about the game, just a bunch of minor issues, and a bunch of those I feel are fixable...and now I am rambling. As I said, I can only envy the fact that you've had so few problems. Never knowing whether I'll actually get to finish a quest or the game at any given point is NOT my preferred state of mind when playing a game! A lot of this could be fixed with more visibility from Bioware's side. Their resounding silence since 1.05 is definitely not helping matters. An updated bug list with issues they have and haven't been able to confirm would be immensely helpful. Reaching out to people who are having issues, and asking for duplication steps and save games and system specs would go really far to lessen how pissed people are about the problems they're seeing. I'm fairly certain it's not my computer, since a search on any given issue will find dozens others having the same problem. Edit: Also, at least this time, you're not the one using insults. Although you did call me triggered
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Post by kino on Apr 30, 2017 20:48:08 GMT
True to an extent. I'd never dismiss someone's gameplay issues, but when it's reported as a universal problem suffered by everyone I tend to, at that point, view it as a scree. When someone lists their platform and what task/quest they were doing then I can see it as a bug report...granted this isn't the right place for it, necessarily, but it doesn't hurt. Well no one has said most of the bugs were universal. The only one I know of that has affected everyone I've talked to is the 61-71 drop bug. Assuming someone is lying or being hysterical when saying they're having a lot of problems probably won't make that person very happy with you. fyi. And considering this is about the 5th thread I've been in that has repeated the exact same way, I don't see the point of listing out more specifics. Esp. since there'd be no point. None of us are devs working for Bioware so going into a whole lotta detail is useless. I fI were to submit bug reports, which I have, I would of course include that info. I mean, I could say I'm running a PC with Windows 10 and all the latest updates. Updated NVidia drivers and an I7. During Drack's loyalty mission, if you reload in between the exploding pipes and talking to Vorn, when you respawn, the cutscene to explode the pipes doesn't occur. You can climb/jump over them and continue, but Vorn won't be in the cargo box when you get there. You'll have to reload 2-3 times before the cutscene triggers and you can actually finish the quest. Would that actually help any body here, though? Oh, there have been a couple of posts where the statement of "everyone is having this problem" has been made. Hell, I was called a shill for saying that I hadn't run into it. So it does happen. Doesn't mean I dismiss their problem just that the amount of belief I have that it's game breaking is marginal. I, usually, do a fairly good job of keeping those thoughts to myself. I don't always succeed, but I try. And it would. Well, not to someone here, necessarily, but if a BioWare person were perusing the forum as a guest then maybe, just maybe, it's something they would take note of. Granted the EA Help site is the best place for bug reports but if you're going to post it on the forum why not do it in a way so that it's meaningful?
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Post by Serza on Apr 30, 2017 20:49:27 GMT
Yep, you're quoting those who are having issues, who are to be believed. It's also reasonable to believe those who are not. I'm probably lucky to be on Xbox (more stable?), but I recognize the frustration for those having issues. I had, in almost 200 hours of gameplay, some four freezes (that, by the way, I chalk up to my hardware, which is way below Minimal) and a single (yes, ONE) CTD. As for minor bugs, I haven't encountered anything described, and the only more serious bug I can come up with is the NG+ special items thing.
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Post by colfoley on Apr 30, 2017 20:50:46 GMT
I'm not dismissing you, at least I am not trying to dismiss you. Its just that A. I am not having these problems, and B. its frustrating because in a way I guess like I feel I am being dismissed and not having these issues and not knowing what exactly is causing them...is this BioWare's fault...the individual user's hardware? Is it just the universe suddenly decided to have a bad day and roll a 1 instead of a six? And C. its dismaying because I want BioWare to succeed and make more games. To me they are still performing up to their usual high standards in terms of game making. But the more people have these kinds of issues the more likely they are to blame BioWare for it, fairly or not, and the less likely they are to buy future products, which means less likely we will get future products in the first place. For me this game is very solid despite a few minor issues, honestly this is a game where after one playthrough I do not have a single major complaint about the game, just a bunch of minor issues, and a bunch of those I feel are fixable...and now I am rambling. As I said, I can only envy the fact that you've had so few problems. Never knowing whether I'll actually get to finish a quest or the game at any given point is NOT my preferred state of mind when playing a game! A lot of this could be fixed with more visibility from Bioware's side. Their resounding silence since 1.05 is definitely not helping matters. An updated bug list with issues they have and haven't been able to confirm would be immensely helpful. Reaching out to people who are having issues, and asking for duplication steps and save games and system specs would go really far to lessen how pissed people are about the problems they're seeing. I'm fairly certain it's not my computer, since a search on any given issue will find dozens others having the same problem. Edit: Also, at least this time, you're not the one using insults. Although you did call me triggered And that was unfair. But it did seem that way at the time. As far as visibility is concerned, I do not know how much that will help either tbh. I mean why release something or talk about it before it is ready? I mean its been what, a couple of weeks since the release of 1.05? (granted it could have been far longer, sometimes time does tend to blend for me), but the point is that 1.05 did make a lot of improvements to the game, but they were...seemingly...all the minor easy to fix 'aesthetic' problems, for future patches they will really have to dig into the guts of the game. And presumably they are working on, maybe testing DLC. *crosses fingers*...I just hope when it comes out I can have an excuse to get it.
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Post by samhain444 on Apr 30, 2017 20:53:33 GMT
I had one error...on Drack's loyalty mission...in 100 hrs. I'm playing on Xbox one so are these gamebreaking bugs on PC?
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Post by colfoley on Apr 30, 2017 20:56:00 GMT
I had one error...on Drack's loyalty mission...in 100 hrs. I'm playing on Xbox one so are these gamebreaking bugs on PC? I almost flipped and had a panic attack because of a bug on Dracks loyalty mission. Sadly only major bug I got was Ryder Family's secrets.
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Post by dm04 on Apr 30, 2017 20:56:56 GMT
Sorry but BW deserves anything they get. This is not just about some (many many many MANY gamebreaking) bugs, they can be fixed. But the rest? Remember that "pingu" jokes about the MEA mouths? We have that in DAI. Fixed? No. Returned in MEA. Facial expressions? Just as bad in DAI. Fixed? No. Returned in MEA. The whole situation? That is some serious business going on there... Jardaan powerfull enough to create planetwide teffaforming machines and even bioengineering their own species, powerfull as who knows what, forced to fleet Heleus by some enemy... that is powerfull enough to drop weapons that create the scourge? Ouch, if it were real, I would be shitting my pants now. Kett, exaltation, the Nexus mutiny... everything that could go wrong went wrong and everyone acts as if on a sunny roadtrip, that CAN NOT be fixed. No matter if I like the story and writing and characters or not. Nothing is going to fix that. And all this gameplay features, started and implemented, but nothing realy brought to and end, continuity problems, conditional problems, dialogue problems and the list goes on and on. I do not say this game deservers an 1/10, but seriously, perfect? I doubt the mental prowess of anyone who say this game is perfect. The criticism BW received for MEA? Well deserved right now. They did learn nothing from DA2, ME3 and DAI... NOTHING. They gave us the worst from this games.
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Post by decafhigh on Apr 30, 2017 20:59:01 GMT
I think the launch reaction was undeservedly negative, but let's see how long this thread takes to burn down... From the critics? I'd say not really. It has a 70 score on Metacritic, and that's fair for Andromeda. Some reviewers very nicely detailed the problems with Andromeda. The fan reaction was huge because expectations were big and Bioware/EA already carrya lot of bad press. So it became a huge joke because of its problem which cannot be overlook but also because of that. For the condition the game launched in a 70 is more than fair. I'd probably personally rate it just a little lower than that, but that's really the score a decent game with a laundry list of issues deserves. Once you start getting up into the 80/90 range you are (should) only be talking about really high quality games.
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Post by colfoley on Apr 30, 2017 21:00:50 GMT
From the critics? I'd say not really. It has a 70 score on Metacritic, and that's fair for Andromeda. Some reviewers very nicely detailed the problems with Andromeda. The fan reaction was huge because expectations were big and Bioware/EA already carrya lot of bad press. So it became a huge joke because of its problem which cannot be overlook but also because of that. For the condition the game launched in a 70 is more than fair. I'd probably personally rate it just a little lower than that, but that's really the score a decent game with a laundry list of issues deserves. Once you start getting up into the 80/90 range you are (should) only be talking about really high quality games. I'd agree with this. But again since bugs, bad side quests (though Andromeda did have good side quests), and graphics problems don't bother me its why I rate the game as highly as I do.
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Post by R'Shara on Apr 30, 2017 21:01:15 GMT
As I don't have access to bug reports, I can't say what the commonalities are. It could be xbox is more stable. I've read of widespread problems on PS4 and PC for sure, but I don't recall any for xbox. As I said, I'm glad you guys are enjoying the game the way it should be. I wish I were. Well, let's say a little bird told me that BW devs are 99.99% likely to NOT be reading these forums. Also, in one of the other threads, I did put together a list of over a dozen issues that existed in the game. Some of them were things that people saw, but didn't really care about, while others did care about them. They were still issues, either way. And I immediately got jumped on, insulted, trolled, and mocked. Not about to make that mistake again. Rate the game a 10, if that's your experience. Awesome. Nothing but envy here. I completely, 100% unequivocably disagree, but that's my problem, not yours
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Post by KaiserShep on Apr 30, 2017 21:02:41 GMT
Just curious, but what platform, and did you have an LI in that playthrough? It apparently affects F!Ryder when a companion is a love interest. i had vetra on the PS 4. Hmmm, curious. I had Suvi on PS4 and it seems to be persistent. No matter how many times I reload it will repeat. Same for the memories. Here's another fun bug: name reset. I haven't been able to find a thread anywhere about this specific bug, but my current Ryder now shows up as "DefaultProfile", but I was using the default name. The downside now is that NPC's now address Ryder as if I used a custom first name. The entire playthrough seems to be affected, so even if I reloaded the prologue from that character, it's the same.
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Post by colfoley on Apr 30, 2017 21:03:22 GMT
Hmmm, curious. I had Suvi on PS4 and it seems to be persistent. No matter how many times I reload it will repeat. Same for the memories. Here's another fun bug: name reset. I haven't been able to find a thread anywhere about this specific bug, but my current Ryder now shows up as "DefaultProfile", but I was using the default name. The downside now is that NPC's now address Ryder as if I used a custom first name. Well, shit.
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Post by griffith82 on Apr 30, 2017 21:05:22 GMT
No they weren't. Games always have bugs and it's not true that they were ignored. A day one patch was released and most issues fixed within days. Might want to recheck what ignore means. It's very naive to believe the technical faults, animation issues, broken side quests and general bugs were not well known by the time of release. They were most certainly not fixed within days and I'm still encountering buggy sidequests and cutscene glitches. There have been mends to some of the most widely mocked issues but this game still needs more patches. I'm not saying there aren't or even weren't bugs. I'm beginning to think people just don't understand how complex game making is. I'm not saying there aren't situations when the ammount of bugs and glitches is inexcusable. The PC version of GTA IV for example. The fact of the matter is the more advanced games get the more bugs will occur. QA testing can only reveal so much and the bugs that are random are harder still. Unless the game is literally in an unplayable state it is easier to release and then hot fix it. People these days should be great full that is even possible instead of having to buy a fixed game. These issues were and are being fixed and it's not the end of the world.
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Post by cypherj on Apr 30, 2017 21:05:44 GMT
From the critics? I'd say not really. It has a 70 score on Metacritic, and that's fair for Andromeda. Some reviewers very nicely detailed the problems with Andromeda. The fan reaction was huge because expectations were big and Bioware/EA already carrya lot of bad press. So it became a huge joke because of its problem which cannot be overlook but also because of that. For the condition the game launched in a 70 is more than fair. I'd probably personally rate it just a little lower than that, but that's really the score a decent game with a laundry list of issues deserves. Once you start getting up into the 80/90 range you are (should) only be talking about really high quality games. When the game came out I had it as low as a five, it was literally unplayable. I was getting attacked constantly by enemies stuck in walls and stones, I would try and use Biotics and fall through t the floor into nothingness, enemies were floating in the air all stacked on top of each other. It would look like one enemy but it would be five. I hadn't seen anything that bad since Arkham City, and that game got recalled on PC.
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