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Post by dropzofcrimzon on May 1, 2017 1:43:57 GMT
So, thanks to the Remnant research weapons the Tempest COULD be weaponized in MEA2 (the hint is in the R&D paragraph of the PAW or the Inferno sniper rifle).
Question is will the tree hugging "we come in peace" mentality of MEA bleed into the sequel as well thus providing us with some BS excuse as per why it cannot be done (oh look, our ship was designed to be a pussy vessel, if we fire a weapon it might blow all our windows with it's kickback....wait....we have energy weapons that have no kickback? Oh...uhm...yeah no the radiations coming from it might damage our sensors or some shit...)
I am so sick of getting around in a weaponless ship...let alone a weaponless rover.
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Post by zipzap2000 on May 1, 2017 2:19:45 GMT
The tempest would need a complete rebuild.
It has no armour plating and the recoil from a main gun would blow out all its windows (Structural weakness) according to Cora and Kallo tells you its only defenses are stealth mode and a kinetic barrier.
Its not fit for a fight even if you put a guns on it.
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Post by garrusfan1 on May 1, 2017 2:37:49 GMT
Yeah that's true they could. Though I doubt they will.
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Post by FeralEwok on May 1, 2017 2:40:23 GMT
oh look, our ship was designed to be a pussy vessel... If anything the Tempest is much more phallic in design.
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Post by erikson on May 1, 2017 3:01:06 GMT
It's the Peace Corps in Space
The Initiative's Official Song
if you're wondering...no...I don't care that it doesn't have guns...although it could use a supply of photon torpedos.
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Post by Element Zero on May 1, 2017 4:16:02 GMT
I'm sure we'll see some warships in the next game. Even if the timeframe between games is ridiculously short, they'll have managed to build some warships (because writing). They've made their peaceful contact with the natives, and joined an ongoing war with invaders. The need for a peaceful, non-threatening arrival is in the past.
I'm not sure what they'll do with Tempest, but I'd not be surprised if she got weapons. They added a thanix cannon, special shielding and new hull plating to the SR2, and we didn't worry about the technical issues involved. They don't have to justify to me how Tempest supports a gun. I like my sci-fi, but ME has never been that game that goes into realistic detail.
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on May 1, 2017 10:20:12 GMT
It's the Peace Corps in Space The Initiative's Official Song if you're wondering...no...I don't care that it doesn't have guns...although it could use a supply of photon torpedos. look up the Italian version too....
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on May 1, 2017 10:21:52 GMT
The tempest would need a complete rebuild. It has no armour plating and the recoil from a main gun would blow out all its windows (Structural weakness) according to Cora and Kallo tells you its only defenses are stealth mode and a kinetic barrier. Its not fit for a fight even if you put a guns on it. energy weapon....no kickback
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Post by Ahriman on May 1, 2017 10:36:24 GMT
The tempest would need a complete rebuild. It has no armour plating and the recoil from a main gun would blow out all its windows (Structural weakness) according to Cora and Kallo tells you its only defenses are stealth mode and a kinetic barrier. Its not fit for a fight even if you put a guns on it. energy weapon....no kickback Eh, PAW is particle rifle, not laser one. You can even witness it's recoil first hand.
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on May 1, 2017 11:25:30 GMT
energy weapon....no kickback Eh, PAW is particle rifle, not laser one. You can even witness it's recoil first hand. wanna compare that to the crusader's recoil?
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Post by Ahriman on May 1, 2017 11:31:43 GMT
Eh, PAW is particle rifle, not laser one. You can even witness it's recoil first hand. wanna compare that to the crusader's recoil? So "less recoil" is "no recoil" then?
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on May 1, 2017 13:16:39 GMT
wanna compare that to the crusader's recoil? So "less recoil" is "no recoil" then? the recoil is there as a gameplay mechanic...with that kinda weapon there should be none...THAT SAID...even with that kind of recoil compared to that of a Mass Effect weapon I'd say I doubt the ship would not be able to bear it Of course...tree hugger dev mentality trumps logic
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Post by feuerrabe on May 1, 2017 14:12:54 GMT
So "less recoil" is "no recoil" then? the recoil is there as a gameplay mechanic...with that kinda weapon there should be none...THAT SAID...even with that kind of recoil compared to that of a Mass Effect weapon I'd say I doubt the ship would not be able to bear it Of course...tree hugger dev mentality trumps logic Soldier! What is Newton's third law of motion? Actio est reactio.
Well technically he wrote: Lex III: Actioni contrariam semper et æqualem esse reactionem: sive corporum duorum actiones in se mutuo semper esse æquales et in partes contrarias dirigi.
Unlike a laser a plasma ball is still a body with a mass. You're accellerating a plasma ball with a certain force and the weapon gets accellerated backwards with the same force.
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Post by wright1978 on May 1, 2017 15:12:46 GMT
Hopefully the tempest will get destroyed between mea1 & 2.
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Post by riotinducer on May 1, 2017 16:30:53 GMT
Even if we don't get a dedicated gun built into the Tempest I'm sure it wouldn't be hard to slap some javelin torpedo mounts onto the outside of it.
As far as going into MEA2 I'm wondering if they might retrofit the remaining arks into warships once all the colonists are woken up and moved out. After all they're still dreadnought sized ships with very powerful engines and have proven to be very durable even without military grade armor.
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Post by Ahriman on May 1, 2017 17:07:50 GMT
As far as going into MEA2 I'm wondering if they might retrofit the remaining arks into warships once all the colonists are woken up and moved out. After all they're still dreadnought sized ships with very powerful engines and have proven to be very durable even without military grade armor. You can't turn them into full-fledged dreadnoughts though, because they are built around giant ME cannons, but they can be turned into carriers easily, with hangars and low-scale defense armament. Yet that would be logical thing to do, we don't like such people in Andromeda, in the end I expect them to be used for colony construction, because it's the best use for such ships.
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Post by SofNascimento on May 1, 2017 17:09:41 GMT
There was nothing stopping the Tempest from having guns like missiles and PDCs, or even Guardian Lasers.
Of course, you can't enjoy Andromeda if you don't learn to just go with stuff and don't think much about logic and reason.
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on May 1, 2017 18:34:59 GMT
the recoil is there as a gameplay mechanic...with that kinda weapon there should be none...THAT SAID...even with that kind of recoil compared to that of a Mass Effect weapon I'd say I doubt the ship would not be able to bear it Of course...tree hugger dev mentality trumps logic Soldier! What is Newton's third law of motion? Actio est reactio.
Well technically he wrote: Lex III: Actioni contrariam semper et æqualem esse reactionem: sive corporum duorum actiones in se mutuo semper esse æquales et in partes contrarias dirigi.
Unlike a laser a plasma ball is still a body with a mass. You're accellerating a plasma ball with a certain force and the weapon gets accellerated backwards with the same force. uhm....correct.me if I am wrong but Rem tech is not plasma at all... en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Particle-beam_weapon
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Post by NUM13ER on May 1, 2017 19:15:17 GMT
Why bother having guns on your Arks or Pathfinder ships to defend them against any possible hostile threats, I mean whens that ever going to be useful at any point? Take your narrow minded Milky Way warmongering elsewhere.
What we need is to prioritise great views via large targets windows that only the most backward savages could dismiss as structural weaknesses. Views that could easily be obtained via cameras mounted outside transmitting to screens within, leaving the ships hull more stronger overall, but that just wouldn't look as cool. It needs to be authentic.
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Post by ArabianIGoggles on May 1, 2017 19:20:52 GMT
Even if we don't get a dedicated gun built into the Tempest I'm sure it wouldn't be hard to slap some javelin torpedo mounts onto the outside of it. As far as going into MEA2 I'm wondering if they might retrofit the remaining arks into warships once all the colonists are woken up and moved out. After all they're still dreadnought sized ships with very powerful engines and have proven to be very durable even without military grade armor. An Ark with thannix cannons all over it.. my god. I'm sure we'll have some form of angarian warships in the sequel.
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on May 1, 2017 19:41:05 GMT
Why bother having guns on your Arks or Pathfinder ships to defend them against any possible hostile threats, I mean whens that ever going to be useful at any point? Take your narrow minded Milky Way warmongering elsewhere. What we need is to prioritise great views via large targets windows that only the most backward savages could dismiss as structural weaknesses. Views that could easily be obtained via cameras mounted outside transmitting to screens within, leaving the ships hull more stronger overall, but that just wouldn't look as cool. It needs to be authentic. point is...someone at Bioware thought that was OK.....I'd LOVE to hear them argue their point.
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Post by NUM13ER on May 1, 2017 19:44:03 GMT
Why bother having guns on your Arks or Pathfinder ships to defend them against any possible hostile threats, I mean whens that ever going to be useful at any point? Take your narrow minded Milky Way warmongering elsewhere. What we need is to prioritise great views via large targets windows that only the most backward savages could dismiss as structural weaknesses. Views that could easily be obtained via cameras mounted outside transmitting to screens within, leaving the ships hull more stronger overall, but that just wouldn't look as cool. It needs to be authentic. point is...someone at Bioware thought that was OK.....I'd LOVE to hear them argue their point. To be fair they'd be there a long time trying to defend a lot of the creative decisions made for this game.
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Post by Ahriman on May 1, 2017 19:49:25 GMT
Why bother having guns on your Arks or Pathfinder ships to defend them against any possible hostile threats, I mean whens that ever going to be useful at any point? Take your narrow minded Milky Way warmongering elsewhere. What we need is to prioritise great views via large targets windows that only the most backward savages could dismiss as structural weaknesses. Views that could easily be obtained via cameras mounted outside transmitting to screens within, leaving the ships hull more stronger overall, but that just wouldn't look as cool. It needs to be authentic. point is...someone at Bioware thought that was OK.....I'd LOVE to hear them argue their point. Well, they kinda did already
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on May 1, 2017 19:52:46 GMT
point is...someone at Bioware thought that was OK.....I'd LOVE to hear them argue their point. Well, they kinda did already I said argue,not dismiss with one statement with the other guy not arguing back BTW they left the arks defenseless too, going in a new galaxy does not mean that there will not be hostile races. The AI comes from a galaxy where turians SHOT AT HUMANS NO QUESTIONS ASKED just because they saw them working on a fucking relay. And you want no weapons on your fucking ships? And guess what? EVERY ARK that was attacked by the Kett turned into a sitting duck because, lo and fucking behold they had no way of defending themselves while carrying TENS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE INCLUDING CHILDREN....yes, argue "we come in peace tree hugging ideas" with the Asari who saw their children taken and killed by the Kett on their ark. Oh oh....and the NOMAD! Who was the genius who sat at a table and said "hey, we come from a galaxy that has giant space worms who can eat a reaper destroyer not to mention all manner of insanely dangerous kill world fauna and mechs the size of mini busses but FUCK....you know what we need? We need a rover to explore hostile uncharted worlds and we need it with no guns, because the best way to defend ourselves from a threat is to fucking run away!!!!"
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Post by FeralEwok on May 1, 2017 22:50:29 GMT
Someone needs a Snickers
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