Felicia Day tackles the ME:A Character Creator...

May 5, 2017 17:58:06 GMT @illianaunknown said:

May 5, 2017 5:45:09 GMT Kabraxal said:

How are people struggling to create attractive characters? Created 2, one of who looks like Ash. Did not plan that and the voice mismatch throws me still.

Because there is absolutely zero ability to change features on the faces other than size and up/down for the most part, every character looks like every other character to varying degrees. If you look at the ryders people have shared on the share my ryder reddit, you notice right away that you can tell which preset head they are if you know the heads. And you begin to notice very similar ones emerging. Not really a huge issue except one you have used DAI CC this feels like a walk into the dark ages. And some people like to feel that their ryder is unique I guess too.

For me, the DA:I CC had the opposite problem. It had tons of options, but creating a character I liked was impossible. While the presets remain essentially recognizable in Andromeda, they have more uniqueness of features to chose from between the 9 heads, than the starting points in Inquisition for each race. There, the diversity was more that of one of the 4 races you played, than the diversity in how humans looked. Well, imo.

That said, if it pleases people, and if it is technically feasible, I am all for swapping eyes, noses and mouths between heads. So long as we keep the diversity of eyeshapes and it does not destroy the eye-eyelid-brow portion of the face. That would be my biggest concern. I think mouth and nose will be easier to interchange.

We are obviously keeping the hair, but the eyes also got a nice  upgrade in quality since Inquisition, and losing it would be very sad.

May 5, 2017 18:29:57 GMT @illianaunknown said:

May 5, 2017 18:19:02 GMT @carefull said:

For me, the DA:I CC had the opposite problem. It had tons of options, but creating a character I liked was impossible. While the presets remain essentially recognizable in Andromeda, they have more uniqueness of features to chose from between the 9 heads, than the starting points in Inquisition for each race. There, the diversity was more that of one of the 4 races you played, than the diversity in how humans looked. Well, imo.

That said, if it pleases people, and if it is technically feasible, I am all for swapping eyes, noses and mouths between heads. So long as we keep the diversity of eyeshapes and it does not destroy the eye-eyelid-brow portion of the face. That would be my biggest concern. I think mouth and nose will be easier to interchange.

We are obviously keeping the hair, but the eyes also got a nice  upgrade in quality since Inquisition, and losing it would be very sad.

Preach it. I had so much of a challenge with DAI that I ended up making very similar characters until I found codes for ones I loved. But I loved the variety we found in the ones out there. And I loved that I could keep trying to make them different with so much flexibility.

I really would love it if these games made a CC that linked into the game but was separate (had an import feature) and would give you a little cutscene where you could see how your character animates then go back into the CC and adjust it again. I think that would be a fantastic feature for any game that gives a CC. And the first company that actually did something like that would probably be hailed as awesome for doing it.

I think they started on the right path here but we still need more variety within the CC. Like changing features.

Well, I don't want to preach anything, I am just noting what I see, and that's significant improvements in texturing and capture of diversity of humans as the starting points of the presets.

I am trying to recall which MMO did it, but one of them DID have the CC as a stand alone. A lot of them do let you change backgrounds and light during creation (iirc Inqui does that as well).

At the very least, a Black Emporium feature would have been a blast to have in Ryder's room.

I am less concerned with how my Ryder stacks against the other Ryders, I am more along the lines of looking at the faces for a while, and seeing my Ryder in one, and going for it to get that character that fits my run. I gamegasmed over my first Ryder all PT1, and when I finally was able to correct a flaw on my second through a little trick, I was over the moon.

For me, my first MEA Ryder was finally the dream character I could not make in a game after game after game. Including Inquisition. And it was so easy...

I wish other folks were as happy as I am with their chars

May 5, 2017 19:48:58 GMT decafhigh said:

May 5, 2017 17:30:24 GMT KaiserShep said:

As one who suffered through Inquisition's options, I'll take what I can get. This is certainly nothing to write home (or the Milky Way) about, but honestly, it's still at least an improvement overall (in terms of hair at least). I think what's sorely missing are various types of braided hair other than the damn corn rows and other various tied-up styles. 

That's like saying a cowpie platter is a big improvement over the turd sandwich.

Not sure why this is either, it certainly isn't just a BW problem.  I guess game developers are used to just giving their big bad dudebro video game hero's buzzcuts and have no idea how to make good looking hair.

fine hair texturing and realistic hair movement, coloring and light/shading plus avoiding the clipping with multiple outfits while the character is animated to move is a very expensive and resource intensive nightmare for game design. That's why long hair so far sucks.

EDIT: Black Desert On-line has good hair, but I did not play, so how well it interact with the doll and the outfits, I dunno.