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Post by correctamundo on May 5, 2017 18:38:38 GMT
And HZD dropped from 2 to 13 and it being playstation exclusive must mean it is a huge flop then? So HZD sold better than MEA in both march and april? That game was released in February. MEA is really in bad shape. Did you miss the fact that MEA isn't Playstation exclusive? Me thinks perhaps you did.
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Post by suikoden on May 5, 2017 18:41:52 GMT
So HZD sold better than MEA in both march and april? That game was released in February. MEA is really in bad shape. Did you miss the fact that MEA isn't Playstation exclusive? Me thinks perhaps you did. Lol I don't think you get it. HZD is outselling MEA despite only being on PS4. That's a bad thing for MEA, which is on PS, PC and Xbox.
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Post by bezul on May 5, 2017 18:44:49 GMT
From the creators of ''consoles are dead'' arrives ''MEA is a flop''.
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Post by Sanunes on May 5, 2017 18:51:52 GMT
EA has not given any concrete sales numbers yet. But they're a publicly traded company that'll have it's quarterly earnings report next week, so more numbers will likely be available soon. Well, it'd be nice to get something more solid for perspective. For now it's just a silly echo chamber. EA doesn't give numbers and they haven't for years, I would expect something along these lines if they have anything to boast about. Source
My guess is they are trying to prevent people from over analyzing any information and trying to prove their point of view based on the numbers they provide by trying to put a spin on the numbers.
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Post by SofNascimento on May 5, 2017 18:52:42 GMT
So HZD sold better than MEA in both march and april? That game was released in February. MEA is really in bad shape. Did you miss the fact that MEA isn't Playstation exclusive? Me thinks perhaps you did. So?
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Post by correctamundo on May 5, 2017 18:53:18 GMT
Did you miss the fact that MEA isn't Playstation exclusive? Me thinks perhaps you did. Lol I don't think you get it. HZD is outselling MEA despite only being on PS4. That's a bad thing for MEA, which is on PS, PC and Xbox. No it doesn't. You really should try out the whole fact check and think part before you post. www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1362489
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Post by cypherj on May 5, 2017 18:54:57 GMT
Details will come out next week. EA is going to go over its earnings on the 9th. They expected to get three million and sales in the first few days, which would be between 30-50% of lifetime sales. So they were expecting to sell between six and ten million copies. I thought the expectations were too high before the game even came out. After playing it and seeing the reception it got, I doubt it will hit these numbers.
It still won't be a financial failure for EA by any means though.
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Post by Sanunes on May 5, 2017 18:57:22 GMT
Details will come out next week. EA is going to go over its earnings on the 9th. They expected to get three million and sales in the first few days, which would be between 30-50% of lifetime sales. So they were expecting to sell between six and ten million copies. I thought the expectations were too high before the game even came out. After playing it and seeing the reception it got, I doubt it will hit these numbers. It still won't be a financial failure for EA by any means though. To be honest, I doubted the game would those numbers even if there wasn't the negativity around it. BioWare games don't sell really big like that.
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Post by suikoden on May 5, 2017 18:58:58 GMT
Lol I don't think you get it. HZD is outselling MEA despite only being on PS4. That's a bad thing for MEA, which is on PS, PC and Xbox. No it doesn't. You really should try out the whole fact check and think part before you post. www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1362489In the context of this thread, OPs article shows MEA dropping below Horizon for April. You posted results for March. From a forum. Good sleuthing and comprehension! Lol. Failamundo!
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Post by cypherj on May 5, 2017 19:03:38 GMT
Details will come out next week. EA is going to go over its earnings on the 9th. They expected to get three million and sales in the first few days, which would be between 30-50% of lifetime sales. So they were expecting to sell between six and ten million copies. I thought the expectations were too high before the game even came out. After playing it and seeing the reception it got, I doubt it will hit these numbers. It still won't be a financial failure for EA by any means though. To be honest, I doubted the game would those numbers even if there wasn't the negativity around it. BioWare games don't sell really big like that. That's what I said. However, ME3 sold 3 million in the first month, and six million overall. So if nothing is said about ME:A having the best launch or being the top selling ME game ever, then that pretty much says it didn't meet their expectations.
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Post by correctamundo on May 5, 2017 19:04:54 GMT
In the context of this thread, OPs article shows MEA dropping below Horizon for April. You posted results for March. From a forum. Good sleuthing and comprehension! Lol. Failamundo! Well I did force you to sort of add 1 and 1 together to "get it". It seems I thought too highly of you.
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Post by dmc1001 on May 5, 2017 19:05:09 GMT
So, I already bought it and don't want a refund. What's the point of this thread?
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on May 5, 2017 19:08:06 GMT
In the end, the numbers you and I see are meaningless. The Volus money-handlers at EA are going to look at the numbers and then adjust their upcoming expectations. EA made their money, because they already had bet low using a modest budget and finding ways to cut corners. Bioware is at fault, too. That absolute, f***ing fail of a release and the run-up to it, proves that EA didn't give a f*** about the product because certain goals were met, otherwise, EA would've stalled the delay. Horizon Zero Dawn dropped a lot of places as well and the perception there is that the game was an outstanding success. EA is a private company. They will lie to your face because they can get away with it. However, is the public exceedingly tired of EA? You bet with some hate now placed firmly on Bioware's shoulders with entire gaming communities advocating for a boycott. To those that are in denial, well... keep trying to stay under the radar because once you're on someone's radar, you're toast. Capiche?
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Post by suikoden on May 5, 2017 19:08:50 GMT
So, I already bought it and don't want a refund. What's the point of this thread? Didn't realise every post had to relate to you personally! The internet has a "scroll" function - maybe you'd like to use it to scroll down to a different post that interests you?
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Post by bakgrind on May 5, 2017 19:09:45 GMT
We'll never know EA's origin numbers... But every other metric published so far hints at disappointing sales as far as physical and digital sales on Xbox and PS4 are concerned. That and the game was 30% off less than a week after release... Up until last week, every retailer I saw still had physical copies at full price a month after release. Now, Gamestop, bestbuy, amazon, etc have just the physical copies at $20 off for a set period time. Doesn't really jibe with the "they're desperate" narrative. Mass Effect 3 price dropped within a 30 day of release as well. Nothing really new or desperate about that . And I dare say the fan response to that game was lot harsher. Recent numbers for Mass Effect 3 showed " During March 2012, Mass Effect 3 sold over 3.5 million copies. According to EA's Q4 results, Mass Effect 3 has grossed over $200 million. The game had sold over 6 million copies by January 2017. " Personally I would of thought it sold more ,but there you go. It will be interesting to see how ME:A does in sales over the same time period. Souce for numbers ME 3 Wiki
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Post by suikoden on May 5, 2017 19:13:06 GMT
Up until last week, every retailer I saw still had physical copies at full price a month after release. Now, Gamestop, bestbuy, amazon, etc have just the physical copies at $20 off for a set period time. Doesn't really jibe with the "they're desperate" narrative. Mass Effect 3 price dropped within a 30 day of release as well. Nothing really new or desperate about that . And I dare say the fan response to that game was lot harsher. Recent numbers for Mass Effect 3 showed " During March 2012, Mass Effect 3 sold over 3.5 million copies. According to EA's Q4 results, Mass Effect 3 has grossed over $200 million. The game had sold over 6 million copies by January 2017. " Personally I would of thought it sold more ,but there you go. It will be interesting to see how ME:A does in sales over the same time period. Souce for numbers ME 3 WikiSales 30 days after release is different from sales 3 days after release.
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Post by dmc1001 on May 5, 2017 19:16:27 GMT
So, I already bought it and don't want a refund. What's the point of this thread? Didn't realise every post had to relate to you personally! The internet has a "scroll" function - maybe you'd like to use it to scroll down to a different post that interests you? I'm just not seeing the point of this thread. Buy it or don't buy it but why waste people's time "proving" how it's a failure? People either like it or they don't and if they're on this forum they probably already know which camp they're in.
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on May 5, 2017 19:33:11 GMT
Didn't realise every post had to relate to you personally! The internet has a "scroll" function - maybe you'd like to use it to scroll down to a different post that interests you? I'm just not seeing the point of this thread. Buy it or don't buy it but why waste people's time "proving" how it's a failure? People either like it or they don't and if they're on this forum they probably already know which camp they're in. I don't like it, but it does give you more information about the business surrounding our favorite franchise. It's not accurate though on any level since much of the data is either missing or not included. I wouldn't put it past EA to distribute their spreadsheets only to investers via private server. They don't have to disclose anything because the way they're structured.
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Post by correctamundo on May 5, 2017 19:40:03 GMT
I'm just not seeing the point of this thread. Buy it or don't buy it but why waste people's time "proving" how it's a failure? People either like it or they don't and if they're on this forum they probably already know which camp they're in. I don't like it, but it does give you more information about the business surrounding our favorite franchise. It's not accurate though on any level since much of the data is either missing or not included. I wouldn't put it past EA to distribute their spreadsheets only to investers via private server. They don't have to disclose anything because the way they're structured. No doubt about that. They will make some kind of public statement and some will try to spin it but unless EA changes their policy we will be left sort of in the dark.
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on May 5, 2017 19:47:22 GMT
I don't like it, but it does give you more information about the business surrounding our favorite franchise. It's not accurate though on any level since much of the data is either missing or not included. I wouldn't put it past EA to distribute their spreadsheets only to investers via private server. They don't have to disclose anything because the way they're structured. No doubt about that. They will make some kind of public statement and some will try to spin it but unless EA changes their policy we will be left sort of in the dark. Dragon Age 4 will be designed just enough to succeed. It's the way EA and their abysmal investment group manage the portfolio. They're going to save every penny possible and whatever comes out is going to be enough for profitabliity. This doesn't include product viablity. That's Bioware's problem and f*** them if they can't deliver. It's just a commodity to EA. EA, Enthusiasm Annihilated.
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Post by ShadowAngel on May 5, 2017 20:16:03 GMT
No doubt about that. They will make some kind of public statement and some will try to spin it but unless EA changes their policy we will be left sort of in the dark. Dragon Age 4 will be designed just enough to succeed. It's the way EA and their abysmal investment group manage the portfolio. They're going to save every penny possible and whatever comes out is going to be enough for profitabliity. This doesn't include product viablity. That's Bioware's problem and f*** them if they can't deliver. It's just a commodity to EA. EA, Enthusiasm Annihilated. I feel the DA franchise is treated with much more respect than ME. Inquisition is their most successful game in the first week of launch, had various GoTY awards, and had pretty good reviews overall. It was much better than DA:II if you ask me and while it doesn't do what origins did so well it does well in moving the franchise in a new direction considering that franchise really never has been consistent game from game. Maybe it's just my love for the game, but I still feel EA/bioware take more care of it, especially since their more experienced team is the one working with that franchise while ME got the rookie team. I actually favor the DA franchise more than ME now because of it's success and it being treated well.
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Post by vonuber on May 5, 2017 20:44:52 GMT
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Post by erikson on May 5, 2017 20:57:12 GMT
So, I already bought it and don't want a refund. What's the point of this thread? The point is that the game is bad and you should feel ashamed for liking it. Take your medecine like a good dissobedient child.
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Post by samhain444 on May 5, 2017 21:02:37 GMT
Dragon Age 4 will be designed just enough to succeed. It's the way EA and their abysmal investment group manage the portfolio. They're going to save every penny possible and whatever comes out is going to be enough for profitabliity. This doesn't include product viablity. That's Bioware's problem and f*** them if they can't deliver. It's just a commodity to EA. EA, Enthusiasm Annihilated. I feel the DA franchise is treated with much more respect than ME. Inquisition is their most successful game in the first week of launch, had various GoTY awards, and had pretty good reviews overall. It was much better than DA:II if you ask me and while it doesn't do what origins did so well it does well in moving the franchise in a new direction considering that franchise really never has been consistent game from game. Maybe it's just my love for the game, but I still feel EA/bioware take more care of it, especially since their more experienced team is the one working with that franchise while ME got the rookie team. I actually favor the DA franchise more than ME now because of it's success and it being treated well. After Dragon Age II was released 03/2011, the franchise hit an all-time low in terms of popularity and Mass Effect, riding high after the success of ME2, was considered the "class" of BioWare's franchise line-ups. Now, I really enjoyed the game, and have played multiple playthroughs, but the weaknesses were obvious in terms of re-used environments, spawning enemies, and a story that essentially crumbled in the third act. Even with its issues, BioWare still released two solid DLC's and initially committed to an "Exalted March" expansion in an attempt to expand of the Mage Vs Templar narrative. However, due the overall reception, the "Exalted March" expansion was cancelled and it was announced that efforts would be put into creating a new game instead. At this point, EA had every possibility to kill the franchise as the brand's momentum was pretty much stalled at that point. They had yet another opportunity to kill it when it was announced in 2013 that the game would be delayed a full year to add the different playable races to the game but they backed it as well. What resulted from this patience was BioWare's best selling release to date. You'd have to think that with the amount of money made by the Mass Effect franchise prior to the release of ME:A that, despite whatever sales projections they reach or not at this point, they would re-dedicate to the franchise like they did with Dragon Age. Its clear they needed more time to tighten the technical aspects of the game and hopefuly are given that opportunity with MEA 2 so that it doesn't get off on the wrong foot like ME:A because there is a lot to like about the game.
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Post by setokaiba on May 5, 2017 21:09:54 GMT
No surprise. MEA is a flop when it comes to sales. And critics. And most fans. And HZD dropped from 2 to 13 and it being playstation exclusive must mean it is a huge flop then? Well HZD is a PS4 exclusive and a new IP and MEA is AAA multiplat from a well know and loved series. I love MEA(it's probably my fav ME game) but can't really compare to HZD in terms of sells. MEA should be killing it in sells but instead it's been on 30% off on PSN for a week or so now. This isn't selling well no matter how much I personally like it.
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