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Post by Lebanese Dude on Mar 17, 2017 13:59:46 GMT
I have negative bias now, no way to avoid it if you read these forums or any other social media. But I will not exagerate anything, I will make my own opinion. If anything, since I now expect something really bad, I could be easily impressed and end up liking it. It's much better this way than walking in expecting the best game ever and being dissapointed and walking out with a bad impression. That's one way to look at it, but it's easier said than done. I think it's better to walk in not expecting anything.
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Mar 17, 2017 13:58:07 GMT
No here is what matters : omg
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Mar 17, 2017 13:45:39 GMT
I am slightly confused. At first, you say the game indeed has flaws and the devs should be held accountable ...and then you ask people to ignore the flaws (?). To be fair ,every criticism I have seen so far is reasonable. I haven't seen any over the top hatred. Just normal concerns based on what players have experienced these past few days I'm not telling people to ignore flaws. In fact that very line I said encouraged people to express themselves. I'm just pointing out how relatively easy it is to move past these flaws and enjoy the game as a whole if people allow themselves to do so. That point was lost on people, because they just want to be victims, as always.
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Mar 17, 2017 13:41:20 GMT
Your style is aggressive, and gets attention, I will give you that. This is the definition of a troll post. If anyone on these forums wasn't sure, take a good look at the title and the OP. Hating the game is one thing. You hate people who hate the game. That is a personal problem. Hate the PEOPLE? I see. You can't separate people from their opinions, so you think that criticizing the formation of those opinions is an attack on the people themselves. Ah that's just funny. I don't feel anything towards anyone. What I hate is hyperbole disguised as opinion. You're right though. I should have said "It's not them, it's your opinion".
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Mar 17, 2017 13:38:55 GMT
Reread the post and tell me where it criticized people for having negative opinions. The entire post is dedicated to the context behind those opinions, not the fact that these opinions exist. Your post can be summed up with: If you dislike something about ME:A it's your fault, you must be doing something wrong.
My response to that can be summed up with: Bullshit.
No it can't be summed up like that. It's "if you dislike something, it's not necessarily BioWare's fault and you can do something to improve your enjoyment which is ALL THAT MATTERS in a game" For example, do you really think it's bullshit to tell someone who dislikes exploration to stop being a completionist? It takes a certain kind of bullheadedness to disagree I think. If you don't enjoy something then don't do it.
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Mar 17, 2017 13:35:17 GMT
...and the writing, and the plot. Sorry, but people aren't as stupid... Subjective subjective subjective. Writing is fine to me. I appreciated how dialogue choices cascaded and were referenced down the line. I liked how the narrative changed depending on whether I completed certain events. I enjoyed how fast-paced it was as I could feel the excitement and adrenaline. I have yet to form an opinion on the main story as I know little. I disliked what Alec did because it seemed to contradict what he said earlier. Perhaps something down the line? Net: Positive
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Mar 17, 2017 13:31:35 GMT
I can't really respond on the quality of the game itself, I'm yet to play it, all I've seen so far is only the released footage, which seems of a somewhat questionable quality.
What I do know, is that that many tireless bioware defenders seem to take offense to the mere existence of negative opinions.
Reread the post and tell me where it criticized people for having negative opinions. The entire post is dedicated to the context behind those opinions, not the fact that these opinions exist.
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Mar 17, 2017 13:28:27 GMT
Ah how cute the unicorn is eating a rainbow. #PerspectiveIsSubjective
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Mar 17, 2017 13:27:26 GMT
The entire point of this post is to criticize the formation of these opinions. I will get the fire extinguisher ready It's a hot topic for sure. It just needed to be said.
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Mar 17, 2017 13:26:17 GMT
Translation: "RRREEEEE! Why can't everyone like the same games I like?! Can't they see that my opinion is superior?! If they don't like it, something must be wrong with them! Obviously precious Bioware can do no wrong!" Well thank you for exhibiting the same hyperbolic rationale that I talked about in the main post. Also reading comprehension failures are always funny for a laugh. Thank you. I'm not blaming people for not liking the game. I'm telling people that the fact that they dislike something may be a result of their own biases and viewpoints rather than the game itself
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Mar 17, 2017 13:22:06 GMT
Exactly - for you... many people feel that those issues shouldn't be there in an AAA game of 2017, which was supposedly "polished" for almost a year now. Oh here you go giving me some subjective standards for what you consider acceptable in AAA games. Literally every AAA that has come out in recent years has been a buggy mess on release with incomplete features. I do laugh when people conveniently forget how DLC and patches improved on their previous gaming experiences when judging fresh releases. I'm just confused by people's own realities. In fact MEA's release has been smoother than most. The fact that the major complaints are character creation and the few facial animations is a good thing.
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Mar 17, 2017 13:16:50 GMT
No offense but this post is a little....over the top. Everyone has their own opinions...I like the fact that your complaining about people complaining ;)to be fair this should be locked, its just going to flare more people up. The entire point of this post is to criticize the formation of these opinions.
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Mar 17, 2017 13:15:20 GMT
Most of the criticisms though are honest criticisms, not attacking the game for the sake of attacking. A lot of the ones I have read have been "I am enjoying the game but it just has some issues...." I'll admit to having a rocky start with the game but Once I got past all the introduction stuff and into the game proper I am enjoying it more but I still am seeing issues that should be addressed. Sure. Definitely. This post is not directed at level-headed people who can criticize something while still being capable of enjoying it overall.
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Mar 17, 2017 13:14:03 GMT
Or not... hey, if the game works for you as is - great - but lambasting others for not liking what you like? Really? I'm not lambasting people for not liking it. I'm giving them perspective for why they might not like it and their part in why they might not like it. My personal opinion though? The issues people have raised don't nearly justify disliking the game unless you are truly anal.
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Mar 17, 2017 13:07:41 GMT
So a word of advice for life in general. Just fucking move on already and stop bitching at every flaw you encounter. You'll enjoy shit more that way. We told the people that didn't like the ending of ME3 to move on......... that didn't really work out that well. At least that was somewhat understandable because it was the ending of a trilogy. This narrative has barely even started for crying out loud. People crying about baggage are the ones who are bringing it in. I entered this game expecting the Mass Effect ethos not a sequel.
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Mar 17, 2017 12:58:52 GMT
Yea you. You're the problem.
The game has flaws for sure and the devs should be held accountable for many of them.
CC is very limited. Some performance issues on some machines (probably driver related). The intro can be a bit "duh" for some ME veterans. Not being able to save during plot missions kinda sucks in exploration-heavy environments. Some hilarious movement bugs etc...
Still, what I find utterly HILARIOUS is that people think that when they dislike something, it's necessarily because of the object of their scorn rather than themselves.
You don't like the facial animations? Stop fucking staring at them and looking for reasons to hate them. Jesus I wouldn't even have noticed them if I didn't read this damn forum. Of course they are going to look like robots if you stare hard enough. I know people IRL that are "badly animated" by your standards.
You dislike the CC? Yeah I do too. Is it REALLY enough to destroy the game for you? Just work with it til they fix it. You'll love your character all the same whether or not they have a twisted nose. Didn't you play games where your face was pixelated as fk? The presets are scans of real people. Just pick one for now.
You think the story is bad? How about you get past the introduction? How about you admit that you won't enjoy every type of story that is told? How about you admit that after years of being exposed to every type of story out there, you're bound to see some similarities and connections? Yeah things can be overdone, but you also can be overexposed to particular things. How about you admit that Perhaps you don't like quick-paced introductions.
Don't like exploration? Then don't play a game marketed as exploration-heavy. It seems BioWare is heading in that direction (and for the better IMO). If you don't like it, stop expecting otherwise. Don't be anal about looking under every nook and cranny if it bothers you. If you're a completionist then suppress that need if it pisses you off. If you can't, move on.
I can see through it. It's so damn transparent. You just enter the game with a negative bias, nitpick every flaw irrespective of degree, while ignoring every single positive thing you encounter to justify your bias.
A word of advice for gaming in general. Just fucking move on already and stop bitching at every flaw you encounter. You'll enjoy shit more that way.
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Mar 17, 2017 12:42:06 GMT
Not sure how you can say poor character writing when EA Origins Access barely covers the beginning of the game. The introductions of drack and Vetra were better than most in any of the old games. There's so much more life to them. You knew there would be two worlds as deserts. Eledin is the other. We knew it was open word exploration similar to DA:I but even bigger. Animations we can agree on. Everything else seems pretty baseless which is what I'm seeing from most of the negative previews And opening is fine. Would you really want them to start the RPG elements after playing the game for hours? What did you expect? Another Assassins Creed 3 with an 8 hour prologue? Ah because some people just don't understand that writing is not catered to their own personal tastes. People who don't like quick-paced introductions are going to call this "bad writing". Just expect it.
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Mar 17, 2017 12:38:24 GMT
I will play the free trial over the weekend to make my opinion, but from what I've read so far it seems this is a rush job with meh story and bad user interfaces that I've come to hate from Bioware. I will probably cancel my pre-order of the Deluxe edition and wait for it to hit the bargain bin. I'm sorry but I do not pay for half baked goods and companies that don't learn and improve on flaws of past games. And here we have a person that enters the game with negative bias and will probably exaggerate how much he disliked some parts of the game to reinforce that negative opinion he started with.
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Mar 17, 2017 12:34:08 GMT
Don't worry about it. It's the same people in the same threads bitching about it as usual.
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Mar 17, 2017 12:29:13 GMT
That's what a pathfinder is. A fucking scout. Literally the most important thing in a world that is disjointed and surrounded by the unknown on all sides.
If you think Scouts suck, you're the same kind of player I probably destroyed in less than 5 minutes in RTS games because they didn't see my early zerg coming.
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Mar 17, 2017 12:27:18 GMT
You guys wouldn't know a good game if it bit you in the ass. Sure, but the MEA characters aren't even animated well enough to DO a bite... Pretty sure games don't animate bites to begin with.
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Mar 17, 2017 12:23:14 GMT
You guys wouldn't know a good game if it bit you in the ass.
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Mar 17, 2017 4:31:13 GMT
Oh man Casual Ryder gave Sarcastic Hawke a run for his money.
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Mar 17, 2017 1:44:16 GMT
Guys don't respond to this troll.
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Mar 17, 2017 0:20:04 GMT
I decided to stop after arriving at the Nexus so I don't get too engrossed in the game. I want to leave the Nexus as a surprise.
Played around a bit with the CC. I really like preset #2 with some modifications to the lower part of the face + facial hair. Might just continue with the default for now but I think I'll use that Scott for my 2nd playthrough.
Gonna leave the last 4 hours I have for my new game on the 20th.
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