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Post by cooldude on Mar 27, 2017 4:29:38 GMT
Once Shadow of War comes out, I probably will not remember this game.
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Post by Doctor Fumbles on Mar 27, 2017 4:33:29 GMT
Once Shadow of War comes out, I probably will not remember this game. I don't like the game play of Morder series. I saw my friend play it, and I knew it wasn't for me.
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Post by projectpatdc on Mar 27, 2017 4:39:40 GMT
We all wanted it to be a GOTY candidate at the very least. Turns out, it won't get anywhere close. That's the way things happen sometimes. Just because it's not GOTY worthy, doesn't mean it's not still fun to play. And it can still be an individual's GOTY and not so much for others. It's just about perspective. People complaining about the game aren't necessarily wrong either. But the trashing of Bioware and wanting them to fail is what gets me
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Post by thebobzilla84 on Mar 27, 2017 4:42:58 GMT
We all wanted it to be a GOTY candidate at the very least. Turns out, it won't get anywhere close. That's the way things happen sometimes. Just because it's not GOTY worthy, doesn't mean it's not still fun to play. If they manage to fix all the issues MEA has with patches like expanding the shit CC and fixing the Facial Animations/Animations and combine that with 3 or 4 LOTSB/Citadel quality SP Dlc's then it could be a real GOTY contender.
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Mar 27, 2017 4:52:13 GMT
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Post by The Arbiter on Mar 27, 2017 4:57:43 GMT
Once it's polished more and the dlc expansions come out to add more the worlds, it'll be a big contender for my GOTY. I loved Horizon Zero Dawn, but this beats it overall. There's still Red Dead Redemption 2 and God of War and shadow of War and destiny 2 coming out though
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Mar 27, 2017 5:00:53 GMT
Once it's polished more and the dlc expansions come out to add more the worlds, it'll be a big contender for my GOTY. I loved Horizon Zero Dawn, but this beats it overall. There's still Red Dead Redemption 2 and God of War and shadow of War and destiny 2 coming out though I don't know why that picture does disturb but I need a brain washing...NOW! csglobe.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/brainwash.jpg
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Post by RoboticWater on Mar 27, 2017 5:14:22 GMT
We all wanted it to be a GOTY candidate at the very least. Turns out, it won't get anywhere close. That's the way things happen sometimes. Just because it's not GOTY worthy, doesn't mean it's not still fun to play. And it can still be an individual's GOTY and not so much for others. It's just about perspective. People complaining about the game aren't necessarily wrong either. But the trashing of Bioware and wanting them to fail is what gets me This is actually why I think "personal GOTY" was enough for Andromeda. I wanted Andromeda to be an actual GOTY because BioWare really needs the win. The bandwagoning won't stop just because we inform the bandwagoners that they're bandwagoning, especially after such an unpolished and underwhelming release (albeit divisively so). After the negative reactions to ME3 which snowballed with Inquisition and the persistent anti-SJW/generally hateful crowd, BioWare don't have very many people cutting them a lot of slack. While this is a problem for sales, the more important problem is that people are going into BioWare games expecting failure. Even with Inquisition, I think many people glossed over many of the game's strengths because they got fed up with the quest design. The only way to turn this negative sentiment around is to stop playing into it. BioWare really needs a game that's just plain great. A competently made product that can't be torn to shreds just by looking at it and won't fail to impress mechanically. If BioWare put out something like Zelda:BOTW with that Nintendo polish, I don't think anyone could continue the hate train. Secondarily, think they need better direction. People are more than willing to ignore idiosyncrasies if they're wrapped up in new, distinctive style. That's why a game like Horizon: Zero Dawn can still hold up despite suffering from largely standard open world design (admittedly, it's got good gameplay backing it too). BioWare's creative design is just a bit too stale. Serviceable, good even, but in the same way it's been for nearly a decade.
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Post by smilesja on Mar 27, 2017 5:20:25 GMT
And it can still be an individual's GOTY and not so much for others. It's just about perspective. People complaining about the game aren't necessarily wrong either. But the trashing of Bioware and wanting them to fail is what gets me This is actually why I think "personal GOTY" was enough for Andromeda. I wanted Andromeda to be an actual GOTY because BioWare really needs the win. The bandwagoning won't stop just because we inform the bandwagoners that they're bandwagoning, especially after such an unpolished and underwhelming release (albeit divisively so). After the negative reactions to ME3 which snowballed with Inquisition and the persistent anti-SJW/generally hateful crowd, BioWare don't have very many people cutting them a lot of slack. While this is a problem for sales, the more important problem is that people are going into BioWare games expecting failure. Even with Inquisition, I think many people glossed over many of the game's strengths because they got fed up with the quest design. The only way to turn this negative sentiment around is to stop playing into it. BioWare really needs a game that's just plain great. A competently made product that can't be torn to shreds just by looking at it and won't fail to impress mechanically. If BioWare put out something like Zelda:BOTW with that Nintendo polish, I don't think anyone could continue the hate train. Secondarily, think they need better direction. People are more than willing to ignore idiosyncrasies if they're wrapped up in new, distinctive style. That's why a game like Horizon: Zero Dawn can still hold up despite suffering from largely standard open world design (admittedly, it's got good gameplay backing it too). BioWare's creative design is just a bit too stale. Serviceable, good even, but in the same way it's been for nearly a decade. Let's face it, Bioware games are officially the new Call of Duty (as in the game that represents everything "wrong" with gaming). For every game they announce from here on out, there's always going to be a passionate section of people expecting failure whether the game is good or not.
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Post by projectpatdc on Mar 27, 2017 5:33:26 GMT
This is actually why I think "personal GOTY" was enough for Andromeda. I wanted Andromeda to be an actual GOTY because BioWare really needs the win. The bandwagoning won't stop just because we inform the bandwagoners that they're bandwagoning, especially after such an unpolished and underwhelming release (albeit divisively so). After the negative reactions to ME3 which snowballed with Inquisition and the persistent anti-SJW/generally hateful crowd, BioWare don't have very many people cutting them a lot of slack. While this is a problem for sales, the more important problem is that people are going into BioWare games expecting failure. Even with Inquisition, I think many people glossed over many of the game's strengths because they got fed up with the quest design. The only way to turn this negative sentiment around is to stop playing into it. BioWare really needs a game that's just plain great. A competently made product that can't be torn to shreds just by looking at it and won't fail to impress mechanically. If BioWare put out something like Zelda:BOTW with that Nintendo polish, I don't think anyone could continue the hate train. Secondarily, think they need better direction. People are more than willing to ignore idiosyncrasies if they're wrapped up in new, distinctive style. That's why a game like Horizon: Zero Dawn can still hold up despite suffering from largely standard open world design (admittedly, it's got good gameplay backing it too). BioWare's creative design is just a bit too stale. Serviceable, good even, but in the same way it's been for nearly a decade. Let's face it, Bioware games are officially the new Call of Duty (as in the game that represents everything "wrong" with gaming). For every game they announce from here on out, there's always going to be a passionate section of people expecting failure whether the game is good or not.[/quote ] Except Bioware broke their Mass Effect formula for ME2 and ME3 and it's polarizing. The people who hate on ME:A are typically those who loved ME2 and ME3 and that's why they are fans of the series. This issue is those two games were gutted, streamline experiences of ME1 because people didn't want the exploration and open worlds. Those who loved ME1 are typically the ones who are really enjoying this game. Mass Effect has always had subpar animations and quests so I don't get the sudden hate on it. This game has changed the formula and produced something that is a ton of fun to explore with excellent combat, and dialogue that just seems more realistic and human. The OT dialogue options was should I always be professional or always be a dick. I get enough of that vibe in the corporate environment.
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Post by projectpatdc on Mar 27, 2017 5:36:50 GMT
Once it's polished more and the dlc expansions come out to add more the worlds, it'll be a big contender for my GOTY. I loved Horizon Zero Dawn, but this beats it overall. There's still Red Dead Redemption 2 and God of War and shadow of War and destiny 2 coming out though There should be a law where people who look like that aren't allowed to game as a hobby anymore. Or just be publicly executed. That's fucking a nightmare
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Post by aionis on Mar 27, 2017 5:37:14 GMT
I feel like story and lore-wise it was a solid start
They need to really PUSH in ME:A2 I'm talking blowing people away with graphics writing add some new characters everything
I really liked ME:A even when it lacked at times I'm excited for the future of Andromeda and the mysterious/discoveries it holds
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Post by suikoden on Mar 27, 2017 5:42:47 GMT
This I agree with. It seems every game that gets anywhere above 85-90% is GOTY all of a sudden (in order to warrant a re-release). Just release a collector's edition with all the DLC. That's all I ask. I'm still waiting on EA to release a collector's edition of the trilogy with ALL the DLC. But they won't, because they like to nickel and dime you. I'd buy an all in one in an instant - they could even include Andromeda and I'd be all in despite my complaints.
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Post by roseofquartz on Mar 27, 2017 5:50:08 GMT
It's my GOTY. Eh. The year is still early. I didn't hate Andromeda, I'm having lots of fun with it despite the problems, but Horizon still seems to be taking the cake for me this year.
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Post by roseofquartz on Mar 27, 2017 5:51:11 GMT
Shadow of War will be GOTY MEA has many technical problems and most of the side quests and tasks are boring Does Shadow of War even come out this year?
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Post by vanillah on Mar 27, 2017 6:04:15 GMT
After playing Zelda, Horizon and EVEN smallish game like Gravity Rush 2 i can honestly say i will NOT remember ME:A at the year's end when it's time to choose GOTY. The game is definition of AAA conveyor-belt mediocrity, the game has nothing to offer me other than checklist-a-thon. Characters are mediocre, story is flaccid never goes anywhere interesting, parts that should have WAY more weight to them (like first "friendly" contact), glossed over at the speed of light. ME:A have no soul, no imagination, no passion.
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Post by KaiserShep on Mar 27, 2017 6:39:43 GMT
all of which are up to Biowares usual standard...or exceeding them. This is literally a lie. The very first mission of the game breaks its own logic and scraps lore because the writing is so poor. Well, I imagine someone wanted it to follow in ME2's footsteps, so…..mission accomplished?
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Post by panzerwzh on Mar 27, 2017 6:40:45 GMT
Lol, good one OP, red dead 2 is the GOTY for me. Rockstar+Western world, it is not even a competition. BW really screwed the 5 year development cycle and 40 M budget.
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Post by commandercole5 on Mar 27, 2017 6:43:05 GMT
It'll be a contender, but Horizon will win
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Post by Doctor Fumbles on Mar 27, 2017 7:04:01 GMT
Lol, good one OP, red dead 2 is the GOTY for me. Rockstar+Western world, it is not even a competition. BW really screwed the 5 year development cycle and 40 M budget. Even though I have never played the original. Red Dead redemption 2 will win GOTY just from all the stuff I have heard about it. That is believable.
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Post by panzerwzh on Mar 27, 2017 7:05:48 GMT
Well, I imagine someone wanted it to follow in ME2's footsteps, so…..mission accomplished? I feel its worse. "We need to know if that planet is safe. Send our most valuable awake people!" Do you guys not have probes on this ship? If they were damaged because of a physical collision with a dark energy cloud that has no mass, say "Dammit the probes are damaged! We have to go in on foot!" When you're on the Kodiak shuttle entering a volatile planet and you just passed a fart cloud of doom, why aren't you wearing a seat belt? Where are the seats? They show you that you can fix 40% of your helmet with omni-tool-spray. Literally the first thing you do on the planet. And then next time your helmet breaks, there is no attempt to fix it. This could fly with a simple line of dialogue "Oh shit, my omnitool is out of super potion!" and then pops says "Shitballs, mine is too!" But couldn't you guys hold your breath for like a minute and both live? Its only been explained that there isn't really oxygen on the planet, not that whatever gas is so toxic it'll kill you instantly. A few small changes in the writing with a couple lines of dialogue and it all makes sense. Its like if you show a guy at the start of the scene in a movie shooting a gun with bullets, then they holster their gun, draw it again to fire and a flower comes out. Without anything in the middle, it makes no god damn sense. Agreed
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Post by panzerwzh on Mar 27, 2017 7:07:20 GMT
Lol, good one OP, red dead 2 is the GOTY for me. Rockstar+Western world, it is not even a competition. BW really screwed the 5 year development cycle and 40 M budget. Even though I have never played the original. Red Dead redemption 2 will win GOTY just from all the stuff I have heard about it. That is believable. Lol, because you never play RDR? Reasons...
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Post by joglee on Mar 27, 2017 7:07:47 GMT
While i enjoy it so far, it does unfortunately have too many problems to be GOTY contender imo. Fallout 4 won GOTY despite being a glorified FPS with minor RPG aspects.
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Post by vonuber on Mar 27, 2017 7:07:54 GMT
Oh goody it's the same people making the same boring points ad nauseum. I wonder how long you guys will keep this up.
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Post by KaiserShep on Mar 27, 2017 7:10:38 GMT
Technically, the pathfinder is only the most valuable insofar that they're the ones tasked with scouting the dangerous areas before the rest of the population can follow. Multiple pathfinders being sent to Andromeda was meant to account for such a risk. Of course, probes won't pick up everything, and the scourge is screwing with their sensory equipment.
The seats I'll grant. People generally stood up in the kodiak in previous ME games, but people should be able to secure themselves in the shuttle. However, if it means anything, getting blown out the door probably saved them.
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The helmet only sustains a crack, and the omnitool mends it. The next time it breaks, the visor is basically shattered completely after the fall.
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