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Post by Doctor Fumbles on Mar 27, 2017 7:14:11 GMT
Even though I have never played the original. Red Dead redemption 2 will win GOTY just from all the stuff I have heard about it. That is believable. Lol, because you never play RDR? Reasons... It's an old game for the ps2. That's why basically. I also know enough people love that game for the open world it created that it will win due to nostalgia. No, I won't go play it because it doesn't match my gaming standards list.
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Post by colfoley on Mar 27, 2017 7:16:59 GMT
all of which are up to Biowares usual standard...or exceeding them. This is literally a lie. The very first mission of the game breaks its own logic and scraps lore because the writing is so poor. Are you talking about the prologue or the first mission mission?
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Post by panzerwzh on Mar 27, 2017 7:17:49 GMT
Lol, because you never play RDR? Reasons... It's an old game for the ps2. That's why basically. I also know enough people love that game for the open world it created that it will win due to nostalgia. No, I won't go play it because it doesn't match my gaming standards list. RDR is a PS2 game now!? OMFG,this is gold. It also happens to have the most humane story and relatable characters from Rockstar. It is hard only reason I actually own a Xbox360. So yeah you gaming standard is pretty legendary, I tip my hat to you sir! 😭
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Post by vonuber on Mar 27, 2017 7:21:12 GMT
This is literally a lie. The very first mission of the game breaks its own logic and scraps lore because the writing is so poor. True, but people still love mass effect 2 despite it doing that.
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Post by colfoley on Mar 27, 2017 7:23:31 GMT
This is literally a lie. The very first mission of the game breaks its own logic and scraps lore because the writing is so poor. True, but people still love mass effect 2 despite it doing that. Actually this does raise a fairly interesting point. ME 2 had the fairly dubious Lazaruz Project which is hard to explain and a little bit of a logical leap...but it set up one hell of a story. The events of DA I in the beginning was a bit of a leap...but it set up one hell of a story. Sure sure, we get it, the AI is whacked.....but the ride has been wild from there.
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Post by Doctor Fumbles on Mar 27, 2017 7:23:57 GMT
It's an old game for the ps2. That's why basically. I also know enough people love that game for the open world it created that it will win due to nostalgia. No, I won't go play it because it doesn't match my gaming standards list. RDR is a PS2 game now!? OMFG,this is gold. It also happens to have the most humane story and relatable characters from Rockstar. It is hard only reason I actually own a Xbox360. So yeah you gaming standard is pretty legendary, I tip my hat to you sir! 😭 Has nothing to do with story. Might have been Ps3, I don't remember exactly aside from people loving it. Yes, I only like 3 categories of games now. 1. Sci-Fi 2.Fan service(Senran series) 3.Comedy May not be to your standards, but it is what it is. I know what keeps me entertained.
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Post by KaiserShep on Mar 27, 2017 7:30:31 GMT
Technically, the pathfinder is only the most valuable insofar that they're the ones tasked with scouting the dangerous areas before the rest of the population can follow. Multiple pathfinders being sent to Andromeda was meant to account for such a risk. The seats I'll grant. People generally stood up in the kodiak in previous ME games, but people should be able to secure themselves in the shuttle. However, if it means anything, getting blown out the door probably saved them. As for Ryder's helmet, check the prologue: -snip- The helmet only sustains a crack, and the omnitool mends it. The next time it breaks, the visor is basically shattered completely after the fall. Sending probes to check planets was a whole feature in ME2. Why does this exploration ship, constructed and leaving in ME2's wheelhouse with technology far more advanced than ME2, have no probes or any other means than sending incredibly valuable, and few, pathfinders physically to the dangerous planet? It looked to me like it was busted wide open when I played through it but that video does make it look more like a crack, fair enough. The rest of that paragraph stands though. All that can easily be written off as the result of the electrical storms and interference from the scourge basically making any real scanning of the surface impossible. I'm pretty sure this exact thing is touched upon on the bridge of the Hyperion, and that's putting aside the fact that simply abandoning the planet was not an option the Pathfinder wanted to consider until the surface was properly assessed, since it was meant to be their new colony world. Doing this is the entire source of the Pathfinder's value. Our pathfinder has no real value to the initiative outside of going out to these dangerous places first and alone so no one else has to.
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Post by colfoley on Mar 27, 2017 7:36:58 GMT
Technically, the pathfinder is only the most valuable insofar that they're the ones tasked with scouting the dangerous areas before the rest of the population can follow. Multiple pathfinders being sent to Andromeda was meant to account for such a risk. The seats I'll grant. People generally stood up in the kodiak in previous ME games, but people should be able to secure themselves in the shuttle. However, if it means anything, getting blown out the door probably saved them. As for Ryder's helmet, check the prologue: -snip- The helmet only sustains a crack, and the omnitool mends it. The next time it breaks, the visor is basically shattered completely after the fall. Sending probes to check planets was a whole feature in ME2. Why does this exploration ship, constructed and leaving in ME2's wheelhouse with technology far more advanced than ME2, have no probes or any other means than sending incredibly valuable, and few, pathfinders physically to the dangerous planet? It looked to me like it was busted wide open when I played through it but that video does make it look more like a crack, fair enough. The rest of that paragraph stands though. have you played the game? The Tempest does have probes onboard that checks things out. As far as most of the situations where we have seen the pathfinder land on the planet probes would not have really been able to help. At least not the probes we saw in ME 2 era or even ME 3 era. Because the Pathfinder: - Has to interact and scan alien technology.
- Establish diplomatic relations with other alien races.
- Engage in political dealings with various parties to clear up any threats.
- Engage enemy forces in combat to clear any potential world of threats to its viability.
I mean I get it, its just the 'why is the Inquisitor doing menial tasks' argument all over again but, as dubious as it ways for Dragon Age Inquisition, it falls way apart for Mass Effect Andromeda. The point is you can't do everything with a probe, especially in the ME Universe.
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Post by zipzap2000 on Mar 27, 2017 7:38:03 GMT
Personally I think Nier is gonna clean up.
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Mar 27, 2017 7:44:14 GMT
It may not win game of the year but damn this game is better than the internet's current bitch fest would have you believe. I have been playing almost nonstop since release and I still havn't completed my first playthrough. I have been taking my time exploring the content and there is alot here and a pretty good chunk of it is high quality at that. Sure you still have the occasional collection three of these or scan 5 of that but it is surprising how many of these quests that seem like small things at first will turn into a pretty decent quest chain. Not saying this is better than the trilogy but mechanically it improves what the trilogy had.
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Post by colfoley on Mar 27, 2017 7:47:40 GMT
It may not win game of the year but damn this game is better than the internet's current bitch fest would have you believe. I have been playing almost nonstop since release and I still havn't completed my first playthrough. I have been taking my time exploring the content and there is alot here and a pretty good chunk of it is high quality at that. Sure you still have the occasional collection three of these or scan 5 of that but it is surprising how many of these quests that seem like small things at first will turn into a pretty decent quest chain. Not saying this is better than the trilogy but mechanically it improves what the trilogy had. Kind of interesting was watching my Fiance play the game...well most of the day...and she did a side quest that was a 'task'...and it had a plot twist in it that was positively Witcher 3-esque.
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Post by rheia on Mar 27, 2017 8:11:34 GMT
Bioware used to be the pioneers and innovators in the realm of cinematic story telling. They used to be the guys who set the standard. Nowadays they are failing to deliver something that even on par with their old releases, let alone innovating anything.
GOTY material? No iffing way.
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Post by leonick on Mar 27, 2017 8:19:59 GMT
The GOTY of 2017? Yes, then they made a big mistake in releasing the same year as a new Zelda and Red Dead Redemption 2, games that will grab GOTY awards on name alone (especially Zelda).
Still think the game is a contender and will get a couple awards though, especially down in genre specific categories. Game got its hooks in to me, 60+ hours so far and enjoyed everyone of them, still plenty to do as well. Might not end up technically the best ME game, but at this rate I suspect it'll be my favourite.
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Post by tziwen on Mar 27, 2017 10:39:17 GMT
Skyrim is by defenetion the incarnation of dull openworld with nothing in it. MEA tries -clumsily- to tie things together. Now is MEa a good openworld? Heh. I'm not sure but for sure it ain't a terrible one. BG1 and 2: The most praised BW games are those focusing on characters and not on main plots: ME2 is vain but has great characters. BG2 is... God-son story seen many times but even after those years i still remember Imoen andd Jon Irenicus. Tell me BW should give up on making games such as DA and even ME and focus on a character driven space opera closed chamber mystery: I'ld agree. They know how to write engaging people but not engaging stories. Remove the sympathy for the studio, sexy sex scenes and the books: What remains of TW3? A visually downgraded game, buggy at release, featuring a vast world with good writting -granted- and a clunky fighting system, some "follow the batman detective vision" monster hunts/side quests, awfull menus and limited character progression. Defenetly GOTY material.... Lol - okay you've clearly never played TW3. Andromeda looks like hot garbage in comparison, and none of its environments are interactive. You just walk down gated paths at Bioware's prodding. But you can jump now to help you get where they want you to go faster! I think people like you that pan the Witcher just don't like how you can't make a customized face for Geralt. If his face was customizable, you would love it. And not RPG of the year, RPG of the decade so far. That's why everyone compares everything to it - it's the standard bearer that other games try and measure up to. i've played TW3, i've followed the marketing, i've seen the downgrade, seen the bugs and the studio apologyzing for them with free DLC. This game isn't exeptional. it had high ambition and delt with it nicely. But lots of things are average at best.
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Post by The Twilight God on Mar 27, 2017 12:09:16 GMT
Nah, it's definitely how bad it is. for me it MIGHT end up being my favorite Mass Effect game. That's just not true. It's the worst ME game you've ever played and that's just a fact.
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Post by atricks on Mar 27, 2017 12:28:17 GMT
It's my GOTY. mine too! I'm having so much fun.
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Post by The Twilight God on Mar 27, 2017 12:29:47 GMT
Well, I imagine someone wanted it to follow in ME2's footsteps, so…..mission accomplished? I feel its worse. "We need to know if that planet is safe. Send our most valuable awake people!" Do you guys not have probes on this ship? If they were damaged because of a physical collision with a dark energy cloud that has no mass, say "Dammit the probes are damaged! We have to go in on foot!" When you're on the Kodiak shuttle entering a volatile planet and you just passed a fart cloud of doom, why aren't you wearing a seat belt? Where are the seats? They show you that you can fix 40% of your helmet with omni-tool-spray. Literally the first thing you do on the planet. And then next time your helmet breaks, there is no attempt to fix it. This could fly with a simple line of dialogue "Oh shit, my omnitool is out of super potion!" and then pops says "Shitballs, mine is too!" But couldn't you guys hold your breath for like a minute and both live? Its only been explained that there isn't really oxygen on the planet, not that whatever gas is so toxic it'll kill you instantly. A few small changes in the writing with a couple lines of dialogue and it all makes sense. Its like if you show a guy at the start of the scene in a movie shooting a gun with bullets, then they holster their gun, draw it again to fire and a flower comes out. Without anything in the middle, it makes no god damn sense. N7 super commando dad who can't even conceive of swapping his helmet back and forth between himself and his child.
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Post by goishen on Mar 27, 2017 12:47:02 GMT
It's just... I have lost any interest in the game. Almost got off Voeld. And my interest level is zero. I'm fairly sure that I'll go through it sometime. Just wow.
And don't tell it gets better later.
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Post by panzerwzh on Mar 27, 2017 12:47:35 GMT
I feel its worse. "We need to know if that planet is safe. Send our most valuable awake people!" Do you guys not have probes on this ship? If they were damaged because of a physical collision with a dark energy cloud that has no mass, say "Dammit the probes are damaged! We have to go in on foot!" When you're on the Kodiak shuttle entering a volatile planet and you just passed a fart cloud of doom, why aren't you wearing a seat belt? Where are the seats? They show you that you can fix 40% of your helmet with omni-tool-spray. Literally the first thing you do on the planet. And then next time your helmet breaks, there is no attempt to fix it. This could fly with a simple line of dialogue "Oh shit, my omnitool is out of super potion!" and then pops says "Shitballs, mine is too!" But couldn't you guys hold your breath for like a minute and both live? Its only been explained that there isn't really oxygen on the planet, not that whatever gas is so toxic it'll kill you instantly. A few small changes in the writing with a couple lines of dialogue and it all makes sense. Its like if you show a guy at the start of the scene in a movie shooting a gun with bullets, then they holster their gun, draw it again to fire and a flower comes out. Without anything in the middle, it makes no god damn sense. N7 super commando dad who can't even conceive of swapping his helmet back and forth between himself and his child. Or suffocated to death within a minute.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2017 12:47:53 GMT
It's just... I have lost any interest in the game. Almost got off Voeld. And my interest level is zero. I'm fairly sure that I'll go through it sometime. Just wow. And don't tell it gets better later. It gets better later!
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Post by The Twilight God on Mar 27, 2017 12:54:22 GMT
N7 super commando dad who can't even conceive of swapping his helmet back and forth between himself and his child. Or suffocated to death within a minute. More like within a second. Dude passed damn near instantly. A Navy Seal has to hold their breath for 2 minutes (I thought it was longer). N7 sounds like it's more intense training than even the Seals. I can hold my breath for 2 minutes if rested and relaxed which is why I assumed Seals had to hold it for longer.
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Post by panzerwzh on Mar 27, 2017 13:01:28 GMT
Or suffocated to death within a minute. More like within a second. Dude passed damn near instantly. A Navy Seal has to hold their breath for 2 minutes (I thought it was longer). N7 sounds like it's more intense training than even the Seals. I can hold my breath for 2 minutes if rested and relaxed which is why I assumed Seals had to hold it for longer. They could easily copy the 'Imbiber' system for Space Marines from WH40K universe. A genetically modified multi-lung system to enhance combat performances. Given argumentation and genetical modification is all over the andromeda in MEA.
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Post by arreyanne on Mar 27, 2017 13:40:53 GMT
It is my GotY so far... 70 hours in, at the last mission... if it ends solidly this will be up with Inquisition in the greatest games of all time discussion. Yes, I mean that. Deal with it haters. After the slow start Andromeda has become better, GOTY maybe, maybe not, haven't finished yet. Inquisition your favorite game of all time OMG! As far as I gotten in any play through which I have attempted many, even bought the first DLC, is whatever the name of that castle is. Inquisition had to be the worst BioWare game Ive ever played. I'm glad you liked it. But give me DA:O over any other DA game.
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Post by ticktak77 on Mar 27, 2017 14:29:19 GMT
We all wanted it to be a GOTY candidate at the very least. Turns out, it won't get anywhere close. That's the way things happen sometimes. Just because it's not GOTY worthy, doesn't mean it's not still fun to play. And it can still be an individual's GOTY and not so much for others. It's just about perspective. People complaining about the game aren't necessarily wrong either. But the trashing of Bioware and wanting them to fail is what gets me Sure it can, but I'm fairly certain OP was referring to GOTY on the industry / awards level, not the individual level.
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