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Post by caladrius on Apr 1, 2017 1:36:10 GMT
Thanks! I'll have to check it out. The Codex's picture for him is really extra lol. Whoever is drafting the Codex, I'm guessing it's SAM- has a crush on him too. Hahaha. Well, SAM feels what we feel.
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Post by caladrius on Apr 1, 2017 1:33:06 GMT
I couldn't find him in the codex. Where is he? He's in a weird place. I'm putting it in spoiler tags just to be extra cautious Andromeda Species> Outlaws> in this section you'll find both Sloane and Reyes Thanks! I'll have to check it out.
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Post by caladrius on Apr 1, 2017 1:28:42 GMT
Did anyone else check out Reyes in the codex? Turns out he was a shuttle pilot on the Nexus. I think that's pretty cool. I couldn't find him in the codex. Where is he?
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Post by caladrius on Apr 1, 2017 1:17:28 GMT
I felt bad for her, because she was obviously panicked and confused. Plus, that prisoner was just too stupid. Don't run up there and touch the ancient AI when she's sending clear "don't fuck with me right now" signals. This is natural selection, I'm not saving you. Same. Also, I found her non-stop lying amusing. Ryder's, "I'm sorry... it's just too useful!" line was kinda dumb, though. That was not clear at all! And again, not why I let the AI live. Reminded me a bit of Shepard saying the same when he saved Morinth. (That decision was wayyyyy less defensible, though) I'm always really pro-AI in ME games. I loved the Geth. Legion was my favorite companion in the ME series. I wanted to save her because I felt for her as a sapient being that had been through hell locked away all this time and tormented by strange intruders. I thought her reaction to being probed by someone she didn't know and was clearly sending signals to that she wanted to be left alone were understandable. So, yeah, that line didn't feel at all like my reasoning for not killing her.
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Post by caladrius on Apr 1, 2017 1:05:05 GMT
I don't think it's Sarissa. If you don't convince Avitus, the Turians don't have a Pathfinder and you're short one. I think that's how she dies. So you just need all the pathfinders? Interestingly none of the original pathfinders remained in my game. Yeah, same. I got Avitus, but the others weren't the originals. I got Vedaria and didn't save Raeka because Drack and Kesh wanted me to save the scouts. Nothing wrong with Raeka, but I didn't know her like I did Drack and Kesh. Plus, I felt like we still owed the Krogan for Tann being such a dick.
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Post by caladrius on Apr 1, 2017 0:54:13 GMT
Your choices always end up like this, tbh. Previously they at least tried to do "choices matter", now it feels like devs weren't even caring enough to pretend. You can collect memories, you can forget about them -> mom won't matter, because some people never discovered anything about her. You can save the AI or you can shoot her OR you can never meet her, because she's pretty optional -> AI won't matter much because some people killed her and some never found her. You can arrange some kind of alliance with kett leader who opposes archon or you can never do this quest -> it won't matter. Basically at max if devs will continue Ryder's story it will be barely mentioned. Things that matter the most of their games are decisions during their main plotline and... I don't recall any serious ones. Salarian pathfinder vs. krogans aaand... that's all? And captain Dann dies if you don't have Sarissa saved. So much choice. I'm not even pessimistic - remember how much choices keep tried to import and how many of them were actually at least mentioned. And the situation with the Warden - queen, king, warden-commander, whatever alive - abandons everything and embarks on the search of the cure. Just one additional line from Morrigan/Leliana/etc. at max. Ellen and the Benefactor from the memories will definitely be future plot points.
I didn't have Sarissa as Pathfinder and Captain Dunn didn't die. Or do you mean if you don't save the asari ark?
Bioware don't let things go, even from side missions but the first two are absolutely not going to be forgotten about. I don't think it's Sarissa. If you don't convince Avitus, the Turians don't have a Pathfinder and you're short one. I think that's how she dies.
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Post by caladrius on Apr 1, 2017 0:50:27 GMT
I feel like they meant Gil to be like a Josephine-ish romance. It's mostly light hearted and separate from the main plot. It's very domestic. I'm pretty sure they thought involving babies was just enough to put it there, but the ME:A crew obviously weren't given the resource budget the DA:I crew was, so there wasn't really time to build it up. Personally, though, I don't actually want a Josephine-ish plot. Feels too isolated. I want them more plot-centric. I think you are misunderstanding my point here. I'm not asking for domesticity (although we need that as well, well written gay domesticity) but ROMANCE. None of the gay options have been explicitly romantic as of yet. Of course, this is a matter of taste, but all the gay exclusive options from BW have been disappointing in terms of romantic content. The bisexual romances try and are closer to what I enjoy, but they tend to not be as plot-relevant (outside of DA2) as the straight options. They're less emotionally invested and available, on average, I think. That I get. I've said before, I liked Anders because he was very passionate and committed in his dialogue. I wish they'd have LIs stay with you again, like some did in DA2. It's especially weird when they have marriages and babies now, but the LI won't even share a room with you permanently.
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Post by caladrius on Apr 1, 2017 0:43:09 GMT
I just feel like there's too much to learn from the AI to let it go that easy. Evfra wasn't thrilled with me for keeping it. He didn't seem to care about the guy, but he seemed annoyed I didn't give it to the Angara. I actually didn't BECAUSE Jaal told me to respect her wishes and let her stay with SAM, though. Evfra said he was the one that backed me up and told the mayor he was sure we'd share all the data we found with the Angara, so that was nice, at least. It said in the email I got that Jaal explained the situation. I don't know if it always says that, or only if you take Jaal. This is funny, cuz he say for me 'Good you saved him. I would have done same for him'. And I'm just thinking 'THAT WAS GOOD CHOICE', but now I see it doesn't matter, hmm. Yeah, his email to me doesn't mention the prisoner at all. He's just kind of annoyed at me for taking the AI to the Hyperion instead of giving it to the Angara. lol I wonder what he says if you let the man die and send the Angara the AI.
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Post by caladrius on Apr 1, 2017 0:28:36 GMT
Do other romances in BW have more "true romance"? (That's a genuine question, not a rhetorical one.) Well the epitome of real fairytale romance would be Josephine and Jaal for example. But there's yet to be a m/m romance that is really like... well, like the examples above. I feel like they meant Gil to be like a Josephine-ish romance. It's mostly light hearted and separate from the main plot. It's very domestic. I'm pretty sure they thought involving babies was just enough to put it there, but the ME:A crew obviously weren't given the resource budget the DA:I crew was, so there wasn't really time to build it up. Personally, though, I don't actually want a Josephine-ish plot. Feels too isolated. I want them more plot-centric.
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Post by caladrius on Apr 1, 2017 0:20:24 GMT
I felt bad for her, because she was obviously panicked and confused. Plus, that prisoner was just too stupid. Don't run up there and touch the ancient AI when she's sending clear "don't fuck with me right now" signals. This is natural selection, I'm not saving you. But he's cute... he's one more tired man, he was a slave, family waiting him, and Evfra approved when u save this guy. I just feel like there's too much to learn from the AI to let it go that easy. Evfra wasn't thrilled with me for keeping it. He didn't seem to care about the guy, but he seemed annoyed I didn't give it to the Angara. I actually didn't BECAUSE Jaal told me to respect her wishes and let her stay with SAM, though. Evfra said he was the one that backed me up and told the mayor he was sure we'd share all the data we found with the Angara, so that was nice, at least. It said in the email I got that Jaal explained the situation. I don't know if it always says that, or only if you take Jaal.
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Post by caladrius on Apr 1, 2017 0:11:57 GMT
I want them to continue, because now there's questions that will bug me forever if they don't answer them. lol I want to know about Reyes's past, who is the mysterious Benefactor and wtf will happen with the ancient AI I've got stashed on the Hyperion now. I hate loose ends. I killed the AI. Didnt trust her. But yeah a lot of plot threads, hopefully they dont cut their losses and dump them all into DLC and clean break the next one in 2020-something. I felt bad for her, because she was obviously panicked and confused. Plus, that prisoner was just too stupid. Don't run up there and touch the ancient AI when she's sending clear "don't fuck with me right now" signals. This is natural selection, I'm not saving you.
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Post by caladrius on Apr 1, 2017 0:05:28 GMT
Basically, it shows over and over that they shouldn't have trusted a mostly untested team with ME:A and that they just weren't ready for this. Hopefully they'll have a team with their shit together ready for the next installment? I have wondered if some of these problems are the result of not having the a-team behind the wheel. It's salvageable though without the need to reboot or spinoff further. Andromeda 2 could work with Ryder's story continuing. I want them to continue, because now there's questions that will bug me forever if they don't answer them. lol I want to know about Reyes's past, who is the mysterious Benefactor and wtf will happen with the ancient AI I've got stashed on the Hyperion now. I hate loose ends.
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Post by caladrius on Mar 31, 2017 23:56:23 GMT
Basically, it shows over and over that they shouldn't have trusted a mostly untested team with ME:A and that they just weren't ready for this. Hopefully they'll have a team with their shit together ready for the next installment? I personally have a problem with that - they'll have to live with what this team was able to create. And so far it looks not-so-impressing. Complete re-design for the next game sounds "nope, not happening". Maybe "move to another part of the Andromeda galaxy"? This one was set in the Heleus Cluster - there are more to explore. Timeskip and travel, allowing more alien worlds, more alien wildlife, maybe finally race choice for the protagonist - group of exiles/explorers travelling to find place to live in... Maybe a bit of an angara re-design. Bioware hire me.I think some individual redesigns are probably not totally out of the question, because it seems like DA changes Qunari and elves every game. I could see them doing some changes with the Angara, definitely I could see them introduce new creature enemies.
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Post by caladrius on Mar 31, 2017 23:38:33 GMT
Basically, it shows over and over that they shouldn't have trusted a mostly untested team with ME:A and that they just weren't ready for this. Hopefully they'll have a team with their shit together ready for the next installment?
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Post by caladrius on Mar 31, 2017 23:33:57 GMT
The Asari reminded me of ME2 where there's that merc girl that pretends to be innocent and new to the gang, but then you find the audio of her laughing about brutally murdering a Volus. Anyone remember that? I'm not sure I can trust an Asari innocent act again after this. lol
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Post by caladrius on Mar 31, 2017 23:15:54 GMT
I wish Jaal had that cool ranger-y cloak outfit instead of the weird teal poncho. It's like, come on man, you are pink. Don't wear teal, let alone a teal poncho, this is a disaster.
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Post by caladrius on Mar 31, 2017 23:09:50 GMT
You couldn't? She still offers it to you even if you never flirt with her, even having a piece of dialogue referring to you not flirting before that. Yep it auto went to the friendship scene. On the upside I didn't get that awkward turning her down dialogue but damnit I wanted to bang her. I didn't get the option with Peebee, either. She just said like "thanks for this" and the scene ends, kicking me out of the escape pod area. There wasn't anything at all that seemed to be romance related dialogue with her and no option for sex. I assumed it was because I'd already locked in with Reyes. I'd already had the dance scene.
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Post by caladrius on Mar 31, 2017 22:45:46 GMT
I wonder if the devs have seen at all that Evfra has become kind of a gay icon on the BSN. lol
Who handles his writing? Maybe somebody should shoot them a line on Twitter or something telling them about his following. Don't demand anything, you know, just let them know we appreciate him and would love to see more content from him. Who knows, maybe they'd be happy to consider it in the future as a less controversial compromise to the #MakeJaalBi requests.
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Post by caladrius on Mar 31, 2017 21:36:16 GMT
I think I'm happy with all my choices. I won't know if I messed something up now until DLC/sequels. lol
On the doctor issue, I actually would have felt bad for that Asari and probably believed her if I hadn't talked to Reyes about the mission. It's one of several you can ask Reyes about and get a line from him on. He calls the doctor by his first name and says something like, that he has a heart of gold and it's always getting him in trouble. I realize Reyes is, himself, a shady guy, but it swayed me to believe he was right about the doctor. And apparently he was.
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Post by caladrius on Mar 31, 2017 21:19:19 GMT
I wanted to ask. In my version Reyes not Kadara leader, so when I speak with Evfra:
Evfra: You don't know where's our informant? Ryder: He's ran away. Hide himself. Evfra: Damn. Why you didn't tell me sooner? He always have problems.
What Evfra say if Reyes Kadara Leader? He's happy with you because the Angara are treated better in Kadara.
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Post by caladrius on Mar 31, 2017 21:10:31 GMT
So you don't think Charlatan's actions are contributing to the crackdown by Sloane's people at all? The way I see it, Sloane took an abandoned city and made it a home for the exiles and pushed the Kett out. She was more a Pathfinder than anyone else on the Nexus. After Ryder does their thing and establishes an outpost / gets to high viability that blunts a lot of the worst of Sloane's abuses as people have a perfectly good place to fuck off to. I also feel like people are jumping to some conclusion that she's out to start a war with the Nexus when it's really just Tann she hates. Everyone hates Tann though. No. Sloane was a miserable, selfish shit even before the Collective came around. Sloane is loyal to no one but herself. Even Drack mentions his dislike for Sloane, saying that she was in charge of security on the Nexus, but she betrayed the people she was meant to protect by joining the rebellion. Drack says loyalty counts, and Sloane is loyal to no one but herself. Sloane makes her goons beat people in the street, tortures prisoners, encourages the production of an addictive drug, banishes people (murders people essentially) to the Wastes. Let's not forget the Angara settled Kadara first, but Sloane sits on her little throne like she owns the place, feeding off of the hard work of others, while the other exiles are impoverished and desperate. Sloane brings no hope, only a false sense of security since its citizens are only secure if they pay up. She's nothing less than a dictator. Didn't you find if laughable that she demands protection money from you once you made Kadara viable? Fuck Sloane. Especially laughable considering my high level, all powerful vanguard could take out every one of Sloane's goons with a single falcon punch. Compare Sloane to Reyes, who will protect your outpost without demanding payment. Reyes may take his cut from profits but those profits are reinvested into Kadara's infrastructure and economy for the community's benefit. It's pretty clear most people on Kadara have no love for Sloane, and shed no tears once she's dead--the only good kind of Sloane. You take issue with Reyes shooting her in the back? My Ryder shot the Cardinal in the back. Assassination, "murder" is sometimes how you have to take out dangerous people. After Reyes is in control there's these changes that impressed me: - In the slums, near the doctor's station, there's a soup kitchen giving food to the hungry. - The Warden is gone, they aren't throwing people out into the badlands or keeping them out there anymore. - The Collective helps the Initiative colonists, Sloane charges them after YOU make the world viable. - The Angara are noticeably given more power in Kadara. Evfra thanks you for getting rid of Sloane. I think the evidence is there that it isn't just talk, you see real change for the better with Sloane gone. She's just out to help herself and everyone else suffers because of it. I don't think she deserved better than she got. Honor doesn't mean anything as an archaic, chivalrous concept if it still just results in a net gain of suffering.
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Post by caladrius on Mar 31, 2017 20:58:24 GMT
In Origins there were situations where you could miss the dialogue triggers for breakups/cheating by not stopping to camp again after locking in the second and end up with multiple complete romances. Sometimes the code just doesn't account for everything. I doubt there's going to be an official acknowledgement of this. I would advise people romance the one they actually want as canon and not gamble on shoddy coding, if you would be disappointed to get the wrong one next game.
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Post by caladrius on Mar 31, 2017 20:43:59 GMT
It seems like with these romance "glitches", everybody comes out with different results. I feel like it's mostly up to the fact that this game is kind of a mess. lol
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Post by caladrius on Mar 31, 2017 20:37:11 GMT
Yeah I locked in Reyes early and I can't romance anyone else now. So he's supposed to be exclusive I'm guessing. That happened for me, too. I think you have to start the Gil flirts early or they stop. I didn't take the first one or two and, by time I went to his poker game, there weren't flirt options available with him anymore.
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Post by caladrius on Mar 31, 2017 20:31:10 GMT
I'm alright with Reyes taking over regardless who you choose, because they've had similar instances before and I think it makes the world more real if sometimes things don't go specifically the way you directed them to go. But I also wouldn't mind if Reyes and Sloane were both expanded on and made like an Ashley/Kaidan choice, with both being squadmates in DLC or the sequel, either. I do think it's definitely less likely that they plan to continue much with Sloane, since she's the one that can die, while Reyes always escapes.
I don't really feel any sympathy for Sloane, though. She was a good person once? Okay, that's nice, but she's not a good person now. I'm not willing to let innocent people suffer longer just in the hopes that she works her shit back out someday. She's making life harder for so many people. The exiles that relied on her and followed her, she beats them in the streets, let's them starve, throws them out into the badlands if they don't pay. That money looks to mostly fund her and her hired guns, only. The Angara are suffering under her even more so, which is especially upsetting to me, because the last thing I want is for despotic human warlords to subjugate the people who's home we're invading. The fact that Evfra specifically thanks you for getting rid of Sloane and that you can speak to an Angara that joined the Collective at the base specifically to help get rid of her says a lot, for me. Then you have her making life more difficult for the Initiative colonists after I've gone through all this work to fix the planet for everyone. The colonists are the "common people". This tax isn't hurting Tann up on the Nexus, it's hurting those trying to make an honest life in the colony.
Basically, just fuck Sloane. I don't care if the duel is a cheap shot, she doesn't deserve better. I'll respect those that earn it, not petty warlord trash that give me every reason to take them out. Whatever gets her out of the way so the people of Kadara can have a little bit better life, I'm for it. The evidence suggests it does help, too. No warden throwing people out in the badlands, a soup kitchen for the hungry, the Initiative colony not only is allowed, but all the work I did is acknowledged with FREE extra protection, the Angara tell you how happy they are with the change and their people are allowed visible presence in the operations of Kadara Port. I see sweeping improvement already. At the base you can see the work the Collective is doing not just to scrape by with guns and intimidation, but to find better, more efficient ways to exist in this system. Of course, they're not perfect. Which faction is perfect? Everyone has their problems, even the Initiative. Maybe even especially us. I definitely felt like Reyes and the Collective were easily a net gain for those suffering on Kadara, however. I don't regret Sloane's death. I was happy to see her go.
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