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Post by The Biotic Trebuchet on Sept 8, 2016 14:37:36 GMT
Wait, if you're going to play as MRyder, the default FemRyder will be your sis?, and backwards?!!!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2016 14:40:24 GMT
During the Mac Walters interview where he mentioned your sibling and father, he said something like "and we'll announce names later." I'm guessing we may have set first names this time around. If we are going to interact with our family, it wouldn't make much sense for your father or sibling to call you by your last name or military rank, after all. I'm fine with this, but I know some people may be upset if this is the case. But naming Shepard never really mattered much to me personally since I knew the name would never be spoken or heard in the game itself.
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Post by shechinah on Sept 8, 2016 14:40:43 GMT
Wait, if you're going to play as MRyder, the default FemRyder will be your sis?, and backwards?!!! Yup, whoever is not selected as the protagonist will be Ryder's sister though whether the sibling make an on-screen appearance waits to be seen.
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Post by CHRrOME on Sept 8, 2016 14:42:38 GMT
Didn't they said that the N7 guy in the trailer wasn't actually N7? or I'm mixing stuff? I know they said he wasn't the playable char and now we know he's the father.
They said whichever you choose, the other sibling is also in Andromeda somewhere. Maybe they were in different arks and at some point they reunite? Also they mentioned an antagonist. Could it be the father? maybeeeeeeeee.
So in the past trailer they showed the father run with the blonde girl (possibly Cora) and the Krogan (Drake), maybe they're part of his squad and the asari and the other dude are from Ryder junior squad?
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Post by The Biotic Trebuchet on Sept 8, 2016 14:43:13 GMT
Wait, if you're going to play as MRyder, the default FemRyder will be your sis?, and backwards?!!! Yup, whoever is not selected as the protagonist will be Ryder's sister though whether the sibling make an on-screen appearance waits to be seen. Andraste's arse, that's new... (at least for BW), i wonder how will play out (It's nice btw)
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Post by shechinah on Sept 8, 2016 14:43:51 GMT
During the Mac Walters interview where he mentioned your sibling and father, he said something like "and we'll announce names later." I'm guessing we may have set first names this time around. If we are going to interact with our family, it wouldn't make much sense for your father or sibling to call you by your last name or military rank, after all. I'm fine with this, but I know some people may be upset if this is the case. But naming Shepard never really mattered much to me personally since I knew the name would never be spoken or heard in the game itself. While that is a possibility, it is also possibly that he is simply referring to the default names: Shepard's default names were Jane if female and John if male. I believe it has been confirmed that the male default is named Scott.
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Post by saberchic on Sept 8, 2016 14:43:51 GMT
Yup, whoever is not selected as the protagonist will be Ryder's sister though whether the sibling make an on-screen appearance waits to be seen. Andraste's arse, that's new... (at least for BW), i wonder how will play out (It's nice btw) In DA2 you had family.
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Post by shechinah on Sept 8, 2016 14:45:13 GMT
Didn't they said that the N7 guy in the trailer wasn't actually N7? or I'm mixing stuff? I know they said he wasn't the playable char and now we know he's the father. No, it was confirmed that the N7 was not the player character; I've never heard anything about him not being N7.
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Post by Ahriman on Sept 8, 2016 14:46:07 GMT
During the Mac Walters interview where he mentioned your sibling and father, he said something like "and we'll announce names later." I'm guessing we may have set first names this time around. If we are going to interact with our family, it wouldn't make much sense for your father or sibling to call you by your last name or military rank, after all. I'm fine with this, but I know some people may be upset if this is the case. But naming Shepard never really mattered much to me personally since I knew the name would never be spoken or heard in the game itself. Could be that unchosen sibling uses default name. But it still would be awkward if PC remembers sibling's name, but not the other way. That didn't stop them in DA2 though.
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Post by The Biotic Trebuchet on Sept 8, 2016 14:46:53 GMT
Andraste's arse, that's new... (at least for BW), i wonder how will play out (It's nice btw) In DA2 you had family. Yeah, but it was a half-ass "family" (with 2 mandatory deaths and 1 optional... ) (and no N7 father )
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Post by saberchic on Sept 8, 2016 14:48:40 GMT
Yeah, but it was a half-ass "family" (with 2 mandatory deaths and 1 optional... ) (and no N7 father ) There's nothing to say they won't go this route either. I hope to God they don't, but they might. (There's no mother that we've seen so far, so family count is still the same)
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Post by CHRrOME on Sept 8, 2016 14:53:30 GMT
Didn't they said that the N7 guy in the trailer wasn't actually N7? or I'm mixing stuff? I know they said he wasn't the playable char and now we know he's the father. No, it was confirmed that the N7 was not the player character; I've never heard anything about him not being N7. Probably was "the playable character is not N7 (Ryder) and the N7 dude in the trailer is not the playable character" .
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Post by shechinah on Sept 8, 2016 14:57:10 GMT
No, it was confirmed that the N7 was not the player character; I've never heard anything about him not being N7. Probably was "the playable character is not N7 (Ryder) and the N7 dude in the trailer is not the playable character" . I think it got rather confusing for some especially since a lot of people who saw the E3 2015 trailer understandably got the impression that the N7 was the playable character due to it focusing on him and the fact that Shepard was N7.
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Post by Ahriman on Sept 8, 2016 14:59:02 GMT
I think it got rather confusing for some especially since a lot of people who saw the E3 2015 trailer understandably got the impression that the N7 was the playable character due to it focusing on him and the fact that Shepard was N7. It was also about the fact that first shown concepts of PC had N7 signs on them.
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Post by shechinah on Sept 8, 2016 15:00:28 GMT
Is anyone else curious about N7's voice? He also seems to be a bit of a renegade if his treatment of the guy getting dropped off a ledge is any indication. That's kind of neat. I'm really curious about his personality.
I wonder if he was an absent father due to being N7 in the military but I also hope that they might leave some details for the player to fill out through dialogue options.
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Post by shechinah on Sept 8, 2016 15:02:09 GMT
I think it got rather confusing for some especially since a lot of people who saw the E3 2015 trailer understandably got the impression that the N7 was the playable character due to it focusing on him and the fact that Shepard was N7. It was also about the fact that first shown concepts of PC had N7 signs on them. Yup, I think a number of things got changed and overhauled but that can be the way when it comes to stories: you have a bunch of ideas, you put them together and then sometimes you consider that they might work better if put together in a different way.
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Post by Ahriman on Sept 8, 2016 15:06:14 GMT
He also seems to be a bit of a renegade if his treatment of the guy getting dropped off a ledge is any indication. That's kind of neat. I'm really curious about his personality. I wonder if he was an absent father due to being N7 in the military but I also hope that they might leave some details for the player to fill out through dialogue options. Yeah, mother died early, father was cold and on duty most of the time. Typical premise for daddy issues.
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Post by shechinah on Sept 8, 2016 15:07:56 GMT
Personally, I'm not oppose to Ryder's father dying provided it is not a cheap early in the game and that the death does not seem to be there just to usher the character of the game. I know that is why deaths are there sometimes: I can accept illusions including of choice but I don't want an illusion that I can see through without trying if that makes any sense.
I'd prefer a death that is done well such as by making the player care about the characters and the relationship between them be the relationship negative or positive. Give the player time to decide how they feel about a character and let them invest in the relationship like by allowing them influence said relationship to an extent.
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Post by PCthug on Sept 8, 2016 15:15:15 GMT
The family aspect was one of my favorite things about DA2, so I'm excited about this.
There are a few logistical things I'm curious about. Will we have to create both Ryder and their sibling or will the sibling's looks automatically change in accordance with Ryder's? Will we still be able to choose Ryder's first name? (Pleeeeaassseee, if for no other reason than to easily distinguish between saves)
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Post by Thrombin on Sept 8, 2016 15:15:43 GMT
<<<<<<<<<<(0)>>>>>>>>>> I've noticed some posts (up thread) about the possibility of playing multiple characters in the same play through. A novel idea. But, it comes with two major weaknesses, from a RPG perspective. 1. Leveling and skills By the end of 10 hours of play, each of your swapped characters will not achieve their full leveling opportunities. You just got yourself two weak characters that will get killed in no time. Game progression, story arc, character leveling and combat balancing go hand in hand. Think of what your level/skills/attributes stats are if one is a Soldier Class and the other is a Biotic Class. 2. Character development and impact on the game world. A RPG allows you to choose a character and a class. In turn, you have an opportunity to mold the character that though game progression gives you choices that either impacts your squad members or the world (NPCs, missions... etc). Switching back and forth can negatively impact your available choices and/or influence. For example: You have insufficient attributes skills for a successful diplomatic mission objective. Any other thoughts on this or counter argument? I don’t think they are going to have us swapping characters as I think it would detract a bit from the bond you need to form with your main. However, if they did do it there would be ways. As others have said, gaining XP off screen is certainly a valid option (it’s how it works for squad mates in most bioware games already). Another option would be not to connect the two characters in the same part of the game. Different parts of the narrative might feature us playing as different characters with or without their own set of companions and the challenges that they faced could then be geared to their level without having to be related to the level of the other character’s team. Theoretically you could bring the two together at a later date having spent equal time with them across the different narratives so that they end up of equivalent level by the time the story lines converged.
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Post by dalinne on Sept 8, 2016 15:17:38 GMT
Really nice. Bro Ryder and Sis Ryder exist at the same time. And their father is a goddamn hero. Those are some big shoes for them to fill. Maybe his father is a hero who becomes a villain (or simply an antagonist, not necessarily evil)
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Post by shechinah on Sept 8, 2016 15:19:10 GMT
He also seems to be a bit of a renegade if his treatment of the guy getting dropped off a ledge is any indication. That's kind of neat. I'm really curious about his personality. I wonder if he was an absent father due to being N7 in the military but I also hope that they might leave some details for the player to fill out through dialogue options. Yeah, mother died early, father was cold and on duty most of the time. Typical premise for daddy issues. If that is what they would be going with then that's where it would be nice to have options: like, say, there's options to indicate that he and Ryder still had a close relationship because of things like how they would frequently talk over the future phone so Ryder never felt like he was absent from their life. Basically, he might have been physically absent but he was never emotionally absent.
Think about what we can do now with technology: Ryder's father could have done things like watch movies with them when he was off-duty and had access to an internet connection. He could even have read for them, helped them with their homework and so on. If they bring a computer with them, he could even be present at their birthdays, graduations and such.
Then there could be options where Ryder was sad but understood and options where Ryder was bitter and thought he didn't care that much.
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Post by dalinne on Sept 8, 2016 15:19:13 GMT
So does this means our characters do not wake up on the way to Andromeda, but has grown up there? I hope we can customize our sibling. I want to make my in game brother look like my real brother looked. The krogan squadmate will have known our character's father too. I hope that means the krogan is NOT a romance., but more a father-figure. Oh my. It would be so great to have a Krogan-father figure
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Post by shechinah on Sept 8, 2016 15:22:28 GMT
Really nice. Bro Ryder and Sis Ryder exist at the same time. And their father is a goddamn hero. Those are some big shoes for them to fill. Maybe his father is a hero who becomes a villain (or simply an antagonist, not necessarily evil) I'm hoping for that but only for the latter. I'll repost what I've said in the CSI thread:
I sincerely hope the N7 is not like Kai Leng. I'd rather they be sympathic in their motivation: they might steal technology from the Andromeda races but they'll do it because they believe it is necessary for the survival of the Milky races. Basically, a character that does what they do because of percieved necessity rather than spite or desiring superiority for them or their race.
We've had pro-human antagonists; now I'd like something else. I feel an antagonist that is motivated by necessity could help show the desperation and danger there sometimes lie in the colonisation of strange new land especially when returning to old land is not an option. We can have a sympathic antagonist and we can have a villanous antagonist in the same story; the sympathic antagonist can exemplify desperation and the villanous antagonist can exemplify danger. If we go by the supposed leak then there is a seemingly villanous faction of aliens and a non-villanous faction of aliens so this would not go right over into Unfortunate Implications.
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Post by Vortex13 on Sept 8, 2016 15:24:06 GMT
Maybe his father is a hero who becomes a villain (or simply an antagonist, not necessarily evil) I'm hoping for that but only for the latter. I'll repost what I've said in the CSI thread:
I sincerely hope the N7 is not like Kai Leng. I'd rather they be sympathic in their motivation: they might steal technology from the Andromeda races but they'll do it because they believe it is necessary for the survival of the Milky races. Basically, a character that does what they do because of percieved necessity rather than spite or desiring superiority for them or their race.
We've had pro-human antagonists; now I'd like something else. I feel an antagonist that is motivated by necessity could help show the desperation and danger there sometimes lie in the colonisation of strange new land especially when returning to old land is not an option. We can have a sympathic antagonist and we can have a villanous antagonist in the same story; the sympathic antagonist can exemplify desperation and the villanous antagonist can exemplify danger. If we go by the supposed leak then there is a seemingly villanous faction of aliens and a non-villanous faction of aliens so this would not go right over into Unfortunate Implications.
I swear, if Cerberus turns up in Andromeda….
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